I heard AB148 is still alive from the news.  I thought they had to vote on it by Friday but all I see says "Joint Standing Rule xxxxx" kept it alive.  Anyone know the specifics of this? Richard?


EDIT: Rolled into AB175.  I thought when I heard about AB175 passing it mentioned campus carry which seemed odd to me.  So apparently it goes back through the process as if it was new.   I really hope this passes so people can see it won't cause the problems they're associating with firearms on campus.

http://www.rgj.com/story/news/2015/05/15/campus-carry-gun-bill-alive-legislature/27422413/

This post explains where we are now.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_8_22/574587_2015_Nevada_Legislature_.html&page=6#i6422883

The old saying about "More than one way to skin a cat" applies here.
We may get Campus Carry this way, or we may lose another couple of bills that would have passed without it.
Or CC may be amended out.

All we can do is to keep leaning on the legislators to do the right thing and pass our bills.
We have to be very vocal as we are up against paid Bloom-turd shills who don't even live in Nevada.
Also the socialist dominated teachers unions plus their indoctrinated "Students" who seem to have an inordinate amount of free time available.

Alert from Janine Hansen.

Not directly RKBA related, but longer and more frequent legislative sessions would certainly work against us.
The anti's are always better funded and media supported so giving them more time would go against us more often than not.

SJR8* Annual Legislative Sessions
This passed the Legislature in 2013. This is the last chance to stop it in the Legislature.
VOTE: Wed. May 20, 3:30
Senate Elections Committee, Room 2144Videoconferenced to Room 4412E of the Grant Sawyer State Office Building, 555 E. Washington Ave., Las Vegas, NV.

MESSAGE:Vote NO on SJR8*:
We are against annual sessions of the legislature. We do not want the calendar days of the legislature expanded by 45 days. We feel these proposals will undermine our citizen legislature. We don't need more laws. (The fiscal note identifies the cost to be $9,451,995 including $7,167,406 for session costs.) (You may want to write your own message.) (More information below.

CALL:Chair (Senator) Patricia Farley, 775-684-1445, [email protected]

Message on email subject line: Vote NO on SJR8* Annual Sessions.
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By Phone leave a message for individual Legislators: Toll Free: 800-978-2878, 800-995-9080, 800-992-0973, Northern Nevada 775-684-6800, 775-684-6789 Southern Nevada 702-486-2626,
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Share your opinion online: https://www.leg.state.nv.us/App/Opinions/78th2015/A/

SJR8: This bill proposes to amend the Nevada Constitution. This provides for 30 days plus 15 additional calendar days in the Legislative session adding 45 days to the current 120 calendar day limit. In addition, they will meet every year instead of every other year. The bill splits the current constitutionally limited 120 consecutive calendar day legislative session every odd numbered year into one 90 day session and one 30 day session in even numbered years. However, it provides that the 90 days are "legislative days" (defined as when either house meets or when committees meet) instead of consecutive calendar days as they are now. This extends the calendar days of the Legislative Session by 30 days bringing it to a total in odd numbered years of 120 calendar days. It provides that in the even numbered years (in which they don't now meet) the Legislature would meet for 30 "legislative days" or 45 calendar days adding possibly 15 additional calendar days for the session for a total of 45 additional days.  
This additional time will undermine our citizen legislature by creating a hardship on Legislators who are average citizens and must leave their current employment or businesses to serve as legislators. It will also lay the foundation for future expansion of the Legislative Sessions.

Copy of Bill:http://www.leg.state.nv.us/Session/78th2015/Reports/history.cfm?ID=207 Scroll down to Text as Introduced.

We definitely dont need more time to make bad laws for NV. Definitely opposed to that.

I can see them amending it like the last bill.  No one can carry when going to an event in a venue that seats more than 1,000 people. maybe they should just write in the bill you have to be 21 so people can stop saying kids with guns.

The next step will be 365 day legislative sessions

Nevada SB175 with Amendment 136 passes

Where did you see this?  NELIS doesn't show anything from what I can see.  The only vote I see is March 23.

EDIT: I see a meeting on the 15th saying it was ammended and do pass.  Either way I hope this thing passes because it doesn't have the language that pretty much prevents anyone from carrying to sporting events as it did in 2013.  It would have been eyeopening to see how THAT would have made the anti-gun people happy.  "yes it's legal but only if you're a student.  You can't carry to a football game and protect yourself from being a rude fan."

Text of SB175.
One amendment, "Blue Card" GONE!
I see nothing about Campus Carry.

https://www.leg.state.nv.us/App/NELIS/REL/78th2015/Bill/1548/Text#

Not sure what you mean. Are you saying they removed the language that would eliminate blue cards in Clark County in the amendment?

No, the "Blue Card" elimination language is repeated several times over.
So it seems the BC BS may finally be over with.

I saw no mention of campus carry.
I hear that CC is still alive but I'm not certain where it's at.
Supposed to be amended into another bill.
Looking forward to any update that will explain in clear language.

Thanks Richard

Well, here's an update from an expert.
NOT so good, but we can make some more calls and try to give "Our" guys/gals a spine.
NRA members need to contact their ILA folk and ask, WTF?
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BLOW THE DIRTBAG’S HEAD OFF
by Chuck Muth
May 20, 2015

Liberal Nevada State Sen. Greg Brower, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, has been single-handedly blocking a vote on Amanda’s Law, a bill (AB148) that would allow licensed concealed carry permit holders to carry their weapons on college and university campuses.

The law is named after Amanda Collins, who in 2007 was brutally raped in the parking garage at UNR and unable to defend herself because it was unlawful for her to carry her handgun with her on campus.

Amanda has been tirelessly working to change the current “victim disarmament” law since 2011.

Brower’s shameful efforts to kill Amanda’s Law reminds me of something conservative columnist Ann Coulter once wrote…

“Liberals' advice to rape and domestic abuse victims is: Lie back and enjoy it. The (New York) Times' advice is: Get a protective order. The National Rifle Association's advice is: Blow the dirt bag’s head off.”

Can I get an “Amen!”?

If legislative Republicans quit on Amanda’s Law and kill it, shame on them!

And if Amanda’s Law is killed under complete GOP control of the legislative process, maybe it’s time for everybody to register “non-partisan” – ‘cause there isn’t a lick of a difference between a tax-hiking, anti-gun Democrat and a tax-hiking, anti-gun Republican.

UPDATE I:  Last Friday, Assembly Judiciary Chairman Ira Hansen blew right by Brower’s roadblock of Amanda’s Law and added the campus carry bill as an amendment to SB175, an omnibus gun rights bill sponsored by Senate Majority Leader Michael Roberson, which has already been passed by the Senate.

Roberson and other senators are now in the position of approving SB175 with the campus carry provision that they have already voted for/supported in previous sessions included…or killing both bills.

Of course, you’d have to be, like, totally stupid to kill two important gun bills that are important to your base.

Uh-oh.

UPDATE II:  Continuing their habit of never blowing an opportunity to blow an opportunity, Republicans in the Senate are, indeed, threatening to kill both bills if campus carry is included in SB175.

As such, some of the GOP “nervous Nellies” in the Assembly are now going wobbly on us and appear prepared to cave in and kill half the baby – perpetuating the political strategy of declaring defeat and going home perfected by former Assembly Minority Leader Pat “The Appeaser” Hickey in the last session.

Among the reported “wobblies”…

Speaker John Hambrick, [email protected]
Majority Leader Paul Anderson, [email protected]
Assemblyman James Oscarson, [email protected]
Assemblyman Jim Wheeler, [email protected]

Wait…JIM WHEELER???

Two years ago Assemblyman Wheeler was leading the charge for campus carry.  In fact, his action alert on the bill that session is still up on his website!  Click here

He was also relentless in attacking the opposition’s arguments in the committee hearing on the bill, including this devastating takedown of Caden Fabbi of UNR’s student senate…

“How is a weapon that you do not know is there a distraction? Also, would you not think that a rapist on the loose on your campus may also be a distraction?”

And of University Chancellor Dan Klaich…

“You stated that colleges are a sensitive area. Are you saying that across the street is not a sensitive area if it has child care and a restaurant? What I am trying to figure out is what the difference is. Why would I be allowed as a CCW carrier across the street, but not on the institute of academia?”

And in a follow-up to Klaich…

“Mr. Klaich, you stated there needs to be a general risk for a CCW permit holder to be allowed to carry on campus. There are 13 registered sex offenders attending Truckee Meadows Community College, yet no one has been allowed to carry a weapon there. Would that not constitute a general risk?”

And here’s what Molly Moser of the Nevada Media Alliance wrote in a story after Amanda testified in favor of campus carry in 2013…

“Assemblyman Jim Wheeler was deeply moved by Collins’ testimony, shedding tears as he responded to her.  ‘I’m sorry,’ Wheeler said.”

Yet now he supports removing the campus carry amendment from SB175…which would kill campus carry AGAIN?

Seriously?

Say it ain’t so, Jim!

UPDATE III: Sad – VERY sad – to report that the 800-pound Second Amendment gorilla in the legislative building appears to have transformed itself into…Curious George.

Indeed, instead of coming out with all political guns blazing to pressure GOP state senators to pass the omnibus gun rights bill WITH campus carry included, the National Rifle Association (NRA) appears to be perfectly content to sit on the sidewalk and watch the legislative parade go by.

Indeed, instead of turning up the heat on wishy-washy Senate Republicans to pass both bills, the NRA reportedly is turning up the heat on their staunchest supporters in the Assembly, urging them to concede defeat without a fight and kill campus carry for the third session in a row by removing the amendment from SB175.

Does anyone have the phone number for Gun Owners of America?

Here's the bulk of the email I just sent to the four "Wobbly" assemblymen.

"The honorable assemblyman ------------------,

The only acceptable outcome of this session is that SB175 and AB148 are both passed.
If that requires that AB148 be amended into SB175, so be it.

Gun owners turned out in unexpected large number this past election to give the "Not Justin Jones party" Republicans an unexpected majority in BOTH houses.
To allow either of these bills to fail will guarantee that the 2015 republican majority will be recorded by historians as an aberration, not to be repeated in our lifetimes.
2A supporters will have been shown conclusively that their support is taken for granted and will stay home or vote third party as they often have in the past.

- snip -

Please do nat waver, please DO Support both AB148 and SB175".

My name & address with phone number.

PLEASE write your own and send it ASAP.
Feel free to borrow any of my points you like but it's important to try to create an original letter as "Form letters" are pretty well ignored.

 

Not true unfortunately.  I've seen a few people saying this but its not correct as of the last 10 minutes at least.


I'm afraid campus carry was the straw that could break 175's back.  Kinda sucks as I think 175 effects the largest group of gun owners and the number one complaint in CC (blue cards) as well as many other city ordinances that would vanish.

it was an email from kvar.

OK, I heard back from my assemblyman.

Bottom line of his take on it is that if AB148 is amended into SB175 we will lose both.
He feels the "Half a loaf" that is SB175 is better than the nothing we will get if AB148 is tacked on.
He may be wrong, he may be right.
If he IS right that means that some number of "Republican" senators are NOT 2A supporting conservatives as proclaimed since they would vote against the combined bills.
This is exactly what Chuck Muth posted and blogged a few days ago!

So it appears that certain RINO members of the senate are STILL the real problem.

I'm afraid this is exactly what will happen... campus carry means nothing to me. Don't take this the wrong way as I have done what I can emailing and calling for all the bills still, campus carry means nothing to me personally. The fact that the campus carry bill could/probably will poison any other bill is gets tacked onto pisses me off! If campus carry can't pass on its own then let it die for now, don't kill other bills that would have passed on their own by tacking on campus carry

We will never know if campus carry could or could not pass on its own.  Brower will not let it even come up for a vote in committee, let alone on the whole floor of the senate.  It already passed the assembly, so it seems to have a decent shot of passing.  I think Brower is simply shielding those anti-2A rino's and the rino governor from being forced to go on record with this bill.

And to think this does not affect you in any way is simply obsurd!!  After they succeed in killing this bill, they will feel confidence in killing other good 2A bills and/or bringing forward more anti-2A bills in future sessions.

http://johnrlott.blogspot.com/2015/05/one-republican-legislator-stands.html

I love this attitude.

You would rather my tiny wife not have the ability to carry a gun to defend herself than you would bring a blue card to pick up a new pistol.

By around 4:00 we will know what is being done to us on the AB464 Sandoval tax hikes, the hearing starts at 3:30 today.
I just sent my final? emails on AB464, hope it's enough.

TMCC President is reporting to the campus that the "Campus Carry" bill has failed.

What a pack of spineless, no integrity, two faced pieces of sh!t we have at the legislature!  Over whelming support for 2A bills backed by Republican majority and they give it away  But at least we'll get some increased taxes out of the deal to ensure the failure of some of the small businesses that keep folks employed

I love this attitude.

You would rather my tiny wife not have the ability to carry a gun to defend herself than you would bring a blue card to pick up a new pistol.



If that's what you get from what I said then so be it

Wheeler and co killed CC because Roberson was threatening to kill the entire bill with campus carry.

Assembly did us well this session. Let's not lose sight of the real villains this session.

Brower and Roberson.

Those two need to be help accountable.

The way we do that is to ensure that some one BETTER runs against them in the primaries next election.
Who's up for it and from their district?

If the R's pass RINO Sandoval's tax increase they will almost certainly go back to being the minority party again, probably forever.
NOT good for our RKBA efforts in 2017 and beyond, as despite the CC chickenshit the R's are giving us some real pro-RKBA reforms this year.

We have gotten bits and pieces of RKBA improvement each of the last few sessions but we barely escaped universal background checks/registration last session with the D's in control.
So Campus Carry has to come back again in 2017, maybe starting with fewer bills will narrow the focus and let us prevail?.
2016 is a presidential election year so more voters will turn out.
It's also the do or die for us vs the Bloom-turd Universal background checks/registration effort as it goes on the ballot.

At this point I'm looking forward to the session ending just to stop the bleeding and let us know where we stand regards RKBA, taxes, and any remaining freedoms.

 

I think what he was getting at, and what I was trying to say was not in line with what you heard/understood.


It wasn't a matter of us getting to pick one or the other, or debating which one was more important.  It was a matter of having bills that carried a lot of weight with reciprocity, castle doctorine in auto's, and firearms registration system get drug down into the mud by one that wasn't ready to be passed.


I would have loved to see them all go through, but it wouldn't make sense to me to throw away 175 and get nothing out of this session just to prove a point and stomp our feet on the ground over campus carry.

how would they have killed it single handed if  it was amended on to 175? would it still get quashed without vote in their committees if it had been amended as such?

Exactly, well put. I've never been an eloquent speaker

I believe SB175 would have had to be voted on again in both houses and it was believed that votes would have changed so that SB175 would fail with AB148 included.

Where do you see the removal of the campus carry portion of the amended SB175?  The last meeting I see on NELIS for SB175 is May 15.

So, did SB 175, without the AB 148 amendments get passed?  Is it on the way to Sandoval?

Jim Wheeler posted this on FB today:

"if we had amended campus carry into SB 175, we would have lost all the provisions of 175. I wasn't willing to give up ALL our 2nd Amendment bills so someone could look good."

"The Senate told us they will kill the entire bill if we sent it back with campus carry in it.."

When asked "why", he responded:

"Have to ask them."

https://www.facebook.com/vbrookslv/posts/10204292814136400?comment_id=10204293597315979¬if_t=like



Not yet. SB175 R1 still needs a vote. Probably tomorrow.

Welp, that's it for me. I didn't leave the Republican party, the Republican party left me. I'll shoot a "thanks for your effort" message to Fiore and tell the rest of these spineless fuckers to go to hell. The Republicans are no different than the Democrats in this state.

Ah, I wouldn't go THAT far.
Big disappointment but look where some of these clowns districts are located.
When R's win election in D dominated districts they tend to feel that they have to act like D's to keep getting elected.
At least none of them went full tilt Justin Jones on us!

We can begin the recalls after the session ends.
Then no one will be able to claim we jumped into them too soon.

There's a serious divide in the party. We have spineless cowards who barter away our rights slowly and we have the stalwarts. The good ones stand no chance without the help of the rest. We have to elect better politicians. An "R" next to their name is simply not enough on its own.

SB240 has passed.

This is the FREE BG check bill.

It will also eliminate blue cards.

So we still have multiple bills killing the BC BS.
Sound like the BC's are toast, they should be roasted in a bonfire ASAP.
Incremental improvement better than none, but damn this fight is getting old.

Today Chuck Muth sent out a vitriolic broadside slamming the assembly members who failed to support CC as an amendment to SB175.
That's fine.

But he made this statement which I think is probably inaccurate, "They were more worried about repealing a largely unenforced “blue card” registration requirement in Clark County than empowering and protecting otherwise defenseless young women and other students on college campuses throughout Nevada".

Since Chuck is a professional member of media I think it's important that he be accurate.
So just how correct is his statement, is the BC BS really "largely unenforced" as he claims?
That's certainly not the impression I have had over the years.

Need to confirm before correcting him if he's wrong.

the blue card thing is probably only ever enforced as a tack on to additional charges. I know I've never had anyone check my serial number but then I've never had anyone check my ccw or ask to see my weapon either. I know out of my small circle there are at least 4 unregistered pistols brought in from out of state that noone ever bothered to register either out of ignorance or just not giving a fuck.

It's a shame that it looks like CC won't be passed again. As for blue cards being enforced, I've had BLM rangers stop by on a couple of occasions out shooting over the years. Only one asked to see blue cards. He wasn't even really interested in seeing them because when I pulled a wad of them out of my wallet he said "that's good enough". I think not having a blue card would be an add on charge, however.. depending on the officer who knows what may happen if you didn't have one for the handgun.

I also had a "Metro officer" out having fun on a quad stop by once, he insisted I was shooting with in the red line and threatened to arrest me if I didn't stop,.. then, demanded to see my blue cards. I asked to see his badge... he didn't have it on him. So, I asked for his P# /badge# so I could call and verify he was who he said he was... he decided at this point leaving was in his best intrest

You are not required to carry your blue card with you anyway. Im sure it could save you the time of them running the sn. Anyone know if they can even do that from the patrol car or if they have to call it in?

Good riddance to a wastr of money and an infringement. Terrible shame thry killed campus carry

Awesome. Now that background checks are free, but I don't believe the bill prohibits a gun shop for charging for their services and no other method is available to the general public, we can go ahead and mandate them for all purchases. You can't say it adds to the cost of a sale because it is free. Good thing we don't have to register them upon a sale and no paperwork with the serial number, seller and buyer is filled out.

True, I always have carried my BC's just to keep things as simple as possible IF ever asked.



YES!! and yes

from what i am seeing it only eliminates the fee from private transfers. will probably still have to pay at an ffl

Since when has their been a private transfer fee? It's been years since I sold a handgun, does Metro now charge the buyer a back ground check fee to get a blue card? I've never paid or even heard of fee's for private rifle/handgun sales...

This is an effort to help derail the Bloom-turd "Universal background check initiative".
Less justification for making such mandatory if anyone who wants a check before selling their firearm can have it for "Free".

Update just in!

Final Days Update and Call To Action

We have great news! Senate Bill 175 was approved today by the Nevada Assembly and will be going to Governor Sandoval for his signature! Senate Bill 175 is a great, comprehensive bill for Nevada gun owners and has reforms including:

Elimination of Blue Cards (Clark County handgun registration)
Establishment of statewide preemption for Nevada gun laws
Enacts the Castle Doctrine to provide protections for civil liabilities for self-defense in your home or vehicle
Expanded CCW reciprocity
The Nevada Firearms Coalition applauds the leadership of Senator Michael Roberson, Senator James Settelmeyer, Assemblyman Ira Hansen and Assemblyman Jim Wheeler for supporting these reforms. Senate Bill 175 has been our top priority, and this is a major victory for Nevada gun owners.

Another topic of great concern is Campus Carry. TODAY Assembly Bill 487 was introduced as an emergency measure to give us one more opportunity to pass Campus Carry. This bill is exempt from deadlines, so expect an alert from us next week when the hearing is scheduled.

WE NEED YOUR HELP NOW!

We have one bill today at risk. The legislation to create a 2nd Amendment license plate is stuck on the secretary's desk in the Assembly. We need you to contact Assembly leadership NOW and urge them to remove it from the desk and vote in support of the bill tonight. Click here to send your email!

It was a rough start, but we're glad to see our Nevada legislators fighting for our gun rights until the end!

For freedom,

Don Turner, President
Nevada Firearms Coalition