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Posted: 4/17/2024 11:36:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iwouldntknow: False. They cannot survive in a world without Pax Americana. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iwouldntknow: Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane: Originally Posted By iwouldntknow: Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane: If we “sit it out”, the West loses access to the last 25 years of technology, as well as any military technological advantage. That’s a bigger problem, because the West can’t replace that in less than a couple of decades at least. We're better off returning to how it was. Fuck the decadent debauchery that computers created. Nonsense. Your vision creates a world with one superpower, and it’s China. I guarantee that’s not a world you want to live in. On what, exactly, do you base this statement? |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 11:37:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iwouldntknow: It's annoying. Like the Great Books of the Western World. LOL give me the cliff notes ….. 
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Posted: 4/17/2024 11:58:38 AM EDT
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I am confident that war with China is inevitable. So much so, I am of the opinion and advocate for a first strike plan. We should pre-emptively strike China with all our might as every week we delay makes our inevitable losses greater. Taiwan, at the very least should be our main defensive line. Any attack on Taiwan, South Korea or any other Pacific ally should receive the whole response.
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Posted: 4/17/2024 12:54:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Curmudgeon762: The war drums seem to be beating a little louder each day. I find myself wondering what the First World War veterans felt like in 1939 I bet they felt middle aged. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 12:59:44 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/17/2024 1:10:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Curmudgeon762: The war drums seem to be beating a little louder each day. I find myself wondering what the First World War veterans felt like in 1939 Their kids weren’t “peace at any cost”, leftist, hippy, dipshits. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 1:14:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TxRabbitBane: On what, exactly, do you base this statement? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TxRabbitBane: Originally Posted By iwouldntknow: Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane: Originally Posted By iwouldntknow: Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane: If we “sit it out”, the West loses access to the last 25 years of technology, as well as any military technological advantage. That’s a bigger problem, because the West can’t replace that in less than a couple of decades at least. We're better off returning to how it was. Fuck the decadent debauchery that computers created. Nonsense. Your vision creates a world with one superpower, and it’s China. I guarantee that’s not a world you want to live in. On what, exactly, do you base this statement? The Absent Superpower is a good starting point. Their best option is a demoralized submissive US. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 1:16:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: iwouldntknow]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: LOL give me the cliff notes ….. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarmelBytheSea: Originally Posted By iwouldntknow: It's annoying. Like the Great Books of the Western World. LOL give me the cliff notes ….. 
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Posted: 4/17/2024 1:33:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TxRabbitBane: Their kids weren’t “peace at any cost”, leftist, hippy, dipshits. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TxRabbitBane: Originally Posted By Curmudgeon762: The war drums seem to be beating a little louder each day. I find myself wondering what the First World War veterans felt like in 1939 Their kids weren’t “peace at any cost”, leftist, hippy, dipshits. Neville Chamberland was a Lt in the 7th foot during the 2nd Anglo-Afghan war. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 2:44:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 30calTBLkid: Neville Chamberland was a Lt in the 7th foot during the 2nd Anglo-Afghan war. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 30calTBLkid: Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane: Originally Posted By Curmudgeon762: The war drums seem to be beating a little louder each day. I find myself wondering what the First World War veterans felt like in 1939 Their kids weren’t “peace at any cost”, leftist, hippy, dipshits. Neville Chamberland was a Lt in the 7th foot during the 2nd Anglo-Afghan war. Neville Chamberlain his also widely considered a fool who capitulated instead of showing some backbone. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 2:45:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iwouldntknow: The Absent Superpower is a good starting point. Their best option is a demoralized submissive US. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iwouldntknow: Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane: Originally Posted By iwouldntknow: Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane: Originally Posted By iwouldntknow: Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane: If we “sit it out”, the West loses access to the last 25 years of technology, as well as any military technological advantage. That’s a bigger problem, because the West can’t replace that in less than a couple of decades at least. We're better off returning to how it was. Fuck the decadent debauchery that computers created. Nonsense. Your vision creates a world with one superpower, and it’s China. I guarantee that’s not a world you want to live in. On what, exactly, do you base this statement? The Absent Superpower is a good starting point. Their best option is a demoralized submissive US. Reverting 20+ years in the tech race seems like a brilliant way to demoralize the US and make them more submissive. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 2:47:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TxRabbitBane: Reverting 20+ years in the tech race seems like a brilliant way to demoralize the US and make them more submissive. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TxRabbitBane: Originally Posted By iwouldntknow: Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane: Originally Posted By iwouldntknow: Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane: Originally Posted By iwouldntknow: Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane: If we “sit it out”, the West loses access to the last 25 years of technology, as well as any military technological advantage. That’s a bigger problem, because the West can’t replace that in less than a couple of decades at least. We're better off returning to how it was. Fuck the decadent debauchery that computers created. Nonsense. Your vision creates a world with one superpower, and it’s China. I guarantee that’s not a world you want to live in. On what, exactly, do you base this statement? The Absent Superpower is a good starting point. Their best option is a demoralized submissive US. Reverting 20+ years in the tech race seems like a brilliant way to demoralize the US and make them more submissive. Not when we go back to the agrarian times the Constitution was written for. There will be no technology race, and we'll be better off for it. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 2:54:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TxRabbitBane]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iwouldntknow: Not when we go back to the agrarian times the Constitution was written for. There will be no technology race, and we'll be better off for it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iwouldntknow: Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane: Originally Posted By iwouldntknow: Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane: Originally Posted By iwouldntknow: Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane: Originally Posted By iwouldntknow: Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane: If we “sit it out”, the West loses access to the last 25 years of technology, as well as any military technological advantage. That’s a bigger problem, because the West can’t replace that in less than a couple of decades at least. We're better off returning to how it was. Fuck the decadent debauchery that computers created. Nonsense. Your vision creates a world with one superpower, and it’s China. I guarantee that’s not a world you want to live in. On what, exactly, do you base this statement? The Absent Superpower is a good starting point. Their best option is a demoralized submissive US. Reverting 20+ years in the tech race seems like a brilliant way to demoralize the US and make them more submissive. Not when we go back to the agrarian times the Constitution was written for. There will be no technology race, and we'll be better off for it. That’s a fantasy, and not a very good one. Nobody is willingly going to revert to a preindustrial society, and nobody would like it if they did - especially while letting China advance past us. The Information Age isn’t going anywhere. China is going to move on Taiwan at some point, and if we let them, we’ll be much worse off as a result. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 2:57:56 PM EDT
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We just spent 20 years at war with illiterate drug addicted goat headers. And lost.
Considering our current political situation. Fighting a billion people who are educated with a huge industrial base is a terrible idea. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 3:02:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TxRabbitBane: That’s a fantasy, and not a very good one. Nobody is willingly going to revert to a preindustrial society, and nobody would like it if they did - especially while letting China advance past us. The Information Age isn’t going anywhere. China is going to move on Taiwan at some point, and if we let them, we’ll be much worse off as a result. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TxRabbitBane: Originally Posted By iwouldntknow: Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane: Originally Posted By iwouldntknow: Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane: Originally Posted By iwouldntknow: Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane: Originally Posted By iwouldntknow: Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane: If we “sit it out”, the West loses access to the last 25 years of technology, as well as any military technological advantage. That’s a bigger problem, because the West can’t replace that in less than a couple of decades at least. We're better off returning to how it was. Fuck the decadent debauchery that computers created. Nonsense. Your vision creates a world with one superpower, and it’s China. I guarantee that’s not a world you want to live in. On what, exactly, do you base this statement? The Absent Superpower is a good starting point. Their best option is a demoralized submissive US. Reverting 20+ years in the tech race seems like a brilliant way to demoralize the US and make them more submissive. Not when we go back to the agrarian times the Constitution was written for. There will be no technology race, and we'll be better off for it. That’s a fantasy, and not a very good one. Nobody is willingly going to revert to a preindustrial society, and nobody would like it if they did - especially while letting China advance past us. The Information Age isn’t going anywhere. China is going to move on Taiwan at some point, and if we let them, we’ll be much worse off as a result. Chains and slavery are acceptable as long as we remain the global empire of decadence and corruption. |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 3:04:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TxRabbitBane]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iwouldntknow: Chains and slavery are acceptable as long as we remain the global empire of decadence and corruption. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iwouldntknow: Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane: Originally Posted By iwouldntknow: Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane: Originally Posted By iwouldntknow: Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane: Originally Posted By iwouldntknow: Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane: Originally Posted By iwouldntknow: Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane: If we “sit it out”, the West loses access to the last 25 years of technology, as well as any military technological advantage. That’s a bigger problem, because the West can’t replace that in less than a couple of decades at least. We're better off returning to how it was. Fuck the decadent debauchery that computers created. Nonsense. Your vision creates a world with one superpower, and it’s China. I guarantee that’s not a world you want to live in. On what, exactly, do you base this statement? The Absent Superpower is a good starting point. Their best option is a demoralized submissive US. Reverting 20+ years in the tech race seems like a brilliant way to demoralize the US and make them more submissive. Not when we go back to the agrarian times the Constitution was written for. There will be no technology race, and we'll be better off for it. That’s a fantasy, and not a very good one. Nobody is willingly going to revert to a preindustrial society, and nobody would like it if they did - especially while letting China advance past us. The Information Age isn’t going anywhere. China is going to move on Taiwan at some point, and if we let them, we’ll be much worse off as a result. Chains and slavery are acceptable as long as we remain the global empire of decadence and corruption. *eyeroll* Yeah, ok… Ironically, in your golden agrarian age, we actually did have slavery,,, |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 3:44:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CarmelBytheSea]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iwouldntknow: https://www.thebookmerchantjenkins.com/wp-content/uploads/0018368-600x376.jpg I miss having books. Post divorce it’s been 99% digital reading for me. Every once in awhile I window shop the few remaining book stores for nostalgia sake.  Edgar Allan Poe-The Raven- Read by James Earl Jones  Edgar Allan Poe: Ligeia read by Vincent Price  Tales of Mystery & Horror by Edgar Allan Poe, read by Christopher Lee |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 9:38:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TxRabbitBane: Neville Chamberlain his also widely considered a fool who capitulated instead of showing some backbone. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TxRabbitBane: Originally Posted By 30calTBLkid: Originally Posted By TxRabbitBane: Originally Posted By Curmudgeon762: The war drums seem to be beating a little louder each day. I find myself wondering what the First World War veterans felt like in 1939 Their kids weren’t “peace at any cost”, leftist, hippy, dipshits. Neville Chamberland was a Lt in the 7th foot during the 2nd Anglo-Afghan war. Neville Chamberlain his also widely considered a fool who capitulated instead of showing some backbone. Would you say he was a "peace at any cost" type of guy? |
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Posted: 4/17/2024 9:42:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 30calTBLkid: Neville Chamberland was a Lt in the 7th foot during the 2nd Anglo-Afghan war. So he was as lost as Prime Minister as he was as a Lieutenant? |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 8:13:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: FrankW134]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rno172: We just spent 20 years at war with illiterate drug addicted goat headers. And lost. Considering our current political situation. Fighting a billion people who are educated with a huge industrial base is a terrible idea. We didn't lose, Joe Biden withdrew all forces and gave the country back to the taliban. Huge difference. |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 8:40:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FrankW134: We didn't lose, Joe Biden withdrew all forces and gave the country back to the taliban. Huge difference. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FrankW134: Originally Posted By rno172: We just spent 20 years at war with illiterate drug addicted goat headers. And lost. Considering our current political situation. Fighting a billion people who are educated with a huge industrial base is a terrible idea. We didn't lose, Joe Biden withdrew all forces and gave the country back to the taliban. Huge difference. Because we had spent 20 years enriching the Military Industrial Complex and the Air Force. They'll never be Jefferson democracies. Afghanistan is the graveyard of empires. |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 8:45:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FrankW134: We didn't lose, Joe Biden withdrew all forces and gave the country back to the taliban. Huge difference. King George withdrew all forces and gave the Colonies back to the Americans. Did Great Britain lose the Revolutionary War? |
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Posted: 4/18/2024 10:49:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: FrankW134]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PeepEater: King George withdrew all forces and gave the Colonies back to the Americans. Did Great Britain lose the Revolutionary War? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PeepEater: Originally Posted By FrankW134: We didn't lose, Joe Biden withdrew all forces and gave the country back to the taliban. Huge difference. King George withdrew all forces and gave the Colonies back to the Americans. Did Great Britain lose the Revolutionary War? Gen Cornwallis surrendered after losing the siege of Yorktown. Joe Biden followed up on a campaign promise, without external pressure from hostile forces. Big fucking difference. |
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