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I agree Oklahoma is very good this year and could win it all but to laugh at the SEC West is pretty dam bold. Don't wait and pass judgment on our teams records at the end of the year after we beat the shit out of each other in divisional conference play. Is there any other divisional conference (talking SEC West, not East) undefeated at this point vs teams outside their division?
I also understand your animosity considering your avatar.

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Just hope Winston can keep it together for a few more months. Stay on lockdown, help us get another championship then head on the league to be someone else's headache.

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But that is exactly why we need a playoff not driven by the polls.  You can't really judge how the conferences match up against each other based on one interconference game apiece in week 3 or 4.

 

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I just looked. You can correct me on the powerhouses I overlooked.

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Which is why the playoff is driven by a playoff committee.

Say it with me now: polls are irrelevant.

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I agree Oklahoma is very good this year and could win it all but to laugh at the SEC West is pretty dam bold. Don't wait and pass judgment on our teams records at the end of the year after we beat the shit out of each other in divisional conference play. Is there any other divisional conference (talking SEC West, not East) undefeated at this point vs teams outside their division?
I also understand your animosity considering your avatar.

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Oklahoma opened up with La Tech, Tulsa, and Tennessee.  Real juggernaut schedule there.  

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I agree Oklahoma is very good this year and could win it all but to laugh at the SEC West is pretty dam bold. Don't wait and pass judgment on our teams records at the end of the year after we beat the shit out of each other in divisional conference play. Is there any other divisional conference (talking SEC West, not East) undefeated at this point vs teams outside their division?
I also understand your animosity considering your avatar.

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I love Bama and respect you, but Sims performance yesterday had more to do with who they were playing than how good he is.

Those record yards were more indicative of how bad the Florida D really is.

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It's interesting that you of all people want to judge anything based on the polls.  

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True, he isnt the greatest QB out there, but from the WV game till this one he has shown some improvement............he doesnt look as rattled as he did in that 1st game. Long season though with lots of tough teams yet to play, and he will have plenty of chances to show he is the best option. Coker may yet get his chance

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True, he isnt the greatest QB out there, but from the WV game till this one he has shown some improvement............he doesnt look as rattled as he did in that 1st game. Long season though with lots of tough teams yet to play, and he will have plenty of chances to show he is the best option. Coker may yet get his chance

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How about this instead?  In general, the "Power 5" conferences are all superior to the smaller guys.  So if we looked at only games played against other P5 schools and the two strong Independents (Notre Dame and BYU) that should give us a general idea of how each conference as a whole is doing, regardless of arbitrary ranking.  Yeah, some top teams in one conference may be playing crap teams from another conference but it's at least a point of comparison that relies on wins and loses instead of polls (since you usually hate them...unless they support a point you're trying to make...)  and does what it can to weed out the "cupcakes".

Big 10: 5-11 (31.25%)

SEC: 5-2 (71.43%)

Big 12: 4-7 (36.36%)

ACC: 4-6 (40%)

PAC: 6-2 (75%)

Indys: 4-0   (100%)

This in general seems to fall in line with what most people are thinking so far this year:  PAC 12 and SEC are both strong conferences, ACC has some good talent and the Big 10 and Big 12 are dumpster fires.

We'll ignore the 4-0 for the Indys.  

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 OU spanked UT

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It's very possible, but Bama does have two weeks to prepare.

Isn't it funny how Bama always seems to get their bi-weeks before huge games?

Last year they got one before they played @ A&M and at home to LSU.

This year they have one before they play @ Ole Miss and before they play @ LSU.

If you let Nick Saban pick when Bama got it's off weeks that's probably exactly how he'd pick it.

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I'll call it now....bama slips and suffers a loss to Ole Miss.

Bama "can" be good this year, but right now they have several things that need to be fixed.

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Almost like "divine intervention" or something, eh?...


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Yeah.... something like that...
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It's very possible, but Bama does have two weeks to prepare.

Isn't it funny how Bama always seems to get their bi-weeks before huge games?

Last year they got one before they played @ A&M and at home to LSU.

This year they have one before they play @ Ole Miss and before they play @ LSU.

If you let Nick Saban pick when Bama got it's off weeks that's probably exactly how he'd pick it.

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"Saban" is pretty damn close to "Satan."

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How about this instead?  In general, the "Power 5" conferences are all superior to the smaller guys.  So if we looked at only games played against other P5 schools and the two strong Independents (Notre Dame and BYU) that should give us a general idea of how each conference as a whole is doing, regardless of arbitrary ranking.  Yeah, some top teams in one conference may be playing crap teams from another conference but it's at least a point of comparison that relies on wins and loses instead of polls (since you usually hate them...unless they support a point you're trying to make...)  and does what it can to weed out the "cupcakes".

Big 10: 5-11 (31.25%)

SEC: 5-2 (71.43%)

Big 12: 4-7 (36.36%)

ACC: 4-6 (40%)

PAC: 6-2 (75%)

Indys: 4-0   (100%)

This in general seems to fall in line with what most people are thinking so far this year:  PAC 12 and SEC are both strong conferences, ACC has some good talent and the Big 10 and Big 12 are dumpster fires.

We'll ignore the 4-0 for the Indys.  

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How about this instead?  In general, the "Power 5" conferences are all superior to the smaller guys.  So if we looked at only games played against other P5 schools and the two strong Independents (Notre Dame and BYU) that should give us a general idea of how each conference as a whole is doing, regardless of arbitrary ranking.  Yeah, some top teams in one conference may be playing crap teams from another conference but it's at least a point of comparison that relies on wins and loses instead of polls (since you usually hate them...unless they support a point you're trying to make...)  and does what it can to weed out the "cupcakes".

Big 10: 5-11 (31.25%)

SEC: 5-2 (71.43%)

Big 12: 4-7 (36.36%)

ACC: 4-6 (40%)

PAC: 6-2 (75%)

Indys: 4-0   (100%)

This in general seems to fall in line with what most people are thinking so far this year:  PAC 12 and SEC are both strong conferences, ACC has some good talent and the Big 10 and Big 12 are dumpster fires.

We'll ignore the 4-0 for the Indys.  

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and if you put a G in front of Obama it spells Go Bama

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Personal attacks, coc violation, lock it down.  

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I think you about kicked my ass in Sipsey after I said that

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No Ranger...you fell for it, hook, line and sinker. ESPN was obsessed with Jameis the entire night and the "rules" about suspension versus getting kicked off are different. Jameis wants to help his team..he could have run home to Alabama (rumor #1) asked to pack up his apt. (rumor #2) or be interviewed by police about new rape allegations (rumor #3). None of which was true. He is not a monster and has never been arrested (truth). Is he a thug? No. Did he come from "across the tracks", yes. Is he learning how to be "Heisman", dunno but he is still playing football and is a good student.

Here is the breakdown of the obsession with Jameis last night:

Deadspin.com took the time to figure out how much time ESPN dedicated to the suspended Jameis Winston during Saturday evening's Florida State versus Clemson game.

Here is the results:

'Five percent, it turns out. (Put another way, it means one of every 20 seconds of game broadcast was spent showing Winston; in total, the benched QB was onscreen for eight full minutes.) Game announcers Chris Fowler and Kirk Herbstreit referred to Jameis Winston 60 times by name, and a total of 48 camera takes featuring Winston appeared in the broadcast.'

And here is the video proof: ESPN Jameis obsession

Am I defending Jameis Winston even with all his missteps and stupidity? Yup. I'm a Nole and love Florida State University...I'm am not fair weather or bandwagon. If we lose a game or 2 this year, I am still a Nole and will be pulling for Jameis to do well as he finishes college and enters the NFL. I have seen farrrr worse student/athletes in my days and Jameis is not one of them. He could be, but I believe he will be a great representative for FSU for years to come.

He's not a pot smoking/gf beating/raping/basket weaving class/entitled student. He is the class clown and always has been. He needs to grow up...problem is, everyone is losing patience with him doing that very thing. Unrealistic to make the best football player in America to also be the best student/citizen. Those two are not mutually exclusive. He got the Heisman for being the best football player, not team Chaplain. Either he grows up or he falls into oblivion...but I won't give up on him especially when a Gator or Barner yells "string him up!" No. Heck no.

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The irony of that didn't escape me, but how else was I supposed to make a point about the difference in Wisconsin or San Jose St? Or even Texas for that matter if any of the SEC teams had played Texas and thought they were good because they won.

For those kinds of comparisons polls are somewhat valid.