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Posted: 2/28/2015 10:45:57 PM EDT
http://news.yahoo.com/big-bang-deflated-universe-may-had-no-beginning-140017504.html
If a new theory turns out to be true, the universe may not have started with a bang. View Quote In the new formulation, the universe was never a singularity, or an infinitely small and infinitely dense point of matter. In fact, the universe may have no beginning at all. "Our theory suggests that the age of the universe could be infinite," said study co-author Saurya Das, a theoretical physicist at the University of Lethbridge in Alberta, Canada. The new concept could also explain what dark matter — the mysterious, invisible substance that makes up most of the matter in the universe — is actually made of, Das added. |
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So its not disputing expansion, just disputing a singularity?
Meh, we'll see what predictions it makes and how it can explain things compared to the standard model. Don't read too much into a yahoo news headline, sensational science journalism at its worst. |
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The arrogance of man to think that he actually knows anything at all other than that he is wearing pants...is superbly astounding. |
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We did this one already. As usual the claims made by articles aren't the same as in the papers.
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Quoted: So never at any point try? I hate posts like this. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The arrogance of man to think that he actually knows anything at all other than that he is wearing pants...is superbly astounding. So never at any point try? I hate posts like this. He didn't say that. His point is that you shouldn't be overly convinced of your own intellect. |
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Every scientific theory about the beginning of the universe is just that, a theory, nothing more, nothing less.
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Eh, the thing is either way the universe is completely unlike anything we are used to dealing with. If there is an edge to the universe, than what is beyond that edge?
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So its not disputing expansion, just disputing a singularity? Meh, we'll see what predictions it makes and how it can explain things compared to the standard model. Don't read too much into a yahoo news headline, sensational science journalism at its worst. View Quote We've had what, 80 years to determine something billions of years old is expanding? With light that takes millions of years to reach our primitive viewing devices? WE don't know shit. WE just have a lot of guesses. I.E. global climate change, and that is SO very recent, and ALL bunk. |
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We've had what, 80 years to determine something billions of years old is expanding? With light that takes millions of years to reach our primitive viewing devices? WE don't know shit. WE just have a lot of guesses. I.E. global climate change, and that is SO very recent, and ALL bunk. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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So its not disputing expansion, just disputing a singularity? Meh, we'll see what predictions it makes and how it can explain things compared to the standard model. Don't read too much into a yahoo news headline, sensational science journalism at its worst. We've had what, 80 years to determine something billions of years old is expanding? With light that takes millions of years to reach our primitive viewing devices? WE don't know shit. WE just have a lot of guesses. I.E. global climate change, and that is SO very recent, and ALL bunk. That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. |
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So no gib gnab? Man, thats fucking depressing, I was feeling a bit peckish.
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I saw an article that talked about a theory that the universe was one huge space-time continuum loop...no beginning, no end. Didn't really understand it all but the graphics were cool.
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So as things move further apart the get closer?
What's going to be cool is when they discover we are part of a multiverse |
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Our twin universe. Everything looks the same except They are evil And they all wear cowboy hats. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Eh, the thing is either way the universe is completely unlike anything we are used to dealing with. If there is an edge to the universe, than what is beyond that edge? Our twin universe. Everything looks the same except They are evil And they all wear cowboy hats. I hate alternative universe Bender! Of course, he is the one that is NOT Evil! |
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There was some philosophy argument that went, in effect: if the universe has no beginning, then there cannot be a present. I.e., if you have to pass an infinite number of points to get to the point we're on now, you're never going t reach the point we're on now. So, given that the present does exist, there must have been a beginning at some point.
It seemed no more ridiculous an argument than any of the "are we living in a simulation" or "multiple universe interpretation of quantum mechanics" philosophy arguments. |
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Ok get ready to have your minds blown. I know the answer to this one and you heard it here first.
There's no beginning, there's no end, there's only the now! |
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And just maybe the better part of wisdom is not being content with a dull complacent state of stagnant ignorance. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The only true wisdom is knowing that you know nothing. And just maybe the better part of wisdom is not being content with a dull complacent state of stagnant ignorance. But what if the only action you're capable of taking to achieve understanding, given your (our) feeble knowledge, is the intellectual equivalent of eating paste? |
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... somewhere in the depths of my cerebellum, I've always considered this notion
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I've kept this a secret long enough... Guys, it's me... I created the universe. You're welcome
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Wouldn't it be ironic if we've been calling God "dark matter" this entire time?
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Yeah we did this one, although the other thread title was so full of derp it really brought out the crazies.
As I currently understand this all it does is solve a few mathematical problems at once, it doesn't really change the model. If it's true there was no singularity though that means our information horizon may be extended farther than we thought possible, which is interesting. I like this theory a lot because I've never liked the dark matter/energy hypothesis and this does away with them entirely. |
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there's a theory that states if we ever figure out the universe, it will be replaced by something even more bizarre.
there's another theory that states this has happened, more than once. |
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I never bought into the it all came from nothing " big bang" theory anyways. Way to much matter out there to have all came from nothing.
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We will never know, that's why they are theories. Still fun to think about of course.
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Quoted: You guys with your "Matter" crack me up. Matter is really the simple part of the problem. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I never bought into the it all came from nothing " big bang" theory anyways. Way to much matter out there to have all came from nothing. You guys with your "Matter" crack me up. Matter is really the simple part of the problem. What about all that void or space? And what's on the other side of it, far out man . Seriously, the idea that the universe is 9 billion light years across is bedazzling. |
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What about all that void or space? And what's on the other side of it, far out man . Seriously, the idea that the universe is 9 billion light years across is bedazzling. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I never bought into the it all came from nothing " big bang" theory anyways. Way to much matter out there to have all came from nothing. You guys with your "Matter" crack me up. Matter is really the simple part of the problem. What about all that void or space? And what's on the other side of it, far out man . Seriously, the idea that the universe is 9 billion light years across is bedazzling. ...and what's on the other side of that? |
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