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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:02:57 PM EDT
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I've attended the funerals of three fine upstanding officers that I knew and worked with.
Police Officer Jose Lazaro Somohano Miami-Dade Police Department, Florida EOW: Thursday, September 13, 2007 Bio & Incident Details Age: 37 Tour: 4 years Badge # 4996 Cause: Gunfire Incident Date: Thursday, September 13, 2007 Weapon: Rifle; AK-47 Suspect: Shot and killed Police Officer Jose Somohano was shot and killed during a traffic stop. Officer Somohano and his partner observed a vehicle being driven erratically. When they attempted to stop the vehicle, the driver fled on foot into a house. Officer Somohano and his partner called for back-up, and two officers who were involved in a nearby surveillance operation responded. When the two back-up officers arrived, the suspect opened fire on all four officers through a window in the house. Officer Somohano was shot and killed and the other three officers were wounded. The suspect was located later that day in an apartment complex by members of the Broward County Sheriff's Department. He was shot and killed by the Miami-Dade SWAT team after opening fire on them when they attempted to take him into custody. Officer Somohano had served with the Miami-Dade Police Department for four years, and had previously served with the Miami-Dade Public Schools Police Department. He is survived by his wife and two children. Detective Roger Castillo Miami-Dade Police Department, Florida EOW: Thursday, January 20, 2011 Bio & Incident Details Age: 41 Tour: 21 years Badge # 1725 Cause: Gunfire Incident Date: Thursday, January 20, 2011 Weapon: Handgun; .40 caliber Suspect: Shot and killed Detectives Roger Castillo and Amanda Haworth were shot and killed while serving a felony warrant on a man wanted for murder. The detectives, along with two other members of a regional task force, had gone to a home near the intersection of NW Seventh Avenue and 69th Street. Upon making contact with an occupant of the home, someone inside immediately opened fire, striking Detective Castillo and Detective Haworth. Another detective on the scene returned fire and killed the suspect. Detective Castillo succumbed to his wounds at the scene. Detective Haworth was transported to a local hospital where she passed away during surgery. Detective Castillo had served with the Miami-Dade Police Department for 21 years. He is survived by his wife, three sons, and parents. His wife also served as an officer with the Miami-Dade Police Department. Detective Amanda Lynn Haworth Miami-Dade Police Department, Florida EOW: Thursday, January 20, 2011 Bio & Incident Details Age: 44 Tour: 23 years Badge # 2700 Cause: Gunfire Incident Date: Thursday, January 20, 2011 Weapon: Handgun; .40 caliber Suspect: Shot and killed Detectives Amanda Haworth and Roger Castillo were shot and killed while serving a felony warrant on a man wanted for murder. The detectives, along with two other members of a regional task force, had gone to a home near the intersection of NW Seventh Avenue and 69th Street. Upon making contact with an occupant of the home, someone inside immediately opened fire, striking Detective Castillo and Detective Haworth. Another detective on the scene returned fire and killed the suspect. Detective Castillo succumbed to his wounds at the scene. Detective Haworth was transported to a local hospital where she passed away during surgery. Detective Haworth had served with the Miami-Dade Police Department for 23 years. She is survived by her son, parents, step-parents, and three sisters. All three were fine upstanding officers and members of the community. Seeing this shit from society pisses me the fuck off. I remember when we did the memorial service for Jose...  during that time a BSO Sgt was killed and also an officer from the Tampa area. |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:03:08 PM EDT
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I just got done reading the last thread.
Anyone shit all over this one yet? 
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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:04:21 PM EDT
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I just got done reading the last thread.
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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:06:24 PM EDT
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I just got done reading the last thread.
Anyone shit all over this one yet? It's still early. And if they do, "The trial shall not be lengthy." |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:07:27 PM EDT
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Chilling words Red Goat..........CHILLING WORDS.
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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:08:57 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:09:01 PM EDT
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............. All three were fine upstanding officers and members of the community. Seeing this shit from society pisses me the fuck off. I remember when we did the memorial service for Jose... during that time a BSO Sgt was killed and also an officer from the Tampa area.
Jesus Christ.............my eyes are all watered up.
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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:09:30 PM EDT
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RIP
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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:09:50 PM EDT
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Chilling words Red Goat..........CHILLING WORDS. Yeah, but I'm the asshole here, remember? 
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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:10:35 PM EDT
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All this and at Xmas time.........God Damn those mother fucking libtards!!
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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:10:59 PM EDT
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Yeah, but I'm the asshole here, remember?
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Chilling words Red Goat..........CHILLING WORDS. Yeah, but I'm the asshole here, remember?
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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:16:09 PM EDT
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If you knew how it is among LE, you might be amazed at how utterly critical we are of each other, and how we try to share lessons learned, best practices, and dissemination of those hard won lessons. That's the problem. You shouldn't have to be an insider to see it. You don't. You have to take some time to understand why things are done the way they're done. The reasons often don't justify the lack of accountability. Unfortunately, due to civil service rules, and other vagaries, and the fact that the police are not a doctrinally driven, or uniformly led or disciplined bloc, true transparency cannot be achieved. That leads to distrust and suspicion between agenices and the public.Personnel issues cannot be released, leading individuals to believe there's a cover-up, where none exists. This is not to say that there's never a coverup, screw up, or down right fuckup, and scumbags are covering for scumbags. In my nearly 9 years of civilian policing, I've seen a surprising number of LEOs get canned from my agency, the municipality, and the Staties, for some really good reasons, and for stuff that no average citizen would even consider being disciplined or lose their job over. Due to privacy laws and CS rules, the information isn't released to the general public. A good example of weird violations is Extorris' speaking to white socks, certain kind of T-shirts, etc. |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:16:42 PM EDT
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Eric Garner's mother: 'I'm standing here in sorrow about losing those police officers, we stand with the families' - @ABC7NY |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:17:12 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:18:35 PM EDT
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I wonder what it is like to work for a mother fucker who absolutely hates your fucking guts and really doesn't care if you live or die?
I was spoiled I never REMOTELY had a boss like that. |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:18:41 PM EDT
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Very sad.
Predictable though considering all the hatred spread by the left lately. |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:24:36 PM EDT
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[div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(189, 189, 189);']I think the "Them" in "Us vs Them" have just declared war on "Us". [div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(189, 189, 189);'] [div style='font-family: tahoma, arial; background-color: rgb(189, 189, 189);']Watch your six folks.... those in power have been pushing for shit like this to happen. I have a feeling this is just the beginning. We've been getting downwind intel for many weeks on shitheads chattering about killing cops. Colorado Springs had some Gangster Disciples tool saying they been given the go-ahead to go after cops. What;s sad are the useful idiots parroting this crap now, even in my peaceful state and town. Funny thing is, highest per capita gun ownership, lowest crime; idiots can't do the math very well. |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:24:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was not going to even give him one of those. Wasn't there a thread here about NY banning toy guns now?  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: They should put the mayor in a cop uniform give him a box of doughnuts and handcuff him to the steering wheel of a marked car and park it in the middle of that shit hole for a few days. See how it goes for him.  I was not going to even give him one of those. Wasn't there a thread here about NY banning toy guns now? It's Teh Ghey thing in NY |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:24:44 PM EDT
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Eric Garner's mother: 'I'm standing here in sorrow about losing those police officers, we stand with the families' - @ABC7NY
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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:25:09 PM EDT
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I wonder what it is like to work for a mother fucker who absolutely hates your fucking guts and really doesn't care if you live or die? You get used to it. |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:25:50 PM EDT
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I wonder what it is like to work for a mother fucker who absolutely hates your fucking guts and really doesn't care if you live or die? You get used to it. What a terrible way to work.
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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:27:10 PM EDT
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Eric Garner's mother: 'I'm standing here in sorrow about losing those police officers, we stand with the families' - @ABC7NYhttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v361/Extorris/Gifs/jack.gif Indeed! |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:27:28 PM EDT
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Don't worry about that. The insurance claim if a cop gets killed on duty is very very generous to his or her family. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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RIP Officers Liu and Ramos. May our brotherhood protect and watch over your family as your watch has came to an end. any word on a fund for the families? Not necessarily. I carry my own life insurance through USAA. If I get killed on duty, my survivors get a years pay, just under 50K and a small death benefit, about 3K. |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:28:35 PM EDT
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.................. Not necessarily. I carry my own life insurance through USAA. If I get killed on duty, my survivors get a years pay, just under 50K and a small death benefit, about 3K. Increase the coverage. And do it NOW. |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:29:12 PM EDT
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Nothing new to those of us who worked the ghetto. I remember being helped out of the ER at NCB hospital by fellow cops after sustaining an injury to my leg in a foot pursuit. I was in full uniform as were the 2 other guys were helping me walk. My foot was wrapped up, obviously injured. I was laughed at by 2 separate groups of ghetto dwellers. They were gleeful to see an injured Police Officer. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I am glad I have never had to witness such down here. I don't know if I could keep my composure. Reminds me of when we were boarding buses headed for Ground Zero on 9/12/2001 and a passerby told us "I wish more of you died yesterday". Nothing new to those of us who worked the ghetto. I remember being helped out of the ER at NCB hospital by fellow cops after sustaining an injury to my leg in a foot pursuit. I was in full uniform as were the 2 other guys were helping me walk. My foot was wrapped up, obviously injured. I was laughed at by 2 separate groups of ghetto dwellers. They were gleeful to see an injured Police Officer. That is disgusting.
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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:31:25 PM EDT
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Not necessarily. I carry my own life insurance through USAA. If I get killed on duty, my survivors get a years pay, just under 50K and a small death benefit, about 3K. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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RIP Officers Liu and Ramos. May our brotherhood protect and watch over your family as your watch has came to an end. any word on a fund for the families? Not necessarily. I carry my own life insurance through USAA. If I get killed on duty, my survivors get a years pay, just under 50K and a small death benefit, about 3K. https://www.psob.gov/benefits_by_year.html# Looks like $330k from the feds alone. |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:32:37 PM EDT
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Yep. Let's see who gets banned over this thread. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It was cold blooded murder. Yep. Let's see who gets banned over this thread. would be easier to just close the thread now, or maybe never open it. Whoops..................
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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:32:50 PM EDT
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You're the accountability. You're the person who elected the politicians who passed the laws and appointed the judges who read the history of law in this country and applied it. You're also the person who has to take the time to study the reasons why they do what they do, or else you're raging at airplane builders because submarines can't fly. And if you don't take the time to understand it, then don't be surprised when people who did learn it do things that you don't like. Submarines can't fly. Sorry. Thank you, well said. |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:33:31 PM EDT
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It was cold blooded murder. Yep. Let's see who gets banned over this thread. would be easier to just close the thread now, or maybe never open it. Whoops.................. Hunting over bait?
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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:38:07 PM EDT
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Wut? ETA: Oh you mean you and Sylvan last night. I didn't take your posts that way FWIW. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Chilling words Red Goat..........CHILLING WORDS. Yeah, but I'm the asshole here, remember?
TRG Wut? ETA: Oh you mean you and Sylvan last night. I didn't take your posts that way FWIW. I should have spent more time explaining the post, but, it was more interesting watching people react to it. TRG |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:38:23 PM EDT
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That is disgusting.
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I am glad I have never had to witness such down here. I don't know if I could keep my composure. Reminds me of when we were boarding buses headed for Ground Zero on 9/12/2001 and a passerby told us "I wish more of you died yesterday". Nothing new to those of us who worked the ghetto. I remember being helped out of the ER at NCB hospital by fellow cops after sustaining an injury to my leg in a foot pursuit. I was in full uniform as were the 2 other guys were helping me walk. My foot was wrapped up, obviously injured. I was laughed at by 2 separate groups of ghetto dwellers. They were gleeful to see an injured Police Officer. That is disgusting.
July 2007, I was struck by a gang banger when he attempted to run two of us over while arresting his brother for armed robbery. Two knee surgeries and having to wear a knee brace. Fucker fled to Mexico. The shitbag's mother was quoted "That cop should have died!".
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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:41:22 PM EDT
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You're the accountability. You're the person who elected the politicians who passed the laws and appointed the judges who read the history of law in this country and applied it. You're also the person who has to take the time to study the reasons why they do what they do, or else you're raging at airplane builders because submarines can't fly. And if you don't take the time to understand it, then don't be surprised when people who did learn it do things that you don't like. Submarines can't fly. Sorry. Thank you, well said. 
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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:41:23 PM EDT
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Yeah, but I'm the asshole here, remember?
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Chilling words Red Goat..........CHILLING WORDS. Yeah, but I'm the asshole here, remember?
TRG Meh, haters gonna hate brother. 
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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:42:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, but I'm the asshole here, remember? TRG Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Chilling words Red Goat..........CHILLING WORDS. Yeah, but I'm the asshole here, remember? TRG BTW. If I dont get to to see you posting before Christmas. Have a safe and Merry Christmas TRG, with a sober Happy New Year. Also. Just get your ass safely back here state side. |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:42:17 PM EDT
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Very sad. Predictable though considering all the hatred spread by the left lately. Hatred that has been validated/encouraged by assholes in leadership positions. Starting at the very top. Does anyone think "they" are surprised? Shocked? Think of a name, visualize that person & then ask yourself if you think they are disappointed or upset that two non-Black cops were executed in the street. This is what they WANT to happen. This is what they NEED to happen. This is what they PLANNED to happen. Fuck be upon them.
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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:43:46 PM EDT
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Wait. I'm a bigger ASSHOLE than you. Just ask Site Staff.
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Chilling words Red Goat..........CHILLING WORDS. Yeah, but I'm the asshole here, remember?
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BTW. If I dont get to to see you posting before Christmas. Have a safe and Merry Christmas TRG, with a sober Happy New Year. Also. Just get your ass safely back here state side. Uhm ... I'm posting from my couch right now in Texas. Stateside? TRG |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:43:52 PM EDT
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Sadly, we knew this was coming because of the tone from "leadership" in this country. You LEOs stay safe out there and keep your heads on a swivel.
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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:44:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Eric Garner's mother: 'I'm standing here in sorrow about losing those police officers, we stand with the families' - @ABC7NYLooks like Jack will be here to stay today. CYA everywhere in the media. Hope he doesn't tire out. |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:46:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Uhm ... I'm posting from my couch right now in Texas. Stateside? TRG Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Chilling words Red Goat..........CHILLING WORDS. Yeah, but I'm the asshole here, remember? TRG BTW. If I dont get to to see you posting before Christmas. Have a safe and Merry Christmas TRG, with a sober Happy New Year. Also. Just get your ass safely back here state side. Uhm ... I'm posting from my couch right now in Texas. Stateside? TRG   TheRedGoat  Team Member Joined: Jan 2001  SOMGood. At least your back |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:47:12 PM EDT
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No. This says it all. The kid with the phone cant believe it actually happened. The fear in his voice tells it all. Quote HistoryQuoted:
The fear in his voice tells it all. Agreed. The person filming sounds shocked and concerned...could be way off but thats my gut feeling. |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:48:38 PM EDT
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The anger and vitriol I have in me.... this shit is going to come to a head soon. For those that support such attacks are the lowest dregs of society. That's it...
I hear yah man...just keep the comments level if your still employed. Hate to see some assbag get people strung up over an internet board post. |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:48:56 PM EDT
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You need to update your membership info.
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Chilling words Red Goat..........CHILLING WORDS. Yeah, but I'm the asshole here, remember?
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BTW. If I dont get to to see you posting before Christmas. Have a safe and Merry Christmas TRG, with a sober Happy New Year. Also. Just get your ass safely back here state side. Uhm ... I'm posting from my couch right now in Texas. Stateside? TRG
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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:49:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Agreed. The person filming sounds shocked and concerned...could be way off but thats my gut feeling. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The fear in his voice tells it all. Agreed. The person filming sounds shocked and concerned...could be way off but thats my gut feeling. Sounds like he has more concerned about what happened than the adults that he knows. |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:49:10 PM EDT
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July 2007, I was struck by a gang banger when he attempted to run two of us over while arresting his brother for armed robbery. Two knee surgeries and having to wear a knee brace. Fucker fled to Mexico. The shitbag's mother was quoted "That cop should have died!". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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July 2007, I was struck by a gang banger when he attempted to run two of us over while arresting his brother for armed robbery. Two knee surgeries and having to wear a knee brace. Fucker fled to Mexico. The shitbag's mother was quoted "That cop should have died!". I'm sorry! I should stay away from these threads, it's getting more and more difficult to remain optimistic. |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:49:26 PM EDT
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Sadly, we knew this was coming because of the tone from "leadership" in this country. You LEOs stay safe out there and keep your heads on a swivel. ...which happen to be the same group that has a hardon for citizen disarmament. There's a lesson in there somewhere. |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:49:43 PM EDT
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I hear yah man...just keep the comments level if your still employed. Hate to see some assbag get people strung up over an internet board post. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The anger and vitriol I have in me.... this shit is going to come to a head soon. For those that support such attacks are the lowest dregs of society. That's it...
I hear yah man...just keep the comments level if your still employed. Hate to see some assbag get people strung up over an internet board post. 
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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:51:33 PM EDT
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...which happen to be the same group that has a hardon for citizen disarmament. There's a lesson in there somewhere. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:52:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well played. TRG Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: BTW. If I dont get to to see you posting before Christmas. Have a safe and Merry Christmas TRG, with a sober Happy New Year. Also. Just get your ass safely back here state side. Uhm ... I'm posting from my couch right now in Texas. Stateside? TRG http://www.ar15.com/media/images/xAvatar/981.GIF [div style='padding-bottom: 6px;']TheRedGoat Team Member Joined: Jan 2001 SOMGood. At least your back Well played. TRG  Its a Sunday |
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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:52:55 PM EDT
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The anger and vitriol I have in me.... this shit is going to come to a head soon. For those that support such attacks are the lowest dregs of society. That's it...
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Posted: 12/21/2014 12:53:38 PM EDT
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I just got done reading the last thread.
Anyone shit all over this one yet? It's still early. And if they do, "The trial shall not be lengthy." Absolutely. I'm still stunned by it. I have a whole lot of fraternity brothers on the NYPD and they are devastated. |
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