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Posted: 5/1/2024 11:19:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Emt1581: Hearing safe indoors in short configuration?? Thanks! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Emt1581: Originally Posted By 2JokersWild: Rugged Mustang is the way to go. Great sounding, very lightweight. I dont bother with my Mask any more Hearing safe indoors in short configuration?? Thanks! Here it is in long mode on the S&W M&P 22 Compact  Short mode:  And for bonus points, long mode on the Sig 365 9mm  |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 11:20:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Sixgunner45]
[#2]
About the only things I like to shoot anymore is my .22's with cans.
Cheap, movie quiet and a whole lot of fun. I've seen tons of videos (even recent ones) and the DeadAir Mask still seems to be the top of the .22 cans. From decible tests, first round pop and blind tests. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 11:38:03 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2JokersWild: In short config? Ahh, not sure I rarely run it short. Its so damn light theres no reason to to be honest. Here it is in long mode on the S&W M&P 22 Compact https://i.imgur.com/87V4eCJ.jpg Short mode: https://i.imgur.com/9iJX4Bo.jpg And for bonus points, long mode on the Sig 365 9mm https://i.imgur.com/CA7sMv6.jpg You put a .22lr can on a 9mm? |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 11:42:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ThrustMyStoma]
[#4]
mask. i have a first year release one. literally everything else except suppressd 22 is basic bitch feeling to shoot. if i added up my 2023 round counts from my shooting pleasure journal i will probably have 6k or less centerfire rifle and pistol and around 30k rimfire pistol and rifle.
do it. be forewarned everything else will become boring eta: i also have a first year sparrow. skip that one unless rifle use only. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 11:44:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By smokie: '09 aac prodigy here, it gets the most use over my sparrow just on weight alone. Does any other can come close in weight/diameter? I'd be interested in getting a backup, the sparrow lives on my savage, bu the prodigy is my go to if I do anything but shoot off a bench esp with pistol. I'm sure it's out there, I've just not looked. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 11:45:17 PM EDT
[#6]
I’ve got an old Spectre II as my only Rimfire can.
Similarly the switchback has my attention. I’d like a shorter lighter option. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 11:46:47 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BuckeyeRifleman: I've got an old Spectre II as my only Rimfire can. Similarly the switchback has my attention. I'd like a shorter lighter option. |
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Posted: 5/1/2024 11:50:20 PM EDT
[#8]
sub'd
I am also on the look out to see what is good. From my memory the Dead Air Mask was like tier one stuff but I thought I saw a thread where quality now is lacking, not sure if true so take that as a rumor and not a fact. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 5/1/2024 11:50:20 PM EDT
[#9]
Yes
Older cans aren't typically rated for more powerful rimfire rounds. Like 17hmror 22mqg I shot a suppressed 17hmr with a Mask and was sold. |
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Posted: 5/2/2024 12:02:14 AM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Emt1581: You put a .22lr can on a 9mm? Course I sure as hell dont pull the trigger..... 
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Posted: 5/2/2024 12:03:07 AM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sixgunner45: About the only things I like to shoot anymore is my .22's with cans. Cheap, movie quiet and a whole lot of fun. I've seen tons of videos (even recent ones) and the DeadAir Mask still seems to be the top of the .22 cans. From decible tests, first round pop and blind tests. |
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Posted: 5/2/2024 12:09:24 AM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By smokie: '09 aac prodigy here, it gets the most use over my sparrow just on weight alone. Does any other can come close in weight/diameter? I'd be interested in getting a backup, the sparrow lives on my savage, bu the prodigy is my go to if I do anything but shoot off a bench esp with pistol. the el camino is pretty light, but not sure about lightest. its a little long compared to some of the others. not shot it, but was looking at one attached to a gun. felt good. |
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Posted: 5/2/2024 12:09:46 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Scoobysmak]
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GiggleSmith:  I've been accused of being hired to pitch These Cans They are That Good. I DO NOT NEED hearing protection when shooting sub-sonic ammo https://i.postimg.cc/mD6MLZkw/The-Twins.jpg http://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/40561/5F58AEB3-A198-4191-B6A5-A25A2F6EF7E9_jpe-2479315.JPG ETA...damn clicking hot links is hard.....  Probably better to browse the suppressor forum but I would like to see them compared like this: Brand / Model Length / Width / weight Materials used (more to determine if it is ultrasonic safe or what cleaning solutions that can be used) Comes apart or not to clean Actual dB level if known and ammo used Personal opinion of sound: harsh, smooth...etc Comparison of other cans if they have personally used multiple types/brands (maybe rank them and reason for ranking) Company reputation Normal cost Probably missing something but a start |
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Posted: 5/2/2024 12:10:17 AM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GiggleSmith: I've been accused of being hired to pitch These Cans They are That Good. I DO NOT NEED hearing protection when shooting sub-sonic ammo https://i.postimg.cc/mD6MLZkw/The-Twins.jpg http://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/40561/5F58AEB3-A198-4191-B6A5-A25A2F6EF7E9_jpe-2479315.JPG |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 5/2/2024 12:15:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AzzFaceKillah]
[#15]
If theres any reason, it is for the .22lr.
I held off the 5.56 because it's still gonna be loud. But .22. shit yeah. Depending on the gun it's gonna sound like a bat shitting on the cave floor. |
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Posted: 5/2/2024 1:08:29 AM EDT
[#16]
2019. Aac prodigy
Lives on my 10/22 and ruger prs Late 2020 Sparrow Lives on my tx22's Been a few years since I need something new |
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Posted: 5/2/2024 1:40:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: DMG-LDS]
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SeanTX: OB2D is solid. Most all 22 cans with subs are very good. Gemtech used to offer a service to convert your OB to a removable baffle. Not sure if they still do that. @hater did this a few years ago. I had mine done a few years ago I also have a Mask,Oculus, and a switchback |
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USA
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Posted: 5/2/2024 1:48:58 AM EDT
[#18]
Cans don't last forever. I have spectre II which gets used far more than my 9mm can or my rifle can.
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USA
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Posted: 5/2/2024 5:09:44 AM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GiggleSmith: I've been accused of being hired to pitch These Cans They are That Good. I DO NOT NEED hearing protection when shooting sub-sonic ammo https://i.postimg.cc/mD6MLZkw/The-Twins.jpg http://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/40561/5F58AEB3-A198-4191-B6A5-A25A2F6EF7E9_jpe-2479315.JPG If you are posting the manufacturer's link instead of just naming the brand, I can see why they smell a shill. |
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Posted: 5/2/2024 5:17:04 AM EDT
[#20]
No.
Unless you've got a specific reason that you need a moderately quieter can. Even bad cans are good enough to be fun. If you want a new can, just get a new can. But you're only doing it because you want one. Not for much of the benefit. You're mileage may vary. |
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Posted: 5/2/2024 5:21:33 AM EDT
[#21]
Are your bills paid? Are you in good financial condition? Then you should do what you want with your remaining disposable income
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MS, USA
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Posted: 5/2/2024 5:26:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Emt1581: But the aluminum isn't Ultra Sonic safe? Thanks! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Emt1581: Originally Posted By Glocked: Titanium is Ultra Sonic safe. I coat my rimfire baffles in dielectric grease. 95% just wipes off with a rag, the little bit left usually comes after 30 minutes or so of ultrasonic and warm solution. I believe it is safe to use CLR soak with titanium too. I don’t use CLR, someone that does can probably say for sure. But the aluminum isn't Ultra Sonic safe? Thanks! I’ve always been told not to use aluminum in ultrasonic. Originally Posted By Emt1581: Not sure if they still do but when the did it was the price of a new can to do it. Fuck that. I'd rather have 2 cans. Looking back I wished I'd gone with the Tac 65 that no one probably remembers anymore but I do. The OB2 was supposedly quieter so I went with that. The Tac 65 was able to be taken apart to clean. I remember the Tac 65. Those and the Tac 67 were our 2 most popular sellers back in the day. The SOT I worked at back then actually bought the last couple hundred of the 67s made back when they stopped making them. My first can was their Tac 16 back around 20 years ago. Their lowers were awesome too, they had a lot of the premium features without the premium prices. I’ve got several of them. |
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MS, USA
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Posted: 5/2/2024 5:29:18 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2JokersWild: It would be worth reading the tech thread about the Breakthrough Suppressor Cleaner Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2JokersWild: Originally Posted By Glocked: Titanium is Ultra Sonic safe. I coat my rimfire baffles in dielectric grease. 95% just wipes off with a rag, the little bit left usually comes after 30 minutes or so of ultrasonic and warm solution. I believe it is safe to use CLR soak with titanium too. I don't use CLR, someone that does can probably say for sure. I’ve kept up with that thread, that stuff looks great. I just haven’t used it yet. |
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Posted: 5/2/2024 5:45:03 AM EDT
[#24]
The Mask and TBAC Takedown 22 are my favorites, I find it so much easier to pop the baffles out and toss them in the wet tumbler. They get spotless with no work and sound amazing. They are more than light enough for my uses.
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Posted: 5/2/2024 5:53:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AJE]
[#25]
My 2007 Outback II was rebuilt a few years ago with the monocore. It didn't take long and was well under the cost of a new one. ($249)
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Posted: 5/2/2024 8:24:32 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11boomboom]
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By somedude: the el camino is pretty light, but not sure about lightest. its a little long compared to some of the others. not shot it, but was looking at one attached to a gun. felt good. At least in my limited experience with mine, the El Camino is so light (rated at 4.3 ounces) I didn't notice it on my .22 conversion Beretta M9 (factory top-end kit) and I don't notice it on my kid's M&P15-22. It's sufficiently quiet to get smiles from everyone at the range, too. I want to try a Mustang or Mask next, but I'm not sure if I want to deal with aluminum baffles or another material (the El Camino is stainless steel with a titanium tube). |
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Posted: 5/2/2024 8:40:57 AM EDT
[#27]
I would, but primarily to gain the ability to switch configs (short v long). Although my cans are quiet, that is something I lack.
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AL, USA
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Posted: 5/2/2024 8:44:15 AM EDT
[#28]
I have a ryder 22a and an osprey 22 but i always seem to go back to my spectreii most of the time.
Shit now i'm going to get on silencershop and see what they have lol. I hate GD sometimes.
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Posted: 5/2/2024 8:49:07 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HKPDW: Just bought another AAC Halcyon. It disassembles as well as you can remove 1/3 the length and make it a super short suppressor. Very quiet with CCI standard velocity ammo. https://i.imgur.com/EEHzDdr.jpg Side question: who makes Beretta threaded barrels if you don’t mind me asking? I have a Cheetah .22lr and was curious. |
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Posted: 5/2/2024 8:49:50 AM EDT
[#30]
The cheapest factory or even Form 1 suppressor is going to make .22 sub (which is all I shoot and what most of the good stuff is) hearing safe. Spend your money on centerfire cans.
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Posted: 5/2/2024 8:53:22 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11boomboom]
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macman37: Side question: who makes Beretta threaded barrels if you don’t mind me asking? I have a Cheetah .22lr and was curious. Depending on your model of .22 Cheetah, you can thread the barrel. Apparently, there was a long and short version of the barrel on the model 87. Really Old Silencertalk thread on threading a Cheetah .22 I'll see if I can find something else for you. Tornado Technologies Beretta 87 Threading Service Allegheny Arms used to thread the .22 Cheetah barrel for silencers and offers threaded .32/.380 barrels, so they could be another chance for threading. Allegheny Arms Gunsmithing Service Everywhere I look for the .22 Cheetah barrels it's been discontinued, so I don't think you'll find an off-the-shelf solution. |
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Posted: 5/2/2024 9:05:43 AM EDT
[#32]
My Dead Air Mask is amazing.
So, yes |
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Posted: 5/2/2024 9:16:17 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11boomboom: Depending on your model of .22 Cheetah, you can thread the barrel. Apparently, there was a long and short version of the barrel on the model 87. Really Old Silencertalk thread on threading a Cheetah .22 I'll see if I can find something else for you. Tornado Technologies Beretta 87 Threading Service Allegheny Arms used to thread the .22 Cheetah barrel for silencers and offers threaded .32/.380 barrels, so they could be another chance for threading. Allegheny Arms Gunsmithing Service Everywhere I look for the .22 Cheetah barrels it's been discontinued, so I don't think you'll find an off-the-shelf solution. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 11boomboom: Originally Posted By macman37: Side question: who makes Beretta threaded barrels if you don’t mind me asking? I have a Cheetah .22lr and was curious. Depending on your model of .22 Cheetah, you can thread the barrel. Apparently, there was a long and short version of the barrel on the model 87. Really Old Silencertalk thread on threading a Cheetah .22 I'll see if I can find something else for you. Tornado Technologies Beretta 87 Threading Service Allegheny Arms used to thread the .22 Cheetah barrel for silencers and offers threaded .32/.380 barrels, so they could be another chance for threading. Allegheny Arms Gunsmithing Service Everywhere I look for the .22 Cheetah barrels it's been discontinued, so I don't think you'll find an off-the-shelf solution. I’ll have to see which kind I have. I know the barrel doesn’t protrude from the front of the slide, but if they were able to thread it and I could get an adapter in there, it could work… 🤔 Thank you for shagging down that info! |
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Posted: 5/2/2024 9:31:08 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macman37: I’ll have to see which kind I have. I know the barrel doesn’t protrude from the front of the slide, but if they were able to thread it and I could get an adapter in there, it could work… 🤔 Thank you for shagging down that info! You're welcome and good luck! |
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Posted: 5/2/2024 9:35:44 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ThrustMyStoma: mask. i have a first year release one. literally everything else except suppressd 22 is basic bitch feeling to shoot. if i added up my 2023 round counts from my shooting pleasure journal i will probably have 6k or less centerfire rifle and pistol and around 30k rimfire pistol and rifle. do it. be forewarned everything else will become boring eta: i also have a first year sparrow. skip that one unless rifle use only. just ordered a mask, so we can be twinzies soon! |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 5/2/2024 9:36:21 AM EDT
[#36]
ATM torn between the Mask or a switchback.
Mostly going to live on a tx22 or my 10/22 for furry intruder dispatching. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/2/2024 9:40:42 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DocBull: ATM torn between the Mask or a switchback. Mostly going to live on a tx22 or my 10/22 for furry intruder dispatching. Flip a coin, I own both and they are both amazing. |
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Posted: 5/2/2024 9:41:07 AM EDT
[#38]
I currently use a serviceable 9/45 can on my .22s which is very quiet. Been considering a dedicated but just not sure if it is worth it.
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Posted: 5/2/2024 9:44:46 AM EDT
[#39]
I have a 12 year old YHM.. Does the job. But hell.. as cheap as they are and as quick as they are coming back... I might get another one
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Posted: 5/2/2024 9:51:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: bikedamon]
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By speedball: The cheapest factory or even Form 1 suppressor is going to make .22 sub (which is all I shoot and what most of the good stuff is) hearing safe. Spend your money on centerfire cans. How are the terminal ballistics of .22 subs? While I adore my .300blk subs, they can lack punch and that has me hesitating on getting into suppressed subsonic .22. Which size critter can I kill with .22 subs? |
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Posted: 5/2/2024 9:58:07 AM EDT
[#41]
at current wait times and relatively low prices, yes. lighter, easier to clean, sound better.
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Posted: 5/2/2024 9:59:48 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bikedamon: How are the terminal ballistics of .22 subs? While I adore my .300blk subs, they can lack punch and that has me hesitating on getting into suppressed subsonic .22. Which size critter can I kill with .22 subs? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bikedamon: Originally Posted By speedball: The cheapest factory or even Form 1 suppressor is going to make .22 sub (which is all I shoot and what most of the good stuff is) hearing safe. Spend your money on centerfire cans. How are the terminal ballistics of .22 subs? While I adore my .300blk subs, they can lack punch and that has me hesitating on getting into suppressed subsonic .22. Which size critter can I kill with .22 subs? Up to an elephant if you shoot it 87,000 times from a helicopter. Not terribly sporting. |
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Posted: 5/2/2024 10:00:01 AM EDT
[Last Edit: walldj45]
[#43]
22 cans are the best.
 Can't go wrong with a Mustang (light but aluminum and 22lr only) Oculus is great. My OCL titanium is still on order but appears to sound even better than an oculus and much lighter. CAT SR has no backpressure but is a sealed unit and hard to find. Best sounding can tested by pew science. If I were you and only getting one I would get the OCL titanium, if not that then the mustang. |
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Posted: 5/2/2024 10:01:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: HKPDW]
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macman37: Side question: who makes Beretta threaded barrels if you don’t mind me asking? I have a Cheetah .22lr and was curious. @macman37 I believe I had Tornado Technologies thread the existing barrel. It’s been about 20 years so, I really don’t remember now 
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TN, USA
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Posted: 5/2/2024 10:05:56 AM EDT
[#45]
I was looking for either a DA Mask or TBAC 22 can and saw the TBAC in-stock and ordered it.
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SD, USA
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Posted: 5/2/2024 10:09:26 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bikedamon: How are the terminal ballistics of .22 subs? While I adore my .300blk subs, they can lack punch and that has me hesitating on getting into suppressed subsonic .22. Which size critter can I kill with .22 subs? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bikedamon: Originally Posted By speedball: The cheapest factory or even Form 1 suppressor is going to make .22 sub (which is all I shoot and what most of the good stuff is) hearing safe. Spend your money on centerfire cans. How are the terminal ballistics of .22 subs? While I adore my .300blk subs, they can lack punch and that has me hesitating on getting into suppressed subsonic .22. Which size critter can I kill with .22 subs? I use my suppressed Buckmark with subs for gopher kills to 50 yards and skunk, coon, and beaver to 25 yards. One shot to the noggin is plenty for the furbearers. |
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Posted: 5/2/2024 10:59:04 AM EDT
[#47]
Maybe I need to add this to the OP??
Since the technology has changed I would like to get one that is optimal for me.... 1. Quietest 2. Can be dropped into an Ultra Sonic cleaner (assembled or disassembled) 3. Modular 4. Lightweight None of them are ridiculously expensive that I've seen so cost isn't an issue. But they all seem to have small differences that set them apart. I WAS heading toward a Mustang but I genuinely HATE cleaning guns and even more so suppressors. So being able to grab an ultra sonic cleaner (HF has them cheap)....and just dropping it in there after blowing 500rds (or now the 325) bulk ammo through it would be amazing!!! I typically run Remington subs in my can but bolt-clacking quiet with bulk ammo would be mind-blowing. Not sure if the technology has come quite that far though. Thanks!! |
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Posted: 5/2/2024 11:48:37 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Emt1581: Maybe I need to add this to the OP?? Since the technology has changed I would like to get one that is optimal for me.... 1. Quietest 2. Can be dropped into an Ultra Sonic cleaner (assembled or disassembled) 3. Modular 4. Lightweight None of them are ridiculously expensive that I've seen so cost isn't an issue. But they all seem to have small differences that set them apart. I WAS heading toward a Mustang but I genuinely HATE cleaning guns and even more so suppressors. So being able to grab an ultra sonic cleaner (HF has them cheap)....and just dropping it in there after blowing 500rds (or now the 325) bulk ammo through it would be amazing!!! I typically run Remington subs in my can but bolt-clacking quiet with bulk ammo would be mind-blowing. Not sure if the technology has come quite that far though. Thanks!! |
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Posted: 5/2/2024 12:01:23 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Windustsearch: There we go, narrow enough to use the sights. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Windustsearch: Originally Posted By GiggleSmith: I've been accused of being hired to pitch These Cans They are That Good. I DO NOT NEED hearing protection when shooting sub-sonic ammo https://i.postimg.cc/mD6MLZkw/The-Twins.jpg http://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/40561/5F58AEB3-A198-4191-B6A5-A25A2F6EF7E9_jpe-2479315.JPG THAT'S how quiet they are  Freedom Armory Machine Works Suppressors |
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Posted: 5/2/2024 12:24:15 PM EDT
[#50]
SIAP, but Bereli has Mustangs in stock and on sale right now:
https://www.bereli.com/p5122/?utm_campaign=%5BRUGGED%20SUPPRESSORS%5D%20Email%20Campaign%202023-05-02%20%28clone%29%20%2801HWWV9KMW83ZVER2BC8JZWF7B%29&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Bereli%20Emails%20-%20All&_kx=Cx0jCD0Lnkjz2N-HUf1QvP2kjFCIfBj4S-hQBFC79Cc.PcfdLm |
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