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Posted: 12/7/2010 11:09:05 AM EDT
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Any idea how much money the bank profits from this? I'm sure they are collecting millions from the taxpayer for administration. 
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Posted: 12/7/2010 11:11:53 AM EDT
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It's not difficult to be qualified for a welfare card. So you want NO restrictons for how welfare money is used? You don't care at all if your tax dollars go to buy lobster, candy bars, and Red Bulls? No, you are posing a false dichotomy. I do not want ANY welfare. If you subsidize someone's food budget, you allow them to spend the rest of their money as they wish. That may mean they buy nice clothes for a job interview; or it may mean they take their now disposable income out and buy crack rock. Hell, we could give out food instead of cash/EBT cards and people would still game the system by selling the .gov cheese to regular folks for pennies on the dollar. |
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Posted: 12/7/2010 11:15:31 AM EDT
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Any idea how much money the bank profits from this? I'm sure they are collecting millions from the taxpayer for administration. I don't see a problem with that. They were contracted to provide a service for the government. It's the government program I don't agree with. JP Morgan isn't doing anything different than Colt or Knight's Armament, who are profiting off taxpayer money to supply the military. |
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Posted: 12/7/2010 11:17:00 AM EDT
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Any idea how much money the bank profits from this? I'm sure they are collecting millions from the taxpayer for administration. That's a good question, I cant find anything from a quick Google search. |
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Posted: 12/7/2010 11:17:11 AM EDT
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I process Point of Sale transaction logs for a living and what I see every day makes me sick. Hundreds of $$ spent on pop, chips, steak, lobster, etc. instead of staple foods.
If I could do one thing in my life it would be to model the Food Stamp program after WIC. You would get 80% lean hamburger, chicken (only hindquarters or breasts not skinned), cheese, 1% milk, and bread. No steak, lobster, or any other expensive food that I can't afford to eat because I actually have to pay for my food!!! ETA: I'm not against the program just like unemployment if it is actually needed, but the .gov makes it too easy for people to take advantage of it. I also believe if you are on assistance you should be automatically black flagged from getting any loans other than essential (that means no house, car, boat, motorcycle, etc.) |
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Posted: 12/7/2010 11:17:35 AM EDT
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Most of the people I know sale them for .50 on the dollar and buy booze and drugs with it. Around here, you can withdraw the entire balance, cash, from ATM machines... 
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Posted: 12/7/2010 11:18:29 AM EDT
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Sounds like no one in that family will ever "pay for it".
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Posted: 12/7/2010 11:19:01 AM EDT
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The fact that TRG knows this in such detail....
Unless they zig zagged and backtracked their 'first, second' third and next' items were not in that order. The local Central Market isVegetables, then fruits, then meat, then wine, then dairy, then bread, then cheese, then cafe.... TRG FWIW, When I lived in SoCal, Whole Foods had lots of gays in it 
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Posted: 12/7/2010 11:21:04 AM EDT
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I process Point of Sale transaction logs for a living and what I see every day makes me sick. Hundreds of $$ spent on pop, chips, steak, lobster, etc. instead of staple foods. If I could do one thing in my life it would be to model the Food Stamp program after WIC. You would get 80% lean hamburger, chicken (only hindquarters or breasts not skinned), cheese, 1% milk, and bread. No steak, lobster, or any other expensive food that I can't afford to eat because I actually have to pay for my food!!! If I had my model it would be this: Go to your local foodbank, ask them to provide you with charitable groceries. Provide tax incentives for donations to the food banks. And STOP pointing a GUN at a taxpayer's head and forcing them to PAY for another citizen's food! TRG |
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Posted: 12/7/2010 11:23:31 AM EDT
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It's not like that card is an unlimited bottomless pit. Sure, you can buy that stuff and eat well....today. But what about next week? If you spend like that with food stamps, you'll starve 3 weeks out of the month. This is just pot stirring. Bullshit is NOT just pot stirring. If I want to 'eat well for a day' then I have my own skin in the game by earning the money in my checking account. Free food programs, being purposefully abused, is evidence of a disconnect between intention and implementation of a system. Every system grows to protect itself. I would bet my ass that Wal-Mart, Brookshires and other grocers have lobbyist that are hired to insure that the money can be spent on luxury items. TRG |
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Posted: 12/7/2010 11:35:42 AM EDT
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Transfer all the EBT cards to the Military. Issue t-rations and MRE's to the citizens.
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Posted: 12/7/2010 11:39:24 AM EDT
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Most of the people I know sale them for .50 on the dollar and buy booze and drugs with it. Around here, you can withdraw the entire balance, cash, from ATM machines...
And You know what is really bad is that the ones who sale their food stamps also usually show up at the local food handouts to get food. I have always gave to Second Harvest and Salvation Army but I find myself questioning these donations. |
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Posted: 12/7/2010 11:43:33 AM EDT
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Quoted: It's not like that card is an unlimited bottomless pit. Sure, you can buy that stuff and eat well....today. But what about next week? If you spend like that with food stamps, you'll starve 3 weeks out of the month. This is just pot stirring. Excellent point |
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Posted: 12/7/2010 11:45:03 AM EDT
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Transfer all the EBT cards to the Military. Issue t-rations and MRE's to the citizens. 
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Posted: 12/7/2010 11:45:38 AM EDT
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Most of the people I know sale them for .50 on the dollar and buy booze and drugs with it. Around here, you can withdraw the entire balance, cash, from ATM machines...
And You know what is really bad is that the ones who sale their food stamps also usually show up at the local food handouts to get food. I have always gave to Second Harvest and Salvation Army but I find myself questioning these donations. Funny thing is that you wouldn't be questioning it if the .gov got rid of public assistance, gave you a tax break, & let you choose whether or not you want to donate to help the poor. |
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Posted: 12/7/2010 11:46:12 AM EDT
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That aint bad.... Out here we got a pizza chain that will accept pesos for payment and NOW will actually sell you pizzas made fresh and you can pay for them with your foodstamp card. Impossible because pizza is a "hot/prepared" food you say right? Well in this case they sell the pizza cold then offer to heat it up for you free of charge. So they can accept the Texas Lonestar card by selling unprepped meals...then warm it on the spot for free. Every Rule has a Work Around... Just goes to prove it! Is this the "P P" place that caught the flak for taking Pesos? Yes sir Pizza Patron out here, they have huge signs up at the stores proudly displaing "now accepting the texas lonestar card". Sickening really. You from El Paso? |
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Posted: 12/7/2010 11:46:33 AM EDT
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So this what my tax dollars buy for the moochers... What in the blue fuck people have no motherfucking shame anymore do they? |
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Posted: 12/7/2010 11:49:42 AM EDT
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It's not like that card is an unlimited bottomless pit. Sure, you can buy that stuff and eat well....today. But what about next week? If you spend like that with food stamps, you'll starve 3 weeks out of the month. This is just pot stirring. Excellent point Not really no. I see tickets all the time that they have just spent $600 in food stamps but have a $1200 balance remaining!!! |
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Posted: 12/7/2010 11:49:51 AM EDT
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Quoted: http://dailycaller.com/2010/12/07/thedc-investigation-what-i-was-able-to-buy-with-my-food-stamps/#ixzz17QIPDJfk excerpt: What can you buy with food stamps? Pretty much anything sold in a grocery store, other than tobacco, booze and hot food. To find out what that really means, I took my November stipend to Whole Foods, a pricey organic food emporium that is as much a yuppie metaphor as it is a supermarket. My first stop was the seafood counter, where I found the thickest swordfish steak I could, which at $18.99 per pound also turned out to be the most expensive item in the department. Then I headed to the coffee section, where I dropped $11.99 for a pound of fresh roasted beans. From there, the milk aisle, where $8 bought a half gallon of pure organic goat’s milk. Nearby was the cheese section, where I found a tiny wedge of fancy-looking cheese from some European city I’ve never heard of and threw it my cart. Last I hit the produce section, where I discovered a small but tasty-looking container of Chanterelle mushrooms. Price? $13.99, plus tax. At the checkout line, I whipped out my shiny new Electronic Benefits Transfer card and watched the cashier ring up my order. The total (minus the cheese, which I discarded at the last moment) came to $51.10. Not bad for a gourmet meal, especially since I wasn’t paying for it. I worked at a grocery store in high school and college. I saw a lot of filet mignon and lobster purchased with food stamps. The same people often bought beer, cigarettes, and large bags of dog food with cash. |
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Posted: 12/7/2010 11:50:07 AM EDT
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Since I haven't noticed the following word used in this thread so far, I will add it, as it is essential to any food stamp thread.
"Escalade" |
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Posted: 12/7/2010 11:51:38 AM EDT
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Since I haven't noticed the following word used in this thread so far, I will add it, as it is essential to any food stamp thread. "Escalade" Last time I calculated it I live on roughly $120 a month for food items, spend about $40 a week. What this person spent was dang near 50% my monthly budget. |
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Posted: 12/7/2010 11:55:54 AM EDT
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I'd actually be very happy if I found out that welfare folks were spending their money on healthy food.
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Posted: 12/7/2010 11:57:13 AM EDT
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I'd actually be very happy if I found out that welfare folks were spending their money on healthy food. You can buy healthy without buying shit like this. Do you feel awesome knowing that you paid for a food stamp user to utilize funds like this? Its shameful that a fuck on welfare can eat better than most college kids. |
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Posted: 12/7/2010 12:02:46 PM EDT
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1. Apply for food stamp card
2. Spend your $200/mo on SHTF preps 3. ??? 4. Profit |
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Posted: 12/7/2010 12:05:14 PM EDT
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If the .GOV dictated exactly WHAT everyone had to buy, (like Cuba) then all the "Big Brother" worriers would be screaming we had fallen to Communism / Facism... If someone blows their allocated food assistance money on very top shelf stuff, they may dine very well (for a couple of days), but the following weeks with nothing to eat will be hell! This is just a lot of hot air about nothing different. We all have to decide how to allocate our choices, and this is no different. The .gov wouldn't be dictating because the recipient would have an option - eat what we give you, go hungry, or find another way to pay for it. If the Army can give you a meal consisting of; 2 pieces of bread, 1 piece of cheese, 1 piece of baloney, 1 piece of fruit, & 1 6-ounce can of juice; Then why should some fat ghetto rat be treated any differently? So You want the .GOV to dictate the exact brand, size of container, flavor, of packaged foods? Isn't .GOV already bloated and in our lives enough without something like trying to make it fit all? Regional differences (I'd love to make yankees eat healthy TX foods with Jalapeno's, Picante, Salsa Verde) family differences (need foods specific for 7 year olds or 70 year olds) and the like. Also then you dictate what every store has to carry. So what if the local store doesn't carry the .GOV brands (sorry you can't have milk because we don't sell the only .GOV approved brand or size) This article is just some low sh!t I'd expect of Rush Limbaugh or the like. I'm conservative, but that means getting the .GOV out of our lives as much as possible. If someone get approved for aid, then we really don't want to have the .GOV micromanaging it. Control of who really qualifies for aid is an open matter. Once qualified for the aid, keep the .GOV out with some strong but basic guidelines (no booze, no cigarettes, no soda, etc...), It's not difficult to be qualified for a welfare card. So you want NO restrictons for how welfare money is used? You don't care at all if your tax dollars go to buy lobster, candy bars, and Red Bulls? This thread is almost as dumb as the "person on welfare has more money than person earning 60k". If you go out and buy lobster with food stamps, you aren't going to be feeding yourself very long. This "article", is a hit piece intended to stir up people that believe food stamps can catapult someone into a perpetual fine dining lifestyle. If you're against government intervention in our lives, which conservatives are supposed to stand for, that should be across the board. It seems to be that certain people are just fine and dandy with government intrusion, as long as it's not their rights being violated. More specifically, if it's the rights of the poor, they seem to be all for it. Some people cannot grasp the fact that there is no such thing as a perfect welfare system. Every system will have it's pros and cons. We need to scale ours down some, but I certainly don't want the government telling people what they can and can't buy. If it's in a grocery store, I don't care what they buy. |
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Posted: 12/7/2010 12:12:45 PM EDT
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It's "SELL" not "sale"
People sell the cards, they don't sale them |
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Posted: 12/7/2010 12:13:36 PM EDT
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I need to find these homies selling their cards for $0.50/$1.00. Could put that to use.
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Posted: 12/7/2010 12:14:38 PM EDT
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If the .GOV dictated exactly WHAT everyone had to buy, (like Cuba) then all the "Big Brother" worriers would be screaming we had fallen to Communism / Facism... If someone blows their allocated food assistance money on very top shelf stuff, they may dine very well (for a couple of days), but the following weeks with nothing to eat will be hell! This is just a lot of hot air about nothing different. We all have to decide how to allocate our choices, and this is no different. The .gov wouldn't be dictating because the recipient would have an option - eat what we give you, go hungry, or find another way to pay for it. If the Army can give you a meal consisting of; 2 pieces of bread, 1 piece of cheese, 1 piece of baloney, 1 piece of fruit, & 1 6-ounce can of juice; Then why should some fat ghetto rat be treated any differently? So You want the .GOV to dictate the exact brand, size of container, flavor, of packaged foods? Isn't .GOV already bloated and in our lives enough without something like trying to make it fit all? Regional differences (I'd love to make yankees eat healthy TX foods with Jalapeno's, Picante, Salsa Verde) family differences (need foods specific for 7 year olds or 70 year olds) and the like. Also then you dictate what every store has to carry. So what if the local store doesn't carry the .GOV brands (sorry you can't have milk because we don't sell the only .GOV approved brand or size) This article is just some low sh!t I'd expect of Rush Limbaugh or the like. I'm conservative, but that means getting the .GOV out of our lives as much as possible. If someone get approved for aid, then we really don't want to have the .GOV micromanaging it. Control of who really qualifies for aid is an open matter. Once qualified for the aid, keep the .GOV out with some strong but basic guidelines (no booze, no cigarettes, no soda, etc...), It's not difficult to be qualified for a welfare card. So you want NO restrictons for how welfare money is used? You don't care at all if your tax dollars go to buy lobster, candy bars, and Red Bulls? This thread is almost as dumb as the "person on welfare has more money than person earning 60k". If you go out and buy lobster with food stamps, you aren't going to be feeding yourself very long. This "article", is a hit piece intended to stir up people that believe food stamps can catapult someone into a perpetual fine dining lifestyle. If you're against government intervention in our lives, which conservatives are supposed to stand for, that should be across the board. It seems to be that certain people are just fine and dandy with government intrusion, as long as it's not their rights being violated. More specifically, if it's the rights of the poor, they seem to be all for it. Some people cannot grasp the fact that there is no such thing as a perfect welfare system. Every system will have it's pros and cons. We need to scale ours down some, but I certainly don't want the government telling people what they can and can't buy. If it's in a grocery store, I don't care what they buy. Since when do the poor have the right to dine on lobster that was paid for with money taken from somebody else? |
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Posted: 12/7/2010 12:17:46 PM EDT
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I need to find these homies selling their cards for $0.50/$1.00. Could put that to use. Bitch, they don't sell that shit to white-boys. They would just car jack you.
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Posted: 12/7/2010 12:18:38 PM EDT
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Since when do the poor have the right to dine on lobster that was paid for with money taken from somebody else? Since when do the poor have the right to dine on anything that was paid for with money taken from somebody else? |
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Posted: 12/7/2010 12:21:32 PM EDT
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1. Apply for food stamp card 2. Spend your $200/mo on SHTF preps 3. ??? 4. Profit I looked at the calculator in Oregon and it was roughly $75 dollars a month that I could get. I think that this would pay for almost a couple weeks of food by itself. I then realized that I am not a welfare scoundrel and decided that it wasn't for me. I calculated my food costs per meal and it was somewhere around $2.00 a meal. No too bad. 
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Posted: 12/7/2010 12:22:28 PM EDT
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I need to find these homies selling their cards for $0.50/$1.00. Could put that to use. Or you could find a location that decides to sell the aforementioned cigs, porn mags, and alcohol and use a food stamp card for that. I am just appalled at the fact that stores do this kind of stuff. |
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Posted: 12/7/2010 12:22:58 PM EDT
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If the .GOV dictated exactly WHAT everyone had to buy, (like Cuba) then all the "Big Brother" worriers would be screaming we had fallen to Communism / Facism... If someone blows their allocated food assistance money on very top shelf stuff, they may dine very well (for a couple of days), but the following weeks with nothing to eat will be hell! This is just a lot of hot air about nothing different. We all have to decide how to allocate our choices, and this is no different. Well in this case it is, since it's not their own resources they're allocating. |
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Posted: 12/7/2010 12:23:08 PM EDT
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Keep in mind that this person probably spent a huge portion, if not all of their foodstamp money on that trip.
In Texas, a person earning $300/week with $500 rent, additional heating and cooling costs and a $2,500 car (paid off) is entitled to $43. It doesn't say if that's per week or per month. |
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Posted: 12/7/2010 12:23:54 PM EDT
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If the .GOV dictated exactly WHAT everyone had to buy, (like Cuba) then all the "Big Brother" worriers would be screaming we had fallen to Communism / Facism... If someone blows their allocated food assistance money on very top shelf stuff, they may dine very well (for a couple of days), but the following weeks with nothing to eat will be hell! This is just a lot of hot air about nothing different. We all have to decide how to allocate our choices, and this is no different. When you ask for charity, you don't get choices. The beggar on the street doesn't get to pick which bills he wants from my wallet. The food drive doesn't get to come into my home and pick what groceries they want. There's nothing big brother about limiting food choices to those are wanting to buy food on your dime. I can tell you that IL isn't like that.... there is a list of approved food items, and people on welfare can't get the other stuff on their food amount. Such as––only the cheapest (store) brand of milk, eggs, bread, rice, ect.
Head to the run down part of town where more people walk in than drive and observe. You'll a constant stream of people using their LINK card to buy hostess treats, soda, energy drinks, potato chips and other garbage and then buy beer/smokes/scratchers with their own money. Plenty of times I've been in line at the grocery store where the person in front of me is using their link card to buy expensive cuts of steak, prepared deli items, etc while I've got the day old ground beef and about ready to expire bread because I'm on a budget. If you think IL has strict food stamp standards you're way off base. |
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Posted: 12/7/2010 12:24:21 PM EDT
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If you're really against "government intervention in your life", then food stamps and welfare programs are out of the question, since the government takes money from your paycheck to subsidize these programs. People won't be starving in the streets like the hand-wringers will tell you, hell most people I see using EBT cards are "well-fed". If you're really homeless and have no food, go to a church, you'll get a free meal. The whole "hunger in America" issue is so exaggerated, especially around the holidays.
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Posted: 12/7/2010 12:25:09 PM EDT
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Unless they zig zagged and backtracked their 'first, second' third and next' items were not in that order. The local Central Market isVegetables, then fruits, then meat, then wine, then dairy, then bread, then cheese, then cafe.... TRG FWIW, When I lived in SoCal, Whole Foods had lots of gays in it Still does. In fact it's a gay mecca. That and the apple store. |
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Posted: 12/7/2010 12:25:12 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/7/2010 12:29:03 PM EDT
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If that's what they bought I wouldn't mind as much. Instead, they buy soda, cookies, and white bread. Then they get fat and get more money off of disability. Doesn't matter "what" they buy anyhow... they get a set amount of money. He'll starve most of the month if that's what he's spending his gov't cheese on. This. At least the food was healthy. It won't last the whole month though. What's irritating is that soda and crackers and junk food is cheaper than say, juice. So if you have to make those dollars stretch, you go for soda instead of milk and juice. |
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Posted: 12/7/2010 12:32:58 PM EDT
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If the .GOV dictated exactly WHAT everyone had to buy, (like Cuba) then all the "Big Brother" worriers would be screaming we had fallen to Communism / Facism... If someone blows their allocated food assistance money on very top shelf stuff, they may dine very well (for a couple of days), but the following weeks with nothing to eat will be hell! This is just a lot of hot air about nothing different. We all have to decide how to allocate our choices, and this is no different. The .gov wouldn't be dictating because the recipient would have an option - eat what we give you, go hungry, or find another way to pay for it. If the Army can give you a meal consisting of; 2 pieces of bread, 1 piece of cheese, 1 piece of baloney, 1 piece of fruit, & 1 6-ounce can of juice; Then why should some fat ghetto rat be treated any differently? So You want the .GOV to dictate the exact brand, size of container, flavor, of packaged foods? Isn't .GOV already bloated and in our lives enough without something like trying to make it fit all? Regional differences (I'd love to make yankees eat healthy TX foods with Jalapeno's, Picante, Salsa Verde) family differences (need foods specific for 7 year olds or 70 year olds) and the like. Also then you dictate what every store has to carry. So what if the local store doesn't carry the .GOV brands (sorry you can't have milk because we don't sell the only .GOV approved brand or size) This article is just some low sh!t I'd expect of Rush Limbaugh or the like. I'm conservative, but that means getting the .GOV out of our lives as much as possible. If someone get approved for aid, then we really don't want to have the .GOV micromanaging it. Control of who really qualifies for aid is an open matter. Once qualified for the aid, keep the .GOV out with some strong but basic guidelines (no booze, no cigarettes, no soda, etc...), It's not difficult to be qualified for a welfare card. So you want NO restrictons for how welfare money is used? You don't care at all if your tax dollars go to buy lobster, candy bars, and Red Bulls? This thread is almost as dumb as the "person on welfare has more money than person earning 60k". If you go out and buy lobster with food stamps, you aren't going to be feeding yourself very long. This "article", is a hit piece intended to stir up people that believe food stamps can catapult someone into a perpetual fine dining lifestyle. If you're against government intervention in our lives, which conservatives are supposed to stand for, that should be across the board. It seems to be that certain people are just fine and dandy with government intrusion, as long as it's not their rights being violated. More specifically, if it's the rights of the poor, they seem to be all for it. Some people cannot grasp the fact that there is no such thing as a perfect welfare system. Every system will have it's pros and cons. We need to scale ours down some, but I certainly don't want the government telling people what they can and can't buy. If it's in a grocery store, I don't care what they buy. Since when do the poor have the right to dine on lobster that was paid for with money taken from somebody else? You're talking nonsense and completely missing the point. If a poor person uses their food stamps to buy lobster then they are going to eat good for one night and then spend the rest of the month starving. No they won't. If they can afford lobster at all then they are being given too much money to begin with. Even if they did run out of "benefits" before the end of the month they still wouldn't go hungry - they would buy food for cash or they would go to a soup kitchen for another handout. You don't turn into a big fat slob by going hungry. |
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Posted: 12/7/2010 12:35:14 PM EDT
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If the .GOV dictated exactly WHAT everyone had to buy, (like Cuba) then all the "Big Brother" worriers would be screaming we had fallen to Communism / Facism... If someone blows their allocated food assistance money on very top shelf stuff, they may dine very well (for a couple of days), but the following weeks with nothing to eat will be hell! This is just a lot of hot air about nothing different. We all have to decide how to allocate our choices, and this is no different. The .gov wouldn't be dictating because the recipient would have an option - eat what we give you, go hungry, or find another way to pay for it. If the Army can give you a meal consisting of; 2 pieces of bread, 1 piece of cheese, 1 piece of baloney, 1 piece of fruit, & 1 6-ounce can of juice; Then why should some fat ghetto rat be treated any differently? So You want the .GOV to dictate the exact brand, size of container, flavor, of packaged foods? Isn't .GOV already bloated and in our lives enough without something like trying to make it fit all? Regional differences (I'd love to make yankees eat healthy TX foods with Jalapeno's, Picante, Salsa Verde) family differences (need foods specific for 7 year olds or 70 year olds) and the like. Also then you dictate what every store has to carry. So what if the local store doesn't carry the .GOV brands (sorry you can't have milk because we don't sell the only .GOV approved brand or size) This article is just some low sh!t I'd expect of Rush Limbaugh or the like. I'm conservative, but that means getting the .GOV out of our lives as much as possible. If someone get approved for aid, then we really don't want to have the .GOV micromanaging it. Control of who really qualifies for aid is an open matter. Once qualified for the aid, keep the .GOV out with some strong but basic guidelines (no booze, no cigarettes, no soda, etc...), It's not difficult to be qualified for a welfare card. So you want NO restrictons for how welfare money is used? You don't care at all if your tax dollars go to buy lobster, candy bars, and Red Bulls? This thread is almost as dumb as the "person on welfare has more money than person earning 60k". If you go out and buy lobster with food stamps, you aren't going to be feeding yourself very long. This "article", is a hit piece intended to stir up people that believe food stamps can catapult someone into a perpetual fine dining lifestyle. If you're against government intervention in our lives, which conservatives are supposed to stand for, that should be across the board. It seems to be that certain people are just fine and dandy with government intrusion, as long as it's not their rights being violated. More specifically, if it's the rights of the poor, they seem to be all for it. Some people cannot grasp the fact that there is no such thing as a perfect welfare system. Every system will have it's pros and cons. We need to scale ours down some, but I certainly don't want the government telling people what they can and can't buy. If it's in a grocery store, I don't care what they buy. Since when do the poor have the right to dine on lobster that was paid for with money taken from somebody else? You're talking nonsense and completely missing the point. If a poor person uses their food stamps to buy lobster then they are going to eat good for one night and then spend the rest of the month starving. No, it's you who are missing the point. The only purpose of these programs is to PREVENT people from starving. If it allows them to do precisely that, then why should our tax dollars go to support the program at all? Chronically poor people are poor because they make crap choices. If we're going to take money from people who work and give it to those that don't, it ridiculous to assume they'll make better decisions with our money than they did with their own. That's on top of the fact that it's insulting to the people who do work and can't afford luxury items, only to see their own money being blown on those things by people who don't work. |
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Posted: 12/7/2010 12:36:53 PM EDT
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Most of the people I know sale them for .50 on the dollar and buy booze and drugs with it. The Amish out here buy food stamps from the Indians for .10 on the dollar.........they also buy commodities and use them to ––partially–––– stock their "grocery" store. |
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Posted: 12/7/2010 12:40:48 PM EDT
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http://dailycaller.com/2010/12/07/thedc-investigation-what-i-was-able-to-buy-with-my-food-stamps/#ixzz17QIPDJfk excerpt: What can you buy with food stamps? Pretty much anything sold in a grocery store, other than tobacco, booze and hot food. To find out what that really means, I took my November stipend to Whole Foods, a pricey organic food emporium that is as much a yuppie metaphor as it is a supermarket. My first stop was the seafood counter, where I found the thickest swordfish steak I could, which at $18.99 per pound also turned out to be the most expensive item in the department. Then I headed to the coffee section, where I dropped $11.99 for a pound of fresh roasted beans. From there, the milk aisle, where $8 bought a half gallon of pure organic goat’s milk. Nearby was the cheese section, where I found a tiny wedge of fancy-looking cheese from some European city I’ve never heard of and threw it my cart. Last I hit the produce section, where I discovered a small but tasty-looking container of Chanterelle mushrooms. Price? $13.99, plus tax. At the checkout line, I whipped out my shiny new Electronic Benefits Transfer card and watched the cashier ring up my order. The total (minus the cheese, which I discarded at the last moment) came to $51.10. Not bad for a gourmet meal, especially since I wasn’t paying for it. Unless they zig zagged and backtracked their 'first, second' third and next' items were not in that order. The local Central Market isVegetables, then fruits, then meat, then wine, then dairy, then bread, then cheese, then cafe.... TRG Uhh. BSK |
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Posted: 12/7/2010 12:41:32 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/7/2010 12:41:44 PM EDT
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gotta keep the lazy dem/socialist voters fat and happy, gotta secure those votes!
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Posted: 12/7/2010 12:44:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/7/2010 12:46:37 PM EDT
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the local walmart has signs up, that food stamps are only allowed to buy the cheap milk, and the cheap bread, but far as i know you can buy anything else, well except for the sinful booze, cigs, and tobacco.
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Posted: 12/7/2010 12:48:16 PM EDT
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I'd actually be very happy if I found out that welfare folks were spending their money on healthy food. You can buy healthy without buying shit like this. Do you feel awesome knowing that you paid for a food stamp user to utilize funds like this? Its shameful that a fuck on welfare can eat better than most college kids. You could eat just like the OP - and have the same problem as the OP when the (monthly) money runs out. Brian |
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Posted: 12/7/2010 12:48:42 PM EDT
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I saw a woman into the local grocery store the other day purchase her allotment of welfare food, then take it outside and put it in the trunk of her 2009 Acura TL...........and here I am working my ass off, making my bills and I cant even afford an Acura..........
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Posted: 12/7/2010 12:48:43 PM EDT
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This is why they should get rid of food stamps altogether. Since you can't "let people starve" bring back the 5-pound blocks of government cheese - make them come to a government dispensary once a month to pick it up. yup. a gov food location, that only carries staples. rice, beans, powered milk, dehydrated potato flakes, dehydrated eggs, etc. ..... save everyone a ton of $$. |
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