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Posted: 7/21/2014 11:28:40 AM EDT
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Are they laying land mines down?
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Posted: 7/21/2014 11:29:51 AM EDT
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Are they going to have weapons and ammo? ROEs? No but they will have diapers and wet wipes. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 11:30:16 AM EDT
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Gov Perry says that it is state money for now, but he expects the Federal Government to respect its constitutional requirement to secure the border and reimburse the State.
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Posted: 7/21/2014 11:30:58 AM EDT
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Press conference is now over. I'm happy so far.
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Posted: 7/21/2014 11:31:03 AM EDT
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I keep thinking they are sending the same guys we watched in Rambo. I know its an old reference but I still have that burned in my mind to what the NG is like when put into action.
"We'll make the cover of Soldier of Fortune"!! |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 11:31:13 AM EDT
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Serious question. Are they allowed to prevent the people from getting here? Or are they additional transportation for BP to use to get people to camps ? That's about what I figure. To me it seems more like enabling the BP to continue to pursue the bad bussing policy. 
Perhaps a "This load of illegal childrenz brought into your community courtesy of Gov. Goodhair" sign would be appropriate on future bus loads. 
One thing it might do is help stem the flow of Mexicans that are now taking advantage of the BP concentrating on the kids. At least there is that small comfort. 
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Posted: 7/21/2014 11:31:30 AM EDT
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This is good right?
Link to press conference? |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 11:33:35 AM EDT
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The press conference did not say anything about transporting illegals to camps or bases. However, General Nichols did say that most guardsmen are trained in combat first aid and they would use that skill if needed.
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Posted: 7/21/2014 11:35:39 AM EDT
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The press conference did not say anything about transporting illegals to camps or bases. However, General Nichols did say that most guardsmen are trained in combat first aid and they would use that skill if needed. Isn't the Texas State Guard an un-armed, all volunteer service that does well... nothing? |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 11:37:24 AM EDT
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At least he is trying to get something done. I don't get the Perry hate. I would bet money there are illegal immigration sympathizers here in numbers. Well, duh-- Eliminate all restrictions on immigration
We welcome all refugees to our country. Furthermore, immigration must not be restricted for reasons of race, religion, political creed, age, or sexual preference. We therefore call for the elimination of all restrictions on immigration, the abolition of the Immigration and Naturalization Service and the Border Patrol, and a declaration of full amnesty for all people who have entered the country illegally. Source: National Platform of the Libertarian Party , Jul 2, 2000 
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Posted: 7/21/2014 11:37:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Isn't the Texas State Guard an un-armed, all volunteer service that does well... nothing? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The press conference did not say anything about transporting illegals to camps or bases. However, General Nichols did say that most guardsmen are trained in combat first aid and they would use that skill if needed. Isn't the Texas State Guard an un-armed, all volunteer service that does well... nothing? |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 11:38:20 AM EDT
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Isn't the Texas State Guard an un-armed, all volunteer service that does well... nothing? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The press conference did not say anything about transporting illegals to camps or bases. However, General Nichols did say that most guardsmen are trained in combat first aid and they would use that skill if needed. Isn't the Texas State Guard an un-armed, all volunteer service that does well... nothing? apparantly they will be doing more than the BP and DHS. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 11:39:31 AM EDT
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apparantly they will be doing more than the BP and DHS. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The press conference did not say anything about transporting illegals to camps or bases. However, General Nichols did say that most guardsmen are trained in combat first aid and they would use that skill if needed. Isn't the Texas State Guard an un-armed, all volunteer service that does well... nothing? apparantly they will be doing more than the BP and DHS. Well that doesn't take much
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Posted: 7/21/2014 11:40:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Link to press conference? that's all I can find at the moment. It was being covered live on WOAI 1200 radio. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 11:40:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Perry lost my confidence when he went on about how "heartless" it was to not provide tuition breaks for children of illegals but I'll watch for now. Much like I'm watching the thread about arrest proceedings against Lerner and fallout from Holder's contempt and.... |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 11:40:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Isn't the Texas State Guard an un-armed, all volunteer service that does well... nothing? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The press conference did not say anything about transporting illegals to camps or bases. However, General Nichols did say that most guardsmen are trained in combat first aid and they would use that skill if needed. Isn't the Texas State Guard an un-armed, all volunteer service that does well... nothing? |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 11:41:03 AM EDT
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Good. If nothing else they can document what's going on there.
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Posted: 7/21/2014 11:43:58 AM EDT
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Good job for Gov. Perry. I hope Gov. Brewer here in Arizona, along with Gov. Sandoval in NV follow suit. I know CA doesn't give a h00t, so...
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Posted: 7/21/2014 11:44:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wouldn't expect you non-border staters to get it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Remember there would be no Texas if not for Tennessee.
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Posted: 7/21/2014 11:44:51 AM EDT
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And there it is. 
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At least he is trying to get something done. I don't get the Perry hate. I would bet money there are illegal immigration sympathizers here in numbers. Well, duh-- Eliminate all restrictions on immigration
We welcome all refugees to our country. Furthermore, immigration must not be restricted for reasons of race, religion, political creed, age, or sexual preference. We therefore call for the elimination of all restrictions on immigration, the abolition of the Immigration and Naturalization Service and the Border Patrol, and a declaration of full amnesty for all people who have entered the country illegally. Source: National Platform of the Libertarian Party , Jul 2, 2000 And there it is.
Shhhhhhh--don't tell anyone. They don't like that made public, as they are just rational enough to know it hurts their credibility to the core. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 11:45:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryDang it I better more mags pack if we got just 6 minutes to go!
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Posted: 7/21/2014 11:45:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Remember there would be no Texas if not for Tennessee. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Remember there would be no Texas if not for Tennessee.  |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 11:47:24 AM EDT
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Good. If nothing else they can document what's going on there. ...tragic email accident.
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Posted: 7/21/2014 11:48:26 AM EDT
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In before Obama nationalize's the Texas national guard. How about "In before Fed's pull all equipment on loan to the TXNG." |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 11:50:04 AM EDT
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At least he is trying to get something done. I don't get the Perry hate. Because he promised us a fence just prior to his last election. The people were ready, willing, and able to pay for it via bond issue too. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 11:50:46 AM EDT
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Based on the news conference, they will be in out post and patrolling along the river with the border patrol. They said gun boats and helicopters will be used as well. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Great step in the right direction but will anything actually come of it? Will they actually enforce the boarder or will they just help move them along to the camps? Last time they sent them down here they were unarmed and rode desks at the BP offices. They need to be armed on the border, have full permission to return fire, and given authorization to stop anyone from entering illegally, if they don't have that then it is a public appeasement ploy and a waste of resources. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 11:52:26 AM EDT
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I wouldn't expect you non-border staters to get it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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dude we are with you and might have to help you out. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 11:53:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Remember there would be no Texas if not for Tennessee. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Remember there would be no Texas if not for Tennessee. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 11:54:36 AM EDT
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Have Obama and Holder filed a lawsuit against Texas yet in order to stop them ?
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Posted: 7/21/2014 11:55:56 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/21/2014 11:56:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wouldn't expect you non-border staters to get it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Instead of Blaming our country for not taking them in, why not blame their country for it shitty conditions... |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 11:56:51 AM EDT
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Have Obama and Holder filed a lawsuit against Texas yet in order to stop them ? They could federalize the entire TXARNG. That would be very expensive. But they belong to TX, in the absence of federalization, the governor is free to use his guard as he sees fit. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 11:59:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In before Obama nationalize's the Texas national guard. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 12:02:15 PM EDT
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Shhhhhhh--don't tell anyone. They don't like that made public, as they are just rational enough to know it hurts their credibility to the core. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I would bet money there are illegal immigration sympathizers here in numbers. Well, duh-- Eliminate all restrictions on immigration
We welcome all refugees to our country. Furthermore, immigration must not be restricted for reasons of race, religion, political creed, age, or sexual preference. We therefore call for the elimination of all restrictions on immigration, the abolition of the Immigration and Naturalization Service and the Border Patrol, and a declaration of full amnesty for all people who have entered the country illegally. Source: National Platform of the Libertarian Party , Jul 2, 2000 And there it is.
Shhhhhhh--don't tell anyone. They don't like that made public, as they are just rational enough to know it hurts their credibility to the core. Nothing like a 14 year old policy statement to hurt someone's credibility, eh? Besides, most of the libertarians on this site are not Libertarians. My nearly 100% Republican party voting record, former Republican party official self included. But you keep on banging that drum while we watch Operation "Hands in Our Pockets." Yes, that's a double entendre. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 12:02:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Isn't it already that way hence its called the Texas "national" guard? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: In before Obama nationalize's the Texas national guard. NO. State Guard with mutual funding and Federal loyalties when called upon for Federal use. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 12:02:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Isn't it already that way hence its called the Texas "national" guard? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: In before Obama nationalize's the Texas national guard. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 12:04:09 PM EDT
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Isn't it already that way hence its called the Texas "national" guard? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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In before Obama nationalize's the Texas national guard. Not exactly. The guard is normally in a status governored under Title 32 of the US Code. Guardsman under this status report to the governor. (Title 32 Status) When activated under federal service, they fall under Title 10 (Title 10 status) which reports to the President (through the Geographic Combatant Commander and down). I don't think Title 10 inactive status is possible for guardsman, like it is for reservists, but I don't know for sure. Reservists are always under Title 10. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 12:04:11 PM EDT
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Shhhhhhh--don't tell anyone. They don't like that made public, as they are just rational enough to know it hurts their credibility to the core. Doesn't bother me. It's one of many reasons I'm not a member of their party.
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Posted: 7/21/2014 12:07:19 PM EDT
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I keep thinking they are sending the same guys we watched in Rambo. I know its an old reference but I still have that burned in my mind to what the NG is like when put into action. "We'll make the cover of Soldier of Fortune"!! National Guard/Active Reserve have been an active participant in OIF, OEF, etc., for a long time now. The leadership waxes and wanes but the ranks are full of prior service and those who have multiple deployments oversees. Does anyone know which units are slated for activation? |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 12:08:58 PM EDT
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Gov Perry says that it is state money for now, but he expects the Federal Government to respect its constitutional requirement to secure the border and reimburse the State. "Hope and change" vs "hoping for some loose change" The feds ain't gonna pay shit. Sorry to say, but this is gonna be paid for by Texans. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 12:09:33 PM EDT
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Nothing like a 14 year old policy statement to hurt someone's credibility, eh? Besides, most of the libertarians on this site are not Libertarians. My nearly 100% Republican party voting record, former Republican party official self included. But you keep on banging that drum while we watch Operation "Hands in Our Pockets." Yes, that's a double entendre. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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. Nothing like a 14 year old policy statement to hurt someone's credibility, eh? Besides, most of the libertarians on this site are not Libertarians. My nearly 100% Republican party voting record, former Republican party official self included. But you keep on banging that drum while we watch Operation "Hands in Our Pockets." Yes, that's a double entendre. Huh? You are a Republican who is butt hurt over another party's platform being quoted? At least you spelled "entendre" correctly, even if you didn't use it correctly.
Or are you a Libertarian who denies it when convenient? 
Trick question--have you ever heard of a guy named Ron Paul? |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 12:09:46 PM EDT
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In before Obama nationalize's the Texas national guard. I kinda wish that he tries to. It will make him look really good in the eyes of many. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 12:10:07 PM EDT
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National Guard/Active Reserve have been an active participant in OIF, OEF, etc., for a long time now. The leadership waxes and wanes but the ranks are full of prior service and those who have multiple deployments oversees. Does anyone know which units are slated for activation? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I keep thinking they are sending the same guys we watched in Rambo. I know its an old reference but I still have that burned in my mind to what the NG is like when put into action. "We'll make the cover of Soldier of Fortune"!! National Guard/Active Reserve have been an active participant in OIF, OEF, etc., for a long time now. The leadership waxes and wanes but the ranks are full of prior service and those who have multiple deployments oversees. Does anyone know which units are slated for activation? I would guess MP/SP units depending on the slated mission. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 12:10:36 PM EDT
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When they drop the first invader let me know, until then . . . . meh
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Posted: 7/21/2014 12:11:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryUnfortunately you may be right. If it is to be let it be now before my kids have to contend with it. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 12:11:17 PM EDT
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Doesn't bother me. It's one of many reasons I'm not a member of their party. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Shhhhhhh--don't tell anyone. They don't like that made public, as they are just rational enough to know it hurts their credibility to the core. Doesn't bother me. It's one of many reasons I'm not a member of their party. I know. It always amuses me though when I am treated with contempt for stating the simple truth I am a conservative, but with strong libertarian leanings, a la Sean Hannity. I guess I'm not "pure enough" for some. ::shrug:: |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 12:12:21 PM EDT
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tick tock tick tock tick tock
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Posted: 7/21/2014 12:14:50 PM EDT
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Isn't the Texas State Guard an un-armed, all volunteer service that does well... nothing? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The press conference did not say anything about transporting illegals to camps or bases. However, General Nichols did say that most guardsmen are trained in combat first aid and they would use that skill if needed. Isn't the Texas State Guard an un-armed, all volunteer service that does well... nothing? Yes. |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 12:15:02 PM EDT
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Are they going to have weapons and ammo? ROEs? May return fire only if fired upon. May only use bean bags. __________________________________________________________________ Cross-platform electronic bound book (original thread). PGP public key. «nolite confidere in principibus, in filiis hominum quibus non est salus» |
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Posted: 7/21/2014 12:17:16 PM EDT
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The press conference did not say anything about transporting illegals to camps or bases. However, General Nichols did say that most guardsmen are trained in combat first aid and they would use that skill if needed. Isn't the Texas State Guard an un-armed, all volunteer service that does well... nothing? In sure they will hand out literally hundreds of pounds of water during this ordeal, and will wear their uniforms into every establishment within 300 miles on the hunt for 'attaboys. |
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