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Link Posted: 5/5/2015 11:03:10 PM EDT
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Question for the book readers:

Would you have a problem with this season if you hadn't already read the books?  I haven't read them and I am enjoying this season as much as the previous ones.  I'll go back and read the books when (if) the fat man finishes them.
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I often wonder if people will go back and read the books if / when HBO bypasses the current publication timeline, even though they know how the main plot plays out.  If sales of the final books do take a hit, I'm sure the series has significantly increased overall sales and GRRM and Bantam Books will still be laughing all the way to the bank.
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Hmm. Some things I like (Dany's sped up timeline).

 



But the whole thing with Selmy pisses me off. Everyone in all of Westeros regaled tales of Ser Berristan being one of the mightiest Warriors to lift a sword. I understand he was aged, but even Jaimie Lannister didn't want to face the guy (when he had both hands).







I'm hoping they do something great for Arya's story and although Sansa's storyline is completely different I like the way it's going.
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Nope, nothing creepy about that. Nothing creepy at all.

 
Link Posted: 5/5/2015 11:49:15 PM EDT
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I have no problem with this season, and I'm glad they're changing some of the stuff up. As good as the first 3 books were, books 4 and 5 were mostly filler with a few good points hidden within.

 
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I have no problem with this season, and I'm glad they're changing some of the stuff up. As good as the first 3 books were, books 4 and 5 were mostly filler with a few good points hidden within.

 
They have diverged enough to be separate, but related stories. Like the shadows of Amber in Zelazny's books. It's kind of entertaining to participate in this thread and the book thread separately.

 





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Littlefinger in the books was also seen as a nice guy with no ambition and regarded as trustworthy by most of the other characters. It isn't even obvious to the book readers what he wants.

Littlefinger in the show is radically different. Obviously slithering around like a snake, and his motives are clear to just about everyone.
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i'm going to disagree there.  in the books, LF is flat disregarded by most of the nobility--he's a nobody, except insofar as he can act as a procurer for them.  and since we only see him through the eyes of the nobility, it's not a surprise that he isn't discussed more.  instead, we have to piece his character together from other people's perceptions.  thus he's a wild card, with uncertain motivations.  

OTOH, the series shows him from a 3rd person perspective, so his motives are very clear to us, the viewer.  

so i'd say that the character hasn't changed much--it's the storytelling that has made him into a more obvious player.
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i'm going to disagree there.  in the books, LF is flat disregarded by most of the nobility--he's a nobody, except insofar as he can act as a procurer for them.  and since we only see him through the eyes of the nobility, it's not a surprise that he isn't discussed more.  instead, we have to piece his character together from other people's perceptions.  thus he's a wild card, with uncertain motivations.  



OTOH, the series shows him from a 3rd person perspective, so his motives are very clear to us, the viewer.  



so i'd say that the character hasn't changed much--it's the storytelling that has made him into a more obvious player.
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Littlefinger in the books was also seen as a nice guy with no ambition and regarded as trustworthy by most of the other characters. It isn't even obvious to the book readers what he wants.



Littlefinger in the show is radically different. Obviously slithering around like a snake, and his motives are clear to just about everyone.




i'm going to disagree there.  in the books, LF is flat disregarded by most of the nobility--he's a nobody, except insofar as he can act as a procurer for them.  and since we only see him through the eyes of the nobility, it's not a surprise that he isn't discussed more.  instead, we have to piece his character together from other people's perceptions.  thus he's a wild card, with uncertain motivations.  



OTOH, the series shows him from a 3rd person perspective, so his motives are very clear to us, the viewer.  



so i'd say that the character hasn't changed much--it's the storytelling that has made him into a more obvious player.
I have to say that Littlefinger from the show is exactly as I pictured him from the books.  



 
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Littlefinger in the books was also seen as a nice guy with no ambition and regarded as trustworthy by most of the other characters. It isn't even obvious to the book readers what he wants.

Littlefinger in the show is radically different. Obviously slithering around like a snake, and his motives are clear to just about everyone.


i'm going to disagree there.  in the books, LF is flat disregarded by most of the nobility--he's a nobody, except insofar as he can act as a procurer for them.  and since we only see him through the eyes of the nobility, it's not a surprise that he isn't discussed more.  instead, we have to piece his character together from other people's perceptions.  thus he's a wild card, with uncertain motivations.  

OTOH, the series shows him from a 3rd person perspective, so his motives are very clear to us, the viewer.  

so i'd say that the character hasn't changed much--it's the storytelling that has made him into a more obvious player.
I have to say that Littlefinger from the show is exactly as I pictured him from the books.  
 


i agree completely--IMO, he is one of the few perfect casting calls, and one of the best character adaptations to the screen.  even at first, when i hated the show for being so at odds with my visualization of the story, i noted LF as pitch-perfect.
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Hmm. Some things I like (Dany's sped up timeline).    



But the whole thing with Selmy pisses me off. Everyone in all of Westeros regaled tales of Ser Berristan being one of the mightiest Warriors to lift a sword. I understand he was aged, but even Jaimie Lannister didn't want to face the guy (when he had both hands).
I'm hoping they do something great for Arya's story and although Sansa's storyline is completely different I like the way it's going.

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Would you have a problem with this season if you hadn't already read the books?  I haven't read them and I am enjoying this season as much as the previous ones.  I'll go back and read the books when (if) the fat man finishes them.

Hmm. Some things I like (Dany's sped up timeline).    



But the whole thing with Selmy pisses me off. Everyone in all of Westeros regaled tales of Ser Berristan being one of the mightiest Warriors to lift a sword. I understand he was aged, but even Jaimie Lannister didn't want to face the guy (when he had both hands).
I'm hoping they do something great for Arya's story and although Sansa's storyline is completely different I like the way it's going.





 
I hear what you're saying about Selmy, but even though he went down, he did take on a whole lot of armed guys in a tight space.  He was actually fucking them up until he was overwhelmed.  He's also old as hell at that point.  I'd have liked to see him go down in a more honorable way against more worthy opponents, but it does seem more realistic that he went out the way he did.  I think it was just a case of superior numbers trumped superior skill.



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  I hear what you're saying about Selmy, but even though he went down, he did take on a whole lot of armed guys in a tight space.  He was actually fucking them up until he was overwhelmed.  He's also old as hell at that point.  I'd have liked to see him go down in a more honorable way against more worthy opponents, but it does seem more realistic that he went out the way he did.  I think it was just a case of superior numbers trumped superior skill.





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Would you have a problem with this season if you hadn't already read the books?  I haven't read them and I am enjoying this season as much as the previous ones.  I'll go back and read the books when (if) the fat man finishes them.

Hmm. Some things I like (Dany's sped up timeline).    



But the whole thing with Selmy pisses me off. Everyone in all of Westeros regaled tales of Ser Berristan being one of the mightiest Warriors to lift a sword. I understand he was aged, but even Jaimie Lannister didn't want to face the guy (when he had both hands).
I'm hoping they do something great for Arya's story and although Sansa's storyline is completely different I like the way it's going.



  I hear what you're saying about Selmy, but even though he went down, he did take on a whole lot of armed guys in a tight space.  He was actually fucking them up until he was overwhelmed.  He's also old as hell at that point.  I'd have liked to see him go down in a more honorable way against more worthy opponents, but it does seem more realistic that he went out the way he did.  I think it was just a case of superior numbers trumped superior skill.





Which makes perfect sense but we don't want sense

 



We want crazy big fight scenes between two insanely big presences. (Like Viper v. Mountain)
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  I hear what you're saying about Selmy, but even though he went down, he did take on a whole lot of armed guys in a tight space.  He was actually fucking them up until he was overwhelmed.  He's also old as hell at that point.  I'd have liked to see him go down in a more honorable way against more worthy opponents, but it does seem more realistic that he went out the way he did.  I think it was just a case of superior numbers trumped superior skill.

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Would you have a problem with this season if you hadn't already read the books?  I haven't read them and I am enjoying this season as much as the previous ones.  I'll go back and read the books when (if) the fat man finishes them.

Hmm. Some things I like (Dany's sped up timeline).    



But the whole thing with Selmy pisses me off. Everyone in all of Westeros regaled tales of Ser Berristan being one of the mightiest Warriors to lift a sword. I understand he was aged, but even Jaimie Lannister didn't want to face the guy (when he had both hands).



I'm hoping they do something great for Arya's story and although Sansa's storyline is completely different I like the way it's going.



  I hear what you're saying about Selmy, but even though he went down, he did take on a whole lot of armed guys in a tight space.  He was actually fucking them up until he was overwhelmed.  He's also old as hell at that point.  I'd have liked to see him go down in a more honorable way against more worthy opponents, but it does seem more realistic that he went out the way he did.  I think it was just a case of superior numbers trumped superior skill.





 
Also this was not the usual Sons of the Harpy attack like cutting a guy's throat in a whorehouse. They seemed to have set up a larger and more coordinated ambush, hoping to take out a patrol of Unsullied who were on duty and armed. So you could imagine that some of the guys in the masks were skilled, maybe out of work pit fighters.
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  I hear what you're saying about Selmy, but even though he went down, he did take on a whole lot of armed guys in a tight space.  He was actually fucking them up until he was overwhelmed. He's also old as hell at that point.  I'd have liked to see him go down in a more honorable way against more worthy opponents, but it does seem more realistic that he went out the way he did.  I think it was just a case of superior numbers trumped superior skill.


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Would you have a problem with this season if you hadn't already read the books?  I haven't read them and I am enjoying this season as much as the previous ones.  I'll go back and read the books when (if) the fat man finishes them.
Hmm. Some things I like (Dany's sped up timeline).    

But the whole thing with Selmy pisses me off. Everyone in all of Westeros regaled tales of Ser Berristan being one of the mightiest Warriors to lift a sword. I understand he was aged, but even Jaimie Lannister didn't want to face the guy (when he had both hands).




I'm hoping they do something great for Arya's story and although Sansa's storyline is completely different I like the way it's going.

  I hear what you're saying about Selmy, but even though he went down, he did take on a whole lot of armed guys in a tight space.  He was actually fucking them up until he was overwhelmed. He's also old as hell at that point.  I'd have liked to see him go down in a more honorable way against more worthy opponents, but it does seem more realistic that he went out the way he did.  I think it was just a case of superior numbers trumped superior skill.




I hate to even utter this phrase, but in the books he is fighting pit fighters while being old as hell, and whooping ass at it. I will concede the superior numbers aspect though, there were pretty much him and grey worm and about 5 or 6 SotH.
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  Also this was not the usual Sons of the Harpy attack like cutting a guy's throat in a whorehouse. They seemed to have set up a larger and more coordinated ambush, hoping to take out a patrol of Unsullied who were on duty and armed. So you could imagine that some of the guys in the masks were skilled, maybe out of work pit fighters.
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Would you have a problem with this season if you hadn't already read the books?  I haven't read them and I am enjoying this season as much as the previous ones.  I'll go back and read the books when (if) the fat man finishes them.
Hmm. Some things I like (Dany's sped up timeline).    

But the whole thing with Selmy pisses me off. Everyone in all of Westeros regaled tales of Ser Berristan being one of the mightiest Warriors to lift a sword. I understand he was aged, but even Jaimie Lannister didn't want to face the guy (when he had both hands).

I'm hoping they do something great for Arya's story and although Sansa's storyline is completely different I like the way it's going.

  I hear what you're saying about Selmy, but even though he went down, he did take on a whole lot of armed guys in a tight space.  He was actually fucking them up until he was overwhelmed.  He's also old as hell at that point.  I'd have liked to see him go down in a more honorable way against more worthy opponents, but it does seem more realistic that he went out the way he did.  I think it was just a case of superior numbers trumped superior skill.

  Also this was not the usual Sons of the Harpy attack like cutting a guy's throat in a whorehouse. They seemed to have set up a larger and more coordinated ambush, hoping to take out a patrol of Unsullied who were on duty and armed. So you could imagine that some of the guys in the masks were skilled, maybe out of work pit fighters.


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Shit happens in battle, that's how I saw it.  We've lost a lot of far better warriors in the past 13+ years than the shitheads they were fighting.  But guess what, even the best of the best can fall to an unlucky event.
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And when you're fighting that many guys, one of them only has to get lucky once, while you must dodge, deflect, etc every blow they throw at you.

 
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Plus, the battle at the end of ADWD specifically mentions that Barristan was wearing full armor and the pit fighter had no idea how to fight against full armor.  Pit fighters, of course, being trained to slash to draw lots of blood for the crowd, while armor requires a totally different mindset and weapon set.  

 
Link Posted: 5/7/2015 9:49:42 AM EDT
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While I haven't read the books, from what I understand the show writers have the overall picture. So even though they are going to jump past the books, they know where it is going. In that context the changes they are making may simply be to make the story more suited to the screen, while headed to the same point.
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Some minor spoilers here, preview for the next episode:
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While I haven't read the books, from what I understand the show writers have the overall picture. So even though they are going to jump past the books, they know where it is going. In that context the changes they are making may simply be to make the story more suited to the screen, while headed to the same point.
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I think the biggest problem going forward will be the dialogue.  90% of the most memorable lines come from the books.  Last weeks "new" stuff was wooden and boring.  Especially the Sand Snakes stuff.  



 
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I can't wait for June/July when they release it on disc, so I can binge watch the complete season. Don't want to watch any episode until then
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Why? It's not like anybody's gonna be busy watching the Canadiens play. Goddam it, 1 second to go.

 
Link Posted: 5/7/2015 8:26:06 PM EDT
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I wonder if this will top the Joffrey/Cersei/Margaery/Loras dinner for "most awkward family meal."




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I wonder if this will top the Joffrey/Cersei/Margaery/Loras dinner for "most awkward family meal."


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Damn, if she doesn't look more and more like Cat every time I see her.

Same hairstyle, same clothing type, same frown.

Sansa is all grown up.
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Damn, if she doesn't look more and more like Cat every time I see her.



Same hairstyle, same clothing type, same frown.



Sansa is all grown up.
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Damn, if she doesn't look more and more like Cat every time I see her.



Same hairstyle, same clothing type, same frown.



Sansa is all grown up.




 
You mean a bitter twat who will end up fucking up things for everyone because she has the IQ of a horseshoe and the foresight of a democratic city councilman?  
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Damn, if she doesn't look more and more like Cat every time I see her.

Same hairstyle, same clothing type, same frown.

Sansa is all grown up.

  You mean a bitter twat who will end up fucking up things for everyone because she has the IQ of a horseshoe and the foresight of a democratic city councilman?  


Hell no!

I mean as so far as appearance wise.

True, Sansa was as stupid as her mother in Season One, and maybe some of Season Two.

And you can actually blame that on both her parents sheltering her from the world until she was already a teenager (particularly horrible idea in a Late Medieval society like Westeros)
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Damn, if she doesn't look more and more like Cat every time I see her.

Same hairstyle, same clothing type, same frown.

Sansa is all grown up.

  You mean a bitter twat who will end up fucking up things for everyone because she has the IQ of a horseshoe and the foresight of a democratic city councilman?  




trial by moon door.  i'm free bitchez!
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I have no problem with this season, and I'm glad they're changing some of the stuff up. As good as the first 3 books were, books 4 and 5 were mostly filler with a few good points hidden within.

 
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Would you have a problem with this season if you hadn't already read the books?  I haven't read them and I am enjoying this season as much as the previous ones.  I'll go back and read the books when (if) the fat man finishes them.



I have no problem with this season, and I'm glad they're changing some of the stuff up. As good as the first 3 books were, books 4 and 5 were mostly filler with a few good points hidden within.

 




 
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Would you have a problem with this season if you hadn't already read the books?  I haven't read them and I am enjoying this season as much as the previous ones.  I'll go back and read the books when (if) the fat man finishes them.

Hmm. Some things I like (Dany's sped up timeline).    



But the whole thing with Selmy pisses me off. Everyone in all of Westeros regaled tales of Ser Berristan being one of the mightiest Warriors to lift a sword. I understand he was aged, but even Jaimie Lannister didn't want to face the guy (when he had both hands).



I'm hoping they do something great for Arya's story and although Sansa's storyline is completely different I like the way it's going.



  I hear what you're saying about Selmy, but even though he went down, he did take on a whole lot of armed guys in a tight space.  He was actually fucking them up until he was overwhelmed.  He's also old as hell at that point.  I'd have liked to see him go down in a more honorable way against more worthy opponents, but it does seem more realistic that he went out the way he did.  I think it was just a case of superior numbers trumped superior skill.



  Also this was not the usual Sons of the Harpy attack like cutting a guy's throat in a whorehouse. They seemed to have set up a larger and more coordinated ambush, hoping to take out a patrol of Unsullied who were on duty and armed. So you could imagine that some of the guys in the masks were skilled, maybe out of work pit fighters.



With all the changes we've seen, I have been wondering if the SoH may be supplemented by some of the mercenary companies Danerys spurned.





 
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http://www.makinggameofthrones.com/production-diary/aidan-gillen-littlefingers-ripple-effect

I was surprised by it because it was new. But it excited me. It’s always nice to enter in a new world and interact with new people and characters you may not have interacted with. Especially if you are a character like Littlefinger who has caused ripples which radiate outwards and affect everybody. It's always interesting to just show up in their world and play dumb.
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I'm just hoping that Sansa, Arya, and Jon lay waste to the entire world by the end of this....
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The pit fighter Barristan fought in ADWD also used an arakh.  



 
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Has anyone around here heard of "San-San" fanfiction?
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Yes and it's disgusting.

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I agree.

IDK how it became such a thing-I, mean seriously, a 35 year old man with a 14 year old girl.

ETA: I shamelessly admit that I like to write fanfiction. It helps me with my writing and gives me ideas for my own original stories.

Link Posted: 5/8/2015 12:57:10 PM EDT
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Yes and it's disgusting.

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I can't imagine it's worse than some of the My Little Pony fanfiction some of the sickos around here read.

In one of the MLP GD threads someone posted part of one.  It was beyond fucked up.

Link Posted: 5/8/2015 1:01:35 PM EDT
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I can't imagine it's worse than some of the My Little Pony fanfiction some of the sickos around here read.

In one of the MLP GD threads someone posted part of one.  It was beyond fucked up.

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I can't imagine it's worse than some of the My Little Pony fanfiction some of the sickos around here read.

In one of the MLP GD threads someone posted part of one.  It was beyond fucked up.



Fanfics in general are fucking garbage, and I say that as a fanfic writer.

You have to really dig through the trash to find something decent or good, because most of the time it is teenage angst coupled with disgusting gay/incest/pedo smut, or badly written self insert fiction were every god damn canon character caters to the author's Mary-Sue.
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Drogo was about 32 and Daenerys was 14 when they married.

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the theory has a large following, but martin is very ant fanfic.  

Link Posted: 5/8/2015 1:16:32 PM EDT
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IDK how it became such a thing-I, mean seriously, a 35 year old man with a 14 year old girl.



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Hell, 50 years ago in this country that was normal.  It's kinda funny how it has become the epitome of evil in such a short time.  



 
Link Posted: 5/8/2015 1:17:32 PM EDT
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I agree.

IDK how it became such a thing-I, mean seriously, a 35 year old man with a 14 year old girl.

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I agree.

IDK how it became such a thing-I, mean seriously, a 35 year old man with a 14 year old girl.

ETA: I shamelessly admit that I like to write fanfiction. It helps me with my writing and gives me ideas for my own original stories.



it's part of him becoming more noble, if he's still alive, and her growing up to realize that life isn't old nan's stories and that pretty isn't always good and ugly isn't always evil.
Link Posted: 5/8/2015 1:18:46 PM EDT
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the theory has a large following, but martin is very ant fanfic.  
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the theory has a large following, but martin is very ant fanfic.  

Sophie Turner (Sansa) even mentions it during the S1 commentaries.

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Sophie Turner (Sansa) even mentions it during the S1 commentaries.

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the theory has a large following, but martin is very ant fanfic.  

Sophie Turner (Sansa) even mentions it during the S1 commentaries.




i can see it contributing to clegane bowl if it's true
Link Posted: 5/8/2015 1:27:13 PM EDT
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the theory has a large following, but martin is very ant fanfic.  



I believe he's that way because he feels like writing fanfiction doesn't take an author out of their comfort zone (aka, creating your own playbox and not use and abuse his.)

Or he could just be a stingy old fat neckbeard...
Link Posted: 5/8/2015 1:35:33 PM EDT
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I believe he's that way because he feels like writing fanfiction doesn't take an author out of their comfort zone (aka, creating your own playbox and not use and abuse his.)

Or he could just be a stingy old fat neckbeard...
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the theory has a large following, but martin is very ant fanfic.  



I believe he's that way because he feels like writing fanfiction doesn't take an author out of their comfort zone (aka, creating your own playbox and not use and abuse his.)

Or he could just be a stingy old fat neckbeard...


i've seen it mentioned on westeros.org.  he sees it as copyright infringement as well as poor exercise for aspiring writers.  can't really blame him...it's a lot easier to tell a story with characters somebody else has already established.
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i've seen it mentioned on westeros.org.  he sees it as copyright infringement as well as poor exercise for aspiring writers.  can't really blame him...it's a lot easier to tell a story with characters somebody else has already established.
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He does realize that he can go to the various fanfiction websites and ask them not to have any of his works used as fanfic material, doesn't he?
Link Posted: 5/8/2015 1:42:56 PM EDT
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I agree.

IDK how it became such a thing-I, mean seriously, a 35 year old man with a 14 year old girl.

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I agree.

IDK how it became such a thing-I, mean seriously, a 35 year old man with a 14 year old girl.

ETA: I shamelessly admit that I like to write fanfiction. It helps me with my writing and gives me ideas for my own original stories.



It's not their ages that makes it disgusting.
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It's not their ages that makes it disgusting.
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I agree.

IDK how it became such a thing-I, mean seriously, a 35 year old man with a 14 year old girl.

ETA: I shamelessly admit that I like to write fanfiction. It helps me with my writing and gives me ideas for my own original stories.



It's not their ages that makes it disgusting.


What is it then?
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