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For Len, and others that might know something like this: I've heard rumours that someone (or some group) put the brakes on an amnesty for MGs that vets had but not reg'ed during the Ashcroft AG era (or perhaps some other "friendly" AG). Any truth to this?
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Quoted: For Len, and others that might know something like this: I've heard rumours that someone (or some group) put the brakes on an amnesty for MGs that vets had but not reg'ed during the Ashcroft AG era (or perhaps some other "friendly" AG). Any truth to this? View Quote That would have to have been a Congressional deal. The last amnesty was permitted when the 68 GCA went into effect. Attorney Generals having nothing to do w/ it. |
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Len, you and I should compare notes. I have a sneaking suspicion that the BATFE is trying to take away my Form 1 hand grenade. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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..... Len Savage....... wait... are you?.... oh, this is gonna be really good. You rang? It's long past time to set off with a shovel and a map of buried things..... Len, you and I should compare notes. I have a sneaking suspicion that the BATFE is trying to take away my Form 1 hand grenade. |
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Len, you and I should compare notes. I have a sneaking suspicion that the BATFE is trying to take away my Form 1 hand grenade. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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..... Len Savage....... wait... are you?.... oh, this is gonna be really good. You rang? It's long past time to set off with a shovel and a map of buried things..... Len, you and I should compare notes. I have a sneaking suspicion that the BATFE is trying to take away my Form 1 hand grenade. Luckily you have my number |
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But, how good are his wall building skillz? Thanks Nolo! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Nolo 2016 Our only hope Thanks Nolo! When all your nations citizens are armed with select fire weapons of their own chosing, walls really arent necessary. Get em Nolo! |
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That would have to have been a Congressional deal. The last amnesty was permitted when the 68 GCA went into effect. Attorney Generals having nothing to do w/ it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: For Len, and others that might know something like this: I've heard rumours that someone (or some group) put the brakes on an amnesty for MGs that vets had but not reg'ed during the Ashcroft AG era (or perhaps some other "friendly" AG). Any truth to this? That would have to have been a Congressional deal. The last amnesty was permitted when the 68 GCA went into effect. Attorney Generals having nothing to do w/ it. That isn't true. The law allows for 90 day amnesties at the will of the AG. |
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When all your nations citizens are armed with select fire weapons of their own chosing, walls really arent necessary. Get em Nolo! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Nolo 2016 Our only hope Thanks Nolo! When all your nations citizens are armed with select fire weapons of their own chosing, walls really arent necessary. Get em Nolo! Well said. I look forward to the day when I can carry a Glock 18. |
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Well said. I look forward to the day when I can carry a Glock 18. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Nolo 2016 Our only hope Thanks Nolo! When all your nations citizens are armed with select fire weapons of their own chosing, walls really arent necessary. Get em Nolo! Well said. I look forward to the day when I can carry a Glock 18. I really don't think I ever would, but I want the option goddammit. |
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We've made arrangements for that possibility. If they were smart, they'd make sure no accidents happened to him at all. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Assuming they don't just decide to murder him because they can. We've made arrangements for that possibility. If they were smart, they'd make sure no accidents happened to him at all. |
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Len, you and I should compare notes. I have a sneaking suspicion that the BATFE is trying to take away my Form 1 hand grenade. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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..... Len Savage....... wait... are you?.... oh, this is gonna be really good. You rang? It's long past time to set off with a shovel and a map of buried things..... Len, you and I should compare notes. I have a sneaking suspicion that the BATFE is trying to take away my Form 1 hand grenade. Not cool. Can you share the angle they are using? |
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That isn't true. The law allows for 90 day amnesties at the will of the AG. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Quoted: For Len, and others that might know something like this: I've heard rumours that someone (or some group) put the brakes on an amnesty for MGs that vets had but not reg'ed during the Ashcroft AG era (or perhaps some other "friendly" AG). Any truth to this? That would have to have been a Congressional deal. The last amnesty was permitted when the 68 GCA went into effect. Attorney Generals having nothing to do w/ it. That isn't true. The law allows for 90 day amnesties at the will of the AG. Good to know. So Nixon, Ford, Reagan, and both Bushes have screwed us then? |
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That would have to have been a Congressional deal. The last amnesty was permitted when the 68 GCA went into effect. Attorney Generals having nothing to do w/ it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: For Len, and others that might know something like this: I've heard rumours that someone (or some group) put the brakes on an amnesty for MGs that vets had but not reg'ed during the Ashcroft AG era (or perhaps some other "friendly" AG). Any truth to this? That would have to have been a Congressional deal. The last amnesty was permitted when the 68 GCA went into effect. Attorney Generals having nothing to do w/ it. The ATF can have an amnesty at any time . Notice they have never had another 1 in almost 50 years |
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The ATF can have an amnesty at any time . Notice they have never had another 1 in almost 50 years View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Quoted: For Len, and others that might know something like this: I've heard rumours that someone (or some group) put the brakes on an amnesty for MGs that vets had but not reg'ed during the Ashcroft AG era (or perhaps some other "friendly" AG). Any truth to this? That would have to have been a Congressional deal. The last amnesty was permitted when the 68 GCA went into effect. Attorney Generals having nothing to do w/ it. The ATF can have an amnesty at any time . Notice they have never had another 1 in almost 50 years |
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Not cool. Can you share the angle they are using? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Nothing formal yet, but I can sense a disturbance in the force. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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..... Len Savage....... wait... are you?.... oh, this is gonna be really good. You rang? It's long past time to set off with a shovel and a map of buried things..... Len, you and I should compare notes. I have a sneaking suspicion that the BATFE is trying to take away my Form 1 hand grenade. Not cool. Can you share the angle they are using? Nothing formal yet, but I can sense a disturbance in the force. Interesting. Tagged |
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ATTN: Disclosure Division, Room 4E.301Via Electronic Mail and Facsimile 99 New York Avenue, NE Washington, DC 20226 Email: [email protected] Fax: (202) 648-9619 RE: Freedom of Information Act Request To whom this may concern: Pursuant to the Freedom of Information Act (5 U.S.C. § 552), the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco Firearms and Explosives is requested to the following within twenty (20) business days. I represent Len Savage in this request. It is unknown to this Requester where electronic mail, correspondence, and other documents and/or petitions requested are stored. Please provide the following information: 1)Please provide any and all documents, emails, correspondence, petitions for rulemaking and communications from and/or to the National Firearms Act Trade & Collectors Association (“NFATCA”) from 2000 to present; 2)Please provide any and all documents, emails, correspondence, petitions for rulemaking and communications from and/or to John Brown, President of NFATCA, from 2000 to present; 3)Please provide any and all documents, emails, correspondence, petitions for rulemaking and communications from and/or to Curt Wolf, Vice President of NFATCA, from 2000 to present; 4)Please provide any and all documents, emails, correspondence, petitions for rulemaking and communications from and/or to Jeff Folloder, Executive Director of NFATCA, from 2000 to present; 5)Please provide any and all documents, emails, correspondence, petitions for rulemaking and communications from and/or to Robert Landies, Board Member of NFATCA, from 2000 to present; 6)Please provide any and all documents, emails, correspondence, petitions for rulemaking and communications from and/or to Wayne Weber, Board Member of NFATCA, from 2000 to present; 7)Please provide any and all documents, emails, correspondence, petitions for rulemaking and communications from and/or to Robert Segel, Board Member of NFATCA, from 2000 to present; and 8)Please provide any and all documents, emails, correspondence, petitions for rulemaking and communications from and/or to Dan Shea, prior Board Member of NFATCA, from 2000 to present. The Category of Requester is “All Other Requesters” and because this is a matter of great public interest; I request that the fee is waived. If the fee is not waived, my client will pay up to $100 for this request. Should the fee for this request exceed $100, please let me know in advance. I look forward to receiving the requested documents and a full fee waiver within twenty business days. Warm regards, "Warm regards". Apparently closing with "Suck my taint, fascists" is frowned upon. |
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Based on their tax records, NFATCA has been dying a slow and steady death since 2001.
Hopefully this will put that festering association of scoundrels and ATF puppets out of its misery. |
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itmwould kill any investigations they have in process is their official reasoning. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Quoted: For Len, and others that might know something like this: I've heard rumours that someone (or some group) put the brakes on an amnesty for MGs that vets had but not reg'ed during the Ashcroft AG era (or perhaps some other "friendly" AG). Any truth to this? The ATF can have an amnesty at any time . Notice they have never had another 1 in almost 50 years My understanding was that the rumored amnesty was for pre-68 bring backs that were not reg'ed (or reg'ed, but paperwork lost, etc). This certainly would've limited the "pool" of qualified MGs (no sears for instance). Would some idiot try a new build with forged markings, perhaps, but they have to be real careful with the s/n if someone wanted to game that way. Another thing I've heard in the past was that certain people (perhaps from the list in Nolo's FOIA) hosting MG shoots for ATF personnel. This certainly jives with the other crony thing mentioned so far, of allowing (under "prosecutorial discretion") certain people to continue to possess MGs that they probably shouldn't legally possess. |
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In for response in 6 years. Will NOT take 6 years..... |
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In for response in 6 years. Will NOT take 6 years..... No, it will not. 3-4 years, max. We live in interesting times when a government (or people of influence) can bypass regulations and laws with impunity. Equality under the law vs. personal privilege. |
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No, it will not. 3-4 years, max. We live in interesting times when a government (or people of influence) can bypass regulations and laws with impunity. Equality under the law vs. personal privilege. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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In for response in 6 years. Will NOT take 6 years..... No, it will not. 3-4 years, max. We live in interesting times when a government (or people of influence) can bypass regulations and laws with impunity. Equality under the law vs. personal privilege. Have some faith. Won't even take that long |
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http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2016/05/boom.html Looks like we made sipseystreet! View Quote I try to keep tab on things, but I don't know what that means. Can someone explain? |
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I try to keep tab on things, but I don't know what that means. Can someone explain? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2016/05/boom.html Looks like we made sipseystreet! I try to keep tab on things, but I don't know what that means. Can someone explain? Mike (founder of SSI) is one of the original guys that broke F&F, among others. David Codrea is currently asking for funds for Mike's headstone - he'll be dead soon - if you're so motivated |
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Mike (founder of SSI) is one of the original guys that broke F&F, among others. David Codrea is currently asking for funds for Mike's headstone - he'll be dead soon - if you're so motivated View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2016/05/boom.html Looks like we made sipseystreet! I try to keep tab on things, but I don't know what that means. Can someone explain? Mike (founder of SSI) is one of the original guys that broke F&F, among others. David Codrea is currently asking for funds for Mike's headstone - he'll be dead soon - if you're so motivated That will be a sad day. |
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http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2016/05/boom.html Looks like we made sipseystreet! I try to keep tab on things, but I don't know what that means. Can someone explain? Several shenanigans may be revealed. Did ATF form an advisory committee for rule change in violation of law? Did the cartel influence rule changes for their financial advantage? Did the ATF use confidential informants to plant suggestions for rule changes? Did the cartel give false info to achieve the desired results? Have the cartel and ATF commited other illegal acts? Is the NFA handbook law if it was written by the cartel illegally? Failure to gather and provide these records is a violation of law. (ETA... The answer to all of these looks like yes. Their response, or lack of one, will prove it.) |
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Several shenanigans may be revealed. Did ATF form an advisory committee for rule change in violation of law? Did the cartel influence rule changes for their financial advantage? Did the ATF use confidential informants to plant suggestions for rule changes? Did the cartel give false info to achieve the desired results? Have the cartel and ATF commited other illegal acts? Is the NFA handbook law if it was written by the cartel illegally? Failure to gather and provide these records is a violation of law. (ETA... The answer to all of these looks like yes. Their response, or lack of one, will prove it.) View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2016/05/boom.html Looks like we made sipseystreet! I try to keep tab on things, but I don't know what that means. Can someone explain? Several shenanigans may be revealed. Did ATF form an advisory committee for rule change in violation of law? Did the cartel influence rule changes for their financial advantage? Did the ATF use confidential informants to plant suggestions for rule changes? Did the cartel give false info to achieve the desired results? Have the cartel and ATF commited other illegal acts? Is the NFA handbook law if it was written by the cartel illegally? Failure to gather and provide these records is a violation of law. (ETA... The answer to all of these looks like yes. Their response, or lack of one, will prove it.) If a trade organization represents business members and gets a government agency to implement rules that are anticompetitive, is that legal? It seems like the sort of behavior that would fall into antitrust law. |
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If a trade organization represents business members and gets a government agency to implement rules that are anticompetitive, is that legal? It seems like the sort of behavior that would fall into antitrust law. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2016/05/boom.html Looks like we made sipseystreet! I try to keep tab on things, but I don't know what that means. Can someone explain? Several shenanigans may be revealed. Did ATF form an advisory committee for rule change in violation of law? Did the cartel influence rule changes for their financial advantage? Did the ATF use confidential informants to plant suggestions for rule changes? Did the cartel give false info to achieve the desired results? Have the cartel and ATF commited other illegal acts? Is the NFA handbook law if it was written by the cartel illegally? Failure to gather and provide these records is a violation of law. (ETA... The answer to all of these looks like yes. Their response, or lack of one, will prove it.) If a trade organization represents business members and gets a government agency to implement rules that are anticompetitive, is that legal? It seems like the sort of behavior that would fall into antitrust law. |
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If a trade organization represents business members and gets a government agency to implement rules that are anticompetitive, is that legal? It seems like the sort of behavior that would fall into antitrust law. View Quote 5 U.S.C. Appendix 2 (1972) summary The Federal Advisory Committee Act (FACA) governs the operation of federal advisory committees and emphasizes public involvement through open meetings and reporting. Except in certain statutorily defined circumstances, all FACA committee meetings must be open to the public. Meetings must be announced in the Federal Register. Reports, transcripts, working papers, and other materials made available to or prepared for or by the committees must be made available to the public. FACA calls upon federal agencies to carefully consider the necessity of a new committee before establishing it. Under FACA a discretionary committee is terminated after two years unless the agency renews the committee's charter prior to the two year expiration date. Further, FACA requires agencies to terminate a committee once it has completed its function |
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In for response in 6 years. Will NOT take 6 years..... No, it will not. 3-4 years, max. We live in interesting times when a government (or people of influence) can bypass regulations and laws with impunity. Equality under the law vs. personal privilege. Have some faith. Won't even take that long I have little faith in our government and their dedication to lawful behavior. I have MUCH more faith in you pounding them until they comply with the laws and regulations they are governed by than by their compliance without delay & obfuscation. I'd like to see actual consequences for people in government who flout the law and ignore regulations. |
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Apparently closing with "Suck my taint, fascists" is frowned upon. says you. Seems might want to add please like this ...... Please "Suck my taint, fascists" see with one simple word it becomes much more appealing to them |
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