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Posted: 8/2/2015 12:46:27 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/2/2015 12:51:31 PM EDT
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Chance said he wished the residents would have come to him with concerns first. "This video was never sent to me, It was just thrown on social media and then I started getting phone calls,” said Chance. "My door is always open. I will sit and talk to ya.”  |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 12:53:47 PM EDT
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It's a brave new world. Behave yourselves officers and you pick up that can.
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Posted: 8/2/2015 12:56:00 PM EDT
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If he is out of his jurisdiction (as he mentioned), what could he have done to the guy with the camera?
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Posted: 8/2/2015 1:03:07 PM EDT
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He should be starting unemployment next week. Hopefully the sherriff gets enough flak to fire him. Fuck that guy he is the epitome of what is wrong with law enforcement in this country.
Only 6 months as a deputy? He learns fast. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 1:09:47 PM EDT
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Hopefully he's unemployed soon.
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Posted: 8/2/2015 1:14:23 PM EDT
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lol. Screen name of that brave sheepdog?
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Posted: 8/2/2015 1:15:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He should be starting unemployment next week. Hopefully the sherriff gets enough flak to fire him. Fuck that guy he is the epitome of what is wrong with law enforcement in this country. Only 6 months as a deputy? He learns fast. And apparently he used to be a 'teacher.'  |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 1:17:08 PM EDT
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Only 6 months as a deputy? He learns fast. Reminds me of some of the ex mil guys we got right before I left. 6 months out of the academy and numerous substantiated discourtesy and IA excessive force complaints. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 1:20:16 PM EDT
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I sure hope he gets unemployed soon.......
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Posted: 8/2/2015 1:22:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If he is out of his jurisdiction (as he mentioned), what could he have done to the guy with the camera? Anything he fucking wanted to. Which is why the peasant used his brain and walked away. That cop needs a different job, he's going to snap one day and kill someone who didn't need killing. I've met a few of those, take away the badge and the gun and they're just another loudmouth bully who'll probably back down when confronted by another male (then go home and beat their wife or kids), with the badge and the gun they're scary motherfuckers. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 1:23:49 PM EDT
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Not surprising. Guys like this used to piss me off. Now they're just normal. Sad.
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Posted: 8/2/2015 1:25:53 PM EDT
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If he is out of his jurisdiction (as he mentioned), what could he have done to the guy with the camera? Nothing. You can't do anything to people filming you INSIDE your jurisdiction. Someone is filming every traffic stop, consensual encounter, walk into the Stop n' Rob to top off your coffee, etc. Anytime someone sees an officer in uniform, they start recording. You have to learn to live with that fact that you're always on camera. This guy hasn't grasped that concept yet. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 1:29:38 PM EDT
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Sprinkling an F bomb into every other word of your conversation usually doesn't go over well outside of the inner cities where they expect that kind of communication.
On a lighter note about the incident: “I was kinda blowing up on him, you know, and using profound language and stuff like that,” said Derek Vandolah, who lives at the residence where the situation unfolded." I have to wonder how profound the language really was. Maybe it was on the level of, oh, I dunno, profound like the Ten Commandments or a Martin Luther King or Abe Lincoln speech level of profoundness? |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 1:29:44 PM EDT
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I guess God and rednecks only know the intricacies of mediating redneck disputes and the amount of patience it takes to successfully do so.
But the dude just asked a question non-confrontationally ("just curious"), it looked like the other party in the dispute left already, and this contact was well on its way to being over. Guess the deputy ran out of patience. It happens, but it's not an excuse for this behavior. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 1:30:29 PM EDT
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didnt see nothing wrong. try to dictate the tone to the man and see where it gets you. Big effing deal he talked mean to him.
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Posted: 8/2/2015 1:32:32 PM EDT
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If he is out of his jurisdiction (as he mentioned), what could he have done to the guy with the camera? In a way, that would have been a better outcome than walking away. I'm sure his department's attorney would have been amused by the part when he tells the people he can't arrest the thief because it's not his jurisdiction, then arrests the guy for asking why he can't arrest the thief. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 1:33:19 PM EDT
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lol! Sheriff's office, rightly or wrongly suffers a public relations black eye and has a chance to for some degree of redemption on TV. As the Sheriff, I'll leave my suit and my class A on their hangers. I'll show up to the interview in a polo and blue jeans. Comb my hair and shave my face? Fuck that shit. Hey deputy, those cargo shorts and sports polo or good to go for the interview. Fucking dick sponges.
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Posted: 8/2/2015 1:33:29 PM EDT
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That asshole should be fired post haste.
He does not have the demeanor required for the job.. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 1:35:13 PM EDT
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Reminds me of some of the ex mil guys we got right before I left. 6 months out of the academy and numerous substantiated discourtesy and IA excessive force complaints. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Only 6 months as a deputy? He learns fast. Reminds me of some of the ex mil guys we got right before I left. 6 months out of the academy and numerous substantiated discourtesy and IA excessive force complaints. And they get extra exam points in some places. 
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Posted: 8/2/2015 1:35:41 PM EDT
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didnt see nothing wrong. try to dictate the tone to the man and see where it gets you. Big effing deal he talked mean to him. Yeah, actually it is a big fucking deal. This is not how a representative of the state talks to a citizen in a country that respects your liberty. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 1:36:24 PM EDT
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He's not sorry he said those things, he's feigning remorse since he got caught, because he knows he's socially expected to and it will negatively impact him if he doesn't.
Pretty textbook sociopath behavior. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 1:36:44 PM EDT
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He sounds remarkably like this guy!
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Posted: 8/2/2015 1:37:08 PM EDT
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Only 6 months as a deputy? He learns fast. Reminds me of some of the ex mil guys we got right before I left. 6 months out of the academy and numerous substantiated discourtesy and IA excessive force complaints. And they get extra exam points in some places. Some animals etc. etc.... |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 1:47:22 PM EDT
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Only 6 months as a deputy? He learns fast. Reminds me of some of the ex mil guys we got right before I left. 6 months out of the academy and numerous substantiated discourtesy and IA excessive force complaints. And they get extra exam points in some places. Some animals etc. etc.... You guys need to break ex mil down into two category's and this can apply to any branch, kind of. In the army its noncombat arms (not infantry) and combat arms (infantry). You'll probably find that noncombat arms are the guys that are your problems. Not always, usually. lol |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 1:48:04 PM EDT
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And apparently he used to be a 'teacher.'
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He should be starting unemployment next week. Hopefully the sherriff gets enough flak to fire him. Fuck that guy he is the epitome of what is wrong with law enforcement in this country. Only 6 months as a deputy? He learns fast. And apparently he used to be a 'teacher.'
well I think we can figure out why THAT job wasn't a good fit, if he can't deal with the public then those kids ate him alive. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 1:51:03 PM EDT
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You guys need to break ex mil down into two category's and this can apply to any branch, kind of. In the army its noncombat arms (not infantry) and combat arms (infantry). You'll probably find that noncombat arms are the guys that are your problems. Not always, usually. lol I found it best to avoid getting to know brand new guys who were already being investigated by IA.
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Posted: 8/2/2015 1:57:28 PM EDT
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Progressive discipline says that if he has nothing in his file he should catch a couple of days at the beach
You don't get fired for one improper demeanor complaint. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 2:00:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Chance said he wished the residents would have come to him with concerns first. "This video was never sent to me, It was just thrown on social media and then I started getting phone calls,” said Chance. "My door is always open. I will sit and talk to ya.”  |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 2:11:24 PM EDT
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Progressive discipline says that if he has nothing in his file he should catch a couple of days at the beach You don't get fired for one improper demeanor complaint. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I don't know how it works in Wichita, but in my area a Sheriff's Deputy can pretty much be fired at the discretion of the Sheriff. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 2:13:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And they get extra exam points in some places. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Only 6 months as a deputy? He learns fast. Reminds me of some of the ex mil guys we got right before I left. 6 months out of the academy and numerous substantiated discourtesy and IA excessive force complaints. And they get extra exam points in some places. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 2:24:31 PM EDT
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Nothing. You can't do anything to people filming you INSIDE your jurisdiction. Someone is filming every traffic stop, consensual encounter, walk into the Stop n' Rob to top off your coffee, etc. Anytime someone sees an officer in uniform, they start recording. You have to learn to live with that fact that you're always on camera. This guy hasn't grasped that concept yet. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If he is out of his jurisdiction (as he mentioned), what could he have done to the guy with the camera? Nothing. You can't do anything to people filming you INSIDE your jurisdiction. Someone is filming every traffic stop, consensual encounter, walk into the Stop n' Rob to top off your coffee, etc. Anytime someone sees an officer in uniform, they start recording. You have to learn to live with that fact that you're always on camera. This guy hasn't grasped that concept yet. Wish people who complain about cops filming inside their house got that. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 2:25:29 PM EDT
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You guys need to break ex mil down into two category's and this can apply to any branch, kind of. In the army its noncombat arms (not infantry) and combat arms (infantry). You'll probably find that noncombat arms are the guys that are your problems. Not always, usually. lol Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Only 6 months as a deputy? He learns fast. Reminds me of some of the ex mil guys we got right before I left. 6 months out of the academy and numerous substantiated discourtesy and IA excessive force complaints. And they get extra exam points in some places. Some animals etc. etc.... You guys need to break ex mil down into two category's and this can apply to any branch, kind of. In the army its noncombat arms (not infantry) and combat arms (infantry). You'll probably find that noncombat arms are the guys that are your problems. Not always, usually. lol All the ones that I knew that got jammed up were MPs or infantry. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 2:26:33 PM EDT
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Only 6 months as a deputy? He learns fast. Reminds me of some of the ex mil guys we got right before I left. 6 months out of the academy and numerous substantiated discourtesy and IA excessive force complaints. And they get extra exam points in some places. My dept has a special program just for MP's and AF Security Forces. 'tarded. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 2:27:30 PM EDT
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didnt see nothing wrong. try to dictate the tone to the man and see where it gets you. Big effing deal he talked mean to him. You can't possibly be serious 
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Posted: 8/2/2015 2:30:24 PM EDT
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Only 6 months as a deputy? He learns fast. Reminds me of some of the ex mil guys we got right before I left. 6 months out of the academy and numerous substantiated discourtesy and IA excessive force complaints. And they get extra exam points in some places. They send recruiters to bases all over the country. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 2:40:02 PM EDT
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Yeah, actually it is a big fucking deal. This is not how a representative of the state talks to a citizen in a country that respects your liberty. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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didnt see nothing wrong. try to dictate the tone to the man and see where it gets you. Big effing deal he talked mean to him. Yeah, actually it is a big fucking deal. This is not how a representative of the state talks to a citizen in a country that respects your liberty. Respect goes both ways Dan. If he didn't start with the attitude I bet he wouldn't have got the ass chewing. You just can't go all timid and let folks role over you on the street. His department probably has a policy against cursing so he will probably get disciplined for it. Getting fired for that would be crazy. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 2:44:21 PM EDT
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Chance said he wished the residents would have come to him with concerns first. "This video was never sent to me, It was just thrown on social media and then I started getting phone calls,” said Chance. "My door is always open. I will sit and talk to ya.” What planet does that dude live on? |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 2:58:40 PM EDT
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Chance said he wished the residents would have come to him with concerns first. "This video was never sent to me, It was just thrown on social media and then I started getting phone calls,” said Chance. "My door is always open. I will sit and talk to ya.” What planet does that dude live on? "This video was never sent to me, so I could 'lose' it." |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 3:05:29 PM EDT
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Respect goes both ways Dan. If he didn't start with the attitude I bet he wouldn't have got the ass chewing. You just can't go all timid and let folks role over you on the street. His department probably has a policy against cursing so he will probably get disciplined for it. Getting fired for that would be crazy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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didnt see nothing wrong. try to dictate the tone to the man and see where it gets you. Big effing deal he talked mean to him. Yeah, actually it is a big fucking deal. This is not how a representative of the state talks to a citizen in a country that respects your liberty. Respect goes both ways Dan. If he didn't start with the attitude I bet he wouldn't have got the ass chewing. You just can't go all timid and let folks role over you on the street. His department probably has a policy against cursing so he will probably get disciplined for it. Getting fired for that would be crazy. I watched the entire video. Did you? The guy filming the situation did not give the deputy "attitude". He simply asked why the women who apparently had admitted to taking something was being allowed to leave and got back "why the fuck am I talking with you?". The officer behaved unprofessionally. He clearly has some anger issues. A person like that should not be handed a gun and a badge and the authority of the state. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 3:11:03 PM EDT
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Progressive discipline says that if he has nothing in his file he should catch a couple of days at the beach You don't get fired for one improper demeanor complaint. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Well you should, and just the fact that some officers think they shouldn't shows an institutional problem. PLUS how many times has he done something like that without getting videoed? I suspect a Walmart greeter would get fired for taking an attitude like that with a customer and anyone can stop spending money at Walmart whenever they want. It's not like the guy getting berated was on an equal footing in that exchange. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 3:12:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI'd buy that man a beer anytime! He speaks the truth and let's them know just how cowardly they are to have Americans do their job for them. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 3:14:28 PM EDT
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"This video was never sent to me, so I could 'lose' it." Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Chance said he wished the residents would have come to him with concerns first. "This video was never sent to me, It was just thrown on social media and then I started getting phone calls,” said Chance. "My door is always open. I will sit and talk to ya.” What planet does that dude live on? "This video was never sent to me, so I could 'lose' it." And arrest the complainant in a disorderly conduct charge including a pretty stout beatdown. Fixt |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 3:24:04 PM EDT
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You guys need to break ex mil down into two category's and this can apply to any branch, kind of. In the army its noncombat arms (not infantry) and combat arms (infantry). You'll probably find that noncombat arms are the guys that are your problems. Not always, usually. lol That's a very profound statement since only about a quarter of the Army is combat arms.
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Posted: 8/2/2015 3:25:44 PM EDT
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I suspect a Walmart greeter would get fired for taking an attitude like that with a customer and anyone can stop spending money at Walmart whenever they want. |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 3:32:02 PM EDT
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Respect goes both ways Dan. If he didn't start with the attitude I bet he wouldn't have got the ass chewing. You just can't go all timid and let folks role over you on the street. His department probably has a policy against cursing so he will probably get disciplined for it. Getting fired for that would be crazy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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didnt see nothing wrong. try to dictate the tone to the man and see where it gets you. Big effing deal he talked mean to him. Yeah, actually it is a big fucking deal. This is not how a representative of the state talks to a citizen in a country that respects your liberty. Respect goes both ways Dan. If he didn't start with the attitude I bet he wouldn't have got the ass chewing. You just can't go all timid and let folks role over you on the street. His department probably has a policy against cursing so he will probably get disciplined for it. Getting fired for that would be crazy. Isn't "attitude" protected under the Constitution? |
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Posted: 8/2/2015 3:32:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI dunno, I feel motivated.
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Posted: 8/2/2015 3:36:59 PM EDT
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Hey everyone, welcome to Kansas.
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Posted: 8/2/2015 3:45:51 PM EDT
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Reminds me of some of the ex mil guys we got right before I left. 6 months out of the academy and numerous substantiated discourtesy and IA excessive force complaints. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Only 6 months as a deputy? He learns fast. Reminds me of some of the ex mil guys we got right before I left. 6 months out of the academy and numerous substantiated discourtesy and IA excessive force complaints. It takes awhile to get back to talking like a normal person after you get out of the military. 
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Posted: 8/2/2015 4:22:18 PM EDT
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I suspect a Walmart greeter would get fired for taking an attitude like that with a customer and anyone can stop spending money at Walmart whenever they want.
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Posted: 8/2/2015 7:59:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hey everyone, welcome to Kansas. Canada has its fair share of the "RESPEKT MUH AUTHOHRITIZ" type as well. |
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