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Posted: 6/16/2015 10:59:22 AM EDT
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She wouldn't mind a bit 
They don't offer self inject on the T. I do stick myself with another hcg 3 days after the T and initial hcg. I'm in the middle of Bumfuck and docs that know what they're doing seem to be fewer and far betweener than usual. I suspect I'll be at this place once a week for awhile. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You should be on the same dosage for a good while before they change you, especially drop you by so much. I have to drive an hour every week for my shot 
Luckily they know what they're doing and the girls and cute and sweet to talk to for a few minutes. I think my cost for T, Hcg and AI is 50 till my insurance kicks in. Does your clinic have a self inject option? I guess that takes the cute girl out of the picture though.  I am sure his wife would not mind jabbing him once a week. She wouldn't mind a bit
They don't offer self inject on the T. I do stick myself with another hcg 3 days after the T and initial hcg. I'm in the middle of Bumfuck and docs that know what they're doing seem to be fewer and far betweener than usual. I suspect I'll be at this place once a week for awhile. Dude that sucks you have to have them do it for you. Just admit you don't mind showing your ass to the cute chick and that's why you're not motivated to self inject. It's OK, I understand. Lol |
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Posted: 6/19/2015 1:02:23 PM EDT
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Blood work came back high so they dropped my weekly dose.
I get tested again in 6 months. Do it yourself you say? 
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Posted: 6/19/2015 1:17:43 PM EDT
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Blood work came back high so they dropped my weekly dose. I get tested again in 6 months. Do it yourself you say? 
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Posted: 6/19/2015 6:14:28 PM EDT
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Blood work came back high so they dropped my weekly dose. I get tested again in 6 months. Do it yourself you say? If you don't mind saying what were your levels and how long had it been since your last injection? |
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Posted: 6/20/2015 8:32:51 AM EDT
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Blood work came back high so they dropped my weekly dose. I get tested again in 6 months. Do it yourself you say? If you don't mind saying what were your levels and how long had it been since your last injection? I tell mine my test was the day after the injection. She asks no questions. |
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Posted: 6/20/2015 9:09:54 AM EDT
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Blood work came back high so they dropped my weekly dose. I get tested again in 6 months. Do it yourself you say? If you don't mind saying what were your levels and how long had it been since your last injection? I tell mine my test was the day after the injection. She asks no questions. I go to a clinic every 7 days. They check blood levels quarterly, in 2 of the 4 checks they do full workup, lipids, vitamin, etc. Good news is I'm healthy as a horse. @MI, 7 days post injection T levels at 995. 
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Posted: 6/20/2015 8:23:35 PM EDT
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No update for OP's test results?
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Posted: 6/21/2015 2:15:44 PM EDT
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OK here are me results, sorry for the delay, just got them:
total: 622 ng/dL free: 14.5 pg/mL Comments? |
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Posted: 6/21/2015 2:25:33 PM EDT
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OK here are me results, sorry for the delay, just got them: total: 622 ng/dL free: 14.5 pg/mL Comments? They are low in my opinion. But you're 300ish above the bottom end of the reference range. You might have a hard time finding a doctor to do anything with that unless they are open minded about hrt/TRT. Mine total t was at the bottom of the numbers and I had several doctors tell me I was fine. |
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Posted: 6/21/2015 2:26:55 PM EDT
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They are low in my opinion. But you're 300ish above the bottom end of the reference range. You might have a hard time finding a doctor to do anything with that unless they are open minded about hrt/TRT. Mine total t was at the bottom of the numbers and I had several doctors tell me I was fine. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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OK here are me results, sorry for the delay, just got them: total: 622 ng/dL free: 14.5 pg/mL Comments? They are low in my opinion. But you're 300ish above the bottom end of the reference range. You might have a hard time finding a doctor to do anything with that unless they are open minded about hrt/TRT. Mine total t was at the bottom of the numbers and I had several doctors tell me I was fine. Considering that I lift 5 days a week, I feel that these numbers are low, and if I want to make any serious gains, they will need to increase. |
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Posted: 6/21/2015 3:31:03 PM EDT
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Considering that I lift 5 days a week, I feel that these numbers are low, and if I want to make any serious gains, they will need to increase. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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OK here are me results, sorry for the delay, just got them: total: 622 ng/dL free: 14.5 pg/mL Comments? They are low in my opinion. But you're 300ish above the bottom end of the reference range. You might have a hard time finding a doctor to do anything with that unless they are open minded about hrt/TRT. Mine total t was at the bottom of the numbers and I had several doctors tell me I was fine. Considering that I lift 5 days a week, I feel that these numbers are low, and if I want to make any serious gains, they will need to increase. I will agree that you'll probably have a hard time finding a doctor to treat you with those numbers. The decision you make to seek treatment is a personal one but I think there are probably still things you can do to stay natural. You are in the mean of a statistical distribution. I say that as a very pro-treatment and pro-steroids for everyone kind of guy. 
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Posted: 6/21/2015 4:12:19 PM EDT
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OK here are me results, sorry for the delay, just got them: total: 622 ng/dL free: 14.5 pg/mL Comments? While I support anyone's decision to have higher numbers than that, I think you'll have a very tough time finding a doctor to agree. |
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Posted: 6/21/2015 6:36:25 PM EDT
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Considering that I lift 5 days a week, I feel that these numbers are low, and if I want to make any serious gains, they will need to increase. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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OK here are me results, sorry for the delay, just got them: total: 622 ng/dL free: 14.5 pg/mL Comments? They are low in my opinion. But you're 300ish above the bottom end of the reference range. You might have a hard time finding a doctor to do anything with that unless they are open minded about hrt/TRT. Mine total t was at the bottom of the numbers and I had several doctors tell me I was fine. Considering that I lift 5 days a week, I feel that these numbers are low, and if I want to make any serious gains, they will need to increase. If you look at chart of T by age for a 35-39 yr old the mean is 597. So you are pretty good for your age. I think you will have a hard time finding a doc to give you TRT. If you want higher numbers you could try everything to boost test unless you don't care about staying natural. EDIT: Did you have these check? Estradiol SHGB LH & FSH TSH You said that you have only been lifting your ass of for 10 months. That really is not very long. How is you diet and programming? |
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Posted: 6/22/2015 2:29:53 AM EDT
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While I support anyone's decision to have higher numbers than that, I think you'll have a very tough time finding a doctor to agree. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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OK here are me results, sorry for the delay, just got them: total: 622 ng/dL free: 14.5 pg/mL Comments? While I support anyone's decision to have higher numbers than that, I think you'll have a very tough time finding a doctor to agree. Who needs docs? 
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Posted: 6/22/2015 2:30:56 AM EDT
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I go to a clinic every 7 days. They check blood levels quarterly, in 2 of the 4 checks they do full workup, lipids, vitamin, etc. Good news is I'm healthy as a horse. @MI, 7 days post injection T levels at 995.
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Blood work came back high so they dropped my weekly dose. I get tested again in 6 months. Do it yourself you say? If you don't mind saying what were your levels and how long had it been since your last injection? I tell mine my test was the day after the injection. She asks no questions. I go to a clinic every 7 days. They check blood levels quarterly, in 2 of the 4 checks they do full workup, lipids, vitamin, etc. Good news is I'm healthy as a horse. @MI, 7 days post injection T levels at 995.
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Posted: 6/22/2015 9:04:58 AM EDT
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Those numbers are fine. I really doubt your T level is holding you back. If you want to juice then go for it, but I don't think you can call it TRT will levels like that.
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Posted: 6/22/2015 9:47:42 PM EDT
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Blood work came back high so they dropped my weekly dose. I get tested again in 6 months. Do it yourself you say? If you don't mind saying what were your levels and how long had it been since your last injection? I tell mine my test was the day after the injection. She asks no questions. I go to a clinic every 7 days. They check blood levels quarterly, in 2 of the 4 checks they do full workup, lipids, vitamin, etc. Good news is I'm healthy as a horse. @MI, 7 days post injection T levels at 995.
Dang nice!! That's where I am at and feel good on my TRT dosage.
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Posted: 6/24/2015 7:40:54 PM EDT
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That's where I am at and feel good on my TRT dosage. Do you have your E2 levels check at the same time? |
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Posted: 6/24/2015 9:00:39 PM EDT
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Question for you guys who are doing this to actually get your ass out of the chair and feel like a human...
Before you did the TRT did you cycle much between 'good days' and 'bad days' or was it just months and months of 'bad days' in a row? I'm a little afraid that I'll get a blood test on a good day and still cycle between running around getting shit done, and moping around looking for a nap. |
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Posted: 6/24/2015 9:06:34 PM EDT
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Question for you guys who are doing this to actually get your ass out of the chair and feel like a human... Before you did the TRT did you cycle much between 'good days' and 'bad days' or was it just months and months of 'bad days' in a row? I'm a little afraid that I'll get a blood test on a good day and still cycle between running around getting shit done, and moping around looking for a nap. I have some pointers on how to crash your levels on the first page, if you want to make sure you get therapy. |
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Posted: 6/24/2015 9:15:03 PM EDT
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I have some pointers on how to crash your levels on the first page, if you want to make sure you get therapy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Question for you guys who are doing this to actually get your ass out of the chair and feel like a human... Before you did the TRT did you cycle much between 'good days' and 'bad days' or was it just months and months of 'bad days' in a row? I'm a little afraid that I'll get a blood test on a good day and still cycle between running around getting shit done, and moping around looking for a nap. I have some pointers on how to crash your levels on the first page, if you want to make sure you get therapy. I saw those 
I'm just as interested in see the real numbers though, I've had some complications to getting sick a few years ago that might still be biting at my heels, so I really just want the real story first. Then start self-doctoring. . 
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Posted: 6/25/2015 9:30:11 AM EDT
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I saw those
I'm just as interested in see the real numbers though, I've had some complications to getting sick a few years ago that might still be biting at my heels, so I really just want the real story first. Then start self-doctoring. .  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WMSFqrUcw0
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Question for you guys who are doing this to actually get your ass out of the chair and feel like a human... Before you did the TRT did you cycle much between 'good days' and 'bad days' or was it just months and months of 'bad days' in a row? I'm a little afraid that I'll get a blood test on a good day and still cycle between running around getting shit done, and moping around looking for a nap. I have some pointers on how to crash your levels on the first page, if you want to make sure you get therapy. I saw those
I'm just as interested in see the real numbers though, I've had some complications to getting sick a few years ago that might still be biting at my heels, so I really just want the real story first. Then start self-doctoring. . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WMSFqrUcw0
I would try and get your real numbers. I think purposely crashing your T so you can get on therapy is silly. I guess poeple do it to basicly get on "legal steriods". But TRT is something you need to do forever once you start sinve it lowers your natural T producton. So now matter where you move or what insurance you have if you dont want to feel like shit you need TRT. For you question yes T fluctuates throughout the day and day to day. I would just pick a day and get it tested. I would also have a bunch of other tests done to figure out what is causing your lower T. It could be your thyroid not sending enough signals to make T (which was my case). I went on tyroid meds ($4 per month) and it fixed my T levels. |
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Posted: 6/25/2015 12:49:09 PM EDT
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That's where I am at and feel good on my TRT dosage. Do you have your E2 levels check at the same time? Yes. Always check your e2 levels when doing TRT regardless of dose. I tend to have my e2 run a little higher because anything below the mid 30 range, my joints start to get achy. |
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Posted: 6/26/2015 7:43:23 PM EDT
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I’ve been on testosterone gel – first Androgel and now Fortesta – for over a decade. Fortesta comes in measured pump cans. I do two pumps in the morning and two after supper.
The stuff is magic. My morning backaches and joint stiffness vanished. Muscle mass and strength soared. I can do 15+ dead-hang pullups and over 85 pushups in a minute using the USAF approved form. I’m 69 years old. Just this morning, there was an interview with a local urologist in the paper. When asked what was the most significant advance in urology for men, he said that without any question it was T therapy. Be sure to stay current on your blood work. |
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Posted: 6/29/2015 2:49:06 PM EDT
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I’ve been on testosterone gel – first Androgel and now Fortesta – for over a decade. Fortesta comes in measured pump cans. I do two pumps in the morning and two after supper. The stuff is magic. My morning backaches and joint stiffness vanished. Muscle mass and strength soared. I can do 15+ dead-hang pullups and over 85 pushups in a minute using the USAF approved form. I’m 69 years old. Just this morning, there was an interview with a local urologist in the paper. When asked what was the most significant advance in urology for men, he said that without any question it was T therapy. Be sure to stay current on your blood work. Awesome! Do you know your current total and free T levels? I'm always curious at what numbers guys start to really feel a difference, although I know it varies from person to person. I read somewhere that people who need TRT don't tend to respond until their levels are actually higher than normal for their age. |
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Posted: 7/6/2015 3:01:49 PM EDT
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I would try and get your real numbers. I think purposely crashing your T so you can get on therapy is silly. I guess poeple do it to basicly get on "legal steriods". But TRT is something you need to do forever once you start sinve it lowers your natural T producton. So now matter where you move or what insurance you have if you dont want to feel like shit you need TRT. For you question yes T fluctuates throughout the day and day to day. I would just pick a day and get it tested. I would also have a bunch of other tests done to figure out what is causing your lower T. It could be your thyroid not sending enough signals to make T (which was my case). I went on tyroid meds ($4 per month) and it fixed my T levels. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Question for you guys who are doing this to actually get your ass out of the chair and feel like a human... Before you did the TRT did you cycle much between 'good days' and 'bad days' or was it just months and months of 'bad days' in a row? I'm a little afraid that I'll get a blood test on a good day and still cycle between running around getting shit done, and moping around looking for a nap. I have some pointers on how to crash your levels on the first page, if you want to make sure you get therapy. I saw those
I'm just as interested in see the real numbers though, I've had some complications to getting sick a few years ago that might still be biting at my heels, so I really just want the real story first. Then start self-doctoring. . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WMSFqrUcw0
I would try and get your real numbers. I think purposely crashing your T so you can get on therapy is silly. I guess poeple do it to basicly get on "legal steriods". But TRT is something you need to do forever once you start sinve it lowers your natural T producton. So now matter where you move or what insurance you have if you dont want to feel like shit you need TRT. For you question yes T fluctuates throughout the day and day to day. I would just pick a day and get it tested. I would also have a bunch of other tests done to figure out what is causing your lower T. It could be your thyroid not sending enough signals to make T (which was my case). I went on tyroid meds ($4 per month) and it fixed my T levels. Pituitary not thyroid drives T production. TSH secreted by the pituitary drives thyroid function. |
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Posted: 7/7/2015 8:15:09 PM EDT
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I've been on trt for 7 years now. I've tried the self prescribed method, a trt clinic and now my local urologist.
Using my local Dr us actually cheaper and way easier. My level was 160 when he checked it. A vial of cypionate from the pharmacy is $10. He prescribes 1ml, 200 mg, once every 2 weeks but I do that every week. I just feel better and get blood work done once a year. Liver enzymes stay a little elevated and red blood cell count gets borderline high. I just give blood once or twice a year and it keeps it all in check. Good luck |
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Posted: 7/8/2015 8:03:59 AM EDT
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Pituitary not thyroid drives T production. TSH secreted by the pituitary drives thyroid function. Thyroid dysfunction can lower T levels. It's one of the many things you should check before starting injections or whatnot. |
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Posted: 7/8/2015 11:06:39 AM EDT
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Pituitary not thyroid drives T production. TSH secreted by the pituitary drives thyroid function. Thyroid dysfunction can lower T levels. It's one of the many things you should check before starting injections or whatnot. There is some evidence to support that hypothyroidism can interfere with T production but his statement that low T is due to the thyroid not sending the right signals ( paraphrasing here) is completely incorrect. 
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Posted: 7/10/2015 3:15:00 PM EDT
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Hey guys just got my hormone, CBC, and metabolic labs back. Is there a good all in one resource to compare my numbers to? I'm in the field and on my phone and it's not easy to find stuff.
My T levels are 523 and 13 free after a night of 4 scotches and not a ton a sleep. Guess I'm probably ok there. 34 years old |
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Posted: 7/10/2015 3:19:58 PM EDT
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It is better than none. Wrong... 1x every 2 weeks is asking for an emotional rollercoaster which will lead to more problems in the long run I do the shots every 2 weeks and I don't think I'm having those kinds of problems. The idea of stabbing myself in the leg every other day with that monster needle makes my skin crawl. |
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Posted: 7/10/2015 4:24:22 PM EDT
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Hey guys just got my hormone, CBC, and metabolic labs back. Is there a good all in one resource to compare my numbers to? I'm in the field and on my phone and it's not easy to find stuff. My T levels are 523 and 13 free after a night of 4 scotches and not a ton a sleep. Guess I'm probably ok there. 34 years old Get them tested again under normal conditions. You're a bit low but you're in normal range. Bottom is 275..top is something like 1100. If you're trying to crash them to get on TRT which is not recommended. Do that 3-4 nights in a row and get tested first thing in the morning after your scotch breath wears off. |
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Posted: 7/10/2015 4:51:41 PM EDT
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This is good advice. My T was low around 400 and was thinking of doing TRT but I found the threads I linked above. Found out my thyroid was not functioning right. So i want on meds for my thyroid did not help T levels. Then I read a bunch about thyroid and the importance of iodine. Started taking iodine and that fix my T levels. I am at 700-900 now. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you aren't just after legal juice you may want to further explore what is going on to cause the low T like tumors, sleep apnea, etc. This is good advice. My T was low around 400 and was thinking of doing TRT but I found the threads I linked above. Found out my thyroid was not functioning right. So i want on meds for my thyroid did not help T levels. Then I read a bunch about thyroid and the importance of iodine. Started taking iodine and that fix my T levels. I am at 700-900 now. I've been taking the wrong medication for close to 3 months. I thought I "refilled" my synthroid, turns out it was another medication. One that I quit, or so I thought. Just found out today after a refill that the new capsule didn't match which made me read the fucking label and realize... yup I've been off it and feeling like shit. I don't know if that's related but let's just say I've spent a lot of money on what could be a simple fucking mistake. Always double check your meds, guys. 
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Posted: 7/10/2015 4:54:17 PM EDT
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Yup, Ive checked my levels multiple times. Im sitting right at 900, Very little if no side effects. I was at 125 when I started and I was pretty much at the bottom. I was pretty fucked up emotionally and physically. And my job requires allot of physical work. Not just what I do, but where I work. Side effects? Other then the size of my nuts, for anyone starting. Know that your nuts are going to shrink. It was kind of bothering me at first, then my wife told me that she wasn't interested in my nuts. we already have a kid. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Holy shit man, I thought my doc was pretty liberal with his dosage. not that it's any of my business, but is that the standard 200mg/mL test cyp? Yup, Ive checked my levels multiple times. Im sitting right at 900, Very little if no side effects. I was at 125 when I started and I was pretty much at the bottom. I was pretty fucked up emotionally and physically. And my job requires allot of physical work. Not just what I do, but where I work. Side effects? Other then the size of my nuts, for anyone starting. Know that your nuts are going to shrink. It was kind of bothering me at first, then my wife told me that she wasn't interested in my nuts. we already have a kid. 200mg doses affected you that much? You dosing that once a week and had such side effects? |
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Posted: 7/10/2015 5:06:03 PM EDT
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Hey guys just got my hormone, CBC, and metabolic labs back. Is there a good all in one resource to compare my numbers to? I'm in the field and on my phone and it's not easy to find stuff. My T levels are 523 and 13 free after a night of 4 scotches and not a ton a sleep. Guess I'm probably ok there. 34 years old Mine was 312 at 40 years old. I started TRT last week, assuming 523 is normal for you it might be worth looking at. |
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Posted: 7/10/2015 10:18:59 PM EDT
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Hey guys just got my hormone, CBC, and metabolic labs back. Is there a good all in one resource to compare my numbers to? I'm in the field and on my phone and it's not easy to find stuff. My T levels are 523 and 13 free after a night of 4 scotches and not a ton a sleep. Guess I'm probably ok there. 34 years old That's not impressively high but you might have a hard time finding a doctor to help you unless they are open minded. Those numbers are probably why you've stayed in good shape and why you're not seeing a major alow down. Again, not the highest and probably not where you want to be, but still better than a 212 at age 26 like myself. |
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Posted: 7/10/2015 10:22:05 PM EDT
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Yeah at least I know it's not a primary concern at the moment. That's good. I'm not opposed to going on TRT but don't want to jump into it quite yet.
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Posted: 7/10/2015 10:49:24 PM EDT
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Yeah at least I know it's not a primary concern at the moment. That's good. I'm not opposed to going on TRT but don't want to jump into it quite yet. I'll wait a bit and get tested again maybe next year. I wouldn't say it's not a concern. You have the same levels as a 65 year old man and what they should have. You can find a doctor it just might take some work. The bump of just a few hundred points could make a huge difference in size, strength, speed, and hell, quality of sleep. Don't dismiss it just yet. But do remember, once you go down the road, it's a commitment. You can come off later if you choose by doing the proper post cycle therapy but I don't think you'll ever see your natural levels be that high again unless you just have good genetics. |
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Posted: 7/10/2015 11:08:22 PM EDT
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I do the shots every 2 weeks and I don't think I'm having those kinds of problems. The idea of stabbing myself in the leg every other day with that monster needle makes my skin crawl. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It is better than none. Wrong... 1x every 2 weeks is asking for an emotional rollercoaster which will lead to more problems in the long run I do the shots every 2 weeks and I don't think I'm having those kinds of problems. The idea of stabbing myself in the leg every other day with that monster needle makes my skin crawl. go to once a week or even 2x's a week. You can use 5/8" insulin pins which are absolutely painless. |
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Posted: 7/11/2015 12:05:06 AM EDT
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It is better than none. Wrong... 1x every 2 weeks is asking for an emotional rollercoaster which will lead to more problems in the long run I do the shots every 2 weeks and I don't think I'm having those kinds of problems. The idea of stabbing myself in the leg every other day with that monster needle makes my skin crawl. go to once a week or even 2x's a week. You can use 5/8" insulin pins which are absolutely painless. I thought the needle needs to be thicker and longer so that you can get into the muscle. |
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Posted: 7/11/2015 12:05:19 AM EDT
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I wouldn't say it's not a concern. You have the same levels as a 65 year old man and what they should have. You can find a doctor it just might take some work. The bump of just a few hundred points could make a huge difference in size, strength, speed, and hell, quality of sleep. Don't dismiss it just yet. But do remember, once you go down the road, it's a commitment. You can come off later if you choose by doing the proper post cycle therapy but I don't think you'll ever see your natural levels be that high again unless you just have good genetics. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yeah at least I know it's not a primary concern at the moment. That's good. I'm not opposed to going on TRT but don't want to jump into it quite yet. I'll wait a bit and get tested again maybe next year. I wouldn't say it's not a concern. You have the same levels as a 65 year old man and what they should have. You can find a doctor it just might take some work. The bump of just a few hundred points could make a huge difference in size, strength, speed, and hell, quality of sleep. Don't dismiss it just yet. But do remember, once you go down the road, it's a commitment. You can come off later if you choose by doing the proper post cycle therapy but I don't think you'll ever see your natural levels be that high again unless you just have good genetics. Well when you put it that way... Alright I'll think it over. Thanks for the advice! |
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Posted: 7/11/2015 1:37:12 AM EDT
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I've been on trt for 7 years now. I've tried the self prescribed method, a trt clinic and now my local urologist. Using my local Dr us actually cheaper and way easier. My level was 160 when he checked it. A vial of cypionate from the pharmacy is $10. He prescribes 1ml, 200 mg, once every 2 weeks but I do that every week. I just feel better and get blood work done once a year. Liver enzymes stay a little elevated and red blood cell count gets borderline high. I just give blood once or twice a year and it keeps it all in check. Good luck So your running 400mg a week, a very hefty TRT dose. As long as your blood work comes back in check I guess you're good to go. A beginner "steroid" cycle is 500-600mg a week. What are your T levels at 400mg a week? |
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Posted: 7/11/2015 1:40:04 AM EDT
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Hey guys just got my hormone, CBC, and metabolic labs back. Is there a good all in one resource to compare my numbers to? I'm in the field and on my phone and it's not easy to find stuff. My T levels are 523 and 13 free after a night of 4 scotches and not a ton a sleep. Guess I'm probably ok there. 34 years old With your diet and your current progress, you'd blow up on a smallish beginner cycle if you ramped up your eating. I'll bet you could put on 10plus pounds of good mass in 12 weeks. |
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Posted: 7/11/2015 1:40:40 AM EDT
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Mine was 312 at 40 years old. I started TRT last week, assuming 523 is normal for you it might be worth looking at. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Hey guys just got my hormone, CBC, and metabolic labs back. Is there a good all in one resource to compare my numbers to? I'm in the field and on my phone and it's not easy to find stuff. My T levels are 523 and 13 free after a night of 4 scotches and not a ton a sleep. Guess I'm probably ok there. 34 years old Mine was 312 at 40 years old. I started TRT last week, assuming 523 is normal for you it might be worth looking at. Have you felt any pep in your step yet? |
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Posted: 7/11/2015 8:23:09 AM EDT
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So your running 400mg a week, a very hefty TRT dose. As long as your blood work comes back in check I guess you're good to go. A beginner "steroid" cycle is 500-600mg a week. What are your T levels at 400mg a week? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've been on trt for 7 years now. I've tried the self prescribed method, a trt clinic and now my local urologist. Using my local Dr us actually cheaper and way easier. My level was 160 when he checked it. A vial of cypionate from the pharmacy is $10. He prescribes 1ml, 200 mg, once every 2 weeks but I do that every week. I just feel better and get blood work done once a year. Liver enzymes stay a little elevated and red blood cell count gets borderline high. I just give blood once or twice a year and it keeps it all in check. Good luck So your running 400mg a week, a very hefty TRT dose. As long as your blood work comes back in check I guess you're good to go. A beginner "steroid" cycle is 500-600mg a week. What are your T levels at 400mg a week? I think he meant 100mg/week, but gets the shot every two weeks. That's not bad. Quoted:
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Hey guys just got my hormone, CBC, and metabolic labs back. Is there a good all in one resource to compare my numbers to? I'm in the field and on my phone and it's not easy to find stuff. My T levels are 523 and 13 free after a night of 4 scotches and not a ton a sleep. Guess I'm probably ok there. 34 years old Mine was 312 at 40 years old. I started TRT last week, assuming 523 is normal for you it might be worth looking at. Have you felt any pep in your step yet? Definitely. I'd say I've gone from 50% to 75% since Monday. |
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Posted: 7/11/2015 9:43:39 AM EDT
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So your running 400mg a week, a very hefty TRT dose. As long as your blood work comes back in check I guess you're good to go. A beginner "steroid" cycle is 500-600mg a week. What are your T levels at 400mg a week? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've been on trt for 7 years now. I've tried the self prescribed method, a trt clinic and now my local urologist. Using my local Dr us actually cheaper and way easier. My level was 160 when he checked it. A vial of cypionate from the pharmacy is $10. He prescribes 1ml, 200 mg, once every 2 weeks but I do that every week. I just feel better and get blood work done once a year. Liver enzymes stay a little elevated and red blood cell count gets borderline high. I just give blood once or twice a year and it keeps it all in check. Good luck So your running 400mg a week, a very hefty TRT dose. As long as your blood work comes back in check I guess you're good to go. A beginner "steroid" cycle is 500-600mg a week. What are your T levels at 400mg a week? Yea that's more than your standard TRT dose. You're damn near anabolic which I'm all for but running it that high for so long might take a toll on other parts of your system. Each his own though, if you're God like then by all means, proceed. |
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Posted: 7/11/2015 9:45:21 AM EDT
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Well when you put it that way... Alright I'll think it over. Thanks for the advice! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yeah at least I know it's not a primary concern at the moment. That's good. I'm not opposed to going on TRT but don't want to jump into it quite yet. I'll wait a bit and get tested again maybe next year. I wouldn't say it's not a concern. You have the same levels as a 65 year old man and what they should have. You can find a doctor it just might take some work. The bump of just a few hundred points could make a huge difference in size, strength, speed, and hell, quality of sleep. Don't dismiss it just yet. But do remember, once you go down the road, it's a commitment. You can come off later if you choose by doing the proper post cycle therapy but I don't think you'll ever see your natural levels be that high again unless you just have good genetics. Well when you put it that way... Alright I'll think it over. Thanks for the advice! On your next test check your thyroid functions as well. T3,t4,tsh. Also check your igf1 levels. If you can figure out how to get your igf1 levels up, that's when it's next level soldier shit. |
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Posted: 7/11/2015 10:54:38 AM EDT
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Well when you put it that way... Alright I'll think it over. Thanks for the advice! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yeah at least I know it's not a primary concern at the moment. That's good. I'm not opposed to going on TRT but don't want to jump into it quite yet. I'll wait a bit and get tested again maybe next year. I wouldn't say it's not a concern. You have the same levels as a 65 year old man and what they should have. You can find a doctor it just might take some work. The bump of just a few hundred points could make a huge difference in size, strength, speed, and hell, quality of sleep. Don't dismiss it just yet. But do remember, once you go down the road, it's a commitment. You can come off later if you choose by doing the proper post cycle therapy but I don't think you'll ever see your natural levels be that high again unless you just have good genetics. Well when you put it that way... Alright I'll think it over. Thanks for the advice! Unless you have secondary concerns related to symptoms like mood, depression, recovery, lack of sex drive I'd stay away from TRT at this point. I was at 272 at age 30. I was a miserable wreck. |
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Posted: 7/11/2015 12:20:42 PM EDT
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You're right SCW I misread that he isn't on 400mg a week .....I think its 200mg a week.
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Posted: 7/11/2015 2:22:26 PM EDT
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Unless you have secondary concerns related to symptoms like mood, depression, recovery, lack of sex drive I'd stay away from TRT at this point. I was at 272 at age 30. I was a miserable wreck. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yeah at least I know it's not a primary concern at the moment. That's good. I'm not opposed to going on TRT but don't want to jump into it quite yet. I'll wait a bit and get tested again maybe next year. I wouldn't say it's not a concern. You have the same levels as a 65 year old man and what they should have. You can find a doctor it just might take some work. The bump of just a few hundred points could make a huge difference in size, strength, speed, and hell, quality of sleep. Don't dismiss it just yet. But do remember, once you go down the road, it's a commitment. You can come off later if you choose by doing the proper post cycle therapy but I don't think you'll ever see your natural levels be that high again unless you just have good genetics. Well when you put it that way... Alright I'll think it over. Thanks for the advice! Unless you have secondary concerns related to symptoms like mood, depression, recovery, lack of sex drive I'd stay away from TRT at this point. I was at 272 at age 30. I was a miserable wreck. And nownthe government wants to regulate testosterone even more so guys like us can't do it because it's classified as a "designer disease." meanwhile they will pay for your gender reassignment to turn you into a little whiney vegetarian tree hugging bitch. |
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