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Posted: 4/14/2017 10:42:45 PM EDT
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Profiled, sharpened, and first coat of BLO.
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Posted: 4/15/2017 4:06:19 PM EDT
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My submission to this thread. 1.5 lb head made in West Germany.25 inches overall length.
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Posted: 4/15/2017 6:21:50 PM EDT
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My submission to this thread. 1.5 lb head made in West Germany.25 inches overall length. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/309434/PicsArt-04-15-04-187982.JPG |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 1:34:55 PM EDT
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Profiled, sharpened, and first coat of BLO. http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i307/batmanacw/gear/20170414_222308_zps6thua4ki.jpg |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 7:35:48 PM EDT
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Haven't checked this thread for quite a while. Looking at it again today inspired me to take pictures of 2 of mine. Norlund about 45 years old and a H&B felling axe I got from Jarrod in February.
The H&B is hand forged. Workmanship on our hand forged tomahawks and other products is done completely by owner, Jarrod Barber, and is guaranteed for life. We use
type 1095 steel in our hawk and axe bits, which runs down the center of the blade. That is wrapped with 1018 steel. This is the same hand forging process used hundreds of years ago, ensuring the best -and most authentic- quality. New Handle finishing: We are now burnishing our handles which gives them an aged look. You will find them to be smoother, a little shinier and with an overall nicer finish. You can now order spare handles finished like this as well.  Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached FileInstead of buying the sheath from H&B I made my own. The original sheath for the Norlund had deteriorated and is no longer usable. I plan to make a new one as soon as I have time. H&B felling axe |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 7:47:52 PM EDT
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Haven't checked this thread for quite a while. Looking at it again today inspired me to take pictures of 2 of mine. Norlund about 45 years old and a H&B felling axe I got from Jarrod in February. The H&B is hand forged. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/64775/DSCN2083-188914.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/64775/DSCN2091-188915.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/64775/DSCN2095-188916.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/64775/DSCN2094-188918.JPG Instead of buying the sheath from H&B I made my own. The original sheath for the Norlund had deteriorated and is no longer usable. I plan to make a new one as soon as I have time. H&B felling axe |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 7:56:35 PM EDT
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That Felling Axe is beautiful. What is the head weight? Check out his website. All his work is excellent. |
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Posted: 4/16/2017 8:14:58 PM EDT
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That Felling Axe is beautiful. What is the head weight? |
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Posted: 4/17/2017 7:36:45 AM EDT
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I see you are from Ohio. I don't know what part but they are made in north central Ohio. Shiloh, OH. South of Sandusky. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That Felling Axe is beautiful. What is the head weight? Most of my collection came from the flea market or ebay. Heck, I just bought a West German Boys axe head for $20 on Ebay last night. |
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Posted: 4/17/2017 9:32:26 AM EDT
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Those axes are a bit out of my price range right now. Most of my new axes I bought with airline miles, or they were really cheap! LOL! Most of my collection came from the flea market or ebay. Heck, I just bought a West German Boys axe head for $20 on Ebay last night. |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 7:12:26 PM EDT
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I swear some of these handle companies don't care much about how their products represent them. That being said, I bought this boy's axe handle because it's so screwed up..... http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i307/batmanacw/gear/20170420_170934_zpsh2o1ri20.jpghttp://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i307/batmanacw/gear/20170420_171001_zpsivuyf0hj.jpg They put the massively oversized shoulder, if you can call it that, at least a couple inches lower than normal. This allowed me to move the head down for a shorter over all length. I didn't want to go all the way to 24", so I was pleased that it came out to 26.5" over all. They screw up, I win. At least the grain orientation is pretty decent. I bought this 2 1/4 German head on Ebay for $20 delivered! It's really nice! It needed reprofiled and sharpened, but not much other than wire brushing the head. The steel is made of wood pecker lips...... It's really beautiful! http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i307/batmanacw/gear/20170420_165704_zpst2hgpwsl.jpghttp://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i307/batmanacw/gear/20170420_165725_zpsreu9jdta.jpg |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 7:13:36 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/22/2017 1:56:04 AM EDT
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batmanacw, how are you liking your Council Tool Wood-Craft axe? I'm thinking about getting one. Also still considering buying a 2lb head off of Ebay and restoring/mounting it on a 23"-24" handle.
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Posted: 4/22/2017 7:57:04 AM EDT
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batmanacw, how are you liking your Council Tool Wood-Craft axe? I'm thinking about getting one. Also still considering buying a 2lb head off of Ebay and restoring/mounting it on a 23"-24" handle. https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/618ikeekHAL._SL1500_.jpg It does chop well and it's worth the money just for the quality. You can buy just about any vintage 2 lb head off ebay and make an axe just as capable. Buy a Wetterlings or Beaver Tooth 24" handle and choose the edge you want. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 12:16:45 AM EDT
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I went ahead and ordered the Council Tool Wood-Craft Pack Axe with the 24" handle. It should be here tomorrow.
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Posted: 4/25/2017 7:59:45 AM EDT
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here's my wiebelhaus. i need to take new pics of the finished axe.
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Posted: 4/26/2017 4:48:45 AM EDT
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I like the axe over all. It's a great quality tool. I'm still not convinced that the flat grind is the way to go. I have a very respectful disagreement with designer Craig Roost about that point. I left mine flat for more experimentation. It does chop well and it's worth the money just for the quality. You can buy just about any vintage 2 lb head off ebay and make an axe just as capable. Buy a Wetterlings or Beaver Tooth 24" handle and choose the edge you want. |
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Posted: 4/26/2017 8:03:29 AM EDT
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I received my Pack Axe today. The fit/finish is superb. It's simply a work of art as beautiful as tools go. I kind of feel bad thinking about getting it dirty, but I can't wait to chop some wood with it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I like the axe over all. It's a great quality tool. I'm still not convinced that the flat grind is the way to go. I have a very respectful disagreement with designer Craig Roost about that point. I left mine flat for more experimentation. It does chop well and it's worth the money just for the quality. You can buy just about any vintage 2 lb head off ebay and make an axe just as capable. Buy a Wetterlings or Beaver Tooth 24" handle and choose the edge you want. |
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Posted: 4/26/2017 3:49:32 PM EDT
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I just bought a GB Wildlife hatchet. Thoughts and pictures coming later.
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Posted: 4/28/2017 2:36:38 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/28/2017 7:44:12 AM EDT
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I'm a city boy and was hoping to get out this weekend but it looks like that won't happen and my trip will have to wait until next weekend. Here are a couple of crappy pictures I took of it in the dark here in the computer/laundry room. The fit/finish are amazing and it's a work of art. Grain orientation is perfect. It came razor sharp and EASILY sliced through paper just pressing a piece of paper to the edge. http://i.imgur.com/NW6sQlO.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/j1pEky0.jpg I can't wait to buy one of their new hatchets. |
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Posted: 4/29/2017 1:46:54 AM EDT
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I stopped by Lehman's Hardware to see if they had any GB Small Forest Axes and they were out. They did have Wildlife Hatchets, Hand Axes, Mini Hatchets, and different splitting axes. They also had a comprehensive stock of Hults Bruk axes! I learned a lot about Gransfors Bruks today. I looked through every single Wildlife Hatchet to find the best one out of 8 examples. I also went through every single Mini Hatchet. I learned something important..... I am never going to order a Gransfors Bruk sight unseen. Every one of them but a couple would have needed reprofiled to create an even, consistent convex. Many had flats in the edge at random spots, facets in the convex, or flatter convex on one side. A few had unacceptable gaps in the hang on all but a couple. The handles were pretty nice. No nasty tear out like I've seen before. The edge was shaving sharp over most of the length but there was a burr about 1" of the edge. I touched it up with white ceramic and stropped. It came out very sharp. I took it out and played with it a bit. http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i307/batmanacw/gear/20170426_191211_zps0t8hkfp4.jpghttp://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i307/batmanacw/gear/20170426_191219_zpsga65edoa.jpghttp://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i307/batmanacw/gear/20170426_191248_zps7fynsvrj.jpg I chopped through some green and dry standing Locust. It took about 45 seconds to go through 4" of green Locust. It limbs wonderfully. 1.5" thick branches take a few quick strokes. It cuts very deep for its size. The dry standing Locust is tough as nails. It cut fine with a lot more effort. No deep cuts with that stuff! I had one tiny edge roll, but it was easy to sharpen out. It was less than 1/16". I've seen this with the best of American vintage steel. It's not anything to be worried about. Must have hit contamination in the bark. I sharpened it very slightly steeper for a tiny micro bevel to help strengthen the edge. With stopping it looks like a normal stropping convex. |
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Posted: 4/30/2017 2:43:45 PM EDT
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I sure would like to see some pics of your guy's packs with the axes. I'm really interested in seeing how you pack the axes in and out. I've been trying with the idea of getting a Frost River pack or comparable for this purpose.
If any of you guys find the time, take a picture of your kit and post it up. |
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Posted: 5/4/2017 3:07:43 AM EDT
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I did not want to pull out my pack this time of night but here's a crappy picture of it in the closet. It's an Eberlestock Battleship which makes it extremely easy to carry an axe. There are a few ways you could carry it actually, but I have the head in one of the pockets and it's secured using a strap. I kinda want something to put around the pole of head though as it isn't very rounded. I don't need it wearing a hole in the pocket (1000D cordura but still).
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Posted: 5/5/2017 11:55:33 AM EDT
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I went and bought the Stihl Universal Forestry Axe. It's a 1 kg head on a 23.75" handle. The over all length is a little longer with the bit upsweep.
The handle is pretty stout. Thicker than my preference but not unusable. I might sand and refinish some day, but not right now. The grain orientation is 90 degrees off, but it runs all the way through the head so I don't expect it break too easily. This is my first axe with a flat back to the eye. The eye is pretty thick around the handle. I think this is a response to axe abuse. The eye is quite wide around the handle as well. It should be a great felling and limbing axe and a decent splitter. I would not mind if the bit was thinner near the edge and further back. I profiled it and sharpened it up razor sharp. It came out really nicely. I won't get a chance to try it this weekend. I pulled a muscle in my back so I need to go very easy this weekend. I really look forward to trying it out.    
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Posted: 5/5/2017 3:46:37 PM EDT
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NooooB question...
Why the wooden wedge, then steel ring on top of that ? |
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Posted: 5/5/2017 3:58:20 PM EDT
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Yes it is expensive. Since I do blacksmithing and have made tomahawks, hammers, knives and other stuff I know there is a lot of work in one of those. They are high quality and real nice if you are into historical reenactment. Well worth the money if you can afford one. Had the hawks for many years, got them at Friendship. |
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Posted: 5/5/2017 4:05:09 PM EDT
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I sure would like to see some pics of your guy's packs with the axes. I'm really interested in seeing how you pack the axes in and out. I've been trying with the idea of getting a Frost River pack or comparable for this purpose. If any of you guys find the time, take a picture of your kit and post it up. I'd like to have a FR Nessmuk or similar for nostalgia. But, from a practical standpoint, they are way heavy, don't carry well and have inferior straps when compared to modern packs. Then, again, I've been known to tote along a Svea 123, an axe, wear wool instead of fleece and use 1911s or even a wheel gun instead of the standard Austrian Tupperware. 
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Posted: 5/5/2017 6:35:11 PM EDT
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NooooB question... Why the wooden wedge, then steel ring on top of that ? The steel "safety wedge" keeps the wood wedge secure. |
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Posted: 5/20/2017 10:36:45 AM EDT
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Hey Bat. Need your input.
What do I have lol . It's a plumb . About finger to elbow in length. Is super light. Paid 20$ for it and a rake. Thanks for any info. All I see is "camping hatchet " .when I Google.  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/20/2017 11:11:43 AM EDT
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Hey Bat. Need your input. What do I have lol . It's a plumb . About finger to elbow in length. Is super light. Paid 20$ for it and a rake. Thanks for any info. All I see is "camping hatchet " .when I Google. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/49816/20170520-103253-212399.JPG |
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Posted: 5/20/2017 11:50:26 AM EDT
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Assuming it's a vintage USA head, you have a very high quality 1 1/4 lb Plumb hatchet on a very odd handle. You did good! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Hey Bat. Need your input. What do I have lol . It's a plumb . About finger to elbow in length. Is super light. Paid 20$ for it and a rake. Thanks for any info. All I see is "camping hatchet " .when I Google. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/49816/20170520-103253-212399.JPG Shows USA. Side note I also got a plumb victory..i re did years ago..someone tossed the head in the trash lol. Anyway to find date/estimate age on these things  Attached File |
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Posted: 5/20/2017 9:34:40 PM EDT
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Close up of the stamp. Shows USA. Side note I also got a plumb victory..i re did years ago..someone tossed the head in the trash lol. Anyway to find date/estimate age on these things https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/49816/20170520-114753-212446.JPG |
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Posted: 5/21/2017 6:01:33 PM EDT
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I sure would like to see some pics of your guy's packs with the axes. I'm really interested in seeing how you pack the axes in and out. I've been trying with the idea of getting a Frost River pack or comparable for this purpose. If any of you guys find the time, take a picture of your kit and post it up. These are the ones I bought and I may buy a couple more for my other 2 packs. Take a sharp knife or a razor and carefully cut the stitching in the area I've circled in red. This will open up the bottom to allow the axe handle to slide through. https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campId=5337559805&toolId=10001&customId=j2z9lrq36z00zk8a00004&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2F171147166393 
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Posted: 5/21/2017 11:21:39 PM EDT
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Man, that's a good lookin pack. And axe. Great photos. Thanks for the info!
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Posted: 5/22/2017 3:21:40 PM EDT
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I just purchased a used Arc'teryx Echo backpack (medium 54L) and attached my axe to it. This pack is pretty freaking awesome. I still have not had a chance to use the axe yet but I've already planned a trip with my brother in two weeks to go up north. This axe is beautiful though. It came with a near mirror polished edge (but I ran my Lansky puck over it a few times and marred the polished edge). The pouches that it's slid through are USGI 40mm grenade pouches that I've cut the stitching on the bottom of. They're PERFECT for attaching an axe to your military style MOLLE/PALS webbing pack. These are the ones I bought and I may buy a couple more for my other 2 packs. Take a sharp knife or a razor and carefully cut the stitching in the area I've circled in red. This will open up the bottom to allow the axe handle to slide through. https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=3&campId=5337559805&toolId=10001&customId=j30isjk3ml00zk8a00004&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2FNEW-USMC-MOLLE-40MM-Pouch-Single-Coyote-US-Military-Issue-%2F171147166393 http://i.imgur.com/khugaXM.jpg http://i.imgur.com/VqNNEDU.jpg http://i.imgur.com/VqNNEDU.jpg http://i.imgur.com/amZOOti.jpg http://i.imgur.com/amZOOti.jpg http://i.imgur.com/hfZ1ioL.jp http://i.imgur.com/hfZ1ioL.jpg http://i.imgur.com/B4EJiH8.jpg http://i.imgur.com/B4EJiH8.jpg http://i.imgur.com/440TscW.jpg http://i.imgur.com/440TscW.jpg http://i.imgur.com/lQauCM9.jpg http://i.imgur.com/lQauCM9.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8USCi65.jpg http://i.imgur.com/8USCi65.jpg http://i.imgur.com/mRpaDsV.jpg http://i.imgur.com/mRpaDsV.jpg http://i.imgur.com/j84uKH6.jpg http://i.imgur.com/j84uKH6.jpg http://i.imgur.com/420e2Fr.jpg http://i.imgur.com/420e2Fr.jpg 
If you don't end up giggling like a little girl with how well that axe performs compared to the vast majority of what is avaiable I would be very surprised.  A quality is axe is not a chore to use. It's an amazing labor saver, not a waster.
For all our sakes, plan every single swing. If it cuts through, where will it go? If I let go, where will it go? If it skips off, how to I ensure it won't bite me? I look forward to your successfull use and honest review of that axe. The guy who designed it and I still have a friendly dissagreement about convex vs flat grind, but he is a great guy and he can't always be right! LOL!  He calls it a wood chisel on a stick. It helps to understand him better if you look at it like a multi purpose cutting tool that it is rather than just an axe. Out of respect for his concept and his ideas I have let mine with the flat grind it and it is holding up just fine. It's a damn fine tool.
It's kind of hard to cut through a 1.5" thick green limb in one smooth swing and not smile just a bit.......  I always hit about 45 degrees and it bites DEEP!
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Posted: 5/22/2017 4:06:53 PM EDT
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Man, that's a good lookin pack. And axe. Great photos. Thanks for the info! http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_10_18/506065_BOB-what-it-should-be-.html&page=23 |
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Posted: 5/22/2017 5:00:23 PM EDT
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have your friend bring a standard hardware store axe so you can swing them side by side.
If you don't end up giggling like a little girl with how well that axe performs compared to the vast majority of what is avaiable I would be very surprised. A quality is axe is not a chore to use. It's an amazing labor saver, not a waster.
For all our sakes, plan every single swing. If it cuts through, where will it go? If I let go, where will it go? If it skips off, how to I ensure it won't bite me? I look forward to your successfull use and honest review of that axe. The guy who designed it and I still have a friendly dissagreement about convex vs flat grind, but he is a great guy and he can't always be right! LOL! He calls it a wood chisel on a stick. It helps to understand him better if you look at it like a multi purpose cutting tool that it is rather than just an axe. Out of respect for his concept and his ideas I have let mine with the flat grind it and it is holding up just fine. It's a damn fine tool.
It's kind of hard to cut through a 1.5" thick green limb in one smooth swing and not smile just a bit....... I always hit about 45 degrees and it bites DEEP!
I ordered a couple of those pouches so thank you for that! |
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Posted: 5/22/2017 5:12:06 PM EDT
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Council Tool is located in Lake Waccamaw, NC. I'm only about 30 minutes from there. I had a job interview with them back in 2005, but nothing came of it.
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Posted: 6/1/2017 11:34:21 PM EDT
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I bought a German Rhineland pattern axe head off ebay for $38 a few days ago and it arrived today! 600 grams. It's absolutely beautiful. I put it on one of the 18" handles I had laying around. The bit is very thin so I won't have much work to do once I sharpen it tomorrow. The eye is squared a little front and back. I was worried my handle wouldn't fill it. The eye is wider front to back and side to side at the top. The handle went straight in and I liked the angle of the dangle so I put the wedge in with the back side tight all the way, top to bottom. The edge alignment is not perfect but it is pretty good. http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i307/batmanacw/gear/20170601_183337_zpsjewdnesu.jpg http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i307/batmanacw/gear/20170601_183343_zpsg8xs5r78.jpg I lightly torched the handle and used golden oak stain this time. I love the result. The handle is driven in hard and the wedge is extremely tight so even without a shoulder it should hold like iron. http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i307/batmanacw/gear/20170601_190536_zps0iz8huot.jpg http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i307/batmanacw/gear/20170601_190546_zps0g1lnynu.jpg Makers mark. http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i307/batmanacw/gear/20170601_190609_zpsyptlkopl.jpg Do you see why I think it's really hand forged? http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i307/batmanacw/gear/20170601_191851_zpsf6haev3v.jpg I can't wait to sharpen it but family time comes first. |
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Posted: 6/2/2017 10:59:16 AM EDT
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This is the edge on the latest Rhineland.
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Posted: 6/4/2017 7:55:25 PM EDT
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Barman,
I picked this up at a flea market today for 10 bux. Ever hear of a Firestone De Luxe? I wire wheeled it, filed off the peening on the poll, and removed the old handle. Do you think it's work restoring?  Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 6/4/2017 8:46:10 PM EDT
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Barman, I picked this up at a flea market today for 10 bux. Ever hear of a Firestone De Luxe? I wire wheeled it, filed off the peening on the poll, and removed the old handle. Do you think it's work restoring? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/84398/IMG-4322-223332.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/84398/IMG-4323-223334.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/84398/IMG-4326-223337.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/84398/IMG-4327-223340.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/84398/IMG-4336-223347.JPG |
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Posted: 6/4/2017 10:12:33 PM EDT
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That is a top notch American made axe head with a very nice thin profile and high centerline. Absolutely worth it. Nice axe! |
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Posted: 6/5/2017 6:24:08 AM EDT
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Where do you get your handles? I would like to replace it with the same style that it originally had on it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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