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Link Posted: 2/28/2014 5:17:24 PM EDT
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Its 4:15 am

In two hours and 15 minutes it will lighten up.   Then we will see what showed up over night.  I'd really love to see them mine the held airfields with special munitions, if they have them.
Link Posted: 2/28/2014 5:18:29 PM EDT
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Don't presume to think one poster speaks for the currently 8,000 people on ARFCOM.

I'm not whining at all about NSA's perceived reduced capabilities.   It's the cost of pulling tyrannical BS on your own people.
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Where are the comm intercepts.  This is the shit those expensive 3 letter agencies are supposed to do.  Yes, I expect it is all encrypted, so?  DO your fucking real job NSA, CIA, et al.


lol

GD fights for months to cripple all US intel capabilities, assuming any capability that might be used on Americans, must be for use on Americans.  Now we get the whining.

You don't think Snowden gave the Russians more than enough for them to figure out how to counter our capabilities?  You think this stuff can be rebuilt by magic?

Another win for Russia, with the legions of useful idiots cheering them on.


Don't presume to think one poster speaks for the currently 8,000 people on ARFCOM.

I'm not whining at all about NSA's perceived reduced capabilities.   It's the cost of pulling tyrannical BS on your own people.



Link Posted: 2/28/2014 5:19:41 PM EDT
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Are they not capable of training locals?  They've been there for decades.  


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You'll assume snowden gave the Russians everything he knew, but want to make double sure about who's invading Ukraine?  LoL.  Oh well, that's my last snowden post. Not gonna derail the thread.
Link Posted: 2/28/2014 5:23:22 PM EDT
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RUSSIAN MI-24 COMBAT HELICOPTERS OVER BELBEK, NORTH OF SEVASTOPOL





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Link Posted: 2/28/2014 5:26:35 PM EDT
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                         RUSSIAN MI-24 COMBAT HELICOPTERS OVER BELBEK, NORTH OF SEVASTOPOL

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Something about the gnat-like view of multiple helicopters on a run make shit look ominous as hell.  Or awesome as hell, depending on who you're siding with.
Link Posted: 2/28/2014 5:34:16 PM EDT
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Russian soldier outside the airport in Simferopol

Link Posted: 2/28/2014 5:35:43 PM EDT
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Something about the gnat-like view of multiple helicopters on a run make shit look ominous as hell.  Or awesome as hell, depending on who you're siding with.
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                         RUSSIAN MI-24 COMBAT HELICOPTERS OVER BELBEK, NORTH OF SEVASTOPOL

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Something about the gnat-like view of multiple helicopters on a run make shit look ominous as hell.  Or awesome as hell, depending on who you're siding with.




Link Posted: 2/28/2014 5:38:22 PM EDT
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How can they tell them from Ukrainian Mi-24s at that range?
Link Posted: 2/28/2014 5:38:53 PM EDT
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A lot of these soldiers' gear looks brand spanking new, even the weapons
Link Posted: 2/28/2014 5:39:27 PM EDT
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His magazine and grenade pouches look empty
Link Posted: 2/28/2014 5:43:08 PM EDT
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#Russian ultimatum:#Ukrainian troops in #Crimea must leave bases by 2am local time (4:38 now) - HromadskeTV |PR News
Link Posted: 2/28/2014 5:43:26 PM EDT
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And the mag pouches look empty
Link Posted: 2/28/2014 5:43:41 PM EDT
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If the Ukranian nationalists are smart they'd transfer Crimea back to Russia in exchange for the Russians assuming Ukranian sovereign debt.

Presto, no more pesky ethnic Russians.
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This is what will happen: Ukraine is BROKE, Russia is the only country offering to lend them billions, Russia will be in control again very soon.


If the Ukranian nationalists are smart they'd transfer Crimea back to Russia in exchange for the Russians assuming Ukranian sovereign debt.

Presto, no more pesky ethnic Russians.


I didn't think of the debt bit, but getting rid of the Russians is a no brainer.
Link Posted: 2/28/2014 5:47:49 PM EDT
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A lot of these soldiers' gear looks brand spanking new, even the weapons




And the mag pouches look empty

Indeed. But I don't doubt for a second a supply is very close by. Its non-threatening and low-intensity... for now

 
Link Posted: 2/28/2014 5:48:31 PM EDT
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Where is FO rooster?

You know once he shows, it's on.
Link Posted: 2/28/2014 5:50:34 PM EDT
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Wonder if that is an issued knife. Looks fancy for issue stuff.
Link Posted: 2/28/2014 5:51:42 PM EDT
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Could some of the people we are seeing be part of the old government? Elements of the Ukrainian security services close to the president in exile?
Link Posted: 2/28/2014 5:51:44 PM EDT
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You're reaching.  No one has a problem with such capabilities being used against our enemies.  The NSA was using it against us however.
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Yep, I hope all the Snowden cheerleaders are happy.


You're reaching.  No one has a problem with such capabilities being used against our enemies.  The NSA was using it against us however.



Not even Snowden made such claims.  He merely said it was scary how they could be used.

The rest was derp piled on herp by people reading into things what they wanted to read into things.
Link Posted: 2/28/2014 5:55:06 PM EDT
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His magazine and grenade pouches look empty
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Russian soldier outside the airport in Simferopol

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His magazine and grenade pouches look empty


Did you see the security cam footage of them taking over that govt building?  There's plenty of ammo.  They're not being issued it on the streets for a reason.  This looks more for media consumption/message sending than occupation and hasty defensive measures.  We'll see tomorrow how much ammo they have.
Link Posted: 2/28/2014 6:19:26 PM EDT
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Did you see the security cam footage of them taking over that govt building?  There's plenty of ammo.  They're not being issued it on the streets for a reason.  This looks more for media consumption/message sending than occupation and hasty defensive measures.  We'll see tomorrow how much ammo they have.
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Russian soldier outside the airport in Simferopol

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His magazine and grenade pouches look empty


Did you see the security cam footage of them taking over that govt building?  There's plenty of ammo.  They're not being issued it on the streets for a reason.  This looks more for media consumption/message sending than occupation and hasty defensive measures.  We'll see tomorrow how much ammo they have.


Yup at 15:38 on the full security cam video, they carry out an AGS-17 and ammo. They came to party
Link Posted: 2/28/2014 8:04:06 PM EDT
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