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Link Posted: 7/22/2014 4:34:01 PM EDT
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Did you drive by and yell "NICE MELLONS!" like I do???
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 4:37:04 PM EDT
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Free the malk!
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 4:39:47 PM EDT
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Raw milk ... figures.

That's shit is a nasty bad habit. Most people just do pasteurized milk but some progress to the hard raw stuff.
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True.

I had a cousin that was hitting the yoghurt pretty hard.

Last I heard, he's hooked on cheese.


Link Posted: 7/22/2014 4:41:50 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/22/2014 4:42:20 PM EDT
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raw milk !  <gasp>

hang the bastards! but do it quick, we're having a freedom march later and rejoicing  in our liberty. see? I have a permit.
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 4:42:47 PM EDT
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Say milkshake.

Link Posted: 7/22/2014 4:43:16 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/22/2014 4:44:17 PM EDT
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You gotta break some farmers if you want to eat some eggs.
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 4:44:30 PM EDT
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Pisses me off.  Had some undocumented workers stealing water from out fire hydrants....even a direct hydraulic connection with a pesticide tank (no BPD) and the police let them drive off with no license, no CDL and our water.  They said they couldn't prosecute.  

Sad that some Arfcommers will justify this shit over raw milk....we once had a choice, but some hate freedom.
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 4:49:03 PM EDT
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Well if he payed his taxes and didn't sell unpasteurized milk there wouldn't be an issue. Just sayin'
May your chains rest lightly upon you.  

Think you need to calibrate your sarcasm meter.
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 4:49:15 PM EDT
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Ohhh, raw milk.  For centuries people have been drinking that crap and now it merits a SWAT raid.  I feel safer now.

I think they should raid water works.  Hydrogen monoxide has killed every single person who has ingested it.  No exception.  Sh*t's nasty and like carbon monoxide, is oderless and tasteless.   Worse, it can be found in any city, any college, university, most workplaces and worse of all, any schools including kindergarden where the kids don't have fully developed immune system.  
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 4:49:31 PM EDT
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Wait....is raw milk, illegal?
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 4:50:08 PM EDT
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how many people here defended them by pointing out the dangers or berry bushes ?
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 4:50:34 PM EDT
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but without government, who will keep people from selling raw milk?
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 4:50:50 PM EDT
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I need a bumper sticker that reads:


"NO USDA.
MORE FARMS."

in the style of...

Link Posted: 7/22/2014 4:53:09 PM EDT
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Man this place is infested with commies lately.
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 4:55:19 PM EDT
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Not that I agree with using SWAT/SRT on a raw milk raid (I think it is horseshit)...you do realize that raw milk is prohibited from open sale for a very good reason right?
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Not that I agree with using SWAT/SRT on a raw milk raid (I think it is horseshit)...you do realize that raw milk is prohibited from open sale for a very good reason right?


What reason is that?  Raw milk may have harmful microorganisms?  Like raw eggs may have harmful microorganisms, or oysters, or sushi?   Or is raw milk a known carcinogen like tobacco smoke?  



 
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 4:56:28 PM EDT
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True.

I had a cousin that was hitting the yoghurt pretty hard.

Last I heard, he's hooked on cheese.


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True.

I had a cousin that was hitting the yoghurt pretty hard.

Last I heard, he's hooked on cheese.



Better call the butter police once they get to the sour creme stage of addiction they never come out of it.
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 4:57:16 PM EDT
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You are the problem.

 
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 5:00:14 PM EDT
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If he was selling Raw milk in state what business is that of the USDA?  Should be a state enforcement issue.




I definitely believe that these cases are going to make it to the SCotUS some day, under "interstate commerce".

I'm not sure what other enumerated power could even remotely be applied to these raids?




Years and years ago the Supreme Court ruled that wheat grown on a mans farm and fed to his animal was interstate commerce because if affected the market because he wasn't buying wheat.
Yup. That ruling has been used to force a lot of bullshit on folks

 
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 5:03:16 PM EDT
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Yup. That ruling has been used to force a lot of bullshit on folks  
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Same reasoning as Raich v Gonzales.
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 5:04:20 PM EDT
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Food is the ultimate weapon.  Milk must be a nerve gas then.
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 5:05:28 PM EDT
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So you need a SWAT team to bust a farmer selling raw milk? For heavens sake. What happened to having the local LEO going out to have a talk with people? Do they really think that these people are sooooo dangerous that a SWAT team with automatic weapons and armoured vehicles are needed? And who said he wasn't paying taxes? The IRS? yea...you can really trust those folks.

This country is so screwed
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 5:06:57 PM EDT
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I'm glad that they got such a highly dangerous man of the streets, I would like an explanation as to why something like that warranted a swat team.
I feel as if the resources they wasted bringing that guy in could've been used better elsewhere, but what do I know because I am just a lowly peon.
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 5:07:11 PM EDT
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Wait, I'm a communist because I don't see an issue with someone refusing to pay taxes and then being held accountable? Oh, ok.

Link Posted: 7/22/2014 5:07:54 PM EDT
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Yeah pretty much.
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 5:09:07 PM EDT
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Yeah pretty much.
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Yeah pretty much.


Makes sense [img]http://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/smiley_abused.gif[/img

I could really give a shit less about raw milk and admittedly and am not well versed with the policy/reasoning on the matter so I don't care whether its raw or not. I only included that in my original post as to not cherry pick. But I see absolutely nothing wrong with tax laws being enforced or someone skirting around paying their taxes being caught.
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 5:09:12 PM EDT
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Because if you don't they show up and kill you... "For your safety" of course.
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 5:09:58 PM EDT
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Yeah pretty much.
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Yeah pretty much.


Taxes are serious business.



http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1646094_NYPD_Kill_Man_by_Placing_him_in_Chokehold_and_Slamming_Face_to_Sidewalk___video.html



 
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 5:10:17 PM EDT
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Makes sense
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Yeah pretty much.


Makes sense




Say Ten Ayn Rands and commie no more.
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 5:10:35 PM EDT
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yeah, I try to stay away from it.  I'm drinking a half assed concoction tonight;  sweetened coconut milk, ice, pinapple chunks, rum, and ice all blended together.  I feel it's safe.     I could never find the nipples on a coconut so I have to buy mine in a can.  
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 5:12:28 PM EDT
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Otherwise known as gateway milk. As they become addicted they need it in pure, undiluted form. I understand skim milk is used to ease withdrawal in the dairy addict rehab centers.
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 5:19:52 PM EDT
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So you need a SWAT team to bust a farmer selling raw milk? For heavens sake. What happened to having the local LEO going out to have a talk with people? Do they really think that these people are sooooo dangerous that a SWAT team with automatic weapons and armoured vehicles are needed? And who said he wasn't paying taxes? The IRS? yea...you can really trust those folks.



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It's conditioning



 
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 5:20:01 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 7/22/2014 5:38:41 PM EDT
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Not that I agree with using SWAT/SRT on a raw milk raid (I think it is horseshit)...you do realize that raw milk is prohibited from open sale for a very good reason right?
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Not that I agree with using SWAT/SRT on a raw milk raid (I think it is horseshit)...you do realize that raw milk is prohibited from open sale for a very good reason right?


You do realize it is legal in 26 states, and legal if you buy herd shares in another 11.

And legal in another 3 states if it is sold for *wink*wink*  pet food.

It's only illegal in 10 states.

Link Posted: 7/22/2014 5:43:43 PM EDT
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State by State Guide
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 5:47:05 PM EDT
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I feel safer already. At least they are making good use of those left over MRAP's.
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 5:49:15 PM EDT
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DV8....you talkn bout down by Waxhaw? I seen a bunch of deputies blocking the road and Hiway Patrol putting on Kevlar. Not sure on the MRAPS...There were some vehicles off in the edge of the woods. When word got back to me about the farmer and the milk I kinda got worried cause I'm sitting in my vehicle with fresh eggs from my chickens in the back seat taking them to Father in Law.
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 5:51:51 PM EDT
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DV8....you talkn bout down by Waxhaw? I seen a bunch of deputies blocking the road and Hiway Patrol putting on Kevlar. Not sure on the MRAPS...There were some vehicles off in the edge of the woods. When word got back to me about the farmer and the milk I kinda got worried cause I'm sitting in my vehicle with fresh eggs Biological Weapon Incubators from my chickens in the back seat taking them to Father in Law.
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Link Posted: 7/22/2014 5:55:53 PM EDT
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Where in NC?

Link Posted: 7/22/2014 6:05:01 PM EDT
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Waxhaw is where DV8 works

 
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 6:06:29 PM EDT
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Never gonna happen.

We are quickly becoming 'Germany' in our mindset about laws and government.  If it is 'the law' people just cluck their tongues and shut their eyes.

TRG
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Never gonna happen.

We are quickly becoming 'Germany' in our mindset about laws and government.  If it is 'the law' people just cluck their tongues and shut their eyes.

TRG



Except when the government itself breaks the law, in which case nobody gives a shit because they got their "special interest" taken care of.
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 6:08:29 PM EDT
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If he was selling Raw milk in state what business is that of the USDA?  Should be a state enforcement issue.


I definitely believe that these cases are going to make it to the SCotUS some day, under "interstate commerce".
I'm not sure what other enumerated power could even remotely be applied to these raids?


Years and years ago the Supreme Court ruled that wheat grown on a mans farm and fed to his animal was interstate commerce because if affected the market because he wasn't buying wheat.


That particular court should have been tarred and feathered, and in 1780 probably would have been.  Just sayin'......just because some dude in a black robe said it's good, doesn't make it so.
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 6:10:08 PM EDT
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Man this place is infested with commies lately.
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Man this place is infested with commies lately.


Probably infiltrating us just like every other community (schools, military, LE, courts, feminists, you name it).
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 6:13:28 PM EDT
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Waxhaw is where DV8 works  


Sounds about right for Union County if that's the case.
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 6:24:23 PM EDT
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Sounds about right for Union County if that's the case.
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Waxhaw is where DV8 works
Sounds about right for Union County if that's the case.
Union was a good escape from Meck, I live in Gaston though.

 
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 6:27:07 PM EDT
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Fucking this. Don't forget, it wasn't too long ago that all you could get was raw milk. Remember the milk man driving his truck around? There was a reason people only got 1 or 2 quarts at a time. It was raw milk, straight from the local dairy.
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/Thread...... Prophets they were.
Link Posted: 7/22/2014 6:30:03 PM EDT
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Union was a good escape from Meck, I live in Gaston though.  
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Sounds about right for Union County if that's the case.
Union was a good escape from Meck, I live in Gaston though.  


In fairness, anywhere is better than Mecklenburg.

(Well maybe not Anson, Robeson, Pasquotank, and Durham counties).
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If there was before, there probably wasn't afterwards.
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