I imagine there is a or are several threads on this topic but those that I browsed didn't come close, so much search skills need help. I'm interested to gain information about basic prep for stay in shelter preparations - supplies, and ideas. Basic water and food - calculating, storing, which brands/ sites offer best deals - Wise, Mountain House, whatever. I have some inof r on longer-term plans - growing food, sustainable water, shelter, etc. I am intersted in basic, stay in place, congested urban to suburban setting, SHTF basic prep - in many ways, my perspective is perhaps similar to imagining a couple weeks of far out camping...2 adults, 2 pre-teen kids, urban neighborhood. thanks!