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Posted: 1/27/2024 7:46:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Agilt:  The 3.6 has generally been a good engine.The 3.8 was not very well liked Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Agilt: Originally Posted By CJ7365: Is Jeep still using the 3.6 pentastar minivan engine? What a POS it is? The 3.6 has generally been a good engine.The 3.8 was not very well liked 3.6 Pentastars eat rockers and camshafts...they've only been making the engine forever, but can't seem to figure out metallurgy that will allow the engine to not eat itself? The only positive is you can fix the oil filter housing that's about to start leaking if it hasn't already while you're in there replacing rockers/lifters/camshafts.... |
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Posted: 1/27/2024 7:54:38 PM EDT
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Scored a deal on Gladiator wheels for my Commander. Even came with decent Bridgestone tires, plus the unused spare. $100.
Had to use spacers to mount them and change the TPS sensors but that was fairly cheap. Now I'm a Commander Gladiator, how fukken cool is that ? |
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Posted: 1/27/2024 7:56:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bloviator: 3.6 Pentastars eat rockers and camshafts...they've only been making the engine forever, but can't seem to figure out metallurgy that will allow the engine to not eat itself? The only positive is you can fix the oil filter housing that's about to start leaking if it hasn't already while you're in there replacing rockers/lifters/camshafts.... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bloviator: Originally Posted By Agilt: Originally Posted By CJ7365: Is Jeep still using the 3.6 pentastar minivan engine? What a POS it is? The 3.6 has generally been a good engine.The 3.8 was not very well liked 3.6 Pentastars eat rockers and camshafts...they've only been making the engine forever, but can't seem to figure out metallurgy that will allow the engine to not eat itself? The only positive is you can fix the oil filter housing that's about to start leaking if it hasn't already while you're in there replacing rockers/lifters/camshafts.... They are in the 3rd generation now, those are old problems |
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Posted: 1/27/2024 7:59:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Agilt: The 3.6 has generally been a good engine.The 3.8 was not very well liked Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Agilt: Originally Posted By CJ7365: Is Jeep still using the 3.6 pentastar minivan engine? What a POS it is? The 3.6 has generally been a good engine.The 3.8 was not very well liked Didn't the pentastar engine have that plastic oil filter cooler that leaked after about 60,000 miles. Had about 87 o2 sensors? |
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Posted: 1/27/2024 8:29:27 PM EDT
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Welp I guess I am off to the stealership soon to maybe trade my JL in for one . It’s all about the looks, honestly .
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Posted: 1/27/2024 8:32:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By superdoc: Welp I guess I am off to the stealership soon to maybe trade my JL in for one . It’s all about the looks, honestly . Standing by for pics. |
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KY, USA
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Posted: 1/27/2024 8:36:36 PM EDT
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Hated to sell mine, still miss it.
Stock tires/65-70mph across Arkansas averaged 27-28mpgs. |
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Posted: 1/27/2024 8:38:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/27/2024 8:42:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CJ7365: Didn't the pentastar engine have that plastic oil filter cooler that leaked after about 60,000 miles. Had about 87 o2 sensors? Yes. Everything has plastic everything now. And ten million sensors and servos. |
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Posted: 1/27/2024 9:08:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chadnutz: Isn't it interesting how the people that don't have (or want) one don't like them, and the people that have them like them? Perhaps the former should avoid giving their input it threads like this and leave it to the people that have actually driven one... Drove back to the dealer at 30mph at the most down the shoulder and drove fine. Even after we got back to the dealer the guy still had to be coaxed out of it. He was really fucked up, shaking, peaked and tearing up. Was helping him back to the building when another salesguy came out (thinking his boss, dont remember) and told him what happened. 1st thing out of his mouth was "Oh a death wobble". I knew they had a potential little steering issue but though it would be just a little wiggle, not that crazy shit I went through. Seriously thought the thing was gonna go sideways and turn over a few times. Dont know if it had a steering damper on it or not but if it did, it didnt do squat. A tech came out to look at it while I was sitting down in the showroom. Ive road raced cars since 1987. Flipped a few (and some rather spectacularly), slammed tire walls and caught up in other crashes. This Jeep was the 1st time a vehicle actually scared the fuck out of me driving and wont drive one or ride in one again. |
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Posted: 1/27/2024 9:13:29 PM EDT
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Happy Roman
Glad he ate her |
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Posted: 1/27/2024 9:21:29 PM EDT
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Love my ‘21 Rubicon. Only had it for a few months so can’t say anything about reliability but this is my 3rd Jeep so I am already familiar with their reliability issues.
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Posted: 1/27/2024 9:29:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/27/2024 9:31:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CesSnap: ‘23 Rubi with 2.5 lift and 37’s. I’ve been happy with it so far. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/85621/72106803170__9500C685-AFA6-4F6C-ACE9-5A2-3109865.JPG What tires are those, I can't tell. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 1/27/2024 9:42:41 PM EDT
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I was going to buy a Bronco, but bought an JT Rubicon after deciding the new Bronco was a pos. First Jeep I’ve owned, but had some in the family growing up. Absolutely love it.
Get a Bedrug instead of a spray liner, and a tonneau. Turns the bed into a huge padded trunk. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 1/27/2024 9:43:10 PM EDT
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The second worse looking vehicle I saw this year was the Jeep Gladiator.
The worst was a Jeep Gladiator with a truck cap. |
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Posted: 1/27/2024 9:45:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KoolOperator: The second worse looking vehicle I saw this year was the Jeep Gladiator. The worst was a Jeep Gladiator with a truck cap. Nobody gives a shit what you think.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/27/2024 9:46:56 PM EDT
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I rented one last month from Enterprise and put on 500 highway miles. It has no power at all even though it's a v6. It got 16 to 18 all highway mpg doing 70 in flat terrain. Indont think it is good at anything. I didn't off road. The truck bed is probably smaller than an El Camino.
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Posted: 1/27/2024 9:47:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DeltaV42: Came here expecting to be entertained. Leaving disappointed. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DeltaV42: Came here expecting to be entertained. Leaving disappointed. Originally Posted By DaveJRSC: This post needs more Russell Crowe. Originally Posted By DeltaV42: Came here expecting to be entertained. Leaving disappointed. Same. To OP, most people I know who bought a Jeep made within the last 10 years either will never buy a Jeep again, or say that they love their Jeep (that they’re always having to fix). |
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Posted: 1/27/2024 9:49:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By luscioman: I rented one last month from Enterprise and put on 500 highway miles. It has no power at all even though it's a v6. It got 16 to 18 all highway mpg doing 70 in flat terrain. Indont think it is good at anything. I didn't off road. The truck bed is probably smaller than an El Camino. There's a lot of power. The stupid throttle control sensor makes it have no acceleration. I bought a roar pedal and it will fuckin dig now. |
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Posted: 1/27/2024 9:52:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KoolOperator: The second worse looking vehicle I saw this year was the Jeep Gladiator. The worst was a Jeep Gladiator with a truck cap. Was it mine? Pretty hideous, I know.     |
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Posted: 1/27/2024 9:56:52 PM EDT
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Deals are to be had. Bought a 2023 JT Rubicon for $14,000 under MSRP last December. Had 3 dealers falling over themselves trying to sell me one. Happy with it so far.
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USA
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Posted: 1/27/2024 9:59:27 PM EDT
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I have a Gladiator and a Wrangler. I love them both... great off road, great in the mountains, great in the snow.
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Posted: 1/27/2024 9:59:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ConanTheCimmerian: Same. To OP, most people I know who bought a Jeep made within the last 10 years either will never buy a Jeep again, or say that they love their Jeep (that they’re always having to fix). Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ConanTheCimmerian: Originally Posted By DeltaV42: Came here expecting to be entertained. Leaving disappointed. Originally Posted By DaveJRSC: This post needs more Russell Crowe. Originally Posted By DeltaV42: Came here expecting to be entertained. Leaving disappointed. Same. To OP, most people I know who bought a Jeep made within the last 10 years either will never buy a Jeep again, or say that they love their Jeep (that they’re always having to fix). Over two years in, routine maintenance other than a new windshield. Where is your god now? |
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Posted: 1/27/2024 10:01:38 PM EDT
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If the 2024 JT gets the same full float rear the 2024 JL models got I wouldn't get a leftover 2023 model. The discounts on the 2023 JTs sure are tempting though.
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WI, USA
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Posted: 1/27/2024 10:06:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chadnutz: I have a 2020 JTR 6 spd and I would do it again. Daily drive it. 61k miles or so. Few Jeep quirks... Had to buy some brackets off EBay because the visor mounts break and these brackets hold them on better. Parking brake cable has disconnected from the lever twice now. Need to fix it again. Takes about 10-15 minutes. Isn't it interesting how the people that don't have (or want) one don't like them, and the people that have them like them? Perhaps the former should avoid giving their input it threads like this and leave it to the people that have actually driven one... Idk, I drive a Tacoma, which I love, but damn, I think the Gladiator Rubicon looks fantastic. Not so sure about long term reliability though. |
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Posted: 1/27/2024 10:12:05 PM EDT
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My best friend just bought a 2023 Rubicon for $43K. He loves it, I drove it and it does drive nice.
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Posted: 1/27/2024 10:48:53 PM EDT
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ARF is expensive, the input is appreciated
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Posted: 1/27/2024 10:55:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By superdoc: ARF is expensive, the input is appreciated Buy a Rubicon and then spend 10k for wheels, tires and good lift just to get started 
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Posted: 1/27/2024 10:59:45 PM EDT
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We've got one as a rental, right now. No fucking way I'd buy a Gladiator. Cramped, noisy, inconsistent throttle response, and while not blind spots, the visibility around isn't great.
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Posted: 1/27/2024 11:00:49 PM EDT
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do you people still the gay jeep wave and ducks to each other
 
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Posted: 1/27/2024 11:05:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Birddog1911: We've got one as a rental, right now. No fucking way I'd buy a Gladiator. Cramped, noisy, inconsistent throttle response, and while not blind spots, the visibility around isn't great. Cramped? How choadly are you?
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Posted: 1/27/2024 11:09:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: brianm]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fst96se: Was it mine? Pretty hideous, I know. https://i.imgur.com/QWkw0qA.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/zKWFfum.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/jOGdesC.jpg Looks cool with the camper shell, imo. |
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Posted: 1/27/2024 11:13:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By macman37: Cramped? How choadly are you? Right? Im 6’7” and I’m comfortable in our Gladiator. We’ve driven it to Florida and also went rock crawling at the Jeep Adventure Academy. We love it.  It absolutely kicks ass in the snow. 
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Posted: 1/27/2024 11:17:44 PM EDT
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I had a 2020 Sport S with a Mopar 2 inch lift on 37s that was fantastic for the 2.5 years I had it. Dealer made an offer I couldn't refuse and bought a 2023 Rubicon. Put a 2.5 inch Icon lift and 37s on it and couldn't be happier.
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Posted: 1/27/2024 11:19:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KC-130 FLT ENG: Got a gay truck thread instead. Hold my beer, I'll start a Ridgeline thread! |
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Posted: 1/27/2024 11:24:52 PM EDT
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2022 Sarge Green Mojave owner here, don’t listen to the haters OP. I have no regrets trading my 2019 4Runner in for it. Better ride, better towing, better performance, better gas mileage, and far better looking. My 4Runner was a big disappointment.
I think the Mojave is the best package, mine came with the Faulkin mud tires. Great vehicles and now is the time to buy, great deals out there. |
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Posted: 1/27/2024 11:25:21 PM EDT
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I have a 21 Mojave and it’s been a great truck. Does everything I need it to do……truck bed for home projects, great 4x4 system, can take doors/top off, reliable engine with decent power.
That being said, I need more room for my two kids and just placed an order for a 2024 Raptor at MSRP. 
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Posted: 1/27/2024 11:25:34 PM EDT
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USA
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Posted: 1/27/2024 11:26:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By swar15: I had a 2020 Sport S with a Mopar 2 inch lift on 37s that was fantastic for the 2.5 years I had it. Dealer made an offer I couldn't refuse and bought a 2023 Rubicon. Put a 2.5 inch Icon lift and 37s on it and couldn't be happier. 2020 Sport S https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/126115/20201223_134435_jpg-3110004.JPG 2023 Rubicon https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/126115/20231102_145628_jpg-3110008.JPG Sarge Green! |
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Posted: 1/27/2024 11:50:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By compuvette: Right? Im 6’7” and I’m comfortable in our Gladiator. We’ve driven it to Florida and also went rock crawling at the Jeep Adventure Academy. We love it. https://i.imgur.com/OrJY291.jpeg It absolutely kicks ass in the snow. https://i.imgur.com/2bADpXo.jpeg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By compuvette: Originally Posted By macman37: Cramped? How choadly are you? Right? Im 6’7” and I’m comfortable in our Gladiator. We’ve driven it to Florida and also went rock crawling at the Jeep Adventure Academy. We love it. https://i.imgur.com/OrJY291.jpeg It absolutely kicks ass in the snow. https://i.imgur.com/2bADpXo.jpeg Only 6’4” here but totally comfortable in mine, and the wife (5’4”) loves it and tells me how much she likes driving in it with me all the time. And yeah, it’s awesome in the snow, and I got mine with the AWD and it’s a beast. Dunno if we’ll have much more snow this winter but it’s been fantastic in some conditions that other trucks I’ve had would have slipped about it. The traction control is excellent, good tires (Falkens, outstanding tires) and the AWD equal rare slippage. Just on ice really, which any vehicle is going to suck at. |
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Posted: 1/28/2024 12:16:51 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/28/2024 12:25:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Liberty_Tree: I have a 21 Mojave and it’s been a great truck. Does everything I need it to do……truck bed for home projects, great 4x4 system, can take doors/top off, reliable engine with decent power. That being said, I need more room for my two kids and just placed an order for a 2024 Raptor at MSRP. Judging by the number of Jeeps that I see driving around the PNW with "raptor lights" in the grill there is a lot of envy. 
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Posted: 1/28/2024 12:33:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By buckshot_jim: What tires are those, I can't tell. GeoLander XMT’s |
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Posted: 1/28/2024 12:45:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OregonShooter: Judging by the number of Jeeps that I see driving around the PNW with "raptor lights" in the grill there is a lot of envy. https://turn5.scene7.com/is/image/Turn5/J169668?obj=car&wid=640&hei=480&sharpen=1 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OregonShooter: Originally Posted By Liberty_Tree: I have a 21 Mojave and it’s been a great truck. Does everything I need it to do……truck bed for home projects, great 4x4 system, can take doors/top off, reliable engine with decent power. That being said, I need more room for my two kids and just placed an order for a 2024 Raptor at MSRP. Judging by the number of Jeeps that I see driving around the PNW with "raptor lights" in the grill there is a lot of envy. https://turn5.scene7.com/is/image/Turn5/J169668?obj=car&wid=640&hei=480&sharpen=1 That looks retarded. I actually don’t like it in the Raptor but it’s required by law due to their width. |
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Posted: 1/28/2024 12:50:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Liberty_Tree: That looks retarded. I actually don’t like it in the Raptor but it’s required by law due to their width. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Liberty_Tree: Originally Posted By OregonShooter: Originally Posted By Liberty_Tree: I have a 21 Mojave and it’s been a great truck. Does everything I need it to do……truck bed for home projects, great 4x4 system, can take doors/top off, reliable engine with decent power. That being said, I need more room for my two kids and just placed an order for a 2024 Raptor at MSRP. Judging by the number of Jeeps that I see driving around the PNW with "raptor lights" in the grill there is a lot of envy. https://turn5.scene7.com/is/image/Turn5/J169668?obj=car&wid=640&hei=480&sharpen=1 That looks retarded. I actually don’t like it in the Raptor but it’s required by law due to their width. Clearance lights are required by law. They are not required to be in the grill. The traditional place to put them was on top of the cab at the leading edge. Ford has not gone as far as to make the 3rd brake light emulate them as well. |
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Posted: 1/28/2024 1:00:34 AM EDT
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I’ve got a 2020 Sport with 70k, bought new. Reliable, slow, but eats windshields…and it has a cap on the back for the dogs. Best part is you can take the doors off, and put your foot on the running boards…not the same, but if you ride, you get it.
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Posted: 1/28/2024 1:18:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Saablook: I’ve got a 2020 Sport with 70k, bought new. Reliable, slow, but eats windshields…and it has a cap on the back for the dogs. Best part is you can take the doors off, and put your foot on the running boards…not the same, but if you ride, you get it. Don't forget this required accessory:  |
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Posted: 1/28/2024 2:15:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Banditman: Why the jump? 67k rubicon come on Could be a diesel. Options can raise the price. Dealers can add a market adjustment but Jeep sets the MSRP. |
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Posted: 1/28/2024 2:17:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KoolOperator: The second worse looking vehicle I saw this year was the Jeep Gladiator. The worst was a Jeep Gladiator with a truck cap. Thanks for popping in to tell us how much you don’t want one. |
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