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We're talking about people who have served their sentences and been released back into society. I don't think anyone supports prisoners owning guns on the cell block. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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'created' equal. after committing a violent crime and convicted of that crime, you aren't equal anymore are you? We're talking about people who have served their sentences and been released back into society. I don't think anyone supports prisoners owning guns on the cell block. I wonder if it Is easier for violent felons to get guns in prison or for violent felons to get guns on the black market... |
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We're talking about people who have served their sentences and been released back into society. I don't think anyone supports prisoners owning guns on the cell block. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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'created' equal. after committing a violent crime and convicted of that crime, you aren't equal anymore are you? We're talking about people who have served their sentences and been released back into society. I don't think anyone supports prisoners owning guns on the cell block. you do realize that a very high percentage of these felons are re-peat offenders right? allowing them to go purchase a gun right after leaving the pen to commit their next crime is a great idea! Maybe we should construct gun shops at the exit door of the Pen so they can exercise their god given rights and to satisfy all the arfcommers!! and... while I'm sure a-lot of them can get guns on the street, its' definitely a-lot harder. Besides, pretty sure that felons in possession of a illegal firearm and especially one during a crime allows prosecutors to convict with alot more severity in terms of sentence. |
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Quoted: you do realize that a very high percentage of these felons are re-peat offenders right? allowing them to go purchase a gun right after leaving the pen to commit their next crime is a great idea! Maybe we should construct gun shops at the exit door of the Pen so they can exercise their god given rights and to satisfy all the arfcommers!! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: you do realize that a very high percentage of these felons are re-peat offenders right? allowing them to go purchase a gun right after leaving the pen to commit their next crime is a great idea! Maybe we should construct gun shops at the exit door of the Pen so they can exercise their god given rights and to satisfy all the arfcommers!! But they already buy one of the half billion guns in circulation and commit crimes with them. So again, I ask, how are you planning on stopping them? Quoted: and... while I'm sure a-lot of them can get guns on the street, its' definitely a-lot harder. Quoted: Besides, pretty sure that felons in possession of a illegal firearm and especially one during a crime allows prosecutors to convict with alot more severity in terms of sentence. So instead of just keeping them in prison, cause it's too expensive... You let them out. They commit more crimes with more victims. You pay for yet another trial and then sentence them to longer terms because they used a gun. Then you pay for them to be in prison anyway. |
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you do realize that a very high percentage of these felons are re-peat offenders right? allowing them to go purchase a gun right after leaving the pen to commit their next crime is a great idea! Maybe we should construct gun shops at the exit door of the Pen so they can exercise their god given rights and to satisfy all the arfcommers!! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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'created' equal. after committing a violent crime and convicted of that crime, you aren't equal anymore are you? We're talking about people who have served their sentences and been released back into society. I don't think anyone supports prisoners owning guns on the cell block. you do realize that a very high percentage of these felons are re-peat offenders right? allowing them to go purchase a gun right after leaving the pen to commit their next crime is a great idea! Maybe we should construct gun shops at the exit door of the Pen so they can exercise their god given rights and to satisfy all the arfcommers!! If they're destined to re-offend then why are we letting them out of prison? Sounds like your problem is with criminal sentencing rather than with gun rights. |
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you do realize that a very high percentage of these felons are re-peat offenders right? allowing them to go purchase a gun right after leaving the pen to commit their next crime is a great idea! Maybe we should construct gun shops at the exit door of the Pen so they can exercise their god given rights and to satisfy all the arfcommers!! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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'created' equal. after committing a violent crime and convicted of that crime, you aren't equal anymore are you? We're talking about people who have served their sentences and been released back into society. I don't think anyone supports prisoners owning guns on the cell block. you do realize that a very high percentage of these felons are re-peat offenders right? allowing them to go purchase a gun right after leaving the pen to commit their next crime is a great idea! Maybe we should construct gun shops at the exit door of the Pen so they can exercise their god given rights and to satisfy all the arfcommers!! I suspect the guy who just left the pen is still under some sort of supervision in most cases. |
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you do realize that a very high percentage of these felons are re-peat offenders right? allowing them to go purchase a gun right after leaving the pen to commit their next crime is a great idea! Maybe we should construct gun shops at the exit door of the Pen so they can exercise their god given rights and to satisfy all the arfcommers!! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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'created' equal. after committing a violent crime and convicted of that crime, you aren't equal anymore are you? We're talking about people who have served their sentences and been released back into society. I don't think anyone supports prisoners owning guns on the cell block. you do realize that a very high percentage of these felons are re-peat offenders right? allowing them to go purchase a gun right after leaving the pen to commit their next crime is a great idea! Maybe we should construct gun shops at the exit door of the Pen so they can exercise their god given rights and to satisfy all the arfcommers!! if they haven't bee rehabilitated why have they been released from prison? And it isn't like by their current prohibited person status they are not getting guns, they just aren't buying them at the local Wallmarks. |
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If they're destined to re-offend then why are we letting them out of prison? Sounds like your problem is with criminal sentencing rather than with gun rights. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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'created' equal. after committing a violent crime and convicted of that crime, you aren't equal anymore are you? We're talking about people who have served their sentences and been released back into society. I don't think anyone supports prisoners owning guns on the cell block. you do realize that a very high percentage of these felons are re-peat offenders right? allowing them to go purchase a gun right after leaving the pen to commit their next crime is a great idea! Maybe we should construct gun shops at the exit door of the Pen so they can exercise their god given rights and to satisfy all the arfcommers!! If they're destined to re-offend then why are we letting them out of prison? Sounds like your problem is with criminal sentencing rather than with gun rights. because that's how our system is setup. The prison infrastructure does not allow us to keep all violent felons behind bars for their entire life. We already have the largest prison population in the world right? Im done in this thread though... I like a good discussion from time to time though |
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Sure, why not, they've always been able to buy/own guns before the background check bullshit. When they shoot someone, shoot them dead on the spot, or hang them. The problem isn't guns, it's criminals getting chance after chance, when they should be dead or rotting in prison, so I'm going to go ahead and blame the judges and or DA's. Also, if you own a gun shop and don't want to sell to an individual who isn't quite right in the head, you may deny a sale to the above mentioned persons. Your shop, your rules UNLESS YOU ARE A BAKERY. But hey, it's America, and we should be ruled by fucking assholes like Obama and the P.C. feelz brigade. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So violent felons and schizophrenics should have guns? I'm confused. Sure, why not, they've always been able to buy/own guns before the background check bullshit. When they shoot someone, shoot them dead on the spot, or hang them. The problem isn't guns, it's criminals getting chance after chance, when they should be dead or rotting in prison, so I'm going to go ahead and blame the judges and or DA's. Also, if you own a gun shop and don't want to sell to an individual who isn't quite right in the head, you may deny a sale to the above mentioned persons. Your shop, your rules UNLESS YOU ARE A BAKERY. But hey, it's America, and we should be ruled by fucking assholes like Obama and the P.C. feelz brigade. FIFY |
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are you are for laws restricting gun ownership/possession or against those laws. This is everything. CHL/CCW to NFA, GCA everything. If you even agree with one law that restricts gun ownership or possession you are an anti in my book. I am stick of this fucking this law is ok but this one isn't. Go over to DU where you belong. View Quote Grow up. |
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Why are those violent felons out of jail? Why are those schizophrenics that can't be trusted with a gun not committed? I'm confused. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So violent felons and schizophrenics should have guns? I'm confused. Why are those violent felons out of jail? Why are those schizophrenics that can't be trusted with a gun not committed? I'm confused. Because freedom. There are more right out there then just the 2a. You did ten home invasions, paid your debt and are released. You have paid your debt, you still are not someone to be trusted with a weapon. |
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We're talking about people who have served their sentences and been released back into society. I don't think anyone supports prisoners owning guns on the cell block. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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'created' equal. after committing a violent crime and convicted of that crime, you aren't equal anymore are you? We're talking about people who have served their sentences and been released back into society. I don't think anyone supports prisoners owning guns on the cell block. So a couple of hood rats that just served 7 years for a mugging and beating of an elderly lady should be able to waltz out of prison and walk to the nearest gun store and buy a few handguns? If you say well they shouldn't have been released , that's an invalid argument because our justice system doesn't provide life for every violent crime |
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If they're "safe" enough to be in the community then they should have all the rights of a regular citizen. This is what I don't understand with the left. They talk a big game about rehabilitating criminals and hugging thugs and whatnot but they are never interested in actually reintegrating felons into society. Really, if they're so dangerous they can't be trusted with the rights of citizens then they should still be locked up. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I all for not allowing VIOLENT convicted felons to have the ability to purchase guns. Spin it however you want... If they're "safe" enough to be in the community then they should have all the rights of a regular citizen. This is what I don't understand with the left. They talk a big game about rehabilitating criminals and hugging thugs and whatnot but they are never interested in actually reintegrating felons into society. Really, if they're so dangerous they can't be trusted with the rights of citizens then they should still be locked up. How do they earn back the public trust if they are never released? |
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Guns are a great responsibility. We should punish crimes involving the use of weapons, harshly.
However, I also believe that neither poverty nor past actions should take away your right to self defense. Zero laws surrounding guns themselves, make the laws about the crime. |
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Threads like this are absolutely retarded. You know the answer to this. Every single person will say they're against gun control, a few idiots will vote for gun control but not comment in the thread, and it will end up like every other thread like it.
This is a gun website. Read the question you asked, then say "this is a gun website" |
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the big ones you will see are the prohibitions in the gca ie felons crazy people illegal immigrants etc
i've always maintained that if they can not be trusted to be free in society without harming others they shouldn't be free in society |
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Take every murder ever committed by violent felons and schizophrenics in the entire history of the United States then compare that to the deaths in an unarmed tyrannical state such as Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union, China, or Cambodia. It would be less than one percent. Risk of a tyrannical government versus armed violent felons and schizophrenics? Arm every felon and schizophrenic we would be much safer. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So violent felons and schizophrenics should have guns? I'm confused. Take every murder ever committed by violent felons and schizophrenics in the entire history of the United States then compare that to the deaths in an unarmed tyrannical state such as Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union, China, or Cambodia. It would be less than one percent. Risk of a tyrannical government versus armed violent felons and schizophrenics? Arm every felon and schizophrenic we would be much safer. You think our freedom from a tyrannical government rests on violent armed felons. LOL |
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I am for 1 law restricting gun ownership in the US, and that is citizenship. If you are not a United States Citizen, you should not be allowed to possess a firearm here.
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Should a violent felon released from prison be allowed to drive on public streets?
It would be well within the constitutional purview of the government to disallow that... |
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I am for 1 law restricting gun ownership in the US, and that is citizenship. If you are not a United States Citizen, you should not be allowed to possess a firearm here. View Quote Here's a fun fact. Our Constitution protects EVERYONE. Not just citizens. So are you for or against the constitution? |
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Take every murder ever committed by violent felons and schizophrenics in the entire history of the United States then compare that to the deaths in an unarmed tyrannical state such as Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union, China, or Cambodia. It would be less than one percent. Risk of a tyrannical government versus armed violent felons and schizophrenics? Arm every felon and schizophrenic we would be much safer. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So violent felons and schizophrenics should have guns? I'm confused. Take every murder ever committed by violent felons and schizophrenics in the entire history of the United States then compare that to the deaths in an unarmed tyrannical state such as Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union, China, or Cambodia. It would be less than one percent. Risk of a tyrannical government versus armed violent felons and schizophrenics? Arm every felon and schizophrenic we would be much safer. Yep. This is where I'm at. Abolish all gun laws. |
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Quoted: are you are for laws restricting gun ownership/possession or against those laws. This is everything. CHL/CCW to NFA, GCA everything. If you even agree with one law that restricts gun ownership or possession you are an anti in my book. I am stick of this fucking this law is ok but this one isn't. Go over to DU where you belong. View Quote Other than that…no, I am not in favor of laws that restrict gun ownership. |
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Quoted: Threads like this are absolutely retarded. You know the answer to this. Every single person will say they're against gun control, a few idiots will vote for gun control but not comment in the thread, and it will end up like every other thread like it. This is a gun website. Read the question you asked, then say "this is a gun website" View Quote You should read the thread. There are plenty of people actively supporting gun control. |
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Because freedom. There are more right out there then just the 2a. You did ten home invasions, paid your debt and are released. You have paid your debt, you still are not someone to be trusted with a weapon. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So violent felons and schizophrenics should have guns? I'm confused. Why are those violent felons out of jail? Why are those schizophrenics that can't be trusted with a gun not committed? I'm confused. Because freedom. There are more right out there then just the 2a. You did ten home invasions, paid your debt and are released. You have paid your debt, you still are not someone to be trusted with a weapon. I thought prisons were supposed to rehabilitate and punish. Seems like they're doing neither if violent felons who cannot be trusted are released into society. If only there was some way to reduce the amount of non-violent inmates taking up cell space so those violent felons can be rehabilitated ... |
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Quoted: Then go ahead and offer up your money to pay for their life sentences. I'm fine with them being set free even on the condition that they may not be 'rehabilitated' but I still think they lost their right to own a firearm. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I all for not allowing VIOLENT convicted felons to have the ability to purchase guns. Spin it however you want... If they're "safe" enough to be in the community then they should have all the rights of a regular citizen. This is what I don't understand with the left. They talk a big game about rehabilitating criminals and hugging thugs and whatnot but they are never interested in actually reintegrating felons into society. Really, if they're so dangerous they can't be trusted with the rights of citizens then they should still be locked up. Then go ahead and offer up your money to pay for their life sentences. I'm fine with them being set free even on the condition that they may not be 'rehabilitated' but I still think they lost their right to own a firearm. So un-rehabilitated felons should be free to only stab or maul people???? Got it. |
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Gun Grabber !! I would add a minimum age requirement to that list, call me crazy. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I am for 1 law restricting gun ownership in the US, and that is citizenship. If you are not a United States Citizen, you should not be allowed to possess a firearm here. Gun Grabber !! I would add a minimum age requirement to that list, call me crazy. Nice first post. Would you support a government mandated minimum age to start a blog or youtube channel as well? |
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I thought prisons were supposed to rehabilitate and punish. Seems like they're doing neither if violent felons who cannot be trusted are released into society. If only there was some way to reduce the amount of non-violent inmates taking up cell space so those violent felons can be rehabilitated ... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So violent felons and schizophrenics should have guns? I'm confused. Why are those violent felons out of jail? Why are those schizophrenics that can't be trusted with a gun not committed? I'm confused. Because freedom. There are more right out there then just the 2a. You did ten home invasions, paid your debt and are released. You have paid your debt, you still are not someone to be trusted with a weapon. I thought prisons were supposed to rehabilitate and punish. Seems like they're doing neither if violent felons who cannot be trusted are released into society. If only there was some way to reduce the amount of non-violent inmates taking up cell space so those violent felons can be rehabilitated ... Do you honestly believe that our government is capable of creating a place where a high majority of life fuck-ups will magically become rehabilitated, productive members of society? LOL |
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Gun Grabber !! I would add a minimum age requirement to that list, call me crazy. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I am for 1 law restricting gun ownership in the US, and that is citizenship. If you are not a United States Citizen, you should not be allowed to possess a firearm here. Gun Grabber !! I would add a minimum age requirement to that list, call me crazy. I don't know, if a 10 year old came I in and threw down $1k in cash to buy a gun I'd say let him have it. Don't like age requirements for anything though. |
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You should read the thread. There are plenty of people actively supporting gun control. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Threads like this are absolutely retarded. You know the answer to this. Every single person will say they're against gun control, a few idiots will vote for gun control but not comment in the thread, and it will end up like every other thread like it. This is a gun website. Read the question you asked, then say "this is a gun website" You should read the thread. There are plenty of people actively supporting gun control. Yep, I posted it before reading, now I'm eatin crow. Everyone here in support of any gun law should be ashamed |
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Do you honestly believe that our government is capable of creating a place where a high majority of life fuck-ups will magically become rehabilitated, productive members of society? LOL View Quote Well, you seem to think it's tougher to buy a gun illegally on the street than from a licensed dealer..... glass houses and all that. |
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Do you honestly believe that our government is capable of creating a place where a high majority of life fuck-ups will magically become rehabilitated, productive members of society? LOL View Quote Nope, but I think that is more a commentary on where we are as a society, not reflective on the massive fuck up, sprawling morass of local-state-federal government we have now. |
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I would add a minimum age requirement to that list, call me crazy. Parental decision, not a government decision. Have you seen the "parents" these days?! Have you seen our government these days? I'll take my chances with the parents. |
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Quoted: Yep, I posted it before reading, now I'm eatin crow. Everyone here in support of any gun law should be ashamed View Quote If history is any indication, the support restrictions side will climb to around 40% before the thread is out and someone is likely to support universal background checks backed up with a biometric federal ID. |
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Violent felons and schizos shouldn't be walking the streets. Same goes for those that can't be trusted on an airplane. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So violent felons and schizophrenics should have guns? I'm confused. Violent felons and schizos shouldn't be walking the streets. Same goes for those that can't be trusted on an airplane. And here is where the derp starts. I guess ill just go on over to DU now because OP says im a commie. |
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So violent felons and schizophrenics should have guns? I'm confused. Why are those violent felons out of jail? Why are those schizophrenics that can't be trusted with a gun not committed? I'm confused. Because freedom. There are more right out there then just the 2a. You did ten home invasions, paid your debt and are released. You have paid your debt, you still are not someone to be trusted with a weapon. I thought prisons were supposed to rehabilitate and punish. Seems like they're doing neither if violent felons who cannot be trusted are released into society. If only there was some way to reduce the amount of non-violent inmates taking up cell space so those violent felons can be rehabilitated ... Do you honestly believe that our government is capable of creating a place where a high majority of life fuck-ups will magically become rehabilitated, productive members of society? LOL Abuse of freedom should lead to a loss of freedom. Now, that said, people also shouldn't pay the price for one mistake. Either way I don't think guns should be the things being regulated in these scenarios. |
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I all for not allowing VIOLENT convicted felons to have the ability to purchase guns. Spin it however you want... If they're "safe" enough to be in the community then they should have all the rights of a regular citizen. This is what I don't understand with the left. They talk a big game about rehabilitating criminals and hugging thugs and whatnot but they are never interested in actually reintegrating felons into society. Really, if they're so dangerous they can't be trusted with the rights of citizens then they should still be locked up. Then go ahead and offer up your money to pay for their life sentences. I'm fine with them being set free even on the condition that they may not be 'rehabilitated' but I still think they lost their right to own a firearm. So un-rehabilitated felons should be free to only stab or maul people???? Got it. or run people over with cars? |
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I am for 1 law restricting gun ownership in the US, and that is citizenship. If you are not a United States Citizen, you should not be allowed to possess a firearm here. Here's a fun fact. Our Constitution protects EVERYONE. Not just citizens. So are you for or against the constitution? There have been threads here where they have argued that the rights in the Constitution are not unalienable |
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I thought prisons were supposed to rehabilitate and punish. Seems like they're doing neither if violent felons who cannot be trusted are released into society. If only there was some way to reduce the amount of non-violent inmates taking up cell space so those violent felons can be rehabilitated ... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So violent felons and schizophrenics should have guns? I'm confused. Why are those violent felons out of jail? Why are those schizophrenics that can't be trusted with a gun not committed? I'm confused. Because freedom. There are more right out there then just the 2a. You did ten home invasions, paid your debt and are released. You have paid your debt, you still are not someone to be trusted with a weapon. I thought prisons were supposed to rehabilitate and punish. Seems like they're doing neither if violent felons who cannot be trusted are released into society. If only there was some way to reduce the amount of non-violent inmates taking up cell space so those violent felons can be rehabilitated ... Only a liberal believes prisions rehabilitate. You committed a crime, the punishment was you lose a prescribed number of years off your life. If the crime is bad enough you lose them all. |
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Violent felons and schizos shouldn't be walking the streets. Same goes for those that can't be trusted on an airplane. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So violent felons and schizophrenics should have guns? I'm confused. Violent felons and schizos shouldn't be walking the streets. Same goes for those that can't be trusted on an airplane. I would have agreed with you, but the no-fly list is a joke. A cruel joke that denies people due process and is easy to be put on and impossible to removed from. |
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