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Link Posted: 12/7/2010 12:50:30 PM EDT
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I'd actually be very happy if I found out that welfare folks were spending their money on healthy food.



You can buy healthy without buying shit like this. Do you feel awesome knowing that you paid for a food stamp user to utilize funds like this? Its shameful that a fuck on welfare can eat better than most college kids.


You could eat just like the OP - and have the same problem as the OP when the (monthly) money runs out.

Brian


Certainly a good point. However, I am careful with my money because I already eat like shit as it is. I figure eating anything is better than nothing. I suspect that this OP has more fundage than just the foodstamps though.

ETA Page 3 Ownage.
Link Posted: 12/7/2010 12:50:41 PM EDT
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I need to find these homies selling their cards for $0.50/$1.00.  Could put that to use.


Or you could find a location that decides to sell the aforementioned cigs, porn mags, and alcohol and use a food stamp card for that. I am just appalled at the fact that stores do this kind of stuff.


People will find a way to game any system..........  It's human nature (could be read as capitalism at its finest......)

Brian

Link Posted: 12/7/2010 12:52:06 PM EDT
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I need to find these homies selling their cards for $0.50/$1.00.  Could put that to use.


Or you could find a location that decides to sell the aforementioned cigs, porn mags, and alcohol and use a food stamp card for that. I am just appalled at the fact that stores do this kind of stuff.


People will find a way to game any system..........  It's human nature (could be read as capitalism at its finest......)

Brian



Certainly true. I find the fact that getting around stuff is indeed capitalism at its best. But I do not believe the government should be involved in this at all, let private organizations, and churches take care of this.What this creates is a class of people who want to get more benefits so it skews their voting habits.
Link Posted: 12/7/2010 12:52:12 PM EDT
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Unless they zig zagged and backtracked their 'first, second' third and next' items were not in that order.

The local Central Market isVegetables, then fruits, then meat, then wine, then dairy, then bread, then cheese, then cafe....

TRG
The fact that TRG knows this in such detail....



FWIW, When I lived in SoCal, Whole Foods had lots of gays in it




Still does. In fact it's a gay mecca. That and the apple store.



Is there point to your observation?  Gays gotta eat and have their gadgets just like straight folks.....

Brian
Link Posted: 12/7/2010 12:52:45 PM EDT
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I really don't know why I read this shit, it just makes my blood pressure go up.
Link Posted: 12/7/2010 12:53:42 PM EDT
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I'd actually be very happy if I found out that welfare folks were spending their money on healthy food.



You can buy healthy without buying shit like this. Do you feel awesome knowing that you paid for a food stamp user to utilize funds like this? Its shameful that a fuck on welfare can eat better than most college kids.


You could eat just like the OP - and have the same problem as the OP when the (monthly) money runs out.

Brian


Really?  I can blow other people's cash on gourmet mushrooms?

ETA:  I'll take a pound of morels, since you're buying.
Link Posted: 12/7/2010 12:54:07 PM EDT
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This is why they should get rid of food stamps altogether.

Since you can't "let people starve" bring back the 5-pound blocks of government cheese - make them come to a government dispensary once a month to pick it up.


yup. a gov food location, that only carries staples. rice, beans, powered milk, dehydrated potato flakes, dehydrated eggs, etc. ..... save everyone a ton of $$.


And add to the .gov employment rolls............

Brian

Link Posted: 12/7/2010 12:57:52 PM EDT
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That pisses me off...
Link Posted: 12/7/2010 12:58:36 PM EDT
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http://dailycaller.com/2010/12/07/thedc-investigation-what-i-was-able-to-buy-with-my-food-stamps/#ixzz17QIPDJfk

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What can you buy with food stamps? Pretty much anything sold in a grocery store, other than tobacco, booze and hot food. To find out what that really means, I took my November stipend to Whole Foods, a pricey organic food emporium that is as much a yuppie metaphor as it is a supermarket.

My first stop was the seafood counter, where I found the thickest swordfish steak I could, which at $18.99 per pound also turned out to be the most expensive item in the department. Then I headed to the coffee section, where I dropped $11.99 for a pound of fresh roasted beans.

From there, the milk aisle, where $8 bought a half gallon of pure organic goat’s milk. Nearby was the cheese section, where I found a tiny wedge of fancy-looking cheese from some European city I’ve never heard of and threw it my cart.

Last I hit the produce section, where I discovered a small but tasty-looking container of Chanterelle mushrooms. Price? $13.99, plus tax.

At the checkout line, I whipped out my shiny new Electronic Benefits Transfer card and watched the cashier ring up my order. The total (minus the cheese, which I discarded at the last moment) came to $51.10. Not bad for a gourmet meal, especially since I wasn’t paying for it.

I worked at a grocery store in high school and college.  I saw a lot of filet mignon and lobster purchased with food stamps.  The same people often bought beer, cigarettes, and large bags of dog food with cash.
 


As did I. I would get extremely irritated when certain inidviduals would come in and purchase groceries with food stamps and then immediately buy a 30 pack of beer and a carton of cigarettes in cash.
Link Posted: 12/7/2010 1:04:36 PM EDT
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Unless they zig zagged and backtracked their 'first, second' third and next' items were not in that order.



The local Central Market isVegetables, then fruits, then meat, then wine, then dairy, then bread, then cheese, then cafe....



TRG
The fact that TRG knows this in such detail....







FWIW, When I lived in SoCal, Whole Foods had lots of gays in it
This surprises you why?





 
Link Posted: 12/7/2010 1:17:07 PM EDT
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If the .GOV dictated exactly WHAT everyone had to buy, (like Cuba) then all the "Big Brother" worriers would be screaming we had fallen to Communism / Facism...

If someone blows their allocated food assistance money on very top shelf stuff, they may dine very well (for a couple of days), but the following weeks with nothing to eat will be hell!

This is just a lot of hot air about nothing different.  We all have to decide how to allocate our choices, and this is no different.


The .gov wouldn't be dictating because the recipient would have an option - eat what we give you, go hungry, or find another way to pay for it.

If the Army can give you a meal consisting of; 2 pieces of bread, 1 piece of cheese, 1 piece of baloney, 1 piece of fruit, & 1 6-ounce can of juice;

Then why should some fat ghetto rat be treated any differently?


So You want the .GOV to dictate the exact brand, size of container, flavor, of packaged foods?  Isn't .GOV already bloated and in our lives enough without something like trying to make it fit all?

Regional differences (I'd love to make yankees eat healthy TX foods with Jalapeno's, Picante, Salsa Verde) family differences (need foods specific for 7 year olds or 70 year olds) and the like.   Also then you dictate what every store has to carry.   So what if the local store doesn't carry the .GOV brands (sorry you can't have milk because we don't sell the only .GOV approved brand or size)  

This article is just some low sh!t I'd expect of Rush Limbaugh or the like.

I'm conservative, but that means getting the .GOV out of our lives as much as possible.  If someone get approved for aid, then we really don't want to have the .GOV micromanaging it.

Control of who really qualifies for aid is an open matter.   Once qualified for the aid, keep the .GOV out with some strong but basic guidelines (no booze, no cigarettes, no soda, etc...),


It's not difficult to be qualified for a welfare card. So you want NO restrictons for how welfare money is used? You don't care at all if your tax dollars go to buy lobster, candy bars, and Red Bulls?



This thread is almost as dumb as the "person on welfare has more money than person earning 60k".  If you go out and buy lobster with food stamps, you aren't going to be feeding yourself very long.  This "article", is a hit piece intended to stir up people that believe food stamps can catapult someone into a perpetual fine dining lifestyle.

If you're against government intervention in our lives, which conservatives are supposed to stand for, that should be across the board.  It seems to be that certain people are just fine and dandy with government intrusion, as long as it's not their rights being violated.  More specifically, if it's the rights of the poor, they seem to be all for it.

Some people cannot grasp the fact that there is no such thing as a perfect welfare system.  Every system will have it's pros and cons.  We need to scale ours down some, but I certainly don't want the government telling people what they can and can't buy.  If it's in a grocery store, I don't care what they buy.


Since when do the poor have the right to dine on lobster that was paid for with money taken from somebody else?

You're talking nonsense and completely missing the point.

If a poor person uses their food stamps to buy lobster then they are going to eat good for one night and then spend the rest of the month starving.

 


No they won't. If they can afford lobster at all then they are being given too much money to begin with.

Even if they did run out of "benefits" before the end of the month they still wouldn't go hungry - they would buy food for cash or they would go to a soup kitchen for another handout.

You don't turn into a big fat slob by going hungry.


Considering that you can buy lobster pieces for $15 (the article doesn't dictate whether or not it's a whole lobster), I guess you think that people on welfare should be given 3 or 4 dollars a month for food?
Link Posted: 12/7/2010 1:17:54 PM EDT
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It's not like that card is an unlimited bottomless pit.

Sure, you can buy that stuff and eat well....today.

But what about next week?

If you spend like that with food stamps, you'll starve 3 weeks out of the month.

This is just pot stirring.



That's what church food banks are for.  Believe me, they know how to work it.  And they go from one church to the next, to get stuff from all of them.  Churches around here organized to combine buying power (food by the pallet is cheaper, etc.) and to decrease fraud and abuse.  
Link Posted: 12/7/2010 1:20:06 PM EDT
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If the .GOV dictated exactly WHAT everyone had to buy, (like Cuba) then all the "Big Brother" worriers would be screaming we had fallen to Communism / Facism...



If someone blows their allocated food assistance money on very top shelf stuff, they may dine very well (for a couple of days), but the following weeks with nothing to eat will be hell!



This is just a lot of hot air about nothing different.  We all have to decide how to allocate our choices, and this is no different.




The .gov wouldn't be dictating because the recipient would have an option - eat what we give you, go hungry, or find another way to pay for it.



If the Army can give you a meal consisting of; 2 pieces of bread, 1 piece of cheese, 1 piece of baloney, 1 piece of fruit, & 1 6-ounce can of juice;



Then why should some fat ghetto rat be treated any differently?




So You want the .GOV to dictate the exact brand, size of container, flavor, of packaged foods?  Isn't .GOV already bloated and in our lives enough without something like trying to make it fit all?



Regional differences (I'd love to make yankees eat healthy TX foods with Jalapeno's, Picante, Salsa Verde) family differences (need foods specific for 7 year olds or 70 year olds) and the like.   Also then you dictate what every store has to carry.   So what if the local store doesn't carry the .GOV brands (sorry you can't have milk because we don't sell the only .GOV approved brand or size)  



This article is just some low sh!t I'd expect of Rush Limbaugh or the like.



I'm conservative, but that means getting the .GOV out of our lives as much as possible.  If someone get approved for aid, then we really don't want to have the .GOV micromanaging it.



Control of who really qualifies for aid is an open matter.   Once qualified for the aid, keep the .GOV out with some strong but basic guidelines (no booze, no cigarettes, no soda, etc...),





It's not difficult to be qualified for a welfare card. So you want NO restrictons for how welfare money is used? You don't care at all if your tax dollars go to buy lobster, candy bars, and Red Bulls?







This thread is almost as dumb as the "person on welfare has more money than person earning 60k".  If you go out and buy lobster with food stamps, you aren't going to be feeding yourself very long.  This "article", is a hit piece intended to stir up people that believe food stamps can catapult someone into a perpetual fine dining lifestyle.



If you're against government intervention in our lives, which conservatives are supposed to stand for, that should be across the board.  It seems to be that certain people are just fine and dandy with government intrusion, as long as it's not their rights being violated.  More specifically, if it's the rights of the poor, they seem to be all for it.



Some people cannot grasp the fact that there is no such thing as a perfect welfare system.  Every system will have it's pros and cons.  We need to scale ours down some, but I certainly don't want the government telling people what they can and can't buy.  If it's in a grocery store, I don't care what they buy.




Since when do the poor have the right to dine on lobster that was paid for with money taken from somebody else?


You're talking nonsense and completely missing the point.



If a poor person uses their food stamps to buy lobster then they are going to eat good for one night and then spend the rest of the month starving.



 




No they won't. If they can afford lobster at all then they are being given too much money to begin with.



Even if they did run out of "benefits" before the end of the month they still wouldn't go hungry - they would buy food for cash or they would go to a soup kitchen for another handout.



You don't turn into a big fat slob by going hungry.


Like I said, nonsense.



You're taking one extreme example of something that one person did and making a blanket statement about everyone based off of that one incident.



People on food stamps generally don't go around buying sword fish and goat's milk.



 
Link Posted: 12/7/2010 1:21:38 PM EDT
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Now I'm angry....and hungry.


Fuuuuuuuuu.
Link Posted: 12/7/2010 1:27:38 PM EDT
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Most of the people I know sale them for .50 on the dollar and buy booze and drugs with it.


Somebody I know has been known to buy them for .50 on the dollar.....
Link Posted: 12/7/2010 1:28:18 PM EDT
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Is this what the Dept of Homeland Security considers "crime" and a reportable offense at the supermarket?
Link Posted: 12/7/2010 1:29:00 PM EDT
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Most of the people I know sale them for .50 on the dollar and buy booze and drugs with it.


Yup
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amazing all the assholes that would try to trade them for  their pawn tickets  and car payments

this was back in the day of paper ones
how do they do it with the EBT card ?

 


Get the PIN and then retirn the card. Suck for them when you spend more than you paid for. F*ck 'em.

Link Posted: 12/7/2010 1:31:02 PM EDT
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It's not like that card is an unlimited bottomless pit.

Sure, you can buy that stuff and eat well....today.

But what about next week?

If you spend like that with food stamps, you'll starve 3 weeks out of the month.

This is just pot stirring.


Link Posted: 12/7/2010 1:52:14 PM EDT
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http://dailycaller.com/2010/12/07/thedc-investigation-what-i-was-able-to-buy-with-my-food-stamps/#ixzz17QIPDJfk

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What can you buy with food stamps? Pretty much anything sold in a grocery store, other than tobacco, booze and hot food. To find out what that really means, I took my November stipend to Whole Foods, a pricey organic food emporium that is as much a yuppie metaphor as it is a supermarket.

My first stop was the seafood counter, where I found the thickest swordfish steak I could, which at $18.99 per pound also turned out to be the most expensive item in the department. Then I headed to the coffee section, where I dropped $11.99 for a pound of fresh roasted beans.
you're welcome  glad you can afford internet
From there, the milk aisle, where $8 bought a half gallon of pure organic goat’s milk. Nearby was the cheese section, where I found a tiny wedge of fancy-looking cheese from some European city I’ve never heard of and threw it my cart.

Last I hit the produce section, where I discovered a small but tasty-looking container of Chanterelle mushrooms. Price? $13.99, plus tax.

At the checkout line, I whipped out my shiny new Electronic Benefits Transfer card and watched the cashier ring up my order. The total (minus the cheese, which I discarded at the last moment) came to $51.10. Not bad for a gourmet meal, especially since I wasn’t paying for it.


Link Posted: 12/7/2010 1:56:37 PM EDT
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I was at the grocery one time and the seedy looking guy in front of me had several cans of dog food that the checker wouldn't allow on his food stamps.
I had to wait while he took them back and got some steaks instead. He just made the comment that his dog was going to eat good tonight.
Link Posted: 12/7/2010 2:05:35 PM EDT
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Good thing he doesn't need food stamps to eat, or else he'd starve.




Link Posted: 12/7/2010 2:06:02 PM EDT
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This is why they should get rid of food stamps altogether.

Since you can't "let people starve" bring back the 5-pound blocks of government cheese - make them come to a government dispensary once a month to pick it up.


yup. a gov food location, that only carries staples. rice, beans, powered milk, dehydrated potato flakes, dehydrated eggs, etc. ..... save everyone a ton of $$.


And add to the .gov employment rolls............

Brian



No, let the existing .gov employees do it.

Assign every claimant a DMV office based on their address of record. On the first of every month, from 0800-1200, you take 2 DMV clerks off their regular line & assign them to identifying claimants & passing out the taxpayer funded gifts.  

(If you want the feds to do it - I bet if the pickup point was the local DHS/ICE/Customs office a lot of people would immediately stop collecting.)
Link Posted: 12/7/2010 2:07:37 PM EDT
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i dont see the problem with being able to use the allocated funds to buy quality food.  all it means in that the money runs out that much sooner and you go hungry the rest of the month...
Link Posted: 12/7/2010 2:09:45 PM EDT
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Most of the people I know sale them for .50 on the dollar and buy booze and drugs with it.


Yup


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Link Posted: 12/7/2010 2:13:03 PM EDT
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If the .GOV dictated exactly WHAT everyone had to buy, (like Cuba) then all the "Big Brother" worriers would be screaming we had fallen to Communism / Facism...

If someone blows their allocated food assistance money on very top shelf stuff, they may dine very well (for a couple of days), but the following weeks with nothing to eat will be hell!

This is just a lot of hot air about nothing different.  We all have to decide how to allocate our choices, and this is no different.


The .gov wouldn't be dictating because the recipient would have an option - eat what we give you, go hungry, or find another way to pay for it.

If the Army can give you a meal consisting of; 2 pieces of bread, 1 piece of cheese, 1 piece of baloney, 1 piece of fruit, & 1 6-ounce can of juice;

Then why should some fat ghetto rat be treated any differently?


So You want the .GOV to dictate the exact brand, size of container, flavor, of packaged foods?  Isn't .GOV already bloated and in our lives enough without something like trying to make it fit all?

Regional differences (I'd love to make yankees eat healthy TX foods with Jalapeno's, Picante, Salsa Verde) family differences (need foods specific for 7 year olds or 70 year olds) and the like.   Also then you dictate what every store has to carry.   So what if the local store doesn't carry the .GOV brands (sorry you can't have milk because we don't sell the only .GOV approved brand or size)  

This article is just some low sh!t I'd expect of Rush Limbaugh or the like.

I'm conservative, but that means getting the .GOV out of our lives as much as possible.  If someone get approved for aid, then we really don't want to have the .GOV micromanaging it.

Control of who really qualifies for aid is an open matter.   Once qualified for the aid, keep the .GOV out with some strong but basic guidelines (no booze, no cigarettes, no soda, etc...),


It's not difficult to be qualified for a welfare card. So you want NO restrictons for how welfare money is used? You don't care at all if your tax dollars go to buy lobster, candy bars, and Red Bulls?



This thread is almost as dumb as the "person on welfare has more money than person earning 60k".  If you go out and buy lobster with food stamps, you aren't going to be feeding yourself very long.  This "article", is a hit piece intended to stir up people that believe food stamps can catapult someone into a perpetual fine dining lifestyle.

If you're against government intervention in our lives, which conservatives are supposed to stand for, that should be across the board.  It seems to be that certain people are just fine and dandy with government intrusion, as long as it's not their rights being violated.  More specifically, if it's the rights of the poor, they seem to be all for it.

Some people cannot grasp the fact that there is no such thing as a perfect welfare system.  Every system will have it's pros and cons.  We need to scale ours down some, but I certainly don't want the government telling people what they can and can't buy.  If it's in a grocery store, I don't care what they buy.


Since when do the poor have the right to dine on lobster that was paid for with money taken from somebody else?

You're talking nonsense and completely missing the point.

If a poor person uses their food stamps to buy lobster then they are going to eat good for one night and then spend the rest of the month starving.

 


No they won't. If they can afford lobster at all then they are being given too much money to begin with.

Even if they did run out of "benefits" before the end of the month they still wouldn't go hungry - they would buy food for cash or they would go to a soup kitchen for another handout.

You don't turn into a big fat slob by going hungry.


Considering that you can buy lobster pieces for $15 (the article doesn't dictate whether or not it's a whole lobster), I guess you think that people on welfare should be given 3 or 4 dollars a month for food?



The OP article specifically says the person spend $51.10 on one meal.

Then he found out a few days later that his unused balance carried over to the next month - that means they are being given too much.
Link Posted: 12/7/2010 2:13:21 PM EDT
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What will really piss you off is when they come in rack up $400 in groceries. Then buy 5 cases of beer and 3 cartons of cigarettes that pisses me the fuck off. Sick and tired of the fucking trash that pull this shit. Every time I see this happen I love speaking my mind and making it known to everyone around.

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Link Posted: 12/7/2010 2:16:17 PM EDT
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Not sure if serious.
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That aint bad....

Out here we got a pizza chain that will accept pesos for payment and NOW will actually sell you pizzas made fresh and you can pay for them with your foodstamp card.
Impossible because pizza is a "hot/prepared" food you say right? Well in this case they sell the pizza cold then offer to heat it up for you free of charge. So they can accept the Texas Lonestar card by selling unprepped meals...then warm it on the spot for free.




Every Rule has a Work Around...    Just goes to prove it!

Is this the "P P" place that caught the flak for taking Pesos?



Yes sir Pizza Patron out here, they have huge signs up at the stores proudly displaing "now accepting the texas lonestar card". Sickening really.

You from El Paso?


No, Austin.  Got at least one Pizza Patron over on the East Side (Vato City) that I used to pass taking my daughters to school
Link Posted: 12/7/2010 3:09:07 PM EDT
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What will really piss you off is when they come in rack up $400 in groceries. Then buy 5 cases of beer and 3 cartons of cigarettes that pisses me the fuck off. Sick and tired of the fucking trash that pull this shit. Every time I see this happen I love speaking my mind and making it known to everyone around.

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Watched a thug pay for $300 worth of groceries with an EBT card, then paid cash for $100 + worth of alcohol. Wheeled his buggy out to a $50,000 Escalade, loaded his free food and drove off. Scumbag was so sorry he left the buggy in the parking space next to his. Total blood pressure check as I had just finished a 60 hour week.
EBT cards were supposed to stop the fraud, it just is accomplished differently. I say give out cheese, powdered milk, beans, canned meats. Kinda hard to trade 10 lbs of flour for crack and weed. This would help our farmers too.
Link Posted: 12/7/2010 3:12:24 PM EDT
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If the .GOV dictated exactly WHAT everyone had to buy, (like Cuba) then all the "Big Brother" worriers would be screaming we had fallen to Communism / Facism...

If someone blows their allocated food assistance money on very top shelf stuff, they may dine very well (for a couple of days), but the following weeks with nothing to eat will be hell!

This is just a lot of hot air about nothing different.  We all have to decide how to allocate our choices, and this is no different.


The .gov wouldn't be dictating because the recipient would have an option - eat what we give you, go hungry, or find another way to pay for it.

If the Army can give you a meal consisting of; 2 pieces of bread, 1 piece of cheese, 1 piece of baloney, 1 piece of fruit, & 1 6-ounce can of juice;

Then why should some fat ghetto rat be treated any differently?


So You want the .GOV to dictate the exact brand, size of container, flavor, of packaged foods?  Isn't .GOV already bloated and in our lives enough without something like trying to make it fit all?

Regional differences (I'd love to make yankees eat healthy TX foods with Jalapeno's, Picante, Salsa Verde) family differences (need foods specific for 7 year olds or 70 year olds) and the like.   Also then you dictate what every store has to carry.   So what if the local store doesn't carry the .GOV brands (sorry you can't have milk because we don't sell the only .GOV approved brand or size)  

This article is just some low sh!t I'd expect of Rush Limbaugh or the like.

I'm conservative, but that means getting the .GOV out of our lives as much as possible.  If someone get approved for aid, then we really don't want to have the .GOV micromanaging it.

Control of who really qualifies for aid is an open matter.   Once qualified for the aid, keep the .GOV out with some strong but basic guidelines (no booze, no cigarettes, no soda, etc...),


If the taxpayer is supplying your "aid" then the taxpayer has every right to tell you what form that "aid" may take. Don't like it, then don't take the "aid."
Link Posted: 12/7/2010 3:28:04 PM EDT
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I remember working at some gas stations,  People would ask if we take food stamps or wic, I would say no so thay proceeded to pull out a wad of cash to pay me.
Link Posted: 12/7/2010 3:50:19 PM EDT
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Most of the people I know sale them for .50 on the dollar and buy booze and drugs with it.


Yup
yeah
amazing all the assholes that would try to trade them for  their pawn tickets  and car payments

this was back in the day of paper ones
how do they do it with the EBT card ?

 

Among other methods I've heard that less than honest convenience stores are happy to ring you up a $50 purchase of groceries and give you $25 in return.  
Don't know how common it is but it seems believeable.
Link Posted: 12/7/2010 3:59:39 PM EDT
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Most of the people I know sale them for .50 on the dollar and buy booze and drugs with it.


Someone tried to sell me one the other day. I told them to get fucked.

My friend bought it.

We all ate steak that night and he told me how he bought the meal, I was kinda pissed.
Link Posted: 12/7/2010 4:11:59 PM EDT
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Most of the people I know sale them for .50 on the dollar and buy booze and drugs with it.


Someone tried to sell me one the other day. I told them to get fucked.

My friend bought it.

We all ate steak that night and he told me how he bought the meal, I was kinda pissed.


Ya'lls money.  
Link Posted: 12/7/2010 4:14:24 PM EDT
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So this what my tax dollars buy for the moochers...


Not all are moochers. MANY have paid into the 'system' for decades and now, without jobs, find themselves needing to feed families.

Let's make sure we distinguish them for the folks that have NEVER paid into the system. Those are the mooches.

Carry on.
Link Posted: 12/7/2010 4:25:53 PM EDT
[#36]
Yup. When I was a cashier in HS, they would come in, buy all sorts of random crap with their food stamps and cards, then ask for a carton of smokes and $50 worth of lotto tickets, and whip out a $100 bill.
Link Posted: 12/7/2010 4:56:26 PM EDT
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Unless they zig zagged and backtracked their 'first, second' third and next' items were not in that order.



The local Central Market isVegetables, then fruits, then meat, then wine, then dairy, then bread, then cheese, then cafe....



TRG
The fact that TRG knows this in such detail....







FWIW, When I lived in SoCal, Whole Foods had lots of gays in it


In fairness I can't think of many places to go in SoCal that isn't full of gays.



 
Link Posted: 12/7/2010 4:59:31 PM EDT
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I saw a woman into the local grocery store the other day purchase her allotment of welfare food, then take it outside and put it in the trunk of her 2009 Acura TL...........and here I am working my ass off, making my bills and I cant even afford an Acura..........


Did you ask to see the registration or did you run the plate and pull up her DL to confirm it was really her?

Brian

Link Posted: 12/7/2010 5:00:56 PM EDT
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I'd actually be very happy if I found out that welfare folks were spending their money on healthy food.



You can buy healthy without buying shit like this. Do you feel awesome knowing that you paid for a food stamp user to utilize funds like this? Its shameful that a fuck on welfare can eat better than most college kids.


You could eat just like the OP - and have the same problem as the OP when the (monthly) money runs out.

Brian


Really?  I can blow other people's cash on gourmet mushrooms?

ETA:  I'll take a pound of morels, since you're buying.


I'd be more inclined to buy you an ounce of "context".

Brian
Link Posted: 12/7/2010 5:02:26 PM EDT
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Unless they zig zagged and backtracked their 'first, second' third and next' items were not in that order.

The local Central Market isVegetables, then fruits, then meat, then wine, then dairy, then bread, then cheese, then cafe....

TRG
The fact that TRG knows this in such detail....



FWIW, When I lived in SoCal, Whole Foods had lots of gays in it

In fairness I can't think of many places to go in SoCal that isn't full of gays.
 




Link Posted: 12/7/2010 5:02:57 PM EDT
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Unless they zig zagged and backtracked their 'first, second' third and next' items were not in that order.

The local Central Market isVegetables, then fruits, then meat, then wine, then dairy, then bread, then cheese, then cafe....

TRG
The fact that TRG knows this in such detail....



FWIW, When I lived in SoCal, Whole Foods had lots of gays in it
This surprises you why?

 


If he'd said NorCal I'd understand......  Unless of course he meant Gaytonia in Long Beach (I lived in Long Beach and you literally can't miss the place).

Brian
Link Posted: 12/7/2010 5:18:52 PM EDT
[#42]
"the best way to make a man abandon his poverty is to make him uncomfortable in it." -Benjamin Franklin

stop food stamps, open soup kitchens, give them the cheapest, nutritional meal available. better yet, make them work for it, even if it's trivial stuff.
Link Posted: 12/7/2010 5:58:59 PM EDT
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If the .GOV dictated exactly WHAT everyone had to buy, (like Cuba) then all the "Big Brother" worriers would be screaming we had fallen to Communism / Facism...

If someone blows their allocated food assistance money on very top shelf stuff, they may dine very well (for a couple of days), but the following weeks with nothing to eat will be hell!

This is just a lot of hot air about nothing different.  We all have to decide how to allocate our choices, and this is no different.


The .gov wouldn't be dictating because the recipient would have an option - eat what we give you, go hungry, or find another way to pay for it.

If the Army can give you a meal consisting of; 2 pieces of bread, 1 piece of cheese, 1 piece of baloney, 1 piece of fruit, & 1 6-ounce can of juice;

Then why should some fat ghetto rat be treated any differently?


So You want the .GOV to dictate the exact brand, size of container, flavor, of packaged foods?  Isn't .GOV already bloated and in our lives enough without something like trying to make it fit all?

Regional differences (I'd love to make yankees eat healthy TX foods with Jalapeno's, Picante, Salsa Verde) family differences (need foods specific for 7 year olds or 70 year olds) and the like.   Also then you dictate what every store has to carry.   So what if the local store doesn't carry the .GOV brands (sorry you can't have milk because we don't sell the only .GOV approved brand or size)  

This article is just some low sh!t I'd expect of Rush Limbaugh or the like.

I'm conservative, but that means getting the .GOV out of our lives as much as possible.  If someone get approved for aid, then we really don't want to have the .GOV micromanaging it.

Control of who really qualifies for aid is an open matter.   Once qualified for the aid, keep the .GOV out with some strong but basic guidelines (no booze, no cigarettes, no soda, etc...),


It's not difficult to be qualified for a welfare card. So you want NO restrictons for how welfare money is used? You don't care at all if your tax dollars go to buy lobster, candy bars, and Red Bulls?



This thread is almost as dumb as the "person on welfare has more money than person earning 60k".  If you go out and buy lobster with food stamps, you aren't going to be feeding yourself very long.  This "article", is a hit piece intended to stir up people that believe food stamps can catapult someone into a perpetual fine dining lifestyle.

If you're against government intervention in our lives, which conservatives are supposed to stand for, that should be across the board.  It seems to be that certain people are just fine and dandy with government intrusion, as long as it's not their rights being violated.  More specifically, if it's the rights of the poor, they seem to be all for it.

Some people cannot grasp the fact that there is no such thing as a perfect welfare system.  Every system will have it's pros and cons.  We need to scale ours down some, but I certainly don't want the government telling people what they can and can't buy.  If it's in a grocery store, I don't care what they buy.


No one said that. The point is that you shouldn't be able to buy items like that using other people's money. If you can buy high dollar items or junk food, with no time limit for being on welfare, there is no motive to get off of it.  I'm gonna have to disagree with you, I don't see how some common sense rules for how welfare money is spent is government intrusion.
Link Posted: 12/7/2010 6:12:57 PM EDT
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If the .GOV dictated exactly WHAT everyone had to buy, (like Cuba) then all the "Big Brother" worriers would be screaming we had fallen to Communism / Facism...

If someone blows their allocated food assistance money on very top shelf stuff, they may dine very well (for a couple of days), but the following weeks with nothing to eat will be hell!

This is just a lot of hot air about nothing different.  We all have to decide how to allocate our choices, and this is no different.


The .gov wouldn't be dictating because the recipient would have an option - eat what we give you, go hungry, or find another way to pay for it.

If the Army can give you a meal consisting of; 2 pieces of bread, 1 piece of cheese, 1 piece of baloney, 1 piece of fruit, & 1 6-ounce can of juice;

Then why should some fat ghetto rat be treated any differently?


So You want the .GOV to dictate the exact brand, size of container, flavor, of packaged foods?  Isn't .GOV already bloated and in our lives enough without something like trying to make it fit all?

Regional differences (I'd love to make yankees eat healthy TX foods with Jalapeno's, Picante, Salsa Verde) family differences (need foods specific for 7 year olds or 70 year olds) and the like.   Also then you dictate what every store has to carry.   So what if the local store doesn't carry the .GOV brands (sorry you can't have milk because we don't sell the only .GOV approved brand or size)  

This article is just some low sh!t I'd expect of Rush Limbaugh or the like.

I'm conservative, but that means getting the .GOV out of our lives as much as possible.  If someone get approved for aid, then we really don't want to have the .GOV micromanaging it.

Control of who really qualifies for aid is an open matter.   Once qualified for the aid, keep the .GOV out with some strong but basic guidelines (no booze, no cigarettes, no soda, etc...),


It's not difficult to be qualified for a welfare card. So you want NO restrictons for how welfare money is used? You don't care at all if your tax dollars go to buy lobster, candy bars, and Red Bulls?



This thread is almost as dumb as the "person on welfare has more money than person earning 60k".  If you go out and buy lobster with food stamps, you aren't going to be feeding yourself very long.  This "article", is a hit piece intended to stir up people that believe food stamps can catapult someone into a perpetual fine dining lifestyle.

If you're against government intervention in our lives, which conservatives are supposed to stand for, that should be across the board.  It seems to be that certain people are just fine and dandy with government intrusion, as long as it's not their rights being violated.  More specifically, if it's the rights of the poor, they seem to be all for it.

Some people cannot grasp the fact that there is no such thing as a perfect welfare system.  Every system will have it's pros and cons.  We need to scale ours down some, but I certainly don't want the government telling people what they can and can't buy.  If it's in a grocery store, I don't care what they buy.


Since when do the poor have the right to dine on lobster that was paid for with money taken from somebody else?

You're talking nonsense and completely missing the point.

If a poor person uses their food stamps to buy lobster then they are going to eat good for one night and then spend the rest of the month starving.

 


Eh, not all the time. I have two inlaws on " teh stamps". One gets $660 per month for her and two kids. The other gets over $800 for her her husband and three little kids. They frequently have rib eye steaks, salmon, halibut, as well as truckloads of junk food every month.
Link Posted: 12/7/2010 6:14:38 PM EDT
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So this what my tax dollars buy for the moochers...


And some here applaud them for taking it.







 
Link Posted: 12/7/2010 6:24:34 PM EDT
[#46]
That's how it WORKS.............

AMERIKA..........WAT A KOUNTRY!!

Aloha, Mark
Link Posted: 12/7/2010 6:27:58 PM EDT
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This is why they should get rid of food stamps altogether.

Since you can't "let people starve" bring back the 5-pound blocks of government cheese - make them come to a government dispensary once a month to pick it up.


yup. a gov food location, that only carries staples. rice, beans, powered milk, dehydrated potato flakes, dehydrated eggs, etc. ..... save everyone a ton of $$.


And add to the .gov employment rolls............

Brian



The supermarker employes people.
The supermarket pays for electricity, water, gas, etc......(those industries employ people too)
The fisherman is employed.
The baker is employed.
The farmer is employed.
The guy who transports the stuff is employed.
Etc...........

See how it works?

THEY are doing US a favor. *In Government thinking.

Aloha, Mark

Link Posted: 12/7/2010 6:29:15 PM EDT
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This is why they should get rid of food stamps altogether.

Since you can't "let people starve" bring back the 5-pound blocks of government cheese - make them come to a government dispensary once a month to pick it up.


yup. a gov food location, that only carries staples. rice, beans, powered milk, dehydrated potato flakes, dehydrated eggs, etc. ..... save everyone a ton of $$.


Although i feel a little "commie" for thinking this, i like the above system alot better than the current one.

Of course, i would like to see the whole entitlement go out the window. Never going to happen though. I promise this country will be a burning pile of ashes before a food stamps (or a similar program)  are abolished. I would rather see a food welfare program that was only valid for real fucking food, and maybe even could use the bulk purchasing/ negotiation power of the .gov to save us a little goddamn money. I bet it would cost half of current costs to feed the same number of people, plus claims would go way down as the system would be harder to abuse (no fucking lobster, Doritos, or booze mixers )

That seems a little logical for the guberment though.
Link Posted: 12/7/2010 6:36:20 PM EDT
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This is why they should get rid of food stamps altogether.



Since you can't "let people starve" bring back the 5-pound blocks of government cheese - make them come to a government dispensary once a month to pick it up.




yup. a gov food location, that only carries staples. rice, beans, powered milk, dehydrated potato flakes, dehydrated eggs, etc. ..... save everyone a ton of $$.




Although i feel a little "commie" for thinking this, i like the above system alot better than the current one.



Of course, i would like to see the whole entitlement go out the window. Never going to happen though. I promise this country will be a burning pile of ashes before a food stamps (or a similar program)  are abolished. I would rather see a food welfare program that was only valid for real fucking food, and maybe even could use the bulk purchasing/ negotiation power of the .gov to save us a little goddamn money. I bet it would cost half of current costs to feed the same number of people, plus claims would go way down as the system would be harder to abuse (no fucking lobster, Doritos, or booze mixers )



That seems a little logical for the guberment though.


Too many people making decisions with their feelings got us into this mess.



 
Link Posted: 12/7/2010 6:37:08 PM EDT
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If the .GOV dictated exactly WHAT everyone had to buy, (like Cuba) then all the "Big Brother" worriers would be screaming we had fallen to Communism / Facism...

If someone blows their allocated food assistance money on very top shelf stuff, they may dine very well (for a couple of days), but the following weeks with nothing to eat will be hell!

This is just a lot of hot air about nothing different.  We all have to decide how to allocate our choices, and this is no different.


The .gov wouldn't be dictating because the recipient would have options - eat what we give you, go hungry, or find another way to pay for it.

If the Army can give you a meal consisting of; 2 pieces of bread, 1 piece of cheese, 1 piece of baloney, 1 piece of fruit, & 1 6-ounce can of juice;

Then why should some fat ghetto rat be treated any differently?


When you put it like that. WHY ARE THEY?!



Not Army, but I've never eaten that bad except out in the field... in garrison it's been pretty good pickings.

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