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Posted: 2/28/2015 10:45:57 PM EDT
http://news.yahoo.com/big-bang-deflated-universe-may-had-no-beginning-140017504.html





If a new theory turns out to be true, the universe may not have started with a bang.






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In the new
formulation, the universe was never a singularity, or an infinitely
small and infinitely dense point of matter. In fact, the universe may
have no beginning at all.



"Our theory suggests that the age of the universe could be infinite,"
said study co-author Saurya Das, a theoretical physicist at the
University of Lethbridge in Alberta, Canada.


The new concept could also explain what dark matter — the mysterious,
invisible substance that makes up most of the matter in the universe —
is actually made of, Das added.





Link Posted: 2/28/2015 10:50:39 PM EDT
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I Am
Link Posted: 2/28/2015 10:52:14 PM EDT
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So its not disputing expansion, just disputing a singularity?





Meh, we'll see what predictions it makes and how it can explain things compared to the standard model.



Don't read too much into a yahoo news headline, sensational science journalism at its worst.




 
Link Posted: 2/28/2015 11:59:07 PM EDT
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The arrogance of man to think that he actually knows anything at all other than that he is wearing pants...is superbly astounding.



Link Posted: 3/1/2015 12:04:55 AM EDT
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The arrogance of man to think that he actually knows anything at all other than that he is wearing pants...is superbly astounding.



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So never at any point try?
I hate posts like this.
Link Posted: 3/1/2015 12:06:29 AM EDT
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It's only a model.
Link Posted: 3/1/2015 12:06:35 AM EDT
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We did this one already. As usual the claims made by articles aren't the same as in the papers.
Link Posted: 3/1/2015 12:07:02 AM EDT
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So never at any point try?

I hate posts like this.
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The arrogance of man to think that he actually knows anything at all other than that he is wearing pants...is superbly astounding.




So never at any point try?

I hate posts like this.


He didn't say that.



His point is that you shouldn't be overly convinced of your own intellect.



 
Link Posted: 3/1/2015 12:07:25 AM EDT
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Every scientific theory about the beginning of the universe is just that, a theory, nothing more, nothing less.
Link Posted: 3/1/2015 12:08:17 AM EDT
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Eh, the thing is either way the universe is completely unlike anything we are used to dealing with.  If there is an edge to the universe, than what is beyond that edge?
Link Posted: 3/1/2015 12:10:00 AM EDT
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...


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all of this has happened before and all of this will happen again
Link Posted: 3/1/2015 12:11:12 AM EDT
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I claim Penny.
Link Posted: 3/1/2015 12:13:50 AM EDT
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But we cant dare question global warming,
Link Posted: 3/1/2015 12:18:36 AM EDT
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Yeah man how dare we try to better understand the world around us.





 
Link Posted: 3/1/2015 12:19:28 AM EDT
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So its not disputing expansion, just disputing a singularity?

Meh, we'll see what predictions it makes and how it can explain things compared to the standard model.

Don't read too much into a yahoo news headline, sensational science journalism at its worst.
 
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We've had what, 80 years to determine something billions of years old is expanding? With light that takes millions of years

to reach our primitive viewing devices?

WE don't know shit. WE just have a lot of guesses. I.E. global climate change, and that

is SO very recent, and ALL bunk.
Link Posted: 3/1/2015 12:23:49 AM EDT
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The only true wisdom is knowing that you know nothing.
Link Posted: 3/1/2015 12:28:04 AM EDT
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We've had what, 80 years to determine something billions of years old is expanding? With light that takes millions of years

to reach our primitive viewing devices?

WE don't know shit. WE just have a lot of guesses. I.E. global climate change, and that

is SO very recent, and ALL bunk.
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So its not disputing expansion, just disputing a singularity?

Meh, we'll see what predictions it makes and how it can explain things compared to the standard model.

Don't read too much into a yahoo news headline, sensational science journalism at its worst.
 


We've had what, 80 years to determine something billions of years old is expanding? With light that takes millions of years

to reach our primitive viewing devices?

WE don't know shit. WE just have a lot of guesses. I.E. global climate change, and that

is SO very recent, and ALL bunk.


That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.
Link Posted: 3/1/2015 12:28:57 AM EDT
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And just maybe the better part of wisdom is not being content with a dull complacent state of stagnant ignorance.
Link Posted: 3/1/2015 12:29:55 AM EDT
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So no gib gnab? Man, thats fucking depressing, I was feeling a bit peckish.  

Link Posted: 3/1/2015 12:30:22 AM EDT
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I saw an article that talked about a theory that the universe was one huge space-time continuum loop...no beginning, no end.  Didn't really understand it all but the graphics were cool.
Link Posted: 3/1/2015 12:40:29 AM EDT
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fpni
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Our twin universe.  Everything looks the same except
They are evil
And they all wear cowboy hats.
Link Posted: 3/1/2015 12:42:47 AM EDT
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So as things move further apart the get closer?

What's going to be cool is when they discover we are part of a multiverse
Link Posted: 3/1/2015 12:46:01 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/1/2015 12:47:34 AM EDT
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FPNI. Funny how science is always playing catchup.
Link Posted: 3/1/2015 12:48:36 AM EDT
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Demons

And bigfeet

And dragons, over there be dragons.
Link Posted: 3/1/2015 12:52:11 AM EDT
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There was some philosophy argument that went, in effect: if the universe has no beginning, then there cannot be a present. I.e., if you have to pass an infinite number of points to get to the point we're on now, you're never going t reach the point we're on now. So, given that the present does exist, there must have been a beginning at some point.
It seemed no more ridiculous an argument than any of the "are we living in a simulation" or "multiple universe interpretation of quantum mechanics" philosophy arguments.
Link Posted: 3/1/2015 12:52:34 AM EDT
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Man does not live by cargo pants alone...
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Link Posted: 3/1/2015 1:12:13 AM EDT
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In the Beginning God Created the Heavens and the Earth.



Thank you God!
Link Posted: 3/1/2015 1:13:22 AM EDT
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Ok get ready to have your minds blown. I know the answer to this one and you heard it here first.

There's no beginning, there's no end, there's only the now!
Link Posted: 3/1/2015 1:14:31 AM EDT
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It's full of stars!
Link Posted: 3/1/2015 1:18:04 AM EDT
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We just did this one, didn't we?
Link Posted: 3/1/2015 1:22:56 AM EDT
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And just maybe the better part of wisdom is not being content with a dull complacent state of stagnant ignorance.
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The only true wisdom is knowing that you know nothing.

And just maybe the better part of wisdom is not being content with a dull complacent state of stagnant ignorance.


But what if the only action you're capable of taking to achieve understanding, given your (our) feeble knowledge, is the intellectual equivalent of eating paste?
Link Posted: 3/1/2015 1:33:04 AM EDT
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Olyshooter,

I see what you did there.
Link Posted: 3/1/2015 1:38:17 AM EDT
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I still believe in the Big Bang
Link Posted: 3/1/2015 1:40:31 AM EDT
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But what if the only action you're capable of taking to achieve understanding, given your (our) feeble knowledge, is the intellectual equivalent of eating paste?
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The only true wisdom is knowing that you know nothing.

And just maybe the better part of wisdom is not being content with a dull complacent state of stagnant ignorance.


But what if the only action you're capable of taking to achieve understanding, given your (our) feeble knowledge, is the intellectual equivalent of eating paste?


then ....


Link Posted: 3/1/2015 1:42:58 AM EDT
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... somewhere in the depths of my cerebellum, I've always considered this notion
Link Posted: 3/1/2015 1:43:33 AM EDT
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I've kept this a secret long enough... Guys, it's me... I created the universe. You're welcome


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Link Posted: 3/1/2015 1:44:51 AM EDT
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Wouldn't it be ironic if we've been calling God "dark matter" this entire time?
Link Posted: 3/1/2015 1:46:03 AM EDT
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Yeah we did this one, although the other thread title was so full of derp it really brought out the crazies.

As I currently understand this all it does is solve a few mathematical problems at once, it doesn't really change the model.

If it's true there was no singularity though that means our information horizon may be extended farther than we thought possible, which is interesting.

I like this theory a lot because I've never liked the dark matter/energy hypothesis and this does away with them entirely.
Link Posted: 3/1/2015 1:46:16 AM EDT
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Time is a flat circle
Link Posted: 3/1/2015 1:55:31 AM EDT
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Olyshooter,



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I anticipated this respond from you Dave

 
Link Posted: 3/1/2015 1:58:56 AM EDT
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there's a theory that states if we ever figure out the universe, it will be replaced by something even more bizarre.



there's another theory that states this has happened, more than once.
Link Posted: 3/1/2015 2:01:17 AM EDT
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I never bought into the it all came from nothing " big bang" theory anyways. Way to much matter out there to have all came from nothing.
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I've kept this a secret long enough... Guys, it's me... I created the universe. You're welcome





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That means you also created liberals.  Rot in hell you sum-bitch motha fucka.

 
Link Posted: 3/1/2015 2:03:27 AM EDT
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We will never know, that's why they are theories. Still fun to think about of course.
Link Posted: 3/1/2015 2:03:52 AM EDT
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I never bought into the it all came from nothing " big bang" theory anyways. Way to much matter out there to have all came from nothing.
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You guys with your "Matter" crack me up.

Matter is really the simple part of the problem.
Link Posted: 3/1/2015 2:09:05 AM EDT
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You guys with your "Matter" crack me up.



Matter is really the simple part of the problem.

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I never bought into the it all came from nothing " big bang" theory anyways. Way to much matter out there to have all came from nothing.




You guys with your "Matter" crack me up.



Matter is really the simple part of the problem.





 
What about all that void or space? And what's on the other side of it, far out man . Seriously, the idea that the universe is 9 billion light years across is bedazzling.
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  What about all that void or space? And what's on the other side of it, far out man . Seriously, the idea that the universe is 9 billion light years across is bedazzling.
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I never bought into the it all came from nothing " big bang" theory anyways. Way to much matter out there to have all came from nothing.


You guys with your "Matter" crack me up.

Matter is really the simple part of the problem.

  What about all that void or space? And what's on the other side of it, far out man . Seriously, the idea that the universe is 9 billion light years across is bedazzling.


...and what's on the other side of that?
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