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Posted: 1/5/2016 5:13:44 PM EDT
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Do you honestly believe that our government is capable of creating a place where a high majority of life fuck-ups will magically become rehabilitated, productive members of society? LOL The cognitive dissonance is staggering. Let's try this with your logic: Do you honestly believe that our government is capable of creating a system where people are justly parsed between those who should have a right to defend their own lives and those who shouldn't? Because you somehow believe that they can do one, and not the other. Either they are highly competent, or they are not. |
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Posted: 1/5/2016 5:15:17 PM EDT
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Only a liberal believes prisions rehabilitate. You committed a crime, the punishment was you lose a prescribed number of years off your life. If the crime is bad enough you lose them all. If they want one, they'll get one. 
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Posted: 1/5/2016 5:16:17 PM EDT
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I am for 1 law restricting gun ownership in the US, and that is citizenship. If you are not a United States Citizen, you should not be allowed to possess a firearm here. Here's a fun fact. Our Constitution protects EVERYONE. Not just citizens. So are you for or against the constitution? There have been threads here where they have argued that the rights in the Constitution are not unalienable I believe it. It's damn ignorant |
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Posted: 1/5/2016 5:17:24 PM EDT
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I'm OK with children being prevented from buying firearms. Thats the only one I can think of. Am I a FUDD or something now?
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Posted: 1/5/2016 5:19:04 PM EDT
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Only a liberal believes prisions rehabilitate. You committed a crime, the punishment was you lose a prescribed number of years off your life. If the crime is bad enough you lose them all. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I thought prisons were supposed to rehabilitate and punish. Seems like they're doing neither if violent felons who cannot be trusted are released into society. If only there was some way to reduce the amount of non-violent inmates taking up cell space so those violent felons can be rehabilitated ... Only a liberal believes prisions rehabilitate. You committed a crime, the punishment was you lose a prescribed number of years off your life. If the crime is bad enough you lose them all. I do consider myself a liberal, in the Jeffersonian and James Madison sense of the word. I guess you don't agree with those guys 
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Posted: 1/5/2016 5:19:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why are those violent felons out of jail? Why are those schizophrenics that can't be trusted with a gun not committed? I'm confused. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So violent felons and schizophrenics should have guns? I'm confused. Why are those violent felons out of jail? Why are those schizophrenics that can't be trusted with a gun not committed? I'm confused. Felons go to prison, not jail. There is a difference. Where is it written that incarceration is the only possible punishment for a crime? This false dichotomy - prison or freedom - is one thing about this site that perplexes me. Where does it come from? |
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Posted: 1/5/2016 5:20:33 PM EDT
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The cognitive dissonance is staggering. Let's try this with your logic: Do you honestly believe that our government is capable of creating a system where people are justly parsed between those who should have a right to defend their own lives and those who shouldn't? Because you somehow believe that they can do one, and not the other. Either they are highly competent, or they are not. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do you honestly believe that our government is capable of creating a place where a high majority of life fuck-ups will magically become rehabilitated, productive members of society? LOL The cognitive dissonance is staggering. Let's try this with your logic: Do you honestly believe that our government is capable of creating a system where people are justly parsed between those who should have a right to defend their own lives and those who shouldn't? Because you somehow believe that they can do one, and not the other. Either they are highly competent, or they are not. If you want the ability to protect yourself (with a firearm), don't commit a felony. What happened to having responsibility for your own actions? Sounds like something a left winger would say. |
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Posted: 1/5/2016 5:24:49 PM EDT
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Then go ahead and offer up your money to pay for their life sentences. I'm fine with them being set free even on the condition that they may not be 'rehabilitated' but I still think they lost their right to own a firearm. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I all for not allowing VIOLENT convicted felons to have the ability to purchase guns. Spin it however you want... If they're "safe" enough to be in the community then they should have all the rights of a regular citizen. This is what I don't understand with the left. They talk a big game about rehabilitating criminals and hugging thugs and whatnot but they are never interested in actually reintegrating felons into society. Really, if they're so dangerous they can't be trusted with the rights of citizens then they should still be locked up. Then go ahead and offer up your money to pay for their life sentences. I'm fine with them being set free even on the condition that they may not be 'rehabilitated' but I still think they lost their right to own a firearm. Quit talking passively. YOU want to restrict THEIR rights. YOU figure out how to use DUE PROCESS to do it, and leave EVERYONE else out of it. The only way that's been figured out to actually and effectively restrict their rights using due process is... incarceration. That's it. And that restricts their rights because it's NECESSARY component of incarceration. Everything else you implied by saying 'I still think they lost their right to own a firearm' is an infringement: 4473, FFL, NICS, GCA, NFA, Brady Bill, etc. |
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Posted: 1/5/2016 5:26:26 PM EDT
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If you want the ability to protect yourself, don't commit a felony. What happened to having responsibility for your own actions? Preaches personal responsibility. Demands that government help him stay safe from criminals. #facepalm |
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Posted: 1/5/2016 5:27:28 PM EDT
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If you want the ability to protect yourself (with a firearm), don't commit a felony. What happened to having responsibility for your own actions? Sounds like something a left winger would say. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do you honestly believe that our government is capable of creating a place where a high majority of life fuck-ups will magically become rehabilitated, productive members of society? LOL The cognitive dissonance is staggering. Let's try this with your logic: Do you honestly believe that our government is capable of creating a system where people are justly parsed between those who should have a right to defend their own lives and those who shouldn't? Because you somehow believe that they can do one, and not the other. Either they are highly competent, or they are not. If you want the ability to protect yourself (with a firearm), don't commit a felony. What happened to having responsibility for your own actions? Sounds like something a left winger would say. No. If you want the ability to protect yourself with a firearm, move to the United States. Felons should be able to protect themselves, just as much as a priest, mechanics, plumbers, homeless, teachers, jobless, mentally retarded, banker, or child . Prison was their punishment. When the time is flattened, you don't continue punishing someone who has served. If you're free, you should have the right to protect yourself with a firearm. You have been conditioned to believe otherwise. You are disregarding "shall not be infringed" completely |
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Posted: 1/5/2016 5:28:27 PM EDT
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If you want the ability to protect yourself (with a firearm), don't commit a felony. What happened to having responsibility for your own actions? Sounds like something a left winger would say. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do you honestly believe that our government is capable of creating a place where a high majority of life fuck-ups will magically become rehabilitated, productive members of society? LOL The cognitive dissonance is staggering. Let's try this with your logic: Do you honestly believe that our government is capable of creating a system where people are justly parsed between those who should have a right to defend their own lives and those who shouldn't? Because you somehow believe that they can do one, and not the other. Either they are highly competent, or they are not. If you want the ability to protect yourself (with a firearm), don't commit a felony. What happened to having responsibility for your own actions? Sounds like something a left winger would say. 
I tried pointing out a basic double standard, and I was blindsided with another more ridiculous one. Nevermind, bud. |
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Posted: 1/5/2016 5:31:00 PM EDT
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Preaches personal responsibility. Demands that government help him stay safe from criminals. #facepalm Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you want the ability to protect yourself, don't commit a felony. What happened to having responsibility for your own actions? Preaches personal responsibility. Demands that government help him stay safe from criminals. #facepalm His avatar and user name make it even more ironic |
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Posted: 1/5/2016 5:33:30 PM EDT
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Violent felons and schizos shouldn't be walking the streets. Same goes for those that can't be trusted on an airplane. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So violent felons and schizophrenics should have guns? I'm confused. Violent felons and schizos shouldn't be walking the streets. Same goes for those that can't be trusted on an airplane. Should they be locked up forever and just toss out the eighth amendment? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 1/5/2016 5:34:44 PM EDT
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Should they be locked up forever and just toss out the eighth amendment? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So violent felons and schizophrenics should have guns? I'm confused. Violent felons and schizos shouldn't be walking the streets. Same goes for those that can't be trusted on an airplane. Should they be locked up forever and just toss out the eighth amendment? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Well, you're tossing the 2nd. |
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Posted: 1/5/2016 5:36:23 PM EDT
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Should they be locked up forever and just toss out the eighth amendment? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So violent felons and schizophrenics should have guns? I'm confused. Violent felons and schizos shouldn't be walking the streets. Same goes for those that can't be trusted on an airplane. Should they be locked up forever and just toss out the eighth amendment? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Is that worse than setting them free, and tossing the 2nd? |
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Posted: 1/5/2016 5:38:54 PM EDT
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I'm OK with children being prevented from buying firearms. Thats the only one I can think of. Am I a FUDD or something now? The beauty of logic. |
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Posted: 1/5/2016 5:39:29 PM EDT
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Preaches personal responsibility. Demands that government help him stay safe from criminals. #facepalm Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you want the ability to protect yourself, don't commit a felony. What happened to having responsibility for your own actions? Preaches personal responsibility. Demands that government help him stay safe from criminals. #facepalm Let frontier justice be legal . See how silly you sound now. |
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Posted: 1/5/2016 5:40:04 PM EDT
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His avatar and user name make it even more ironic Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you want the ability to protect yourself, don't commit a felony. What happened to having responsibility for your own actions? Preaches personal responsibility. Demands that government help him stay safe from criminals. #facepalm His avatar and user name make it even more ironic Its hilarious trying to have a conversation with people that applaud thugs getting killed n in the next thread fight ruthlessly for their right to defend themselves. So which is it? |
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Posted: 1/5/2016 5:44:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Its hilarious trying to have a conversation with people that applaud thugs getting killed n in the next thread fight ruthlessly for their right to defend themselves. So which is it? Oddly enough, you can get both. Either they've turned their lives around and use them in defense or they haven't and get killed or go back to prison. |
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Posted: 1/5/2016 5:46:12 PM EDT
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Oddly enough, you can get both. Either they've turned their lives around and use them in defense or they haven't and get killed or go back to prison. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Its hilarious trying to have a conversation with people that applaud thugs getting killed n in the next thread fight ruthlessly for their right to defend themselves. So which is it? Oddly enough, you can get both. Either they've turned their lives around and use them in defense or they haven't and get killed or go back to prison. There's a third option where they haven't, continue to commit crimes, and don't get caught. There are more than 2 possible outcomes. |
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Posted: 1/5/2016 5:46:37 PM EDT
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Oddly enough, you can get both. Either they've turned their lives around and use them in defense or they haven't and get killed or go back to prison. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Its hilarious trying to have a conversation with people that applaud thugs getting killed n in the next thread fight ruthlessly for their right to defend themselves. So which is it? Oddly enough, you can get both. Either they've turned their lives around and use them in defense or they haven't and get killed or go back to prison. I would love to think that most convicted felons would use legally purchased firearms for self defense but I am sure you will agree with me that it'll never be the case. |
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Posted: 1/5/2016 5:48:06 PM EDT
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Violent felons and schizos shouldn't be walking the streets. Same goes for those that can't be trusted on an airplane. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So violent felons and schizophrenics should have guns? I'm confused. Violent felons and schizos shouldn't be walking the streets. Same goes for those that can't be trusted on an airplane. That sounds great, but that's not the world we live in. |
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Posted: 1/5/2016 5:48:44 PM EDT
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So violent felons and schizophrenics should have guns? I'm confused. Yes, of course. Few schizophrenics are violent or in danger of becoming violent, and fewer still have been adjudicated mentally defective or found to be a danger to society. Why would you restrict the rights of the many to punish the few? |
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Posted: 1/5/2016 5:50:02 PM EDT
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There's a third option where they haven't, continue to commit crimes, and don't get caught. There are more than 2 possible outcomes. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Its hilarious trying to have a conversation with people that applaud thugs getting killed n in the next thread fight ruthlessly for their right to defend themselves. So which is it? Oddly enough, you can get both. Either they've turned their lives around and use them in defense or they haven't and get killed or go back to prison. There's a third option where they haven't, continue to commit crimes, and don't get caught. There are more than 2 possible outcomes. And in none of those 3 outcomes is any sort of law going to keep them from getting guns. We could never really find out, but I'd be willing to bet that the percentage of convicted felons that have at least one gun is greater than the percentage of the population at large that does. |
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Posted: 1/5/2016 5:51:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There's a third option where they haven't, continue to commit crimes, and don't get caught. There are more than 2 possible outcomes. Then you should probably take some responsibility for your own safety and arm yourself. |
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Posted: 1/5/2016 5:51:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I would love to think that most convicted felons would use legally purchased firearms for self defense but I am sure you will agree with me that it'll never be the case. I don't think it matters whether the firearm they use was purchased legally or not. |
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Posted: 1/5/2016 5:57:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm against every single one of them. I want to be able to buy whatever I want, whenever I want to. '...shall not be infringed.' It's really pretty simple. Now, what you do with that gun, is a different story. Just like a car, ok to own, not ok to speed, drive drunk, kill people, etc. |
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Posted: 1/5/2016 5:57:56 PM EDT
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Then you should probably take some responsibility for your own safety and arm yourself. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There's a third option where they haven't, continue to commit crimes, and don't get caught. There are more than 2 possible outcomes. Then you should probably take some responsibility for your own safety and arm yourself. That's a good idea regardless. Your presentation of only 2 options was still a false dichotomy. 
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Posted: 1/5/2016 5:59:10 PM EDT
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And in none of those 3 outcomes is any sort of law going to keep them from getting guns. We could never really find out, but I'd be willing to bet that the percentage of convicted felons that have at least one gun is greater than the percentage of the population at large that does. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Oddly enough, you can get both. Either they've turned their lives around and use them in defense or they haven't and get killed or go back to prison. There's a third option where they haven't, continue to commit crimes, and don't get caught. There are more than 2 possible outcomes. And in none of those 3 outcomes is any sort of law going to keep them from getting guns. We could never really find out, but I'd be willing to bet that the percentage of convicted felons that have at least one gun is greater than the percentage of the population at large that does. What's the percentage of the population at large which is armed? That's an interesting proposition. Point I was making was that Feeb presented a false dichotomy. |
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Posted: 1/5/2016 5:59:51 PM EDT
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'Shall not be infringed' means exactly what it says.
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Posted: 1/5/2016 6:00:00 PM EDT
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I do consider myself a liberal, in the Jeffersonian and James Madison sense of the word. I guess you don't agree with those guys Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I thought prisons were supposed to rehabilitate and punish. Seems like they're doing neither if violent felons who cannot be trusted are released into society. If only there was some way to reduce the amount of non-violent inmates taking up cell space so those violent felons can be rehabilitated ... Only a liberal believes prisions rehabilitate. You committed a crime, the punishment was you lose a prescribed number of years off your life. If the crime is bad enough you lose them all. I do consider myself a liberal, in the Jeffersonian and James Madison sense of the word. I guess you don't agree with those guys Not everyone does, |
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Posted: 1/5/2016 6:00:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's a good idea regardless. Your presentation of only 2 options was still a false dichotomy. It wasn't meant to be an all encompassing portrayal of reality. I am, after all, dealing with someone who thinks it is more difficult to buy a gun outside of a gun store than inside of a gun store in a nation with half a billion unregistered guns in circulation. |
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Posted: 1/5/2016 6:01:37 PM EDT
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Dude. Just because somebody had a psychotic break or raped a child doesn't mean they shouldn't have guns.  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So violent felons and schizophrenics should have guns? I'm confused. Dude. Just because somebody had a psychotic break or raped a child doesn't mean they shouldn't have guns. I agree |
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Posted: 1/5/2016 6:01:49 PM EDT
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There's a third option where they haven't, continue to commit crimes, and don't get caught. There are more than 2 possible outcomes. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Its hilarious trying to have a conversation with people that applaud thugs getting killed n in the next thread fight ruthlessly for their right to defend themselves. So which is it? Oddly enough, you can get both. Either they've turned their lives around and use them in defense or they haven't and get killed or go back to prison. There's a third option where they haven't, continue to commit crimes, and don't get caught. There are more than 2 possible outcomes. Therefore, we should all jump through hoops like Background Checks to prevent that from happening even though we can't prevent that from happening. Brilliant!
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Posted: 1/5/2016 6:05:34 PM EDT
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Its hilarious trying to have a conversation with people that applaud thugs getting killed n in the next thread fight ruthlessly for their right to defend themselves. So which is it? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you want the ability to protect yourself, don't commit a felony. What happened to having responsibility for your own actions? Preaches personal responsibility. Demands that government help him stay safe from criminals. #facepalm His avatar and user name make it even more ironic Its hilarious trying to have a conversation with people that applaud thugs getting killed n in the next thread fight ruthlessly for their right to defend themselves. So which is it? Gun-grabbers universally display a marked lack of intelligence. 
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Posted: 1/5/2016 6:08:03 PM EDT
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All gun regulations need to be rolled back to 1789. This. The lawless aren't going to care about laws so why handicap everyone else? |
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Posted: 1/5/2016 6:08:36 PM EDT
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For the record I am not disagreeing, or agreeing with anybody in this thread.
I do want to pick some brains here though for those saying no restrictions should be put in place. How do you guys feel about medical devices, medications, etc? A lot of these require a medical license to purchase, yet I don't see an uproar over that? Just curious. |
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Posted: 1/5/2016 6:09:41 PM EDT
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Dude. Just because somebody had a psychotic break or raped a child doesn't mean they shouldn't have guns. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So violent felons and schizophrenics should have guns? I'm confused. Dude. Just because somebody had a psychotic break or raped a child doesn't mean they shouldn't have guns. So you're skipping over the part where someone who does that shouldn't be walking around in the first place? |
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Posted: 1/5/2016 6:10:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For the record I am not disagreeing, or agreeing with anybody in this thread. I do want to pick some brains here though for those saying no restrictions should be put in place. How do you guys feel about medical devices, medications, etc? A lot of these require a medical license to purchase, yet I don't see an uproar over that? Just curious. I'm fine with it all being over the counter. Or Amazon Prime. |
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Posted: 1/5/2016 6:14:02 PM EDT
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If you want the ability to protect yourself (with a firearm), don't commit a felony. What happened to having responsibility for your own actions? Sounds like something a left winger would say. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do you honestly believe that our government is capable of creating a place where a high majority of life fuck-ups will magically become rehabilitated, productive members of society? LOL The cognitive dissonance is staggering. Let's try this with your logic: Do you honestly believe that our government is capable of creating a system where people are justly parsed between those who should have a right to defend their own lives and those who shouldn't? Because you somehow believe that they can do one, and not the other. Either they are highly competent, or they are not. If you want the ability to protect yourself (with a firearm), don't commit a felony. What happened to having responsibility for your own actions? Sounds like something a left winger would say. No, it doesn't Not at all. You're way off base and your feels are showing. Rights are rights. The end. If a person serves their time and is released, they should not be stripped of any rights. I would argue that doing so is actually illegal under the Constitution, as are gun laws of all types. Freedom will, it seems, always be scary for some people but there will never be a shortage of those who believe they are more qualified to tell others what to do. |
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Posted: 1/5/2016 6:15:34 PM EDT
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Not everyone does, http://tse3.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.M511a58ef7ec21870513c1298f9087acfH0&pid=15.1 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I thought prisons were supposed to rehabilitate and punish. Seems like they're doing neither if violent felons who cannot be trusted are released into society. If only there was some way to reduce the amount of non-violent inmates taking up cell space so those violent felons can be rehabilitated ... Only a liberal believes prisions rehabilitate. You committed a crime, the punishment was you lose a prescribed number of years off your life. If the crime is bad enough you lose them all. I do consider myself a liberal, in the Jeffersonian and James Madison sense of the word. I guess you don't agree with those guys Not everyone does, http://tse3.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.M511a58ef7ec21870513c1298f9087acfH0&pid=15.1 Ah, the old, "they owned slaves" adage. I remember when Communist cock sucker Ed Schultz said that in his attack on the 2A. |
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Posted: 1/5/2016 6:15:55 PM EDT
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Its hilarious trying to have a conversation with people that applaud thugs getting killed n in the next thread fight ruthlessly for their right to defend themselves. So which is it? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you want the ability to protect yourself, don't commit a felony. What happened to having responsibility for your own actions? Preaches personal responsibility. Demands that government help him stay safe from criminals. #facepalm His avatar and user name make it even more ironic Its hilarious trying to have a conversation with people that applaud thugs getting killed n in the next thread fight ruthlessly for their right to defend themselves. So which is it? Both. I fail to see the problem. |
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Posted: 1/5/2016 6:17:12 PM EDT
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For the record I am not disagreeing, or agreeing with anybody in this thread. I do want to pick some brains here though for those saying no restrictions should be put in place. How do you guys feel about medical devices, medications, etc? A lot of these require a medical license to purchase, yet I don't see an uproar over that? Just curious. I'm fine with it all being over the counter. Or Amazon Prime. Same. It should be. The government has no authorization to manage that. It's all about money. |
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Posted: 1/5/2016 6:18:03 PM EDT
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I'm against every single one of them. I want to be able to buy whatever I want, whenever I want to. |
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Posted: 1/5/2016 6:24:40 PM EDT
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Quoted: are you are for laws restricting gun ownership/possession or against those laws. This is everything. CHL/CCW to NFA, GCA everything. If you even agree with one law that restricts gun ownership or possession you are an anti in my book. I am stick of this fucking this law is ok but this one isn't. Go over to DU where you belong. I don't want drunk people driving cars does that make me anti beer. . I want it to be against the law to steal does that make me anti possession. I am sick of traffic laws maybe we should just dispense with all of them..If you don't agree you are anti driving..Yes we have too many gun restrictions. Yes we as law abiding citizens should be able to buy what we want when we want and carry where we want. We still need laws or we become a land of anarchy.
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Posted: 1/5/2016 6:36:03 PM EDT
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If you want the ability to protect yourself (with a firearm), don't commit a felony. What happened to having responsibility for your own actions? Sounds like something a left winger would say. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do you honestly believe that our government is capable of creating a place where a high majority of life fuck-ups will magically become rehabilitated, productive members of society? LOL The cognitive dissonance is staggering. Let's try this with your logic: Do you honestly believe that our government is capable of creating a system where people are justly parsed between those who should have a right to defend their own lives and those who shouldn't? Because you somehow believe that they can do one, and not the other. Either they are highly competent, or they are not. If you want the ability to protect yourself (with a firearm), don't commit a felony. What happened to having responsibility for your own actions? Sounds like something a left winger would say. My father was convicted of a white collar crime felony. I don't want to go into the details, but he was a gambling addict and made a poor decision in regards to a relatively small amount of money (a couple thousand). He repaid all money plus interst and penalties. He hasn't gambled in 13 years. He is not nor has he ever been violent. Why does his mistake cost him his right? You know what, FUCK YOU Commurado! I don't want to hear your fucking bullshit answer about treading on others rights you <coc> <coc-er>!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Posted: 1/5/2016 6:36:03 PM EDT
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We can't even keep felons from killing each other IN prison. What makes you think a gun law is going to stop them once they get out?
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Posted: 1/5/2016 6:38:16 PM EDT
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My father was convicted of a white collar crime felony. I don't want to go into the details, but he was a gambling addict and made a poor decision in regards to a relatively small amount of money (a couple thousand). He repaid all money plus interst and penalties. He hasn't gambled in 13 years. He is not nor has he ever been violent. Why does his mistake cost him his right? You know what, FUCK YOU Commurado! I don't want to hear your fucking bullshit answer about treading on others rights you <coc> <coc-er>!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do you honestly believe that our government is capable of creating a place where a high majority of life fuck-ups will magically become rehabilitated, productive members of society? LOL The cognitive dissonance is staggering. Let's try this with your logic: Do you honestly believe that our government is capable of creating a system where people are justly parsed between those who should have a right to defend their own lives and those who shouldn't? Because you somehow believe that they can do one, and not the other. Either they are highly competent, or they are not. If you want the ability to protect yourself (with a firearm), don't commit a felony. What happened to having responsibility for your own actions? Sounds like something a left winger would say. My father was convicted of a white collar crime felony. I don't want to go into the details, but he was a gambling addict and made a poor decision in regards to a relatively small amount of money (a couple thousand). He repaid all money plus interst and penalties. He hasn't gambled in 13 years. He is not nor has he ever been violent. Why does his mistake cost him his right? You know what, FUCK YOU Commurado! I don't want to hear your fucking bullshit answer about treading on others rights you <coc> <coc-er>!!!!!!!!!!!! I said VIOLENT felons. lmfao see page 1 |
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Posted: 1/5/2016 6:38:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/5/2016 6:38:40 PM EDT
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So violent felons and schizophrenics should have guns? I'm confused. What about all those Violent , I mean, Non Violent Felons Obama let out ? Confused by poll also. |
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