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Posted: 3/10/2012 1:22:38 PM EST
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This kid saved up to buy it & was proud to have it. Then he bought some overloaded garbage ammo at the gun show today & blew up his gun. The shooter didn't have a scratch on him amazingly.







It doesn't look like much can be salvaged from this gun.
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Posted: 3/10/2012 1:23:38 PM EST
Damn.
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Posted: 3/10/2012 1:24:35 PM EST
I.........I.......... I just teared up
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Flavor of said "garbage ammo" ?
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Posted: 3/10/2012 1:25:53 PM EST
Factory ammo or load your own...

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Posted: 3/10/2012 1:26:04 PM EST
Only reloads I shoot are my own. I don't even shoot factory ammo anymore because I'm afraid of that 1 in 1,000,000.
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Posted: 3/10/2012 1:26:22 PM EST
Reloads, same as every other gun i have ever seen blow up. Why the fuck do people shoot reloads they don't make themselves?
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Sucks for the gun, and the kid. Yeah, he shoulda bought better ammo, but he achieved a goal he set out for himself. Damn.
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Whats the matter with it bent operating rod ?
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Wow.
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Posted: 3/10/2012 1:26:46 PM EST
Originally Posted By 1srelluc:
Flavor of said "garbage ammo" ?


It was stuff made for use in the 3006 fn49 way to much pressure for a garand, I guess garbage was the wrong word to use.
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Posted: 3/10/2012 1:28:07 PM EST

Originally Posted By vengarr:
Reloads, same as every other gun i have ever seen blow up. Why the fuck do people shoot reloads they don't make themselves?

I shoot my buddy's reloads. But he's been reloading for 30 years.
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What's wrong with you? A Paki gunsmith would have that fixed by Monday!


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Posted: 3/10/2012 1:28:23 PM EST
OMFG

I'm going to go hug my Garands right now.

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Posted: 3/10/2012 1:28:42 PM EST
It sucks for the kid to save up for a rifle and have it all gone in one trigger pull
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Posted: 3/10/2012 1:29:44 PM EST

Originally Posted By Mech2007:

What s wrong with you? A Paki gunsmith would gave that fixed by Monday!



Green Tape embargo makes that impossible.
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Posted: 3/10/2012 1:30:14 PM EST
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Posted: 3/10/2012 1:30:23 PM EST
Damn!

Folks just gotta know the mighty Garand was made to function with a specific load. M2 ball or the very next best thing loaded to that formula.

If you use commercial 30-06 or gunpowder that aint for the Garand, you will eventually get a broken op-rod or even a kaboom.

That sucks, but maybe there are salvagable parts to save it....
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Posted: 3/10/2012 1:31:21 PM EST
Originally Posted By Mech2007:

What s wrong with you? A Paki gunsmith would gave that fixed by Monday!




No need to go crazy. 100 mile an hour tape and some CLP should do it.
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Posted: 3/10/2012 1:33:09 PM EST
Wow, that really sucks.
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Posted: 3/10/2012 1:35:54 PM EST
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Need way more details.


eta Such as USGI receiver or CIA aftermarket crapshoot receiver? Weight of projectile? Are all of the parts ruined?

Looks like a grenade went off.


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Posted: 3/10/2012 1:36:30 PM EST
I would be paying that vendor a visit.

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Posted: 3/10/2012 1:37:39 PM EST
That's just sad.
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Posted: 3/10/2012 1:40:01 PM EST

Originally Posted By pighelmet:
I would be paying that vendor a visit.


Honestly, it should be up to the owner of the gun to know best what to feed it.

IMHO. Too bad about the instant firewood.
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Posted: 3/10/2012 1:40:19 PM EST
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For all its weight and clunkyness it is actually a rather fragile weapon as far as ammo is concerned. I'm curious what a round of Hornady SuperFormance would do to one.
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Originally Posted By AKengineer:
For all its weight and clunkyness it is actually a rather fragile weapon as far as ammo is concerned. I'm curious what a round of Hornady SuperFormance would do to one.

Blasphemy!!!

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Posted: 3/10/2012 1:42:33 PM EST
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Stupid is as stupid does. CMP has M2 ball for .50 cents a round, works out to a whopping $8.00 a box.
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Real USGI Garand or new one?
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Posted: 3/10/2012 1:45:07 PM EST

Originally Posted By pighelmet:
I would be paying that vendor a visit.


What....a kaboomed Garrand ennema?

It could be that if the kid had known not to use modern loads he wouldn't have had the KB.

Hell, the ammo vendor may have even warned him: if the kid told him what he was gonna shoot it in.

Personally, I don't shoot anybody else's reloads.
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Posted: 3/10/2012 1:45:30 PM EST
Gun show reloads... wow, the kid saved to have a beauty like that but couldn't afford the proper ammunition. I'd strangle the gun show vendor if I didn't know that was a dangerous combination to begin with.

I'm not a reloader, don't profess to be an ammo or Garand expert - which is why I buy ammo new. I've never owned or even shot a Garand - but even I heard that you have to be careful and shoot the right ammo for a Garand, preferably from the CMP (at least that's what I would do).

Did he have Garand insurance?
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In before the Glock shit starts.


You know that if it was a Glock it would be the guns fault.
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Posted: 3/10/2012 1:46:51 PM EST
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Factory ammo or load your own...

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Posted: 3/10/2012 1:49:35 PM EST
How many other calibers are there that have so many different variations, it can function in one gun, and blow up in another?

If I went and bought me a 30-06 rifle, I would assume that 30-06 ammo would work in it. Not a SPECIFIC 30-06 ammo.
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Originally Posted By hondaciv:
How many other calibers are there that have so many different variations, it can function in one gun, and blow up in another?

If I went and bought me a 30-06 rifle, I would assume that 30-06 ammo would work in it. Not a SPECIFIC 30-06 ammo.


The rifle was built around the M2 ball round. Not vice versa

Developed during the depression, there was like a bizillion rounds of M2 around; didn't make sense(fiscal) to develop something of a different caliber.
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Originally Posted By hondaciv:
How many other calibers are there that have so many different variations, it can function in one gun, and blow up in another?

If I went and bought me a 30-06 rifle, I would assume that 30-06 ammo would work in it. Not a SPECIFIC 30-06 ammo.

Probably the one case I know of where off the shelf factory ammo will KB a gun. I would count .45-70 but all the stuff I've seen that might cause a KB has "do not use in older guns" written all over it about 20 times.
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Originally Posted By hondaciv:
How many other calibers are there that have so many different variations, it can function in one gun, and blow up in another?

If I went and bought me a 30-06 rifle, I would assume that 30-06 ammo would work in it. Not a SPECIFIC 30-06 ammo.
.45 Colt and .45-70 government are two that come to mind.

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thats a fuckin shame , glad the kids ok
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Aren't there adjustable gas plugs (or something like that) for the M1 that help avoid precisely this?
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Posted: 3/10/2012 2:00:34 PM EST
Originally Posted By operatorerror:
Need way more details.


eta Such as USGI receiver or CIA aftermarket crapshoot receiver? Weight of projectile? Are all of the parts ruined?

Looks like a grenade went off.




It was originally a cmp gun that one of our customers put on consignment. We sold a h&r and a Springfield for the guy, this gun was one of those. I didn't bother to look at what specific gun it was, I just snapped the pics real quick before I left.


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Posted: 3/10/2012 2:00:39 PM EST
why even bring that into a store. its sad but it looks like trash to me.

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why even bring that into a store. its sad but it looks like trash to me.


He wanted to see if we could do something for him, but I don't think we can do much. The gun blew up because of the ammo, we even told him when he bought it to shoot the m2 ammo only. Whats sad is for what he payed for the gun show ammo he could have bought a can of m2 thats already in clips from us for like $20 more.
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and thats why I don't buy reloads
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