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Posted: 12/9/2015 10:06:25 PM EDT
I don't understand people spending their lives worrying about other people. I just can't get my head around it.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/12/09/atheist-billboards-skip-church-on-christmas/?intcmp=hpcmt 
An atheist group ruffled some feathers after it bought at least two billboards urging people to skip church on Christmas, Fox 21 reported Monday. The billboards feature a smiling Santa Claus with the text: "Just be good for goodness sake. Happy Holidays! The signs appear in Colorado Springs, Colorado, and Raleigh, North Carolina. American Atheists program director Nick Fish said his group aimed to combat stereotypes. We want it to be either a little funny, or edgy, or provocative in some way, so when people see it, they stop and go, Hey, wait a second, what did that just say?' he told WCNC. Not everybody was on board. It can be insulting to those who are religious and do celebrate it for Christianity and religion in general, Alexis Esselman told Fox 21. The group reports that it targets areas where evangelical Christianity has a significant presence. |
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Posted: 12/9/2015 10:52:49 PM EDT
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Everyone who is upset has forgotten why this country exists.
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Posted: 12/9/2015 10:54:52 PM EDT
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LOL! To some atheist it becomes something like a religion of its own and they try to win over converts.
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Posted: 12/9/2015 10:56:09 PM EDT
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Everyone who is upset has forgotten why this country exists. I don't think anyone is upset that atheists are practicing their religion. |
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Posted: 12/9/2015 10:57:16 PM EDT
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And a Merry Christmas to you, good sir.
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Posted: 12/9/2015 10:57:21 PM EDT
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As an atheist I have no use for campaigns like this. Seems like just poking Christians at a Christian holiday to rile them up.
Doesn't help anything. I say Merry Christmas, btw. |
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Posted: 12/9/2015 10:59:55 PM EDT
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It's ok, it is poking fun at Christians. If this was making fun of Mohamed Zero would hold a press conference.
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Posted: 12/9/2015 11:00:10 PM EDT
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Why do they want to "target" evangelicals? Do they think they will switch to Atheism over a bill board?
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Posted: 12/9/2015 11:00:17 PM EDT
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It's the same reason liberals want to ban guns.
It's the same reason that homosexuals are pushing their end game of assaulting the Church by trying to force gay marriages. It's the same explanation of why everything obama does is against America, Israel and common sense. Evil. Once you understand that aethists, agnostics are against God himself, then the rest makes sense. Evil isn't happy enough to just be evil, it has to pull down others. |
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Posted: 12/9/2015 11:02:05 PM EDT
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Just another billboard.
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Posted: 12/9/2015 11:07:48 PM EDT
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Why even bother saying Happy Holidays? If you're not Jewish, Muslim (is there a minor Muslim holiday in December? I can't remember.) or Christian, December should have no special significance. Just say Happy New Year.
Eta: why aren't they saying skip Temple, too? (Yes, that was a rhetorical question) |
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Posted: 12/9/2015 11:08:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As an atheist I have no use for campaigns like this. Seems like just poking Christians at a Christian holiday to rile them up. Doesn't help anything. I say Merry Christmas, btw. |
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Posted: 12/9/2015 11:08:34 PM EDT
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Same reason Christians use signs to evangelize. No more, no less.
If that's OK for Christians, this sign is ok for atheist. Freedom of speech and religion, how does it work? |
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Posted: 12/9/2015 11:09:21 PM EDT
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It's the same reason liberals want to ban guns. It's the same reason that homosexuals are pushing their end game of assaulting the Church by trying to force gay marriages. It's the same explanation of why everything obama does is against America, Israel and common sense. Evil. Once you understand that aethists, agnostics are against God himself, then the rest makes sense. Evil isn't happy enough to just be evil, it has to pull down others. Fucking lol 
Yeah, ok. |
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Posted: 12/9/2015 11:10:15 PM EDT
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I don't think anyone is upset that atheists are practicing their religion. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Everyone who is upset has forgotten why this country exists. I don't think anyone is upset that atheists are practicing their religion. I just wish they'd get it out of the schools. |
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Posted: 12/9/2015 11:11:17 PM EDT
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So atheists celebrate Christmas?
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Posted: 12/9/2015 11:13:39 PM EDT
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It's the same reason liberals want to ban guns. It's the same reason that homosexuals are pushing their end game of assaulting the Church by trying to force gay marriages. It's the same explanation of why everything obama does is against America, Israel and common sense. Evil. Once you understand that aethists, agnostics are against God himself, then the rest makes sense. Evil isn't happy enough to just be evil, it has to pull down others. haha |
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Posted: 12/9/2015 11:15:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Once you understand that aethists, agnostics are against God himself, then the rest makes sense. Nice big brush you have, there. I am not against god, or you, just don't believe in gods. I don't have any interest in talking you out of it, either, unless you start pulling the "you're evil because...." bullshit. |
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Posted: 12/9/2015 11:16:48 PM EDT
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I couldn't care less. I see it as no different than the Christian billboards I see everywhere.
I am not an Athiest or Christian for the record. |
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Posted: 12/9/2015 11:16:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Same reason Christians use signs to evangelize. No more, no less. If that's OK for Christians, this sign is ok for atheist. Freedom of speech and religion, how does it work? |
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Posted: 12/9/2015 11:18:09 PM EDT
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As an atheist I have no use for campaigns like this. Seems like just poking Christians at a Christian holiday to rile them up. Doesn't help anything. |
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Posted: 12/9/2015 11:18:27 PM EDT
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So atheists celebrate Christmas? |
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Posted: 12/9/2015 11:18:40 PM EDT
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Same reason Christians use signs to evangelize. No more, no less. If that's OK for Christians, this sign is ok for atheist. Freedom of speech and religion, how does it work? It's freedom of speech and all, but it's not the same thing. Christians evangelize because they think they're saving your soul from eternal damnation. The Bible tells them to do it. What are these atheists trying to do for the Christians? |
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Posted: 12/9/2015 11:19:51 PM EDT
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Same reason Christians use signs to evangelize. No more, no less. If that's OK for Christians, this sign is ok for atheist. Freedom of speech and religion, how does it work? Yup. |
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Posted: 12/9/2015 11:19:54 PM EDT
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I don't understand people spending their lives worrying about other people. I just can't get my head around it.
Not trying to be a dick, but do you see the irony in the first sentence here? 
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Posted: 12/9/2015 11:22:14 PM EDT
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Everyone who is upset has forgotten why this country exists. Because this country was founded by Christians fleeing persecution from England  Is that what you were referring to?
Listen! The only reason this country is where it is today is because of its once profound relationship with/to God. Now we are continuing to rapidly move away from Him, and we will continue to see the rapid deterioration of freedoms that come along with such choices. It will not be getting any better in this country. God is no respector of nations, and He considers them less than a drop in the bucket. ISAIAH 40:15 Behold, the nations are as a drop of a bucket, and are counted as the small dust of the balance:... PSALMS 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nation's that forget God. Just because God can be longsuffering does not mean He is not just. It's going to hurt, big time! |
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Posted: 12/9/2015 11:22:48 PM EDT
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Deist here (believes there is a "God" of some sort, but follows no religion whatsoever).
I cannot fathom what the atheists gain by spending money on these billboards. Whatever. Free speech and all that. |
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Posted: 12/9/2015 11:23:08 PM EDT
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As an atheist I have no use for campaigns like this. Seems like just poking Christians at a Christian holiday to rile them up. Doesn't help anything. I say Merry Christmas, btw. Yup. |
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Posted: 12/9/2015 11:25:40 PM EDT
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I'm going to mass on Christmas.
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Posted: 12/9/2015 11:26:27 PM EDT
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I don't understand people spending their lives worrying about other people. I just can't get my head around it.
Says the guy posting about other people worrying about other people. So are you worrying about how other people think about other people? Just another billboard. Who cares. |
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Posted: 12/9/2015 11:27:16 PM EDT
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Not trying to be a dick, but do you see the irony in the first sentence here? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't understand people spending their lives worrying about other people. I just can't get my head around it. Not trying to be a dick, but do you see the irony in the first sentence here? Obviously not. If he did, he wouldn't have made such a silly remark. |
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Posted: 12/9/2015 11:27:29 PM EDT
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As an atheist I have no use for campaigns like this. Seems like just poking Christians at a Christian holiday to rile them up. Doesn't help anything. I say Merry Christmas, btw. You, as an atheist, are the equivalent of the one or two Muslims you can find to condemn Islamic terrorism. Fact is, the vast majority of atheists are just assholes that look to insult Christians. |
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Posted: 12/9/2015 11:28:36 PM EDT
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Listen! The only reason this country is where it is today is because of its once profound relationship with/to God. Now we are continuing to rapidly move away from Him, and we will continue to see the rapid deterioration of freedoms that come along with such choices. It will not be getting any better in this country. God is no respector of nations, and He considers them less than a drop in the bucket. That explains why Romania, Greece, Haiti, Puerto Rico, and the Congo are the fantastic places they are, what with their having a higher percentage of Christians than the USA, by far. (Before someone assumes that I'm saying a high percentage of Christians is a bad thing - I'm not. But it's not the protection against immorality that many claim it to be, or vacationing in the Congo would be a thing.) |
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Posted: 12/9/2015 11:28:47 PM EDT
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Not trying to be a dick, but do you see the irony in the first sentence here? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't understand people spending their lives worrying about other people. I just can't get my head around it.
Not trying to be a dick, but do you see the irony in the first sentence here? Yes, I see it. However, I assure you, I'm not a bit worried about Christians and Atheists. They can fight among themselves all they want. |
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Posted: 12/9/2015 11:28:50 PM EDT
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It's freedom of speech and all, but it's not the same thing. Christians evangelize because they think they're saving your soul from eternal damnation. The Bible tells them to do it. What are these atheists trying to do for the Christians? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Same reason Christians use signs to evangelize. No more, no less. If that's OK for Christians, this sign is ok for atheist. Freedom of speech and religion, how does it work? It's freedom of speech and all, but it's not the same thing. Christians evangelize because they think they're saving your soul from eternal damnation. The Bible tells them to do it. What are these atheists trying to do for the Christians? LOL |
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Posted: 12/9/2015 11:28:51 PM EDT
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Ho! Ho! Ho!
And it's off we go! |
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Posted: 12/9/2015 11:29:31 PM EDT
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As an atheist (not a convert; grew up that way) I can't help but think groups like American Atheists must be terribly insecure.
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Posted: 12/9/2015 11:29:39 PM EDT
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Nice of them to waste their money.
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Posted: 12/9/2015 11:29:49 PM EDT
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Christians are an easy target, they won't fight back. Get back to me when the atheists start their campaign against Islam.
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Posted: 12/9/2015 11:31:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's the same reason liberals want to ban guns. It's the same reason that homosexuals are pushing their end game of assaulting the Church by trying to force gay marriages. It's the same explanation of why everything obama does is against America, Israel and common sense. Evil. Once you understand that aethists, agnostics are against God himself, then the rest makes sense. Evil isn't happy enough to just be evil, it has to pull down others. And we're off! |
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Posted: 12/9/2015 11:31:40 PM EDT
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Says the guy posting about other people worrying about other people. So are you worrying about how other people think about other people? Just another billboard. Who cares. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't understand people spending their lives worrying about other people. I just can't get my head around it.
Says the guy posting about other people worrying about other people. So are you worrying about how other people think about other people? Just another billboard. Who cares. You have my pointing and laughing confused with worry. |
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Posted: 12/9/2015 11:31:44 PM EDT
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Why even bother saying Happy Holidays? Last I checked, Christmas is also a secular holiday. |
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Posted: 12/9/2015 11:34:24 PM EDT
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I'll go to Church in the Colorado Springs on Christmas Eve, Take my chain saw for a tune up.
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Posted: 12/9/2015 11:35:04 PM EDT
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Last I checked, Christmas is also a secular holiday. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why even bother saying Happy Holidays? Last I checked, Christmas is also a secular holiday. Secular greetings to you and yours. Xe is the reason for the season. Have a day. |
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Posted: 12/9/2015 11:35:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nice of them to waste their money. |
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Posted: 12/9/2015 11:35:58 PM EDT
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Christians are an easy target, they won't fight back. Get back to me when the atheists start their campaign against Islam. Atheists have been speaking out against Islam for a long time: Richard Dawkins: “They are certainly stupid, but they know exactly what Islam is. Islam is the religion that wins arguments by killing its opponents and crying ‘Islamophobia’ at anyone who objects.” “I said that Islam is evil. I did NOT say Muslims are evil. Indeed, most of the victims of Islam are Muslims. Especially female ones.” Christopher Hitchens: “Demands that you believe the impossible do not lead to peaceful outcomes.” "If these books were the word of God, particularly with respect to Islam, they must have come when God was having a bad day." "Unfortunately, even in our free society, we are becoming less free because there now exists a legitimate fear of reprisals from offended Muslims." Bill Maher: "Vast numbers of Christians do not believe that if you leave the Christian religion you should be killed for it. Vast numbers of Christians do not treat women as second class citizens." " But most Muslim people in the world do condone violence just for what you think. They do. First of all they say it. They shout it." Sam Harris: "It is time we recognized—and obliged the Muslim world to recognize—that “Muslim extremism” is not extreme among Muslims. Mainstream Islam itself represents an extremist rejection of intellectual honesty, gender equality, secular politics and genuine pluralism. The truth about Islam is as politically incorrect as it is terrifying: Islam is all fringe and no center. " "Religious sociopaths kill innocents by the hundreds in the capitols of Europe, blow up the offices of the U.N. and the Red Cross, purposefully annihilate crowds of children gathered to collect candy from U.S. soldiers on the streets of Baghdad, kidnap journalists, behead them, and the videos of their butchery become the most popular form of pornography in the Muslim world, and no one utters a word of protest because these atrocities have been perpetrated “in defense of Islam." So much so, that liberals have turned their backs on them and called them "Islamophobes." |
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Posted: 12/9/2015 11:36:10 PM EDT
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Christians are an easy target, they won't fight back. Get back to me when the atheists start their campaign against Islam. LOL I really hope you are not waiting for that to happen. it won't. Anyways as far as the billboards, Meh, I don't care, they state why they are doing it, to be edgy. good for them, i find it neither edgy or clever, simply stupid. but to each his own |
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Posted: 12/9/2015 11:36:45 PM EDT
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Church is open on Christmas?
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Posted: 12/9/2015 11:37:36 PM EDT
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I don't understand people spending their lives worrying about other people. I just can't get my head around it.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/12/09/atheist-billboards-skip-church-on-christmas/?intcmp=hpcmt http://a57.foxnews.com/global.fncstatic.com/static/managed/img/News/876/493/cobillboard1210.jpg?ve=1&tl=1 An atheist group ruffled some feathers after it bought at least two billboards urging people to skip church on Christmas, Fox 21 reported Monday. The billboards feature a smiling Santa Claus with the text: "Just be good for goodness sake. Happy Holidays! The signs appear in Colorado Springs, Colorado, and Raleigh, North Carolina. American Atheists program director Nick Fish said his group aimed to combat stereotypes. We want it to be either a little funny, or edgy, or provocative in some way, so when people see it, they stop and go, Hey, wait a second, what did that just say?' he told WCNC. Not everybody was on board. It can be insulting to those who are religious and do celebrate it for Christianity and religion in general, Alexis Esselman told Fox 21. The group reports that it targets areas where evangelical Christianity has a significant presence. Saw it in colo Spgs this past week |
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Posted: 12/9/2015 11:37:46 PM EDT
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Atheists have been speaking out against Islam for a long time: Richard Dawkins: “They are certainly stupid, but they know exactly what Islam is. Islam is the religion that wins arguments by killing its opponents and crying ‘Islamophobia’ at anyone who objects.” “I said that Islam is evil. I did NOT say Muslims are evil. Indeed, most of the victims of Islam are Muslims. Especially female ones.” Christopher Hitchens: “Demands that you believe the impossible do not lead to peaceful outcomes.” "If these books were the word of God, particularly with respect to Islam, they must have come when God was having a bad day." "Unfortunately, even in our free society, we are becoming less free because there now exists a legitimate fear of reprisals from offended Muslims." Bill Maher: "Vast numbers of Christians do not believe that if you leave the Christian religion you should be killed for it. Vast numbers of Christians do not treat women as second class citizens." " But most Muslim people in the world do condone violence just for what you think. They do. First of all they say it. They shout it." Sam Harris: "It is time we recognized—and obliged the Muslim world to recognize—that “Muslim extremism” is not extreme among Muslims. Mainstream Islam itself represents an extremist rejection of intellectual honesty, gender equality, secular politics and genuine pluralism. The truth about Islam is as politically incorrect as it is terrifying: Islam is all fringe and no center. " "Religious sociopaths kill innocents by the hundreds in the capitols of Europe, blow up the offices of the U.N. and the Red Cross, purposefully annihilate crowds of children gathered to collect candy from U.S. soldiers on the streets of Baghdad, kidnap journalists, behead them, and the videos of their butchery become the most popular form of pornography in the Muslim world, and no one utters a word of protest because these atrocities have been perpetrated “in defense of Islam." So much so, that liberals have turned their backs on them and called them "Islamophobes." Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Christians are an easy target, they won't fight back. Get back to me when the atheists start their campaign against Islam. Atheists have been speaking out against Islam for a long time: Richard Dawkins: “They are certainly stupid, but they know exactly what Islam is. Islam is the religion that wins arguments by killing its opponents and crying ‘Islamophobia’ at anyone who objects.” “I said that Islam is evil. I did NOT say Muslims are evil. Indeed, most of the victims of Islam are Muslims. Especially female ones.” Christopher Hitchens: “Demands that you believe the impossible do not lead to peaceful outcomes.” "If these books were the word of God, particularly with respect to Islam, they must have come when God was having a bad day." "Unfortunately, even in our free society, we are becoming less free because there now exists a legitimate fear of reprisals from offended Muslims." Bill Maher: "Vast numbers of Christians do not believe that if you leave the Christian religion you should be killed for it. Vast numbers of Christians do not treat women as second class citizens." " But most Muslim people in the world do condone violence just for what you think. They do. First of all they say it. They shout it." Sam Harris: "It is time we recognized—and obliged the Muslim world to recognize—that “Muslim extremism” is not extreme among Muslims. Mainstream Islam itself represents an extremist rejection of intellectual honesty, gender equality, secular politics and genuine pluralism. The truth about Islam is as politically incorrect as it is terrifying: Islam is all fringe and no center. " "Religious sociopaths kill innocents by the hundreds in the capitols of Europe, blow up the offices of the U.N. and the Red Cross, purposefully annihilate crowds of children gathered to collect candy from U.S. soldiers on the streets of Baghdad, kidnap journalists, behead them, and the videos of their butchery become the most popular form of pornography in the Muslim world, and no one utters a word of protest because these atrocities have been perpetrated “in defense of Islam." So much so, that liberals have turned their backs on them and called them "Islamophobes." well that certainly is a well orchestrated campaign you list right there. thanks for the information |
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Posted: 12/9/2015 11:40:37 PM EDT
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Because this country was founded by Christians fleeing persecution from England Is that what you were referring to?
Listen! The only reason this country is where it is today is because of its once profound relationship with/to God. Now we are continuing to rapidly move away from Him, and we will continue to see the rapid deterioration of freedoms that come along with such choices. It will not be getting any better in this country. God is no respector of nations, and He considers them less than a drop in the bucket. ISAIAH 40:15 Behold, the nations are as a drop of a bucket, and are counted as the small dust of the balance:... PSALMS 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nation's that forget God. Just because God can be longsuffering does not mean He is not just. It's going to hurt, big time! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Everyone who is upset has forgotten why this country exists. Because this country was founded by Christians fleeing persecution from England Is that what you were referring to?
Listen! The only reason this country is where it is today is because of its once profound relationship with/to God. Now we are continuing to rapidly move away from Him, and we will continue to see the rapid deterioration of freedoms that come along with such choices. It will not be getting any better in this country. God is no respector of nations, and He considers them less than a drop in the bucket. ISAIAH 40:15 Behold, the nations are as a drop of a bucket, and are counted as the small dust of the balance:... PSALMS 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nation's that forget God. Just because God can be longsuffering does not mean He is not just. It's going to hurt, big time! I am not looking to get into a passing match but a couple of differing views. First the Pilgrims came to America because they disliked the church of England and were kind of jerks about it so then they made a business deal with the Virginia Company to come to America to basically live in religious isolation. Of course it depends on who is telling the story as to what version you hear. Second this country wasn't founded by Pilgrims. It was founded by a Decleration of Independence followed by a Constitution. 1776 not 1620. Now I know there are lots of arguments about Christian values and that is fine being a frame work for our laws and that is fine. But I hate this picture that the liberals paint of what our country was founded on meaning immigration, and I hate the premise America was born from Christianity. We were happy being English up until we were sick of being treated unfairly by our government. We didn't part ways because of religion. |
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