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Posted: 12/13/2013 10:16:44 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/13/2013 10:21:17 AM EDT
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Good snag by FBI, and everyone else involved.
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Posted: 12/13/2013 10:21:31 AM EDT
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bump
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Posted: 12/13/2013 10:22:06 AM EDT
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Did he use a glock? Boom!
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Posted: 12/13/2013 10:22:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good snag by FBI, or who ever was involved. News conference said they were watching him for 6 months. |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 10:23:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did he use a glock? Boom! |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 10:26:11 AM EDT
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Another terrorist created by the FBI. Undercover FBI agents probably begged and pleaded with him to make the attack.
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Posted: 12/13/2013 10:29:39 AM EDT
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So he never actually had a real solid plan and did not actually have real explosives or the materials to create a bomb.
I'm not trying to bash the FBI but I sometimes wonder if these cases where they provide inert explosives to guys who express a desire to cause harm aren't the FBI out trolling and they caught some retard with a big mouth and a little brain. Someone who otherwise never would have the smarts enough to actually pull something like this off. Granted there are truly dangerous people out there but the ones who to me are really dangerous would not be running their mouth. Maybe they did catch the next Timothy McVeigh, I don't know or did they just roll up Ricky the Retard. Just my thoughts when I see these cases. Again I'm not trying to FBI or LEO bash just thinking out loud. |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 10:31:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So he never actually had a real solid plan and did not actually have real explosives or the materials to create a bomb. I'm not trying to bash the FBI but I sometimes wonder if these cases where they provide inert explosives to guys who express a desire to cause harm aren't the FBI out trolling and they caught some retard with a big mouth and a little brain. Someone who otherwise never would have the smarts enough to actually pull something like this off. Granted there are truly dangerous people out there but the ones who to me are really dangerous would not be running their mouth. Maybe they did catch the next Timothy McVeigh, I don't know or did they just roll up Ricky the Retard. Just my thoughts when I see these cases. Again I'm not trying to FBI or LEO bash just thinking out loud. |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 10:31:15 AM EDT
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Another terrorist created by the FBI. Undercover FBI agents probably begged and pleaded with him to make the attack. My point exactly. Your post was just a little more succinct. Mine was long winded.
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Posted: 12/13/2013 10:33:14 AM EDT
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I agree with you 100%. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So he never actually had a real solid plan and did not actually have real explosives or the materials to create a bomb. I'm not trying to bash the FBI but I sometimes wonder if these cases where they provide inert explosives to guys who express a desire to cause harm aren't the FBI out trolling and they caught some retard with a big mouth and a little brain. Someone who otherwise never would have the smarts enough to actually pull something like this off. Granted there are truly dangerous people out there but the ones who to me are really dangerous would not be running their mouth. Maybe they did catch the next Timothy McVeigh, I don't know or did they just roll up Ricky the Retard. Just my thoughts when I see these cases. Again I'm not trying to FBI or LEO bash just thinking out loud. Yep and they go out and hold a big Press Conference and talk about how many lives they saved and how badly we need more of them in our lives to make us safer. |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 10:38:45 AM EDT
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Yep and they go out and hold a big Press Conference and talk about how many lives they saved and how badly we need more of them in our lives to make us safer. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So he never actually had a real solid plan and did not actually have real explosives or the materials to create a bomb. I'm not trying to bash the FBI but I sometimes wonder if these cases where they provide inert explosives to guys who express a desire to cause harm aren't the FBI out trolling and they caught some retard with a big mouth and a little brain. Someone who otherwise never would have the smarts enough to actually pull something like this off. Granted there are truly dangerous people out there but the ones who to me are really dangerous would not be running their mouth. Maybe they did catch the next Timothy McVeigh, I don't know or did they just roll up Ricky the Retard. Just my thoughts when I see these cases. Again I'm not trying to FBI or LEO bash just thinking out loud. Yep and they go out and hold a big Press Conference and talk about how many lives they saved and how badly we need more of them in our lives to make us safer. And how important it is to give up all our rights to privacy. |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 10:39:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And how important it is to give up all our rights to privacy. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So he never actually had a real solid plan and did not actually have real explosives or the materials to create a bomb. I'm not trying to bash the FBI but I sometimes wonder if these cases where they provide inert explosives to guys who express a desire to cause harm aren't the FBI out trolling and they caught some retard with a big mouth and a little brain. Someone who otherwise never would have the smarts enough to actually pull something like this off. Granted there are truly dangerous people out there but the ones who to me are really dangerous would not be running their mouth. Maybe they did catch the next Timothy McVeigh, I don't know or did they just roll up Ricky the Retard. Just my thoughts when I see these cases. Again I'm not trying to FBI or LEO bash just thinking out loud. Yep and they go out and hold a big Press Conference and talk about how many lives they saved and how badly we need more of them in our lives to make us safer. And how important it is to give up all our rights to privacy. And guns. Don't forget, the EVIL GUNS! |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 10:43:09 AM EDT
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I'm sure all 30 of the people who use that airport are greatly relieved.
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Posted: 12/13/2013 10:46:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm sure all 30 of the people who use that airport feel much better.  That's all 40 people you dummy. |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 10:53:11 AM EDT
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As long as it wasn't KHUT (Hutchinson) we're ok. You have to try their airport restaurant/buffet there. It is worth the stop.
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Posted: 12/13/2013 10:54:39 AM EDT
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I'm sure all 30 of the people who use that airport are greatly relieved. 
I thought that too. I lived in Wichita for 18 months and flew out of there once. It's even smaller than Tulsa Intl. |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 10:59:06 AM EDT
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So he never actually had a real solid plan and did not actually have real explosives or the materials to create a bomb. I'm not trying to bash the FBI but I sometimes wonder if these cases where they provide inert explosives to guys who express a desire to cause harm aren't the FBI out trolling and they caught some retard with a big mouth and a little brain. Someone who otherwise never would have the smarts enough to actually pull something like this off. Granted there are truly dangerous people out there but the ones who to me are really dangerous would not be running their mouth. Maybe they did catch the next Timothy McVeigh, I don't know or did they just roll up Ricky the Retard. Just my thoughts when I see these cases. Again I'm not trying to FBI or LEO bash just thinking out loud. Gotta justify the Patriot Act, DHS and their budget somehow. Can't let the GWOT simmer too low or folks will want their money back. |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 11:00:14 AM EDT
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The guy is an avionics tech and was going to set off the device by hand?
Sure, that all fits.
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Posted: 12/13/2013 11:10:37 AM EDT
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FBI plucks more low hanging fruit for victory
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Posted: 12/13/2013 11:12:04 AM EDT
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Orgy of evidence!
What kind of moran takes photos of the entrances to the facility he works, in order to facilitate planning? This is movie BS. Kudos to the FBI but I'm gonna say this perpetrator is too stupid to assemble a bomb. |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 11:19:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good snag by FBI, and everyone else involved. Not sure if serious.... Kudos to the FBI for setting up a non-Arab for once, so you wouldn't catch on that this is yet another classic FBI entrapment scheme. |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 11:21:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought that too. I lived in Wichita for 18 months and flew out of there once. It's even smaller than Tulsa Intl. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm sure all 30 of the people who use that airport are greatly relieved. I thought that too. I lived in Wichita for 18 months and flew out of there once. It's even smaller than Tulsa Intl. It does seem like a waste of time. I don't think you'd need much more than Mentos and Coke to take care of ICT. |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 11:23:11 AM EDT
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What a motherfucker.
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Posted: 12/13/2013 11:23:51 AM EDT
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I'm sure all 30 of the people who use that airport are greatly relieved. I'm sure a lot of the servicemembers that fly in and out of ICT are relieved, yes.
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Posted: 12/13/2013 11:23:59 AM EDT
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Did he use a glock? Boom! No a toyota, ban them for the children |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 11:25:04 AM EDT
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Welcome to security theater ladies and gentlemen, enjoy the show! KWCH in Wichita showed a picture of the guy, white dude and he didn't look like the sharpest tool in the shed. Seems like a typical FBI devised "terrorist plot."
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Posted: 12/13/2013 11:25:06 AM EDT
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http://www.kctv5.com/story/24216016/fbi-man-plotted-suicide-bombing-at-wichita-airport
Here's the Terry-rist   U.S. Attorney Barry Grissom announced Friday the arrest of Terry Loewen. He said the 58-year-old man planned to kill himself in the car bombing as part of a "violent jihad against the United States." ============================================================ Loewen allegedly left his sister a letter dated Dec. 11, according to court records. "By the time you read this, I will -- if everything went as planned -- have been martyred in the path of Allah," he wrote. "There will have been an event at the airport, which I am responsible for. The operation was time to cause maximum carnage and death." He said the "only explanation" was he believes in jihad "for the sake of Allah and the sake of my Muslim brothers and sisters." He said he knew his name would be notorious. "I expect to be called a terrorist (which I am), a psychopath and a homicidal maniac,' he wrote. DURKA DURKA JIHAD !!!11!!1 |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 11:33:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Another terrorist created by the FBI. Undercover FBI agents probably begged and pleaded with him to make the attack. |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 11:35:06 AM EDT
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Another terrorist created by the FBI. Undercover FBI agents probably begged and pleaded with him to make the attack. Dont forget these guys. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/27/hutaree-militia-members-conspiracy-charges-dropped_n_1383390.html |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 11:37:23 AM EDT
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I'm sure a lot of the servicemembers that fly in and out of ICT are relieved, yes. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm sure all 30 of the people who use that airport are greatly relieved. I'm sure a lot of the servicemembers that fly in and out of ICT are relieved, yes. I am unconcerned about your outrage. The joke stands. |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 11:56:45 AM EDT
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I am unconcerned about your outrage. The joke stands. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm sure all 30 of the people who use that airport are greatly relieved. I'm sure a lot of the servicemembers that fly in and out of ICT are relieved, yes. I am unconcerned about your outrage. The joke stands. We're concerned at your lack of caring for people that might have been hurt had this plan succeeded, which includes a little more than 30 people. |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 11:59:04 AM EDT
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Good snag by FBI, and everyone else involved. Not really, they were the ones who set it up. They want to make it sound like there was a threat, but there never was, and probably never would have been a problem if the FBI didn't get involved. They always wait till the last minute, to make it look close. Never understood this, but whatever makes the sheep feel safe. Enjoy the news laws that come out of this dog and pony show. |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 12:00:45 PM EDT
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I'm sure all 30 of the people who use that airport are greatly relieved. Building a new terminal here. Next year might be 60 people. 
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Posted: 12/13/2013 12:08:03 PM EDT
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Not really, they were the ones who set it up. They want to make it sound like there was a threat, but there never was, and probably never would have been a problem if the FBI didn't get involved. They always wait till the last minute, to make it look close. Never understood this, but whatever makes the sheep feel safe. Enjoy the news laws that come out of this dog and pony show. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good snag by FBI, and everyone else involved. Not really, they were the ones who set it up. They want to make it sound like there was a threat, but there never was, and probably never would have been a problem if the FBI didn't get involved. They always wait till the last minute, to make it look close. Never understood this, but whatever makes the sheep feel safe. Enjoy the news laws that come out of this dog and pony show. Guess I forgot the  smiley.
I'll adjust myself. |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 12:08:58 PM EDT
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Congrats to the FBI for finding a crazy non-Muslim dumbass to nudge into a plot. Surely he would've done something on his own without intervention.
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Posted: 12/13/2013 12:10:34 PM EDT
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Not really, they were the ones who set it up. They want to make it sound like there was a threat, but there never was, and probably never would have been a problem if the FBI didn't get involved. They always wait till the last minute, to make it look close. Never understood this, but whatever makes the sheep feel safe. Enjoy the news laws that come out of this dog and pony show. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good snag by FBI, and everyone else involved. Not really, they were the ones who set it up. They want to make it sound like there was a threat, but there never was, and probably never would have been a problem if the FBI didn't get involved. They always wait till the last minute, to make it look close. Never understood this, but whatever makes the sheep feel safe. Enjoy the news laws that come out of this dog and pony show. Sweet promotions for the guy in charge maybe? |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 12:14:07 PM EDT
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Christian right is the big threat.
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Posted: 12/13/2013 12:14:18 PM EDT
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Congrats to the FBI for finding a crazy non-Muslim dumbass to nudge into a plot. Surely he would've done something on his own without intervention. At one point they say he has no religious affiliation. Then turn around and reveal he was on a "gee hod"... So which is it, Mr. Gman??? |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 12:16:08 PM EDT
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Guy I work with told me that his daughter works with alleged dork-jihadist.
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Posted: 12/13/2013 12:20:22 PM EDT
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So he never actually had a real solid plan and did not actually have real explosives or the materials to create a bomb. I'm not trying to bash the FBI but I sometimes wonder if these cases where they provide inert explosives to guys who express a desire to cause harm aren't the FBI out trolling and they caught some retard with a big mouth and a little brain. Someone who otherwise never would have the smarts enough to actually pull something like this off. Granted there are truly dangerous people out there but the ones who to me are really dangerous would not be running their mouth. Maybe they did catch the next Timothy McVeigh, I don't know or did they just roll up Ricky the Retard. Just my thoughts when I see these cases. Again I'm not trying to FBI or LEO bash just thinking out loud. These cases are the absolute best bang for bucks in terms of time, resources, and effectiveness. These people could not do something mass destructive without help. I prefer that help to come from the FBI, not some actual bad guy. Remember someone willing to kill themselves just to murder innocent people is potentially only a bad break up, pink slip, or drug binge away from shooting up a school or government building <----something that doesn't help us very much. They like the sex appeal that comes along with being the next "terrorist" I'm not saying death penalty, but loony bin or prison is fine for me. |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 12:24:35 PM EDT
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The WMD charge is bullshit.
If he wasn't using a biological, chemical, or radiological bomb, it wasn't a WMD. If HE counted as WMD, we found shitloads all over Iraq (in addition to real WMDs, but not enough for the lefties to be happy). |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 12:26:09 PM EDT
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To summarize: a loser with no real connections to terrorists finds a "friend" on the internet that happens to be an FBI agent provocateur.
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Posted: 12/13/2013 12:26:32 PM EDT
[#43]
I'm suspect of most stories like this. This one seems fishy
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Posted: 12/13/2013 12:30:09 PM EDT
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Another terrorist created by the FBI. Undercover FBI agents probably begged and pleaded with him to make the attack. I love they state he "helped acquire" bomb making materials. [FBI guy] Hey, go to Home Depot and get some electrical tape and a box of nails. [/FBI guy] |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 12:34:04 PM EDT
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These cases are the absolute best bang for bucks in terms of time, resources, and effectiveness. These people could not do something mass destructive without help. I prefer that help to come from the FBI, not some actual bad guy. Remember someone willing to kill themselves just to murder innocent people is potentially only a bad break up, pink slip, or drug binge away from shooting up a school or government building <----something that doesn't help us very much. They like the sex appeal that comes along with being the next "terrorist" I'm not saying death penalty, but loony bin or prison is fine for me. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So he never actually had a real solid plan and did not actually have real explosives or the materials to create a bomb. I'm not trying to bash the FBI but I sometimes wonder if these cases where they provide inert explosives to guys who express a desire to cause harm aren't the FBI out trolling and they caught some retard with a big mouth and a little brain. Someone who otherwise never would have the smarts enough to actually pull something like this off. Granted there are truly dangerous people out there but the ones who to me are really dangerous would not be running their mouth. Maybe they did catch the next Timothy McVeigh, I don't know or did they just roll up Ricky the Retard. Just my thoughts when I see these cases. Again I'm not trying to FBI or LEO bash just thinking out loud. These cases are the absolute best bang for bucks in terms of time, resources, and effectiveness. These people could not do something mass destructive without help. I prefer that help to come from the FBI, not some actual bad guy. Remember someone willing to kill themselves just to murder innocent people is potentially only a bad break up, pink slip, or drug binge away from shooting up a school or government building <----something that doesn't help us very much. They like the sex appeal that comes along with being the next "terrorist" I'm not saying death penalty, but loony bin or prison is fine for me. No, they're not. They're purely to justify the FBI's budget, snooping through our emails, and the Patriot Act. There is no domestic threat to America outside of the FBI. They find people running their mouth on the interwebs - like right here on ARFCOM - and schmooze them, and then set them up. And the FBI does this REPEATEDLY - more often than BATFE sells guns to Mexican drug lords. This is repeated entrapment, and if you keep parroting this bullshit, you're shilling for them. |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 12:36:36 PM EDT
[#46]
Damn. I was just there last Wed and Friday.
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Posted: 12/13/2013 12:38:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Building a new terminal here. Next year might be 60 people. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I'm sure all 30 of the people who use that airport are greatly relieved. Building a new terminal here. Next year might be 60 people. Couldn't tell you how many times I've seen college teams, school bands and such arriving/departing when I've flown from Mid-Continent. I'm sure some whack-job would just love to go down as the guy who took out a group like that. |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 12:42:16 PM EDT
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We're concerned at your lack of caring for people that might have been hurt had this plan succeeded, which includes a little more than 30 people. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm sure all 30 of the people who use that airport are greatly relieved. I'm sure a lot of the servicemembers that fly in and out of ICT are relieved, yes. I am unconcerned about your outrage. The joke stands. We're concerned at your lack of caring for people that might have been hurt had this plan succeeded, which includes a little more than 30 people. What do you mean, "we"? You got a outraged mouse in your pocket? You're the only one I see getting butt-hurt. I remain unconcerned. Lighten up Francis, it's just GD. |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 12:43:26 PM EDT
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I read the story from the link on Drudge. I love how they explicitly point out he was white.
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Posted: 12/13/2013 12:47:40 PM EDT
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No, they're not. They're purely to justify the FBI's budget, snooping through our emails, and the Patriot Act. There is no domestic threat to America outside of the FBI. They find people running their mouth on the interwebs - like right here on ARFCOM - and schmooze them, and then set them up. And the FBI does this REPEATEDLY - more often than BATFE sells guns to Mexican drug lords. This is repeated entrapment, and if you keep parroting this bullshit, you're shilling for them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So he never actually had a real solid plan and did not actually have real explosives or the materials to create a bomb. I'm not trying to bash the FBI but I sometimes wonder if these cases where they provide inert explosives to guys who express a desire to cause harm aren't the FBI out trolling and they caught some retard with a big mouth and a little brain. Someone who otherwise never would have the smarts enough to actually pull something like this off. Granted there are truly dangerous people out there but the ones who to me are really dangerous would not be running their mouth. Maybe they did catch the next Timothy McVeigh, I don't know or did they just roll up Ricky the Retard. Just my thoughts when I see these cases. Again I'm not trying to FBI or LEO bash just thinking out loud. These cases are the absolute best bang for bucks in terms of time, resources, and effectiveness. These people could not do something mass destructive without help. I prefer that help to come from the FBI, not some actual bad guy. Remember someone willing to kill themselves just to murder innocent people is potentially only a bad break up, pink slip, or drug binge away from shooting up a school or government building <----something that doesn't help us very much. They like the sex appeal that comes along with being the next "terrorist" I'm not saying death penalty, but loony bin or prison is fine for me. No, they're not. They're purely to justify the FBI's budget, snooping through our emails, and the Patriot Act. There is no domestic threat to America outside of the FBI. They find people running their mouth on the interwebs - like right here on ARFCOM - and schmooze them, and then set them up. And the FBI does this REPEATEDLY - more often than BATFE sells guns to Mexican drug lords. This is repeated entrapment, and if you keep parroting this bullshit, you're shilling for them. Please define shilling for me. And yes they are the most cost effective, as well as infringing on as few rights as possible. I'm sorry that I support rolling up people who want to murder American civilians. |
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