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Link Posted: 4/14/2016 3:55:03 PM EDT
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Truly, pizza and ice cream is something everyone can get behind.
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I would be happy if I could eat pizza and ice cream every day.  Just throwing that out there because I'm hungry at the moment.



Hey...there's an idea!




Truly, pizza and ice cream is something everyone can get behind.

meh
Link Posted: 4/14/2016 3:55:56 PM EDT
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This thread is easy to masturbate to.

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And now you have me thinking about Krispy Kreme.  I saw their doughnut of the month is Snickerdoodle.
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I just wanted to say that regardless of who is right and who is wrong.  It is never ok to quote Conscious Men.  Cause that shit sounds gay.


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John Gray is the leading relationship expert in the world. His relationship and health books have sold over 50 million copies in 50 different languages. His groundbreaking book, Men Are from Mars, Women Are from Venus, is the #1 best-selling relationship book of all time. John helps men and women better understand and respect their differences in both personal and professional relationships. He lives in Northern California with his wife of 30 years, Bonnie. They have three grown daughters and four grandchildren. Arjuna Ardagh is the founder of Awakening Coaching, a writer and public speaker. He is the author of eight books, including the 2005 #1 national bestseller The Translucent Revolution, and Better than Sex, the complete introduction to Awakening Coaching. He has been a speaker at conferences all over the world, including at Google and the United Nations. He lives with his wife, Chameli, in California. They have two grown sons, as well as the world’s most enlightened cat.
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Link Posted: 4/14/2016 4:02:26 PM EDT
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You can't tell me that a single woman on vacation or out of town for work, who knows dam well she's going to have sex with a guy she's never going to see again is some how hurting herself because she wants to enjoy herself with a guy she's attracted to. Just because there are plenty of women who are actually miserable inside that are pretending to be living the "I just want to have fun" lifestyle, because they can't land a man, doesn't mean they're all like this. You can enjoy sex with anyone you want, and then settle down if you meet one you want to keep seeing.
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I would be happy if I could eat pizza and ice cream every day.  Just throwing that out there because I'm hungry at the moment.



Hey...there's an idea!




Truly, pizza and ice cream is something everyone can get behind.

meh


There's one in every bunch.  
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Common? Yes. Good? No.
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Getting laid early and often is no more a diagnosis of a sexual addiction, than getting drunk early and often is a proper diagnosis of alcoholism.


Proper diagnosis of alcoholism? No. But a huge red flag? Yes.

You don't have to have an alcohol or sexual addiction to be really harming yourself. Ostentatiously celebrating it is a sign that maybe one is trying to convince oneself that it's ok, and normal, when it's not.




Are you saying that it's not normal for a guy to go out once in awhile to get drunk and laid?  And be happy about it.


Common? Yes. Good? No.



Divorce is very common....   and in the eyes of most women a good thing.

Alimony is very common in the 21st century USA...  and most women think it's a good thing.

I was grew up in a house without running water, or heat...  I can remember opening my eyes and seeing my own breath first thing in the morning...

I am NEVER going back to that....   If the courts were fair to men in this day and age, I would love to have a relationship with a woman.

Bu in a relationship, especially a marriage, the woman holds all the cards.  She wins 100% of the time.

I just can't risk it.
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I would be happy if I could eat pizza and ice cream every day.  Just throwing that out there because I'm hungry at the moment.



Hey...there's an idea!




Truly, pizza and ice cream is something everyone can get behind.

meh


There's one in every bunch.  

I'd on board with burritos and cookies, or steak and pie
Link Posted: 4/14/2016 4:12:46 PM EDT
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You can't tell me that a single woman on vacation or out of town for work, who knows dam well she's going to have sex with a guy she's never going to see again is some how hurting herself because she wants to enjoy herself with a guy she's attracted to. Just because there are plenty of women who are actually miserable inside that are pretending to be living the "I just want to have fun" lifestyle, because they can't land a man, doesn't mean they're all like this. You can enjoy sex with anyone you want, and then settle down if you meet one you want to keep seeing.
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You can.  I think the sort of thing being discussed here is the idea of going through people like tissues for an extended period of time is more likely to have negative effects than positive ones.
Link Posted: 4/14/2016 4:13:34 PM EDT
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We're programmed to kill too. And in some contexts, it's great. Others, not so much. Control is a pretty nifty thing.
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Because that's psycho-babble bullshit.

We are programed to be promiscuous, it's a natural act.

It's a natural thing to be promiscuous, we want to spread our genetics as far as possible, and intermingle them with other desirable traits as often as possible, it's programed into our DNA.

Promiscuity is only destructive because of the cultural expectations of our society, not in and of itself.

Drug and alcohol addiction is self destructive and actually destroys the individuals health, and eventually causes death. Promiscuity does not, excepting disease, which is a separate issue.

In my view, sexual addiction does not exist; it is made up bull shit.  Some people have stronger sexual drives and poor impulse control, others don't give a fuck what society thinks.

I say that as someone who had a decent run as a moderately successful player until I was 40, then happily married and monogamous for the last 15 years.


We're programmed to kill too. And in some contexts, it's great. Others, not so much. Control is a pretty nifty thing.



So you are saying that sex outside of a christian/muslim marriage is exactly the same thing are criminal homicide?
Link Posted: 4/14/2016 4:20:28 PM EDT
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Divorce is very common....   and in the eyes of most women a good thing.

Alimony is very common in the 21st century USA...  and most women think it's a good thing.

I was grew up in a house without running water, or heat...  I can remember opening my eyes and seeing my own breath first thing in the morning...

I am NEVER going back to that....   If the courts were fair to men in this day and age, I would love to have a relationship with a woman.

Bu in a relationship, especially a marriage, the woman holds all the cards.  She wins 100% of the time.

I just can't risk it.
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I don't think most women actually view Divorce as a good thing.  Remember, 60% of first marriages actually don't end in divorce.
That said, I can appreciate that you have concerns about how family law is applied in most parts of the nation.
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So you are saying that sex outside of a christian/muslim marriage is exactly the same thing are criminal homicide?
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Because that's psycho-babble bullshit.

We are programed to be promiscuous, it's a natural act.

It's a natural thing to be promiscuous, we want to spread our genetics as far as possible, and intermingle them with other desirable traits as often as possible, it's programed into our DNA.

Promiscuity is only destructive because of the cultural expectations of our society, not in and of itself.

Drug and alcohol addiction is self destructive and actually destroys the individuals health, and eventually causes death. Promiscuity does not, excepting disease, which is a separate issue.

In my view, sexual addiction does not exist; it is made up bull shit.  Some people have stronger sexual drives and poor impulse control, others don't give a fuck what society thinks.

I say that as someone who had a decent run as a moderately successful player until I was 40, then happily married and monogamous for the last 15 years.


We're programmed to kill too. And in some contexts, it's great. Others, not so much. Control is a pretty nifty thing.



So you are saying that sex outside of a christian/muslim marriage is exactly the same thing are criminal homicide?


Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.

Seriously, you can't actually get that out of what I said, can you?
Link Posted: 4/14/2016 4:31:11 PM EDT
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You can.  I think the sort of thing being discussed here is the idea of going through people like tissues for an extended period of time is more likely to have negative effects than positive ones.
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You can't tell me that a single woman on vacation or out of town for work, who knows dam well she's going to have sex with a guy she's never going to see again is some how hurting herself because she wants to enjoy herself with a guy she's attracted to. Just because there are plenty of women who are actually miserable inside that are pretending to be living the "I just want to have fun" lifestyle, because they can't land a man, doesn't mean they're all like this. You can enjoy sex with anyone you want, and then settle down if you meet one you want to keep seeing.



You can.  I think the sort of thing being discussed here is the idea of going through people like tissues for an extended period of time is more likely to have negative effects than positive ones.


Reminds me of a gal I knew in college.  Cute gal who could really turn heads when she turned on the "slink".  One day she remarked in front of a group of people, "men are like kleenex.  Use them, then throw them away."  [include hand gesture for dramatic flair]

Several months later I bumped into her and started chatting by ourselves.  I was surprised when she lamented to me that she was having trouble finding men that appreciated her for more than her body.

I agree with OATT, that over time the attitude has negative effects.
Link Posted: 4/14/2016 4:46:17 PM EDT
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I would have trouble getting laid in a whorehouse. I have zero game so I could never have a problem with being sexually addicted. Therefore I have to live vicariously through the (mostly) lies told by others. Heck, some days I am even surprised my own wife sleeps with me.

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Link Posted: 4/14/2016 4:51:24 PM EDT
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Generally I don't particular like the "look at me I used some chick thread"  especially when they don't know they are being posted about.  Like the one with the dude who had the girl that let him lick her asshole.  At some point, you should ask yourself- why I am posting this intimate stuff, with her picture, her location, for all to see?   That doesn't seem right to me.   In fact, I think it's pretty messed up and wrong.  Invasion of privacy or common ethics.  I'm sure someone will come along to point out how I'm wrong with some justification for it being OK to post up a random partner's intimate details without their consent, although I'm not sure I could think of a scenario where that's ok?

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Always seems to be the same people pissing on each other.  It's like you know what's going to be posted, and by whom before you even click.
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Is that the way that works?  That just sounds ass-backwards to me.
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I just wanted to say that regardless of who is right and who is wrong.  It is never ok to quote Conscious Men.  Cause that shit sounds gay.


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John Gray is the leading relationship expert in the world. His relationship and health books have sold over 50 million copies in 50 different languages. His groundbreaking book, Men Are from Mars, Women Are from Venus, is the #1 best-selling relationship book of all time. John helps men and women better understand and respect their differences in both personal and professional relationships. He lives in Northern California with his wife of 30 years, Bonnie. They have three grown daughters and four grandchildren. Arjuna Ardagh is the founder of Awakening Coaching, a writer and public speaker. He is the author of eight books, including the 2005 #1 national bestseller The Translucent Revolution, and Better than Sex, the complete introduction to Awakening Coaching. He has been a speaker at conferences all over the world, including at Google and the United Nations. He lives with his wife, Chameli, in California. They have two grown sons, as well as the world’s most enlightened cat.

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Man, if you had just seen my quote a little earlier, you could have saved that whole shit show.  Also, what's up with the enlightened cat thing?
Link Posted: 4/14/2016 4:59:11 PM EDT
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I don't think most women actually view Divorce as a good thing.  Remember, 60% of first marriages actually don't end in divorce.
That said, I can appreciate that you have concerns about how family law is applied in most parts of the nation.
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Divorce is very common....   and in the eyes of most women a good thing.

Alimony is very common in the 21st century USA...  and most women think it's a good thing.

I was grew up in a house without running water, or heat...  I can remember opening my eyes and seeing my own breath first thing in the morning...

I am NEVER going back to that....   If the courts were fair to men in this day and age, I would love to have a relationship with a woman.

Bu in a relationship, especially a marriage, the woman holds all the cards.  She wins 100% of the time.

I just can't risk it.


I don't think most women actually view Divorce as a good thing.  Remember, 60% of first marriages actually don't end in divorce.
That said, I can appreciate that you have concerns about how family law is applied in most parts of the nation.


Women want a committed relationship.

Women want to be married.

Wonder which sex files for divorce in the majority of cases?

Strange, isn't it?
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Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.

Seriously, you can't actually get that out of what I said, can you?
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Because that's psycho-babble bullshit.

We are programed to be promiscuous, it's a natural act.

It's a natural thing to be promiscuous, we want to spread our genetics as far as possible, and intermingle them with other desirable traits as often as possible, it's programed into our DNA.

Promiscuity is only destructive because of the cultural expectations of our society, not in and of itself.

Drug and alcohol addiction is self destructive and actually destroys the individuals health, and eventually causes death. Promiscuity does not, excepting disease, which is a separate issue.

In my view, sexual addiction does not exist; it is made up bull shit.  Some people have stronger sexual drives and poor impulse control, others don't give a fuck what society thinks.

I say that as someone who had a decent run as a moderately successful player until I was 40, then happily married and monogamous for the last 15 years.


We're programmed to kill too. And in some contexts, it's great. Others, not so much. Control is a pretty nifty thing.



So you are saying that sex outside of a christian/muslim marriage is exactly the same thing are criminal homicide?


Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.

Seriously, you can't actually get that out of what I said, can you?


My guess is that he was using your reading glasses.
Link Posted: 4/14/2016 5:03:22 PM EDT
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Women had initiated the divorce in 68.9% of all cases.


https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/homo-consumericus/201311/do-men-or-women-file-divorce-more-often


Marriage is 70% a scam.  Period...

Good luck in finding happiness by going that rt.
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Women want a committed relationship.

Women want to be married.

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I do want a committed relationship. I don't like sharing steak and I don't like sharing my man.

I do not want to be married.

I do not want shared finances or to legally entangle myself with anyone. It's taken damn near a year to extricate myself from the ex and I will never, ever do this again.


I learned some important lessons the last round. Just as men can be screwed over by women, so can women be screwed over by men.

One of my closest friends chose poorly the first round. After she finally dumped his ass, he couch hopped to avoid any kind of support for his own child. He disappeared. She worked two jobs, put herself through college, got a job, bought her own home, and did it all with no help from anyone other than her sister helping with babysitting as needed. He damn near wrecked her, but she pulled herself up and pushed forward. And that's why I like her so much.

I completely understand people who don't want to get married. Some get lucky, some find an excellent partner who stays as such. And I'm happy for them and glad for it. But me? I consider myself a smarter person, and from now on, if I can't afford it on my own, it's not going to happen.
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Reminds me of a gal I knew in college.  Cute gal who could really turn heads when she turned on the "slink".  One day she remarked in front of a group of people, "men are like kleenex.  Use them, then throw them away."  [include hand gesture for dramatic flair]

Several months later I bumped into her and started chatting by ourselves.  I was surprised when she lamented to me that she was having trouble finding men that appreciated her for more than her body.

I agree with OATT, that over time the attitude has negative effects.
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You can't tell me that a single woman on vacation or out of town for work, who knows dam well she's going to have sex with a guy she's never going to see again is some how hurting herself because she wants to enjoy herself with a guy she's attracted to. Just because there are plenty of women who are actually miserable inside that are pretending to be living the "I just want to have fun" lifestyle, because they can't land a man, doesn't mean they're all like this. You can enjoy sex with anyone you want, and then settle down if you meet one you want to keep seeing.



You can.  I think the sort of thing being discussed here is the idea of going through people like tissues for an extended period of time is more likely to have negative effects than positive ones.


Reminds me of a gal I knew in college.  Cute gal who could really turn heads when she turned on the "slink".  One day she remarked in front of a group of people, "men are like kleenex.  Use them, then throw them away."  [include hand gesture for dramatic flair]

Several months later I bumped into her and started chatting by ourselves.  I was surprised when she lamented to me that she was having trouble finding men that appreciated her for more than her body.

I agree with OATT, that over time the attitude has negative effects.


I am going to go have a good cry about it with Hugh Hefner. Poor dude wasted his entire life on hot sex.
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Women want a committed relationship.

Women want to be married.

Wonder which sex files for divorce in the majority of cases?

Strange, isn't it?
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Divorce is very common....   and in the eyes of most women a good thing.

Alimony is very common in the 21st century USA...  and most women think it's a good thing.

I was grew up in a house without running water, or heat...  I can remember opening my eyes and seeing my own breath first thing in the morning...

I am NEVER going back to that....   If the courts were fair to men in this day and age, I would love to have a relationship with a woman.

Bu in a relationship, especially a marriage, the woman holds all the cards.  She wins 100% of the time.

I just can't risk it.


I don't think most women actually view Divorce as a good thing.  Remember, 60% of first marriages actually don't end in divorce.
That said, I can appreciate that you have concerns about how family law is applied in most parts of the nation.


Women want a committed relationship.

Women want to be married.

Wonder which sex files for divorce in the majority of cases?

Strange, isn't it?


Just because we have the strength to put the dog down doesn't mean we're the ones who neglected it in the first place. We're just the ones pulling the trigger.
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Women had initiated the divorce in 68.9% of all cases.


https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/homo-consumericus/201311/do-men-or-women-file-divorce-more-often


Marriage is 70% a scam.  Period...

Good luck in finding happiness by going that rt.
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One great truth: You can't really hate someone until you marry them.

Ask any divorce lawyer.
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My guess is that he was using your reading glasses.
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Because that's psycho-babble bullshit.

We are programed to be promiscuous, it's a natural act.

It's a natural thing to be promiscuous, we want to spread our genetics as far as possible, and intermingle them with other desirable traits as often as possible, it's programed into our DNA.

Promiscuity is only destructive because of the cultural expectations of our society, not in and of itself.

Drug and alcohol addiction is self destructive and actually destroys the individuals health, and eventually causes death. Promiscuity does not, excepting disease, which is a separate issue.

In my view, sexual addiction does not exist; it is made up bull shit.  Some people have stronger sexual drives and poor impulse control, others don't give a fuck what society thinks.

I say that as someone who had a decent run as a moderately successful player until I was 40, then happily married and monogamous for the last 15 years.


We're programmed to kill too. And in some contexts, it's great. Others, not so much. Control is a pretty nifty thing.



So you are saying that sex outside of a christian/muslim marriage is exactly the same thing are criminal homicide?


Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.

Seriously, you can't actually get that out of what I said, can you?


My guess is that he was using your reading glasses.


God you're a pest.
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Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.

Seriously, you can't actually get that out of what I said, can you?
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Because that's psycho-babble bullshit.

We are programed to be promiscuous, it's a natural act.

It's a natural thing to be promiscuous, we want to spread our genetics as far as possible, and intermingle them with other desirable traits as often as possible, it's programed into our DNA.

Promiscuity is only destructive because of the cultural expectations of our society, not in and of itself.

Drug and alcohol addiction is self destructive and actually destroys the individuals health, and eventually causes death. Promiscuity does not, excepting disease, which is a separate issue.

In my view, sexual addiction does not exist; it is made up bull shit.  Some people have stronger sexual drives and poor impulse control, others don't give a fuck what society thinks.

I say that as someone who had a decent run as a moderately successful player until I was 40, then happily married and monogamous for the last 15 years.


We're programmed to kill too. And in some contexts, it's great. Others, not so much. Control is a pretty nifty thing.



So you are saying that sex outside of a christian/muslim marriage is exactly the same thing are criminal homicide?


Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.

Seriously, you can't actually get that out of what I said, can you?



You keep bringing it up as a comparison.
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Just because we have the strength to put the dog down doesn't mean we're the ones who neglected it in the first place. We're just the ones pulling the trigger.
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Divorce is very common....   and in the eyes of most women a good thing.

Alimony is very common in the 21st century USA...  and most women think it's a good thing.

I was grew up in a house without running water, or heat...  I can remember opening my eyes and seeing my own breath first thing in the morning...

I am NEVER going back to that....   If the courts were fair to men in this day and age, I would love to have a relationship with a woman.

Bu in a relationship, especially a marriage, the woman holds all the cards.  She wins 100% of the time.

I just can't risk it.


I don't think most women actually view Divorce as a good thing.  Remember, 60% of first marriages actually don't end in divorce.
That said, I can appreciate that you have concerns about how family law is applied in most parts of the nation.


Women want a committed relationship.

Women want to be married.

Wonder which sex files for divorce in the majority of cases?

Strange, isn't it?


Just because we have the strength to put the dog down doesn't mean we're the ones who neglected it in the first place. We're just the ones pulling the trigger.



See.. That's exactly what I'm saying....   You are defending women you have never met and taken a position on marriages you were never in, just because they are women and you sympathize with them.

Further proves my point that women are right 100% of the time, and men are wrong 100% of the time.

The courts rule accordingly.   100% of the time.
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Reminds me of a funny story. Some time back, I had noticed from my own experience that it was usually women who started arguments in marriages. Men may sin, but they don't want to argue about it.

So I told this to a friend of mine and being the nice egalitarian fair-minded to all the sexes person he is, he greatly protested. That couldn't be possible, he said. Surely, I was wrong.

We were standing at the counter at Wally World waiting for a clerk to come buy so I told him I would make him a bet on the next guy to show up. My friend accepted and, within a couple of minutes, another guy wandered up to the counter.

"Say, fella," I said, "Can I ask you a question?"

"Sure," he said.

"I am trying to prove something to my friend," I said, "so I just want to make sure that we have never met before. Is that correct?"

"No, we have never met before," he said.

"Ok, then, here is the question. When was the last time you got into a fight with another man?"

He looked puzzled. "You mean, like a fierce argument where we almost came to blows?"

"Yeah, exactly," I said. "When was the last time that happened?"

He thought and scratched his head. "I don't know," he said, "high school maybe?"

"OK," I said. "And when was the last time you got into a fight with a woman?"

He looked stunned for a minute. "You know," he said, "it was when I got out of the goddamn car in the parking lot!"
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You started the personal comments and now you are unhappy how it turned out? What a shame.
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Sleep with 100+not quite partners and get back to us. I have been on both sides of that fence and neither is better than the other.  On one hand you start feeling like a man whore and crave intimacy and on the other you are eating the same steak every night, dreaming about a White Castle once in a while.
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Women had initiated the divorce in 68.9% of all cases.


https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/homo-consumericus/201311/do-men-or-women-file-divorce-more-often


Marriage is 70% a scam.  Period...

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Yes, I'm aware of that statistic.  In some states it's lower, but in others (like the one where I live) the percent of divorces initiated by women is much higher according to my family law attorney neighbor.  Yes, I recognize that when divorce happens, the application of family law is often stacked against men.

Still, I did go that route.  It hasn't been all rainbows and sunshine.  In fact, there have been a few strolls through a virtual valley of hell in the journey of married life.  It has also resulted in much of my greatest joy.
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To be fair, BES, I'm not convinced that the disparity has as much to do with strength as it does with incentives and bias.
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We're programmed to kill too. And in some contexts, it's great. Others, not so much. Control is a pretty nifty thing.



So you are saying that sex outside of a christian/muslim marriage is exactly the same thing are criminal homicide?






Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.





Seriously, you can't actually get that out of what I said, can you?








My guess is that he was using your reading glasses.






God you're a pest.


 
 
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I love my wife. She loves me. I am faithful to her and she is faithful to me.

You all can go full tilt  "Charlie Sheen" if you want to, but I wouldn't trade what I have for any of it.
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Women want a committed relationship.

Women want to be married.

Wonder which sex files for divorce in the majority of cases?

Strange, isn't it?
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Divorce is very common....   and in the eyes of most women a good thing.

Alimony is very common in the 21st century USA...  and most women think it's a good thing.

I was grew up in a house without running water, or heat...  I can remember opening my eyes and seeing my own breath first thing in the morning...

I am NEVER going back to that....   If the courts were fair to men in this day and age, I would love to have a relationship with a woman.

Bu in a relationship, especially a marriage, the woman holds all the cards.  She wins 100% of the time.

I just can't risk it.


I don't think most women actually view Divorce as a good thing.  Remember, 60% of first marriages actually don't end in divorce.
That said, I can appreciate that you have concerns about how family law is applied in most parts of the nation.


Women want a committed relationship.

Women want to be married.

Wonder which sex files for divorce in the majority of cases?

Strange, isn't it?


OR women want a lock on a mans assets.  When they no longer need those assets or can get them without the man any longer, then they take off.   It actually makes perfect sense when you ignore the bs disney fantasies and look at the facts. Fortunately theres steps that smart men can take.  Its not like this stuff has been going on for millenia or anything.  Kind of a one trick pony.
Link Posted: 4/14/2016 5:54:14 PM EDT
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OP, you just need a hot chick to coil a deuce on your chest and smash it with a tennis racket. You'll feel better.
Link Posted: 4/14/2016 6:01:09 PM EDT
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I would generally frown upon having many sexual partners, and I don't have any desire to be in a meaningful relationship.

The difference is that I don't see a difference between men and women doing it, and I'm not going to try and convince myself that I'm not doing something wrong that may have detrimental effects on my ability to be in a stable monogamous relationship later on.

Frankly. I just don't care about being in a stable monogamous relationship. Not for a long time. I might change. I might not.

I also don't encourage other guys to do what I do. I just don't degrade them either. The fact that I have sex with basically any female who will willingly have sex with me is something of a symptom of a greater problem, and it's just a problem that I have absolutely no desire to ever fix. Yeah. I wouldn't marry a girl who sleeps around... but I'm not looking to get married. And if I were a girl, I wouldn't marry me.

Arfcom GDism shit aside, I don't ridicule other people's lives, male or female. It's just not something I care about.


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You can.  I think the sort of thing being discussed here is the idea of going through people like tissues for an extended period of time is more likely to have negative effects than positive ones.
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You can't tell me that a single woman on vacation or out of town for work, who knows dam well she's going to have sex with a guy she's never going to see again is some how hurting herself because she wants to enjoy herself with a guy she's attracted to. Just because there are plenty of women who are actually miserable inside that are pretending to be living the "I just want to have fun" lifestyle, because they can't land a man, doesn't mean they're all like this. You can enjoy sex with anyone you want, and then settle down if you meet one you want to keep seeing.



You can.  I think the sort of thing being discussed here is the idea of going through people like tissues for an extended period of time is more likely to have negative effects than positive ones.

Exactly. People don't invest time or effort into the care and maintenance of what they consider to be disposable commodities. Gone are the days of painstaking maintenance and upkeep on most things. Why bother fixing appliances? Just get a new one. Why bother washing handkerchiefs or diapers? Buy Kleenex and Pampers.

When the disposable commodity is a human being, there will be no effort to maintain a relationship. If something isn't working, there won't be any attempt to reach a resolution. It will be out with the old and in with the new. That's the attitude that makes someone a terrible prospect for a long term relationship (whether within the bounds of a marriage or not).
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Exactly. People don't invest time or effort into the care and maintenance of what they consider to be disposable commodities. Gone are the days of painstaking maintenance and upkeep on most things. Why bother fixing appliances? Just get a new one. Why bother washing handkerchiefs or diapers? Buy Kleenex and Pampers.

When the disposable commodity is a human being, there will be no effort to maintain a relationship. If something isn't working, there won't be any attempt to reach a resolution. It will be out with the old and in with the new. That's the attitude that makes someone a terrible prospect for a long term relationship (whether within the bounds of a marriage or not).
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You can't tell me that a single woman on vacation or out of town for work, who knows dam well she's going to have sex with a guy she's never going to see again is some how hurting herself because she wants to enjoy herself with a guy she's attracted to. Just because there are plenty of women who are actually miserable inside that are pretending to be living the "I just want to have fun" lifestyle, because they can't land a man, doesn't mean they're all like this. You can enjoy sex with anyone you want, and then settle down if you meet one you want to keep seeing.



You can.  I think the sort of thing being discussed here is the idea of going through people like tissues for an extended period of time is more likely to have negative effects than positive ones.

Exactly. People don't invest time or effort into the care and maintenance of what they consider to be disposable commodities. Gone are the days of painstaking maintenance and upkeep on most things. Why bother fixing appliances? Just get a new one. Why bother washing handkerchiefs or diapers? Buy Kleenex and Pampers.

When the disposable commodity is a human being, there will be no effort to maintain a relationship. If something isn't working, there won't be any attempt to reach a resolution. It will be out with the old and in with the new. That's the attitude that makes someone a terrible prospect for a long term relationship (whether within the bounds of a marriage or not).


I promise, I'll follow strict PMCS with my cherry 2000.
Link Posted: 4/14/2016 6:37:55 PM EDT
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Wives cheat on their husbands.  Husbands get through the shitty divorce and start banging younger chicks.  They have nice bodies and look better without make up.

Then the feminists get mad because they're jelly.
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I haven't read all 6 pages but did we get Chase45 help yet?
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To be fair, BES, I'm not convinced that the disparity has as much to do with strength as it does with incentives and bias.
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To be fair, BES, I'm not convinced that the disparity has as much to do with strength as it does with incentives and bias.

I agree that there are incentives for the women, and that may be a large contributing factor in why women pull the trigger.

That being said, people who are happily married aren't typically just going to up and file for divorce. There are things that happened prior to the divorce that led to the marriage ending. Neglect, resentment, disrespect, dishonesty, even outright abuse are all conditions that lead to the divorce, and there are usually one or more present on both sides of the relationship. While it is absolutely true that it only takes one person to screw up a relationship, the reality is that in the vast majority of cases both parties screwed up along the way. Maybe not the same factors on each side of the relationship, or in the same proportions, but in the end both parties contributed to the demise of the marriage.
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I agree that there are incentives for the women, and that may be a large contributing factor in why women pull the trigger.

That being said, people who are happily married aren't typically just going to up and file for divorce. There are things that happened prior to the divorce that led to the marriage ending. Neglect, resentment, disrespect, dishonesty, even outright abuse are all conditions that lead to the divorce, and there are usually one or more present on both sides of the relationship. While it is absolutely true that it only takes one person to screw up a relationship, the reality is that in the vast majority of cases both parties screwed up along the way. Maybe not the same factors on each side of the relationship, or in the same proportions, but in the end both parties contributed to the demise of the marriage.
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Just because we have the strength to put the dog down doesn't mean we're the ones who neglected it in the first place. We're just the ones pulling the trigger.


To be fair, BES, I'm not convinced that the disparity has as much to do with strength as it does with incentives and bias.

I agree that there are incentives for the women, and that may be a large contributing factor in why women pull the trigger.

That being said, people who are happily married aren't typically just going to up and file for divorce. There are things that happened prior to the divorce that led to the marriage ending. Neglect, resentment, disrespect, dishonesty, even outright abuse are all conditions that lead to the divorce, and there are usually one or more present on both sides of the relationship. While it is absolutely true that it only takes one person to screw up a relationship, the reality is that in the vast majority of cases both parties screwed up along the way. Maybe not the same factors on each side of the relationship, or in the same proportions, but in the end both parties contributed to the demise of the marriage.



Nope.

Woman thinks it better on the other side and bangs some guy.
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Yeah, if only.

There are two basic laws of chemistry that lots of women never seem to quite understand.

1) That boner pops up without any conscious thought, or even a woman present. Men know what their priorities are for the day from the moment they wake up.

2) As soon as they are done with the deed, there is a chemical switch that tells them they are also done with the woman. It is as clear as turning off a 1,000 watt light.
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I'm with you, I'm one of the negative nancy killjoys on promiscuity threads. Don't look at me.


When a guy gets up in the morning, what gets up first?


His wife, to take care of anything that pops up?


Yeah, if only.

There are two basic laws of chemistry that lots of women never seem to quite understand.

1) That boner pops up without any conscious thought, or even a woman present. Men know what their priorities are for the day from the moment they wake up.

2) As soon as they are done with the deed, there is a chemical switch that tells them they are also done with the woman. It is as clear as turning off a 1,000 watt light.

Wait, what?
....... Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and disagree....
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Nope.

Woman thinks it better on the other side and bangs some guy.
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Just because we have the strength to put the dog down doesn't mean we're the ones who neglected it in the first place. We're just the ones pulling the trigger.


To be fair, BES, I'm not convinced that the disparity has as much to do with strength as it does with incentives and bias.

I agree that there are incentives for the women, and that may be a large contributing factor in why women pull the trigger.

That being said, people who are happily married aren't typically just going to up and file for divorce. There are things that happened prior to the divorce that led to the marriage ending. Neglect, resentment, disrespect, dishonesty, even outright abuse are all conditions that lead to the divorce, and there are usually one or more present on both sides of the relationship. While it is absolutely true that it only takes one person to screw up a relationship, the reality is that in the vast majority of cases both parties screwed up along the way. Maybe not the same factors on each side of the relationship, or in the same proportions, but in the end both parties contributed to the demise of the marriage.



Nope.

Woman thinks it better on the other side and bangs some guy.

Sometimes, yes. Sometimes, it's the guy with the side piece. Sometimes there is no side piece. Your experience isn't universal, no matter how badly it affected you.
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I agree that there are incentives for the women, and that may be a large contributing factor in why women pull the trigger.

That being said, people who are happily married aren't typically just going to up and file for divorce. There are things that happened prior to the divorce that led to the marriage ending. Neglect, resentment, disrespect, dishonesty, even outright abuse are all conditions that lead to the divorce, and there are usually one or more present on both sides of the relationship. While it is absolutely true that it only takes one person to screw up a relationship, the reality is that in the vast majority of cases both parties screwed up along the way. Maybe not the same factors on each side of the relationship, or in the same proportions, but in the end both parties contributed to the demise of the marriage.
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Just because we have the strength to put the dog down doesn't mean we're the ones who neglected it in the first place. We're just the ones pulling the trigger.


To be fair, BES, I'm not convinced that the disparity has as much to do with strength as it does with incentives and bias.

I agree that there are incentives for the women, and that may be a large contributing factor in why women pull the trigger.

That being said, people who are happily married aren't typically just going to up and file for divorce. There are things that happened prior to the divorce that led to the marriage ending. Neglect, resentment, disrespect, dishonesty, even outright abuse are all conditions that lead to the divorce, and there are usually one or more present on both sides of the relationship. While it is absolutely true that it only takes one person to screw up a relationship, the reality is that in the vast majority of cases both parties screwed up along the way. Maybe not the same factors on each side of the relationship, or in the same proportions, but in the end both parties contributed to the demise of the marriage.


Sure marriages have problems.  I'm not saying that relationships are perfect until one day the woman decides to jump ship.  This isn't a discussion about all of the legion reasons why divorces happen.

I'm talking about the disparity in who is initiating.  The reason for the disparity isn't because men are primarily responsible for 2/3 of failed marriages.  The disparity exists because the opportunity cost of divorce has been reduced for women compared to the opportunity cost men face in most parts of the nation.

The unintended consequence of the bias is that more and more men are putting off marriage in much of the country, or approaching it much more apprehensively when they are willing to consider it.
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Sometimes, yes. Sometimes, it's the guy with the side piece. Sometimes there is no side piece. Your experience isn't universal, no matter how badly it affected you.
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To be fair, BES, I'm not convinced that the disparity has as much to do with strength as it does with incentives and bias.

I agree that there are incentives for the women, and that may be a large contributing factor in why women pull the trigger.

That being said, people who are happily married aren't typically just going to up and file for divorce. There are things that happened prior to the divorce that led to the marriage ending. Neglect, resentment, disrespect, dishonesty, even outright abuse are all conditions that lead to the divorce, and there are usually one or more present on both sides of the relationship. While it is absolutely true that it only takes one person to screw up a relationship, the reality is that in the vast majority of cases both parties screwed up along the way. Maybe not the same factors on each side of the relationship, or in the same proportions, but in the end both parties contributed to the demise of the marriage.



Nope.

Woman thinks it better on the other side and bangs some guy.

Sometimes, yes. Sometimes, it's the guy with the side piece. Sometimes there is no side piece. Your experience isn't universal, no matter how badly it affected you.




It's pretty common.
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I would bet it's a 50/50 split.

Every time a thread about cheating pops up on here, ie "Have you ever cheated" there's always a large handful of folks sneering at anyone who hasn't, claiming they're lying or riding a high horse.

I've been cheated on twice. I've never cheated on anyone.
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20 year old ass has ruined my life.

But it's a fun ride.
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