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Posted: 1/27/2024 3:41:36 PM EDT
I have a 2018 Jeep Wrangler that’s getting up in mileage, I am considering upgrading to a Gladiator, I remember an old tread and now you can get a new one for less than 40k. why are they so cheap? Any reasons not to? Basically city streets and flat off road so nothing 4 wheel super complex.
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ME, USA
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Posted: 1/27/2024 3:46:07 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By superdoc: I have a 2018 Jeep Wrangler that’s getting up in mileage, I am considering upgrading to a Gladiator, I remember an old tread and now you can get a new one for less than 40k. why are they so cheap? Any reasons not to? Basically city streets and flat off road so nothing 4 wheel super complex. Restyle on the 2024, they are discounting leftover 2023. I bought a JTR two weeks ago and with my trade wound up ~30k off msrp. I dont think the changes are significant enough to order a 24 at full price, and the one I bought is l-l-loaded. It is my 2nd Gladiator and I love them. |
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Posted: 1/27/2024 3:50:50 PM EDT
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I have to admit, I did no research .
Just like the majority of GD posters. |
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Posted: 1/27/2024 3:51:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: intheburbs]
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Market saturation and the redesign. Stellantis overproduced.
Test drive one before you buy. Personally, I think the Gladiator tries (unsuccessfully) to be two vehicles in one. It's a Wrangler body on a half-ton Ram pickup frame. So all the comfort/convenience shortcomings of a Wrangler - narrow body, cramped interior, weird ergos, small engine, less payload/towing - with all the offroad shortcomings of a pickup - longer wheelbase, longer rear overhang, wider track. I have my Wranglers to play in the snow or mud, and I have my V-8-powered half-ton Sierra Denali (or 3/4-ton Suburban) to haul or tow stuff with ease and comfort. |
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USA
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Posted: 1/27/2024 3:54:41 PM EDT
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This post needs more Russell Crowe.
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Posted: 1/27/2024 3:55:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Banditman]
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SC, USA
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Posted: 1/27/2024 3:58:12 PM EDT
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Came here expecting to be entertained.
Leaving disappointed. |
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Posted: 1/27/2024 4:03:07 PM EDT
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2020 here.
Love it. Remember it is a JL Wrangler until after the backseats. The longer wheelbase gives it a much better ride than the Wrangler. There are guards you can install between aft of the rear wheel to the back bumper if you think the departure angle will be a problem. With 33s at 75mph it gets 19mpg. Not bad. 64k miles and I’ve only replaced the front brake pads. I would buy another if something happened to this one. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 1/27/2024 4:12:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DeltaV42: Came here expecting to be entertained. Leaving disappointed. No need to crowe about it. |
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Posted: 1/27/2024 4:15:49 PM EDT
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I replaced my 15 JKUR with a Mojave Gladiator and couldn’t be happier. I will probably always own one.
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CT, USA
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Posted: 1/27/2024 4:16:02 PM EDT
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2020 overand here, 3" zone lift with 35's... rides better than factory, pretty comfy ride for me, do highway and back roads for work. Great with soft top in summer ( flips back in 10 seconds), i put hard top on for winter ( takes 30 minutes to switch back ) little noisy on highway,
my factory alpine system system is awesome. love it, Zero Regerts..... 
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Posted: 1/27/2024 4:23:37 PM EDT
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I want a 2024 only because I want an orange one.
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Posted: 1/27/2024 4:23:44 PM EDT
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someone sent me a link while talking about a gladiator in another thread, a dealership in MO. i contacted them and they offered me 15k under MSRP on a rubicon. i was gonna bit but i didn't want to pay the additional CA taxes.
here in CA, they are still near MSRP, or they have a shit load of useless mall crawler garbage on them to jack the prices up. the pricing is dropping though. i would jump on one, but i don't want a 900 dollar a month payment. |
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Posted: 1/27/2024 4:26:23 PM EDT
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Is Jeep still using the 3.6 pentastar minivan engine? What a POS it is?
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MN, USA
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Posted: 1/27/2024 4:27:58 PM EDT
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2021 Stingray Rubicon, 2 inch Mopar lift and 37's. I freakin love it.
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Posted: 1/27/2024 4:28:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CSeaBass: someone sent me a link while talking about a gladiator in another thread, a dealership in MO. i contacted them and they offered me 15k under MSRP on a rubicon. i was gonna bit but i didn't want to pay the additional CA taxes. here in CA, they are still near MSRP, or they have a shit load of useless mall crawler garbage on them to jack the prices up. the pricing is dropping though. i would jump on one, but i don't want a 900 dollar a month payment. $15k or 15%? Link? |
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Posted: 1/27/2024 4:32:12 PM EDT
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 I got one. It’s fun to tool around in and hauls out dead deer just fine. I’d not want to daily drive it, though. |
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Posted: 1/27/2024 4:32:20 PM EDT
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They're not selling.
Jeep is offering 15% off MSRP and dealers are also selling under invoice which further deepens the discount. If you want one now is the time, they're practically giving them away. I've seen 12-15K off sticker. Unfortunately I cannot buy right now or I'd have one. |
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Posted: 1/27/2024 4:35:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DaveJRSC: This post needs more Russell Crowe. I was expecting to be entertained. |
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Posted: 1/27/2024 4:37:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Banditman: They have not fallen in price in my area. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/126641/39452575_jpg-3109358.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/126641/20231122_122336_jpg-3109374.JPG https://www.thedrive.com/news/jeep-gladiator-gets-record-20k-discount-off-msrp-amid-sales-slump Because a third of your volume dropping out does that  Attached FileDue to https://www.motorbiscuit.com/2023-jeep-gladiator-sales-tanking-whats-wrong-wrangler-pickup/ |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 1/27/2024 4:37:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FredMan: I was expecting to be entertained. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FredMan: Originally Posted By DaveJRSC: This post needs more Russell Crowe. I was expecting to be entertained. I was hoping for a cool movie thread. Got a gay truck thread instead. |
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Posted: 1/27/2024 4:38:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By buckfever34: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/55554/B21EBF90-EBD4-4A69-BC04-96AAB545996A-3109397.jpg I got one. It's fun to tool around in and hauls out dead deer just fine. I'd not want to daily drive it, though. As more people discover this, the fewer buyers Jeep has.  |
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Posted: 1/27/2024 4:45:51 PM EDT
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I DD mine and love it.
OP, I highly recommend one if you have the means. It is so choice. Plus the discounts are pretty awesome. |
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Posted: 1/27/2024 4:49:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kevins_garage: No need to crowe about it. Stop Russeling your britches. |
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Posted: 1/27/2024 4:50:40 PM EDT
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I love mine.
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Posted: 1/27/2024 4:51:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FredMan: I was expecting to be entertained. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FredMan: Originally Posted By DaveJRSC: This post needs more Russell Crowe. I was expecting to be entertained.  
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USA
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Posted: 1/27/2024 4:52:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CSeaBass: someone sent me a link while talking about a gladiator in another thread, a dealership in MO. i contacted them and they offered me 15k under MSRP on a rubicon. i was gonna bit but i didn't want to pay the additional CA taxes. here in CA, they are still near MSRP, or they have a shit load of useless mall crawler garbage on them to jack the prices up. the pricing is dropping though. i would jump on one, but i don't want a 900 dollar a month payment. Mind letting me know what dealer offered that? I’m in MO & a gladiator is on my wife’s want list. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 1/27/2024 4:54:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Banditman: They have not fallen in price in my area. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/126641/39452575_jpg-3109358.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/126641/20231122_122336_jpg-3109374.JPG Bullshit I work at a Stellantis dealership and nationwide these perform so poorly even 20% off MSRP doesn't move the needle. For a while some dealers were doing 30% off and still had inventory with 180+ DOL |
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ME, USA
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Posted: 1/27/2024 5:00:30 PM EDT
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If you're after one, the dealers will move Heaven and Earth to find what you want. Mine was able to find one of 3 within a 300 mile radius that had the full time 4wd transfer case option and it made all the difference in severe weather driving. Rare option unless you build one. They likely wont know what you are talking about and try to tell you it's all the same, so you might have to show them the option. Rock-Trak Full Time 4wd on Rubicon, Select Trac on the other trims. The shifter will say 4wd auto in addition to 4wd part time, as will the gauge cluster.
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Posted: 1/27/2024 5:04:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Banditman]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hkx3: Bullshit I work at a Stellantis dealership and nationwide these perform so poorly even 20% off MSRP doesn't move the needle. For a while some dealers were doing 30% off and still had inventory with 180+ DOL I haven't seen local prices fall IN MY AREA They raise MSRP and mark down to normal prices I got my 2023 Rubicon for 52k before taxes in Aug https://www.thunderchrysler.com/new-jeep?page=1 |
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Posted: 1/27/2024 5:07:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By superdoc: why are they so cheap? Because they can't give them away. |
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Posted: 1/27/2024 5:09:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: macman37]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Banditman: I haven't seen local prices fall IN MY AREA Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Banditman: Originally Posted By hkx3: Bullshit I work at a Stellantis dealership and nationwide these perform so poorly even 20% off MSRP doesn't move the needle. For a while some dealers were doing 30% off and still had inventory with 180+ DOL I haven't seen local prices fall IN MY AREA Right now they should all be 15% off MSRP nationwide per Jeep's website. Maybe they don't update the stickers but if you look at the VIN of what's on the lot you should be able to find it pretty easily. 
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NC, USA
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Posted: 1/27/2024 5:12:32 PM EDT
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looks like the Cherokee's are well-discounted currently also
i fell like Jeep makes a good LOOKING product. long-term reliability a little sus. if i wanted a cheaper medium sized truck i'd look hard at the Nissan Frontier -- which is typically less than an equivalent Tacoma |
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Posted: 1/27/2024 5:16:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CJ7365: Is Jeep still using the 3.6 pentastar minivan engine? What a POS it is?  The 3.6 has generally been a good engine.The 3.8 was not very well liked |
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Posted: 1/27/2024 5:16:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macman37: Right now they should all be 15% off MSRP nationwide per Jeep's website. Maybe they don't update the stickers but if you look at the VIN of what's on the lot you should be able to find it pretty easily. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macman37: Originally Posted By Banditman: Originally Posted By hkx3: Bullshit I work at a Stellantis dealership and nationwide these perform so poorly even 20% off MSRP doesn't move the needle. For a while some dealers were doing 30% off and still had inventory with 180+ DOL I haven't seen local prices fall IN MY AREA Right now they should all be 15% off MSRP nationwide per Jeep's website. Maybe they don't update the stickers but if you look at the VIN of what's on the lot you should be able to find it pretty easily. The 30% dip may well have been 50% if not for the profit shredding discount program Manley and Meunier jammed in place. Kinda shit show after an impressive few years. |
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Posted: 1/27/2024 5:17:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: OregonShooter]
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They cheap as fuck right now:
 Attached FileFor the Rubicon Bros:  Attached FileAnd why not a diesel?  Attached FileThere are also lightly used lifted gladiators on a pile of used car lots now. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/27/2024 5:21:52 PM EDT
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I have a 2020 JTR 6 spd and I would do it again. Daily drive it. 61k miles or so. Few Jeep quirks...
Had to buy some brackets off EBay because the visor mounts break and these brackets hold them on better. Parking brake cable has disconnected from the lever twice now. Need to fix it again. Takes about 10-15 minutes. Isn't it interesting how the people that don't have (or want) one don't like them, and the people that have them like them? Perhaps the former should avoid giving their input it threads like this and leave it to the people that have actually driven one... |
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Posted: 1/27/2024 5:22:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Banditman: I haven't seen local prices fall IN MY AREA They raise MSRP and mark down to normal prices I got my 2023 Rubicon for 52k before taxes in Aug https://www.thunderchrysler.com/new-jeep?page=1 Dealers can’t just magically raise MSRP. That’s a fixed price and depends on options. |
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Posted: 1/27/2024 5:25:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Alacrity]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Never_A_Wick: Dealers can't just magically raise MSRP. That's a fixed price and depends on options. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Never_A_Wick: Originally Posted By Banditman: I haven't seen local prices fall IN MY AREA They raise MSRP and mark down to normal prices I got my 2023 Rubicon for 52k before taxes in Aug https://www.thunderchrysler.com/new-jeep?page=1 Dealers can't just magically raise MSRP. That's a fixed price and depends on options. He likely means Market Adjustment not MSRP. But not much stated isn't clear or common. |
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Posted: 1/27/2024 5:26:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Never_A_Wick: Dealers can’t just magically raise MSRP. That’s a fixed price and depends on options. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Never_A_Wick: Originally Posted By Banditman: I haven't seen local prices fall IN MY AREA They raise MSRP and mark down to normal prices I got my 2023 Rubicon for 52k before taxes in Aug https://www.thunderchrysler.com/new-jeep?page=1 Dealers can’t just magically raise MSRP. That’s a fixed price and depends on options. Why the jump? 67k rubicon come on |
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Posted: 1/27/2024 5:28:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OregonShooter: They cheap as fuck right now: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/76/cheap_gladiator_JPG-3109469.JPG For the Rubicon Bros: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/76/rubicon_glad_JPG-3109472.JPG And why not a diesel? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/76/diesel_glad_JPG-3109474.JPG There are also lightly used lifted gladiators on a pile of used car lots now. Nice prices. Makes me want a base sport to put decent 3” lift on, 37s, and TruTracs front and rear. I sold my absolutely loaded Rubicon a while back while the gettin was good, and I miss it. I’m driving a sweet JK right now, but the “refinement” of the JT was really nice. A “base” model Mojave would actually fit the bill nicely. |
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Posted: 1/27/2024 5:30:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By buckshot_jim: I love mine. Same, I have a 2021 Willy’s lived on 35s. It drives smooth and it allows me to do truck stuff when I need it as well as it’s a great camping vehicle. |
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Posted: 1/27/2024 5:33:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Banditman: Why the jump? 67k rubicon come on That was msrp on mine, well optioned. I'd never pay that for one. I'm tickled pink with the deal I got, and that I was in the position to jump when the prices were slashed. |
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Posted: 1/27/2024 5:35:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fullautoguy: Same, I have a 2021 Willy’s lived on 35s. It drives smooth and it allows me to do truck stuff when I need it as well as it’s a great camping vehicle. I have a 2020 Rubicon. I put 4:88 gears in it a bumper, winch, toolbox and some lights. It serves my purposes well. I don't tow heavy stuff. I carry a dog, guns, decoys and shit like that while hunting. I've been running 35x12.50x17 tires now. I'll be moving to 37s in the fall. |
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Posted: 1/27/2024 5:37:55 PM EDT
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They might not be as capable as a wrangler, but they are more useful.
It’s a mid sized pickup truck that looks distinctive. Rides better than the leaf spring trucks. 2023 Mojave here |
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Posted: 1/27/2024 5:39:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MainePure: That was msrp on mine, well optioned. I'd never pay that for one. I'm tickled pink with the deal I got, and that I was in the position to jump when the prices were slashed. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MainePure: Originally Posted By Banditman: Why the jump? 67k rubicon come on That was msrp on mine, well optioned. I'd never pay that for one. I'm tickled pink with the deal I got, and that I was in the position to jump when the prices were slashed. Mine was 59k and pretty well optioned no leather and back up sensors. I can't see them adding up to 8k. |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 1/27/2024 5:39:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/27/2024 5:46:37 PM EDT
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‘21 High Altitude diesel here. I put 33” KO2’s and Rubicon 17” wheels on for wheeling and winter. We love it and would buy another in a second, but the diesels are no longer available. The 3 liter TD is far superior to the 3.6.
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ME, USA
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Posted: 1/27/2024 5:48:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Banditman: Mine was 59k and pretty well optioned no leather and back up sensors. I can't see them adding up to 8k. They have a shitload of options that are relatively expensive and add up fast. Other one I was looking at was $71k and had every damn thing. |
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Posted: 1/27/2024 7:36:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Toasted]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By J-Dam: Because they can't give them away. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By J-Dam: Originally Posted By superdoc: why are they so cheap? Because they can't give them away. Because they suck donkey balls. |
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Posted: 1/27/2024 7:41:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LoudLyle: I replaced my 15 JKUR with a Mojave Gladiator and couldn't be happier. I will probably always own one. I've had a series of Jeeps including the original "Unlimited". the Mojave is the package to have for everything short of serious climbing. |
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