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Posted: 10/3/2015 11:58:19 AM EDT
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Instead of getting angry over the semantics of automatic/semi-automatic, I'd focus on the information that suggests the rifle wasn't actually fired in the course of shooting. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I just saw on ABCNEWS, Good Morning America, the shooter had an, AUTOMATIC RIFLE, they stated it and had the words AUTOMATIC RIFLE, in bold large letters splashed on the TV Screen, 
Dear ABC, this is your head, this is your ass, they are not interchangeable and learn some journalism skills before you report stupid shit to the sheeple. Micro rant done. Instead of getting angry over the semantics of automatic/semi-automatic, I'd focus on the information that suggests the rifle wasn't actually fired in the course of shooting. While I agree with you the apparent fact that he didn't use the rifle is most important, in this case the semantics are hugely important as well. The term "automatic rifle" is specifically being used to scare the uninformed into thinking "machine gun" so they will throw their support behind new legislation further restricting "assault weapons". |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 12:12:21 PM EDT
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JUST TOPPED $600K FOR THE HERO
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Posted: 10/3/2015 12:14:07 PM EDT
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JUST TOPPED $600K FOR THE HERO If he builds a clock maybe 0bama will invite him to the White House. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 12:23:23 PM EDT
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While I agree with you the apparent fact that he didn't use the rifle is most important, in this case the semantics are hugely important as well. The term "automatic rifle" is specifically being used to scare the uninformed into thinking "machine gun" so they will throw their support behind new legislation further restricting "assault weapons". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I just saw on ABCNEWS, Good Morning America, the shooter had an, AUTOMATIC RIFLE, they stated it and had the words AUTOMATIC RIFLE, in bold large letters splashed on the TV Screen,
Dear ABC, this is your head, this is your ass, they are not interchangeable and learn some journalism skills before you report stupid shit to the sheeple. Micro rant done. Instead of getting angry over the semantics of automatic/semi-automatic, I'd focus on the information that suggests the rifle wasn't actually fired in the course of shooting. While I agree with you the apparent fact that he didn't use the rifle is most important, in this case the semantics are hugely important as well. The term "automatic rifle" is specifically being used to scare the uninformed into thinking "machine gun" so they will throw their support behind new legislation further restricting "assault weapons". And it happens every time there is an incident, like clockwork. |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 12:25:03 PM EDT
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They need to put fire extinguisher size tear gas bottles in each classroom for a last resort defense in case a gun man tries to enter, at least he will have to deal with a powerful stream of tear gas in his face before trying to enter. Make it federal law to have a bottle in every classroom for now. what do the students do when the shooter walks in with a gas mask on? Smack him in the grape with it. 
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Posted: 10/3/2015 12:39:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: They need to put fire extinguisher size tear gas bottles in each classroom for a last resort defense in case a gun man tries to enter, at least he will have to deal with a powerful stream of tear gas in his face before trying to enter. Make it federal law to have a bottle in every classroom for now. what do the students do when the shooter walks in with a gas mask on? The more deterrents the better. So far none have used a gas mask. The classroom doors should all be locked and the kids should have to use a pass to open the doors. Just make it harder for the gunmen to enter freely. Hey anything is better then nothing. |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 12:40:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't live there and I have no other information except what I am reading. How are you connected to the area? You seem to have considerable insight into the politics on campus. Did you attend college there? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: False. UCC does not have the legal authority to create such a policy. Once again, this has been posted several times, and I even posted the legal opinion from the state legislature's council that no school district or community college has the legal authority to stop CCW on their grounds or inside their buildings. If anyone was expelled for carrying their legally permitted handgun, the school should have been sued for violating their rights. Hell they didn't even have an armed security guard or two.....What does that say to you? It speaks volumes. I just posed the previous school president saying 'it was a no gun campus' and that they had no armed security. That there is a legal loophole of some kind in the State law that someone could sue on is irrelevant to the majority of people who don't want to make waves or get kicked out. Before this event I bet that if you surveyed the students and staff, that 90% would have said it was a gun free zone. The shooter probably thought the same. I am going to guess and say the school was trying to walk a fine line. They knew the state law but PUBLISHED their policy anyway. They may not have actively enforced it (in order to avoid the law suits you speak of) so it was a don't ask don't tell situation. The schools STATED policy was no guns. The perception to the majority of people was no guns. in effect it was a no guns (or 'few guns') situation" I don't live there and I have no other information except what I am reading. How are you connected to the area? You seem to have considerable insight into the politics on campus. Did you attend college there? |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 12:44:33 PM EDT
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The more deterrents the better. So far none have used a gas mask. The classroom doors should all be locked and the kids should have to use a pass to open the doors. Just make it harder for the gunmen to enter freely. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They need to put fire extinguisher size tear gas bottles in each classroom for a last resort defense in case a gun man tries to enter, at least he will have to deal with a powerful stream of tear gas in his face before trying to enter. Make it federal law to have a bottle in every classroom for now. what do the students do when the shooter walks in with a gas mask on? The more deterrents the better. So far none have used a gas mask. The classroom doors should all be locked and the kids should have to use a pass to open the doors. Just make it harder for the gunmen to enter freely.
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Posted: 10/3/2015 1:07:35 PM EDT
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I am not up to date on the 92 page thread, but was just reading the Mom stated her son had Aspergers, I AM NOT saying anything bad about people with Aspergers and yes I know some individuals with Aspergers, but there are clearly some mental health issues (duh) behind this shooting that the MSM seems to have (deliberately) missed, extra commas intentional.
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Posted: 10/3/2015 1:13:33 PM EDT
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Oregon, like Washington State, are soon going to be inhospitable RKBA gun zones. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You dudes in Oregon are soon gonna need a GoFundMe just for the legal fight. Not a bad idea, off to join http://www.ossa.org/ & http://www.oregonfirearms.org/ Hit em both. Skipped half this thread. Off to read the middle and to check my NRA membership. Oregon, like Washington State, are soon going to be inhospitable RKBA gun zones. That is a distinct possibility, however it is incumbent upon the gunowning community to support our friends and allies in other States in their time of need. |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 1:15:24 PM EDT
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I am not up to date on the 92 page thread, but was just reading the Mom stated her son had Aspergers, I AM NOT saying anything bad about people with Aspergers and yes I know some individuals with Aspergers, but there are clearly some mental health issues (duh) behind this shooting that the MSM seems to have (deliberately) missed, extra commas intentional. Scroll back a couple pages & read my comments on autism spectrum disorders being sought by parents and misapplied to individuals with other behavioral problems. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 1:18:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Me too and that was in Boot Camp in 95-96. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Gunman joined the US Army in 2008 but was discharged after 5 weeks of basic. curious what his platoon mates thought of him. Doubt they even remember him. I don't recall any of mine from Basic. I remember the batshit mental health seperatees from mine. 05. Me too and that was in Boot Camp in 95-96. |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 1:42:42 PM EDT
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The more deterrents the better. So far none have used a gas mask. The classroom doors should all be locked and the kids should have to use a pass to open the doors. Just make it harder for the gunmen to enter freely. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They need to put fire extinguisher size tear gas bottles in each classroom for a last resort defense in case a gun man tries to enter, at least he will have to deal with a powerful stream of tear gas in his face before trying to enter. Make it federal law to have a bottle in every classroom for now. what do the students do when the shooter walks in with a gas mask on? The more deterrents the better. So far none have used a gas mask. The classroom doors should all be locked and the kids should have to use a pass to open the doors. Just make it harder for the gunmen to enter freely. The Colorado theater shooter/nutjob was wearing gear to make himself look like a SWAT officer. A gas mask would be simple, compared to buying and wearing all that. The Virginia Tech shooter/nutjob was a student. The Oregon high school shooter/nutjob was a student. The Columbine bombers/shooters/nutjobs were students. The Arkansas (middle?) school shooters/nutjobs were students... Having a daughter currently in college and living on campus, I can tell you that all the students are familiar with what doors require a key card to open them, how to enter an alternate way that "is usually not locked during the day", and think nothing of propping doors open so that the group doesn't have to deal with pulling out their cards every time somebody needs to go through a door. |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 1:48:50 PM EDT
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Same here, 1987. Know his name. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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curious what his platoon mates thought of him. Doubt they even remember him. I don't recall any of mine from Basic. I remember the batshit mental health seperatees from mine. 05. Me too and that was in Boot Camp in 95-96. Guess during my time there never any crazies taken away |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 1:54:24 PM EDT
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The Boston bombers were random dudes too, until they were the Boston bombers. http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/boston-bombing-anniversary/russia-warned-u-s-about-tsarnaev-spelling-issue-let-him-n60836 Granted, the warnings normally come from a persons associations and travel. I don't think this dude was much more than a lonely basement dweller looking to be somebody. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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LOL at supposed conservative who hate Obama so much at they'll trust information put out by the guys who invented Obama playbook. We're fucked. What are you referring to? I skipped a few pages. Russkies claiming they knew the shooter was a risk and US wasn't interested in hearing it. Yeah because the Russian's would just happen to have info on some random dude
Some people will believe anything The Boston bombers were random dudes too, until they were the Boston bombers. http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/boston-bombing-anniversary/russia-warned-u-s-about-tsarnaev-spelling-issue-let-him-n60836 Granted, the warnings normally come from a persons associations and travel. I don't think this dude was much more than a lonely basement dweller looking to be somebody. That's what I meant by random dude. People going to hot beds of extremism tends to send up a flag. A nobody in there basement fantasizing about killing people remains a nobody until they actually do it. No one can see it coming. |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 2:05:33 PM EDT
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So we know:
- Nine murdered - Nine wounded; one of wounded fought back and deflected murderer from room with others who didn't fight back - One murderer, now dead by suicide (or suicide by cop) - Murderer was reclusive, unhappy with his life, apparently had preexisting issues with brain functionality, antireligious, from single parent family, still lived with parent, tried military but "administratively seperated" after five weeks - Murderer left "manifesto" detailing reasons for murders - Murderer took five handguns and one rifle to location of murders; used handguns, not rifle; seven other firearms found at murderer's residence - All firearms legally bought through dealer with murderer passing NICS checks - Murderer taunted victims before shooting them by demanding to know religious affiliation - Antigun political and media zealots in full dither, calling for everything from universal background checks to repeal of Second Amendment Cliff Notes version: Psychopath murders 9, wounds 9, dies as suicide. 60 million lawful gun owners blamed. That a decent summary? |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 2:06:51 PM EDT
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Scroll back a couple pages & read my comments on autism spectrum disorders being sought by parents and misapplied to individuals with other behavioral problems. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I am not up to date on the 92 page thread, but was just reading the Mom stated her son had Aspergers, I AM NOT saying anything bad about people with Aspergers and yes I know some individuals with Aspergers, but there are clearly some mental health issues (duh) behind this shooting that the MSM seems to have (deliberately) missed, extra commas intentional. Scroll back a couple pages & read my comments on autism spectrum disorders being sought by parents and misapplied to individuals with other behavioral problems. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile My adult stepson falls on the spectrum. We have him working with a therapist and long ago made the decision not to talk about guns around him. I carry concealed in the house and sneak them around him when he is around. Luckily he has never shown much interest in guns outside of video games but it is something I make a point of staying on top of. Intelligence mixed with an inability to connect emotionally can be a dangerous combination. Aspergers doesn't automatically make someone a threat but if they are mistreated, ignored, abused, etc it could easily spiral out of control. |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 2:08:47 PM EDT
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So we know: - Nine murdered - Nine wounded; one of wounded fought back and deflected murderer from room with others who didn't fight back - One murderer, now dead by suicide (or suicide by cop) - Murderer was reclusive, unhappy with his life, apparently had preexisting issues with brain functionality, antireligious, from single parent family, tried military but  "administratively seperated" after five weeks
- Murderer left "manifesto" detailing reasons for murders - Murderer took five handguns and one rifle to location of murders; used handguns, not rifle; seven other firearms found at murderer's residence - All firearms legally bought through dealer with murderer passing NICS checks - Murderer taunted victims before shooting them by demanding to know religious affiliation - Antigun political and media zealots in full dither, calling for everything from universal background checks to repeal of Second Amendment Cliff Notes version: Psychopath murders 9, wounds 9, dies as suicide. 60 million lawful gun owners blamed. That a decent summary? That's all folks. |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 2:09:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Colorado theater shooter/nutjob was wearing gear to make himself look like a SWAT officer. A gas mask would be simple, compared to buying and wearing all that. The Virginia Tech shooter/nutjob was a student. The Oregon high school shooter/nutjob was a student. The Columbine bombers/shooters/nutjobs were students. The Arkansas (middle?) school shooters/nutjobs were students... Having a daughter currently in college and living on campus, I can tell you that all the students are familiar with what doors require a key card to open them, how to enter an alternate way that "is usually not locked during the day", and think nothing of propping doors open so that the group doesn't have to deal with pulling out their cards every time somebody needs to go through a door. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The more deterrents the better. So far none have used a gas mask. The classroom doors should all be locked and the kids should have to use a pass to open the doors. Just make it harder for the gunmen to enter freely. The Colorado theater shooter/nutjob was wearing gear to make himself look like a SWAT officer. A gas mask would be simple, compared to buying and wearing all that. The Virginia Tech shooter/nutjob was a student. The Oregon high school shooter/nutjob was a student. The Columbine bombers/shooters/nutjobs were students. The Arkansas (middle?) school shooters/nutjobs were students... Having a daughter currently in college and living on campus, I can tell you that all the students are familiar with what doors require a key card to open them, how to enter an alternate way that "is usually not locked during the day", and think nothing of propping doors open so that the group doesn't have to deal with pulling out their cards every time somebody needs to go through a door. I design and build access control and video surveillance systems. There is technology that could be used to make sites safer, but it is expensive. Ideally you would have an automated gun shot detection system that is tied into a incident management system. System automatically alerts operator who then initiates a lockdown. It will alert the area of where the incident occurred on a map of the facility. All cards but law enforcement stop working. If the operator can detect the person doing the shooting they can have the system track that person as they move. All of this info can be transmitted to security/law enforcement. You don't stop the event, but you can massively curtail it and make the cops job a lot easier. |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 2:09:17 PM EDT
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Doubt they even remember him. I don't recall any of mine from Basic. I remember the batshit mental health seperatees from mine. 05. Me too and that was in Boot Camp in 95-96. Guess during my time there never any crazies taken away I went through basic in '91 and I don't remember any names. |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 2:10:46 PM EDT
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So we know: - Nine murdered - Nine wounded; one of wounded fought back and deflected murderer from room with others who didn't fight back - One murderer, now dead by suicide (or suicide by cop) - Murderer was reclusive, unhappy with his life, apparently had preexisting issues with brain functionality, antireligious, from single parent family, tried military but "administratively seperated" after five weeks
- Murderer left "manifesto" detailing reasons for murders - Murderer took five handguns and one rifle to location of murders; used handguns, not rifle; seven other firearms found at murderer's residence - All firearms legally bought through dealer with murderer passing NICS checks - Murderer taunted victims before shooting them by demanding to know religious affiliation - Antigun political and media zealots in full dither, calling for everything from universal background checks to repeal of Second Amendment Cliff Notes version: Psychopath murders 9, wounds 9, dies as suicide. 60 million lawful gun owners blamed. That a decent summary? That's all folks. Note: Smiley deleted after this person quoted my exsum. Insertion not intentional. |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 2:12:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So we know: - Nine murdered - Nine wounded; one of wounded fought back and deflected murderer from room with others who didn't fight back - One murderer, now dead by suicide (or suicide by cop) - Murderer was reclusive, unhappy with his life, apparently had preexisting issues with brain functionality, antireligious, from single parent family, still lived with parent, tried military but "administratively seperated" after five weeks - Murderer left "manifesto" detailing reasons for murders - Murderer took five handguns and one rifle to location of murders; used handguns, not rifle; seven other firearms found at murderer's residence - All firearms legally bought through dealer with murderer passing NICS checks - Murderer taunted victims before shooting them by demanding to know religious affiliation - Antigun political and media zealots in full dither, calling for everything from universal background checks to repeal of Second Amendment Cliff Notes version: Psychopath murders 9, wounds 9, dies as suicide. 60 million lawful gun owners blamed. That a decent summary? Chris Mintz, who gofundme is now up to $629,043 of 10K, Raised by 19,173 people in 1 day.  |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 2:13:53 PM EDT
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Not sure if this was covered but a coincidence (or the reason) that psycho killer picked school that was attended by Paris train hero?
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Posted: 10/3/2015 2:14:39 PM EDT
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Legalizing prostitution would reduce mass shootings (and suicide bombers in the ME) more than any gun control. The last shooter was gay male escort. 
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Posted: 10/3/2015 2:19:19 PM EDT
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/03/us-usa-shooting-oregon-idUSKCN0RV5EP20151003
The gunman slain by police after he killed his English professor and eight others at an Oregon college was once turned away from a firearms academy by an instructor who recalled finding him "weird" and "a little bit too anxious" for high-level weapons training. He sought to register for training in 2012 or 2013 at Seven 4 Para, a private self-defense and law enforcement training academy in Torrance, but Eloy Way, president and head instructor for the center, said he sent Harper-Mercer away. |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 2:24:46 PM EDT
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LOL at supposed conservative who hate Obama so much at they'll trust information put out by the guys who invented Obama playbook. We're fucked. What are you referring to? I skipped a few pages. Russkies claiming they knew the shooter was a risk and US wasn't interested in hearing it. Quoted:
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Yeah... why would the Russians have any clue this guy even existed let alone have him on any sort of list? Didn't the Russians warn the USA about the Boston Marathon bombers and we refused to act on it? Yes, which is why they're claiming that they *tried* to notify us on this one. They say the list was refused, so its not provable that they ever even tried to provide it. People on the left and right are always mad at the government after something like this, so this fosters additional anti government sentiment among both political parties. Plus it will get tweeted, re-tweeted, blogged about and covered in Huffo and Drudge - ensuring that its filed into peoples brains as fact and cached on the internet as reality. |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 2:35:11 PM EDT
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Has this been discussed yet
http://www.eutimes.net/2015/10/oregon-mass-shooter-on-terror-list-obama-refused-to-take-from-russia/ |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 2:41:24 PM EDT
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Has this been discussed yet http://www.eutimes.net/2015/10/oregon-mass-shooter-on-terror-list-obama-refused-to-take-from-russia/ Yep, and linky no bueno. |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 2:49:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/03/us-usa-shooting-oregon-idUSKCN0RV5EP20151003 The gunman slain by police after he killed his English professor and eight others at an Oregon college was once turned away from a firearms academy by an instructor who recalled finding him "weird" and "a little bit too anxious" for high-level weapons training. He sought to register for training in 2012 or 2013 at Seven 4 Para, a private self-defense and law enforcement training academy in Torrance, but Eloy Way, president and head instructor for the center, said he sent Harper-Mercer away. Huh, that is the first I have heard that he was a student there. Sounds like the guy was a lifelong foxtrot uniform. |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 2:55:20 PM EDT
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Huh, that is the first I have heard that he was a student there. Sounds like the guy was a lifelong foxtrot uniform. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/03/us-usa-shooting-oregon-idUSKCN0RV5EP20151003 The gunman slain by police after he killed his English professor and eight others at an Oregon college was once turned away from a firearms academy by an instructor who recalled finding him "weird" and "a little bit too anxious" for high-level weapons training. He sought to register for training in 2012 or 2013 at Seven 4 Para, a private self-defense and law enforcement training academy in Torrance, but Eloy Way, president and head instructor for the center, said he sent Harper-Mercer away. Huh, that is the first I have heard that he was a student there. Sounds like the guy was a lifelong foxtrot uniform. I don't think he was a student since they turned him away. 
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Posted: 10/3/2015 3:15:58 PM EDT
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/03/us-usa-shooting-oregon-idUSKCN0RV5EP20151003 The gunman slain by police after he killed his English professor and eight others at an Oregon college was once turned away from a firearms academy by an instructor who recalled finding him "weird" and "a little bit too anxious" for high-level weapons training. He sought to register for training in 2012 or 2013 at Seven 4 Para, a private self-defense and law enforcement training academy in Torrance, but Eloy Way, president and head instructor for the center, said he sent Harper-Mercer away. There was a private range that said the Colorado theater shooter applied for membership, but they thought he was a bit strange. |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 3:19:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't think he was a student since they turned him away. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/03/us-usa-shooting-oregon-idUSKCN0RV5EP20151003 The gunman slain by police after he killed his English professor and eight others at an Oregon college was once turned away from a firearms academy by an instructor who recalled finding him "weird" and "a little bit too anxious" for high-level weapons training. He sought to register for training in 2012 or 2013 at Seven 4 Para, a private self-defense and law enforcement training academy in Torrance, but Eloy Way, president and head instructor for the center, said he sent Harper-Mercer away. Huh, that is the first I have heard that he was a student there. Sounds like the guy was a lifelong foxtrot uniform. I don't think he was a student since they turned him away. I guess technically he is no longer enrolled in college. However, they will still try to collect the tuition, just watch. |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 3:19:35 PM EDT
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Sheriff Hanlin just announced the shooter's cause of death was suicide.
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Posted: 10/3/2015 3:19:41 PM EDT
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From Sheriff Hanlin: Cause of death of shooter, per Medical Examiner, was suicide.
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Posted: 10/3/2015 3:25:33 PM EDT
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Huh, that is the first I have heard that he was a student there. Sounds like the guy was a lifelong foxtrot uniform. I don't think he was a student since they turned him away. I guess technically he is no longer enrolled in college. However, they will still try to collect the tuition, just watch. ...and I just realized you were talking about his enrollment in the UCC, not the training....
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Posted: 10/3/2015 4:22:55 PM EDT
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This may have already been posted but here goes. http://mrconservative.com/2015/10/64892-breaking-new-details-emerge-oregon-shooter-likely-a-muslim/
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Posted: 10/3/2015 4:35:44 PM EDT
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Are they classifying this as a hate crime? Black guy kills 9 white people and no mention of race motive involved?
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Posted: 10/3/2015 4:36:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This may have already been posted but here goes. http://mrconservative.com/2015/10/64892-breaking-new-details-emerge-oregon-shooter-likely-a-muslim/ Quote HistoryQuoted: This may have already been posted but here goes. http://mrconservative.com/2015/10/64892-breaking-new-details-emerge-oregon-shooter-likely-a-muslim/ Harper-Mercer reportedly had a Myspace page with only two contacts on it. One of them was Mahmoud Ali Ehsani, a devout Muslim who boasts many violent terrorist images on his page. This basically confirms that the shooting was a Muslim hate crime against Christians. Survivors have said that the shooter barged into classrooms and asked individual students if they were Christians. Little bit of a leap. I suspect he would have been more likely to shout snackbars. I HAD a Muslim friend on facebook. She finally deleted me. |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 5:14:52 PM EDT
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have they announced the weapons used yet?
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Posted: 10/3/2015 5:15:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ruh-Roh... And damn if someone didn't call it last night right after his first rant, said this guy was mentally unstable himself, among other things. I took it as a joke or a simple jab, looks more and more like they were on the right track. And Mikhail86, looks like you might wanna get ready to carve another notch in your six-gun. ETA: Might as well make that two, the other being Beowulf-X. Never understood why he didn't make your "kill-list", you were instrumental in his demise lol. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I can't take it anymore, I have to speak up. You motherfuckers make me physically ill. <snip> Admins, you need to vet, you need to do your FUCKING job, you need to do something. You're embarrassing the entire firearms community by letting this fucking bullshit persist. Says the guy who re-registered 4 times after being locked for a nasty anti-semitic rant.  Ruh-Roh... And damn if someone didn't call it last night right after his first rant, said this guy was mentally unstable himself, among other things. I took it as a joke or a simple jab, looks more and more like they were on the right track. And Mikhail86, looks like you might wanna get ready to carve another notch in your six-gun. ETA: Might as well make that two, the other being Beowulf-X. Never understood why he didn't make your "kill-list", you were instrumental in his demise lol. I don't think he is banned, he took his ball and went home |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 5:23:03 PM EDT
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From Sheriff Hanlin: Cause of death of shooter, per Medical Examiner, was suicide. So how did that happen? Cops shot him, he doesnt die, but then puts the last one in his brain? Im suprised police actually entered the building without waiting 5 minutes after the shooting stopped. |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 5:25:08 PM EDT
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I am becoming convinced this wasn't a mass killing or school shooting. This was probably the first American Breslan.
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Posted: 10/3/2015 5:30:12 PM EDT
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Putin and the Russians have been dealing with radical Muslims for a long time in Chechnya. I'm sure they have an extensive terrorist watch list. Besides, the EU Times article points to the discussion early in this thread about the shooters profiles being updated after he was dead. |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 5:30:56 PM EDT
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I'm willing to bet any one who ever sat down and had a conversation with this knew he was nuts.
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Posted: 10/3/2015 5:35:43 PM EDT
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I am becoming convinced this wasn't a mass killing or school shooting. This was probably the first American Breslan. Pretty sure you meant Beslan, as in the site of the school massacre in Russia. I'm not convinced that is what happened in OR yet but haven't ruled it out either. |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 5:36:25 PM EDT
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So is the targeting/executing Christians thing 100% confirmed? I'm playing catch up a little here and missed the links. There was this liberal guy at my work today insisting that was false information and it was pissing me off.
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Posted: 10/3/2015 5:37:28 PM EDT
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I am becoming convinced this wasn't a mass killing or school shooting. This was probably the first American Breslan. With one murderer? |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 5:40:29 PM EDT
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I am becoming convinced this wasn't a mass killing or school shooting. This was probably the first American Breslan. With one murderer? Someone who went sudden jihadi syndrome and decided to take down a school? Sounds like Beslan to me. |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 5:45:05 PM EDT
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Are they classifying this as a hate crime? Black guy kills 9 white people and no mention of race motive involved? I hope that nasty bump on your head heals up. That was a bad fall you took there. It has clearly affected up your thinking.
Nothing to see here, move right along. He was a White guy. Look at what CNN did to his picture. Lightened it up. Changed profile of his nose and lips. Just like those early pictures of the WHITE Hispanic in Florida, that shot that poor Travon. 
Link to one of the mods favorite site. But worth reading. Found it on another website. http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/10/02/the-curious-case-of-oregon-shooter-chris-harper-mercer-a-social-media-profile-shaped-modified-and-deleted/ |
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Posted: 10/3/2015 5:45:34 PM EDT
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This may have already been posted but here goes. http://mrconservative.com/2015/10/64892-breaking-new-details-emerge-oregon-shooter-likely-a-muslim/ His online alias was ironcross45, ordered ISIS flags through the site ioffer. This is why the media has shut down this story, fucker was Muslim. |
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