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Posted: 10/16/2015 10:12:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What the frick?!!!  |
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Posted: 10/16/2015 10:18:28 PM EDT
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lmao kid in the water!
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What the frick?!!!
That was pretty hilarious! What a dunce. |
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Posted: 10/16/2015 10:20:47 PM EDT
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lol sends parker contract. parker signs it. beets then changes it
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Posted: 10/16/2015 10:24:23 PM EDT
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lol sends parker contract. parker signs it. beets then changes it Yea, that guy is hard to deal with, but Parker does not handle it well either. |
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Posted: 10/16/2015 10:26:38 PM EDT
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Yea, that guy is hard to deal with, but Parker does not handle it well either. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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lol sends parker contract. parker signs it. beets then changes it Yea, that guy is hard to deal with, but Parker does not handle it well either. Except that beets is completely in the wrong. He made an offer and parker accepted. |
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Posted: 10/16/2015 10:34:13 PM EDT
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D'OH!
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Posted: 10/16/2015 10:45:20 PM EDT
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and now this is a lesson in corporate negotiations
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Posted: 10/16/2015 10:58:51 PM EDT
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 Ha, Beets got a taste of his own medicine. |
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Posted: 10/16/2015 11:00:49 PM EDT
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Ha, Beets got a taste of his own medicine.Yep, but he seemed to respect the kid more after. |
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Posted: 10/16/2015 11:02:00 PM EDT
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Todd's supercut sponsored by supercuts.
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Posted: 10/17/2015 2:06:02 AM EDT
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You just proved his point. Thats nothing. This equipment isnt cheap to run. Those are staggering losses, if the show wasnt helping out. I remember one season a poster here pointed out that if you paused it when parker and his mom were talking about a big diesel bill, the bill had something to the effect of "will volvo help out with this?" written on it. It was volvo or w/e equipment company was the sponser that year. I ran some rough numbers last year on parkers operation based off of equipment lease, repair, diesel, and minimum wage. From what i remember i was thinking he likely would have broke even without the show. Remember also that the gold is refined so they lose some of the weight in gold due to impurities, on top of that they dont get spot, the refiners take a cut. Also the show talks about total oz mined, but never subracts the landlords 10 percent cut from that total. They probably burn 500 dollars an hour just in fuel. My next door neighbor at work owns a road construction company. He went to Alaska during the recession to mine gold. He came back to build roads and never spoke of gold again. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The only money the Hoffmans are making is from the show Yea, no, not so much. Most people seem to forget that Toad and his boys have pulled out quite a bit of gold. Had toad stayed in the Yukon instead of heading south he would have kicked everyone asses that season. Season 2: Porcupine Creek (Hurt et al.): 80.4 oz (2,280 g) $125,000 Big Nugget Mine (Schnabel et al.): 34 oz (960 g) $55,000 Quartz Creek (Hoffman et al.): 93.5 oz (2,650 g) $150,000 Season 3: The Hoffman crew mined 803oz. of gold earning them over $1.28 million Parker and Dakota Fred mined 191oz. and 163oz, respectively, worth over a quarter million dollars each. This in comparison to the first season where nobody earned more than 50oz. of gold. You just proved his point. Thats nothing. This equipment isnt cheap to run. Those are staggering losses, if the show wasnt helping out. I remember one season a poster here pointed out that if you paused it when parker and his mom were talking about a big diesel bill, the bill had something to the effect of "will volvo help out with this?" written on it. It was volvo or w/e equipment company was the sponser that year. I ran some rough numbers last year on parkers operation based off of equipment lease, repair, diesel, and minimum wage. From what i remember i was thinking he likely would have broke even without the show. Remember also that the gold is refined so they lose some of the weight in gold due to impurities, on top of that they dont get spot, the refiners take a cut. Also the show talks about total oz mined, but never subracts the landlords 10 percent cut from that total. They probably burn 500 dollars an hour just in fuel. My next door neighbor at work owns a road construction company. He went to Alaska during the recession to mine gold. He came back to build roads and never spoke of gold again. Agree fully with your assessment. Here was the fun I had at the end of last season trying to make sense of the Hoffman 'profit': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euA-dSHcNdg |
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Posted: 10/17/2015 2:36:55 AM EDT
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I enjoy the show for what it is...mindless entertainment. Other than the injected drama of gold goals, break downs, and Nancy boy fights, it's probably the best "reality TV" show on the air right now. It's fun to watch and beats building stupid looking motorcycles for famous people or cooking and hoping you don't piss off Gordon Ramsey.
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Posted: 10/17/2015 3:07:00 AM EDT
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Agree fully with your assessment. Here was the fun I had at the end of last season trying to make sense of the Hoffman 'profit': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euA-dSHcNdg I laughed when I watched it the first time. You still haven't worked out the details of the profits of Dakota Fred, Parker and Tony Beets I see. We all know that Toad makes money off of this show, it was his brainchild. The only people making money is Tony and Freddie. The money Tony made off of Parker last year was pure profit. |
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Posted: 10/17/2015 7:52:57 AM EDT
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I missed the last 2 seasons, but it is still pretty much the same from what I saw last night.
What happened to Dakota Fred? |
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Posted: 10/17/2015 9:01:14 AM EDT
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I missed the last 2 seasons, but it is still pretty much the same from what I saw last night. What happened to Dakota Fred? Here is my understanding after piecing together posts from Dakota Fred's Facebook page: At the end of season 4, Discovery made a series of cost-cutting measures and they were going to reduce the amount Dakota Fred would get paid per episode. But Dakota Fred was already souring on continuing the show because instead of gold mining all day, he found he was constantly being told by producers what to do, what to say, and recreating events for the camera. He told Discovery, "If you want me to be an actor, you need to pay me like an actor." They refused, and so he left. He did go on to mine the waterfall claim you see at the end of season 4. However, we do not know how much gold he found as he had a deal to make a new show called "All that Glitters" that was supposed to air, but as of yet never has. As of this summer he was back at Porcupine Creek, but he wasn't mining the Glory Hole. How do I know? Because my father-in-law went up to see him - we have family in the area. |
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Posted: 10/17/2015 10:42:31 AM EDT
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What was the outcome of Tony trying to pull the screw job on Parker?
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Posted: 10/17/2015 10:45:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What was the outcome of Tony trying to pull the screw job on Parker? Tony wanted Gene to work the dredge, but Parker had a non-compete contract with Gene. Parker wanted more virgin land to mine and they got the deal done. |
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Posted: 10/17/2015 11:01:29 AM EDT
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Agree fully with your assessment. Here was the fun I had at the end of last season trying to make sense of the Hoffman 'profit': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euA-dSHcNdg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The only money the Hoffmans are making is from the show Yea, no, not so much. Most people seem to forget that Toad and his boys have pulled out quite a bit of gold. Had toad stayed in the Yukon instead of heading south he would have kicked everyone asses that season. Season 2: Porcupine Creek (Hurt et al.): 80.4 oz (2,280 g) $125,000 Big Nugget Mine (Schnabel et al.): 34 oz (960 g) $55,000 Quartz Creek (Hoffman et al.): 93.5 oz (2,650 g) $150,000 Season 3: The Hoffman crew mined 803oz. of gold earning them over $1.28 million Parker and Dakota Fred mined 191oz. and 163oz, respectively, worth over a quarter million dollars each. This in comparison to the first season where nobody earned more than 50oz. of gold. You just proved his point. Thats nothing. This equipment isnt cheap to run. Those are staggering losses, if the show wasnt helping out. I remember one season a poster here pointed out that if you paused it when parker and his mom were talking about a big diesel bill, the bill had something to the effect of "will volvo help out with this?" written on it. It was volvo or w/e equipment company was the sponser that year. I ran some rough numbers last year on parkers operation based off of equipment lease, repair, diesel, and minimum wage. From what i remember i was thinking he likely would have broke even without the show. Remember also that the gold is refined so they lose some of the weight in gold due to impurities, on top of that they dont get spot, the refiners take a cut. Also the show talks about total oz mined, but never subracts the landlords 10 percent cut from that total. They probably burn 500 dollars an hour just in fuel. My next door neighbor at work owns a road construction company. He went to Alaska during the recession to mine gold. He came back to build roads and never spoke of gold again. Agree fully with your assessment. Here was the fun I had at the end of last season trying to make sense of the Hoffman 'profit': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euA-dSHcNdg Seeing your video was actually what gave me the idea to run parkers numbers. If I get time later this year I may start a thread and get some input from heavy equipment guys to put together realistic operating costs. I know a lot based on what my subcontractors charge me but we do mechanical work, sub out anything beyond a backhoe, skidsteer or trencher. My best friend packs and hauls silage for dairies. I know he says on a semi truck hauling silage you pretty much count on 500 bucks a day in diesel at moderate prices. |
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Posted: 10/17/2015 12:33:36 PM EDT
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Show needs moar boobs. 
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Posted: 10/17/2015 1:53:40 PM EDT
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Here is my understanding after piecing together posts from Dakota Fred's Facebook page: At the end of season 4, Discovery made a series of cost-cutting measures and they were going to reduce the amount Dakota Fred would get paid per episode. But Dakota Fred was already souring on continuing the show because instead of gold mining all day, he found he was constantly being told by producers what to do, what to say, and recreating events for the camera. He told Discovery, "If you want me to be an actor, you need to pay me like an actor." They refused, and so he left. He did go on to mine the waterfall claim you see at the end of season 4. However, we do not know how much gold he found as he had a deal to make a new show called "All that Glitters" that was supposed to air, but as of yet never has. As of this summer he was back at Porcupine Creek, but he wasn't mining the Glory Hole. How do I know? Because my father-in-law went up to see him - we have family in the area. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I missed the last 2 seasons, but it is still pretty much the same from what I saw last night. What happened to Dakota Fred? Here is my understanding after piecing together posts from Dakota Fred's Facebook page: At the end of season 4, Discovery made a series of cost-cutting measures and they were going to reduce the amount Dakota Fred would get paid per episode. But Dakota Fred was already souring on continuing the show because instead of gold mining all day, he found he was constantly being told by producers what to do, what to say, and recreating events for the camera. He told Discovery, "If you want me to be an actor, you need to pay me like an actor." They refused, and so he left. He did go on to mine the waterfall claim you see at the end of season 4. However, we do not know how much gold he found as he had a deal to make a new show called "All that Glitters" that was supposed to air, but as of yet never has. As of this summer he was back at Porcupine Creek, but he wasn't mining the Glory Hole. How do I know? Because my father-in-law went up to see him - we have family in the area. Thanks! I'm trying to catch up. I always liked them when I was keeping up. |
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Posted: 10/17/2015 1:57:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Except that beets is completely in the wrong. He made an offer and parker accepted. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: lol sends parker contract. parker signs it. beets then changes it Yea, that guy is hard to deal with, but Parker does not handle it well either. Except that beets is completely in the wrong. He made an offer and parker accepted. |
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Posted: 10/17/2015 2:27:10 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/17/2015 2:58:13 PM EDT
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Quote Historyjust please god, not those boobs. |
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Posted: 10/17/2015 3:00:00 PM EDT
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lol. Just watched it this morning. The part where the kid ran the excavator into the pond was awesome.
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Posted: 10/17/2015 3:19:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI dvr that show because of this whiney bitch. I just zip right past her and Zeke. |
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Posted: 10/17/2015 7:02:37 PM EDT
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Todd's supercut sponsored by supercuts. I love the subtle sponsorship's in the show. "Oh no, fuckface drove a 150klb excavator on the ice and broke through... grab the  POLARIS, we need to rescue him!!!" Parker did it a couple seasons ago, too. I need to check out the far side of this cut. There's some pretty rugged ground over there, better take my.... ahem.... *extra manly voice* Polaris Ranger.
Anyway, excavator on the fucking ice??? In April??? If that's my goldmine, that kid is fired. Fired. FIRED. Nobody with judgement that bad should be operating anything larger than a big wheel. Also, I noticed that Parker got a new Raptor. After he was done putting the wood to Tony for some new claims, he walked outside and started it up. Was it just me or did that thing have a diesel in it? Do Raptors have diesels in them now?? |
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Posted: 10/17/2015 7:06:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I love the subtle sponsorship's in the show. "Oh no, fuckface drove a 150klb excavator on the ice and broke through... grab the POLARIS, we need to rescue him!!!" Parker did it a couple seasons ago, too. I need to check out the far side of this cut. There's some pretty rugged ground over there, better take my.... ahem.... *extra manly voice* Polaris Ranger. Anyway, excavator on the fucking ice??? In April??? If that's my goldmine, that kid is fired. Fired. FIRED. Nobody with judgement that bad should be operating anything larger than a big wheel. Also, I noticed that Parker got a new Raptor. After he was done putting the wood to Tony for some new claims, he walked outside and started it up. Was it just me or did that thing have a diesel in it? Do Raptors have diesels in them now?? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Todd's supercut sponsored by supercuts. I love the subtle sponsorship's in the show. "Oh no, fuckface drove a 150klb excavator on the ice and broke through... grab the POLARIS, we need to rescue him!!!" Parker did it a couple seasons ago, too. I need to check out the far side of this cut. There's some pretty rugged ground over there, better take my.... ahem.... *extra manly voice* Polaris Ranger. Anyway, excavator on the fucking ice??? In April??? If that's my goldmine, that kid is fired. Fired. FIRED. Nobody with judgement that bad should be operating anything larger than a big wheel. Also, I noticed that Parker got a new Raptor. After he was done putting the wood to Tony for some new claims, he walked outside and started it up. Was it just me or did that thing have a diesel in it? Do Raptors have diesels in them now?? I think the entire thing was staged for drama. |
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Posted: 10/17/2015 7:09:01 PM EDT
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Also, I noticed that Parker got a new Raptor. After he was done putting the wood to Tony for some new claims, he walked outside and started it up. Was it just me or did that thing have a diesel in it? Do Raptors have diesels in them now?? I thought was the same truck he had last year? I did not think it was a diesel but could have missed it. Those guys do have nice trucks on that show. |
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Posted: 10/17/2015 7:11:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI think the entire thing was staged for drama. I thought the same thing. Looked fake, |
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Posted: 10/17/2015 7:16:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI think that girl thats working for parker this season might be decent. Was hard to tell though. Needs more camera time to confirm. |
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Posted: 10/17/2015 7:18:47 PM EDT
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I Googled Todd Hoffman's net worth, and this site LINK listed him worth $400k
I thought this show would have paid him more... (I know he didn't make it off gold) |
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Posted: 10/17/2015 8:30:20 PM EDT
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Toad is a dick.. 'hey guys! you have to double last years haul.'  "this is going to be the biggest season ever!"....every. single. season. |
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Posted: 10/17/2015 9:42:44 PM EDT
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watched the first hour so far
Todd making deals without consulting his crew, I mean he shook hands on the deal and all |
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Posted: 10/17/2015 9:43:05 PM EDT
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Parker's old crew except for one told him to go pound sand LOL
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Posted: 10/18/2015 5:02:24 AM EDT
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I thought was the same truck he had last year? I did not think it was a diesel but could have missed it. Those guys do have nice trucks on that show. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Also, I noticed that Parker got a new Raptor. After he was done putting the wood to Tony for some new claims, he walked outside and started it up. Was it just me or did that thing have a diesel in it? Do Raptors have diesels in them now?? I thought was the same truck he had last year? I did not think it was a diesel but could have missed it. Those guys do have nice trucks on that show. It's a first year Raptor - 2010. 5.4L (310HP/354TQ) - new 6.2L (411HP/434TQ) has engine badges on the side - 2014 was the last year for the current Raptor. 2016 is supposed to be a twin-turbo V-6 putting out about 500HP. I've had both a 2010 and 2013 - heck of a difference performance wise between the two. Parker's gave him self a reward, just not a real big reward. |
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Posted: 10/18/2015 10:11:33 AM EDT
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Seeing your video was actually what gave me the idea to run parkers numbers. If I get time later this year I may start a thread and get some input from heavy equipment guys to put together realistic operating costs. I know a lot based on what my subcontractors charge me but we do mechanical work, sub out anything beyond a backhoe, skidsteer or trencher. My best friend packs and hauls silage for dairies. I know he says on a semi truck hauling silage you pretty much count on 500 bucks a day in diesel at moderate prices. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Agree fully with your assessment. Here was the fun I had at the end of last season trying to make sense of the Hoffman 'profit': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euA-dSHcNdg Seeing your video was actually what gave me the idea to run parkers numbers. If I get time later this year I may start a thread and get some input from heavy equipment guys to put together realistic operating costs. I know a lot based on what my subcontractors charge me but we do mechanical work, sub out anything beyond a backhoe, skidsteer or trencher. My best friend packs and hauls silage for dairies. I know he says on a semi truck hauling silage you pretty much count on 500 bucks a day in diesel at moderate prices. I'll be interested in seeing what you find. I based my numbers solely on what we were told by the 'actors' on the show. In all the comments on the video, I was amazed to see how many people knew the actual running costs of each vehicle by the hour. |
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Posted: 10/18/2015 10:36:29 AM EDT
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Didn't watch last sean, not going to watch this season. Show went full on retard.
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Posted: 10/18/2015 10:49:10 AM EDT
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Bingo. So many shows do this. Drives me up the wall.
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if you don't mind a recap at every commercial, like you didn't just see that shit 3 minutes ago. Theres 20 minutes of show in a hour of bullshit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I actually love the show other than gold rush I watch moutain men and hockey. That's about it. It's the only show on TV you'll find with heavy equipment involved. It's about the only reason I watch it |
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Posted: 10/18/2015 1:12:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThe only accessories she needs is industrial strength bags to put over her head. 
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Posted: 10/18/2015 6:16:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryParker has a female on his crew now. |
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Posted: 10/18/2015 6:19:01 PM EDT
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Also, I noticed that Parker got a new Raptor. After he was done putting the wood to Tony for some new claims, he walked outside and started it up. Was it just me or did that thing have a diesel in it? Do Raptors have diesels in them now?? I noticed that too. I'm guessing it was the video editing people fucking up. |
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Posted: 10/18/2015 6:20:34 PM EDT
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How is it already back on? The mining season is probably just coming to an end out there.  Uh, it started 4 months ago, so by the time they get to the end of the season production will have caught up |
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Posted: 10/18/2015 8:14:52 PM EDT
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Just finished watching the first show on DVR
Parker has his virgin land The supercut turned all to mud but they somehow managed to strip it Tony's making the dredge safe. I think all 3 teams will kick ass this season |
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Posted: 10/18/2015 8:24:51 PM EDT
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Just finished watching the first show on DVR Parker has his virgin land The supercut turned all to mud but they somehow managed to strip it Tony's making the dredge safe. I think all 3 teams will kick ass this season I wanna see Tony get the second dredge going. As to his first contract with Parker That was kind of fucked up, but I hope Parker learned a lesson.
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Posted: 10/18/2015 8:25:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Got the DVR set, I refuse to watch live and forced to watch the commercials That's the only way to watch these shows, no commercials. Derp gets too deep, fast forward 30 seconds. |
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Posted: 10/18/2015 8:29:16 PM EDT
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GLORY HOLE!!! That old guy just loves saying Glory Hole to get it on T.V. |
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Posted: 10/18/2015 8:49:20 PM EDT
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Most reality shows are all the same, just the backdrop changes. Gold, crabs, motorcycles, cars, firearms, whatever.
The only constant is a cast dominated by folks trapped emotionally in 9th grade.
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Posted: 10/19/2015 11:20:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wanna see Tony get the second dredge going. As to his first contract with Parker That was kind of fucked up, but I hope Parker learned a lesson. I imagine Tony got wind of Parker wanting to mine with his grandpa again on the side and then changed the deal. I can see how he'd be a little pissed at Parker and I can see how parker thought he had a deal. Tony is still a dick. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Just finished watching the first show on DVR Parker has his virgin land The supercut turned all to mud but they somehow managed to strip it Tony's making the dredge safe. I think all 3 teams will kick ass this season I wanna see Tony get the second dredge going. As to his first contract with Parker That was kind of fucked up, but I hope Parker learned a lesson. I imagine Tony got wind of Parker wanting to mine with his grandpa again on the side and then changed the deal. I can see how he'd be a little pissed at Parker and I can see how parker thought he had a deal. Tony is still a dick. I think that was made up drama also. Same with Tony's wife shutting down the dredge until railings were put on. Tony knows that the mine can/will be inspected by the Gov't so he would get fined heavy if the proper safety gear wasn't there. They just made it look like his wife was lowering the boom on Tony. |
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Posted: 10/19/2015 12:21:57 PM EDT
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I wonder how long it will be before Gene and Tony butt heads?
I can see Gene wanting to do it the right way, and Tony yelling like a madman to get it done. This could be interesting. 
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Posted: 10/19/2015 12:37:04 PM EDT
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I wonder how long it will be before Gene and Tony butt heads? I can see Gene wanting to do it the right way, and Tony yelling like a madman to get it done. This could be interesting. Parker got the better end of that deal. Hard to say in real life, but they portray Gene as a gold hound ho knows his shit but always wants it done his way or out comes the tantrum. If that's his true personality, him and Tony will have at it more than once. My question is...if Gene is such an expert why does he not have his own operation.... |
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