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Link Posted: 10/9/2015 5:18:41 PM EDT
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Not going to buy a subscription only piece of software. And not going to buy her a $2,000 laptop to run Final Cut.

I'm a Protools user. But Avid is pissing me off lately. Just downloaded the free version of HitFilm 3 to start checking it out. It kind of bogs down on my Protools machine.  
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Personally I much prefer Premiere Pro to FCP.

Not going to buy a subscription only piece of software. And not going to buy her a $2,000 laptop to run Final Cut.

I'm a Protools user. But Avid is pissing me off lately. Just downloaded the free version of HitFilm 3 to start checking it out. It kind of bogs down on my Protools machine.  

Final Cut Pro runs well on a Mac Mini. It's only $1,000.

Link Posted: 10/9/2015 5:24:36 PM EDT
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I’d encourage her, and keep a close watch, if she was my daughter.  Nothing bad will happen if you/wife are involved.  It could be great for her.
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You're deluding yourself.

His daughter WILL be contacted by scum.  He will not be able to 100% monitor her activity.
Link Posted: 10/9/2015 5:31:29 PM EDT
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Found out tonight that my (almost 11 year old) daughter has a YouTube channel and has been posting videos online for about a month now.

She has been making video with her cell phone camera for several months now and she's been asking me if she can post them on YouTube. Apparently she figured out how to do it herself.

They are mostly short 5 to 10 minute long skits using her My Little Ponies or Littlest Pet Shop toys, or reviews of the new toys that she has bought, and a couple of cat videos. A few of them are pretty creative, she even used her mom and grandma's phones to shoot B and C-roll footage to use as a news broadcast in the main video.  

I know that she has been interested in making short movies for a while and has been asking me to get her a video editing program. She needs a new laptop to run it though. I guess I'll have to get on that.

Not sure how I feel about this whole uploading stuff to YouTube without my permission though.  

And no, I'm not posting any links to her channel for you pervs.  
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The whole reviewing and posting on youtube thing has a huge following

My 4 year old grandaughter loves to watch all the reviews

Sounds like your daughter is doing OK. Just monitor her content and maybe advise if it doesn't meet your approval
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Link Posted: 10/9/2015 5:43:57 PM EDT
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well there you go. I need to make youtube videos of all my guns, old WoW videos, make new multiboxing videos. reap the $
Link Posted: 10/9/2015 5:51:05 PM EDT
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I think the piercings come next, then the tattoos.
Link Posted: 10/9/2015 5:51:44 PM EDT
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If you didn't specifically tell her not to, she really didn't do anything wrong. As far as she would have known, the only think keeping her off youtube was not knowing how to upload.



It's high time for a talk about persec, though. And it's time to start monitoring all her communications. Assume that some adult is going to target her, and just be there over her shoulder when he does. Point him out to her so she knows what she's dealing with and how to ferret them out. Warn her about other girls too. Teach her to lie and to break off communication abruptly. All her life she's been told to be honest and considerate of others feelings, now you need to undo all that so she can handle herself in this context.
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Excellent advice.




The internet is not the real world and behavior needs to change accordingly.




The adage about everyone on the internet being a dirty old man? It's TRUE.
Link Posted: 10/9/2015 5:53:04 PM EDT
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How much traffic to you generate just to make that few  hundred bucks?

I only ask because I am in a trade that would probably allow me to do instructional videos with regularity.

Aside from the advertising aspect of it for the business, I think people would be generally interested in a lot of it, especially for stuff like basic repairs.
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As a (not very popular) youtuber myself I support this. And you should too.

She can make some serious cash.

My channel isn't very popular at all and it generates a couple hundred bucks a year just being there.


How much traffic to you generate just to make that few  hundred bucks?

I only ask because I am in a trade that would probably allow me to do instructional videos with regularity.

Aside from the advertising aspect of it for the business, I think people would be generally interested in a lot of it, especially for stuff like basic repairs.


I posted this once in the thread already. I've got 124 subscribers and 580 something thousand views.

Not a lot by anyone's standards. But the residual views (most of them seem to come from my videos showing up in other videos as related) still get me some pretty good traffic. Some of my videos have 5 or 10 views. Some have over 60,000. You never know what the hell you're gonna get on there.
Link Posted: 10/9/2015 6:20:49 PM EDT
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So nw I'm starting to think about starting my own YouTube channel.

What kind of videos get the most traffic (i.e. make the most money)?  
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So nw I'm starting to think about starting my own YouTube channel.

What kind of videos get the most traffic (i.e. make the most money)?  
Link Posted: 10/9/2015 6:34:37 PM EDT
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So nw I'm starting to think about starting my own YouTube channel.

What kind of videos get the most traffic (i.e. make the most money)?  
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You said that already

Although, that seems to be a common occurrence in youtube videos. keep repeating the same thing
Link Posted: 10/9/2015 6:45:23 PM EDT
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In one video she used her grandmother's cell phone as the video insert/weather map for a news cast by her ponies. Then recorded the news cast on her mother's phone, and played it back while she recorded the main video with her own phone, as if the one on her mother's phone was a big screen TV being watched by other ponies.  So there were, in fact 3 sets of video being used at the same time.  
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That's pretty resourceful.
Link Posted: 10/9/2015 6:50:12 PM EDT
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This, become involved.  Never stifle a child's creative side.  Be VERY involved in an encouraging way.  



My son is a total geek, Whovian type.  He wants to teach himself some martial arts, American Ninja warrior stuff and the likes.  Not my thing at all (being 50, yet still damn fit ANW would put in in the doctor's office, my joints would kill me).  My point, I support his geek side and encourage him making stuff, drawing and writing even though they aren't my thing.  He has no interest in hunting or shooting and I don't force it.



Get a used iMac and use iMovie which is free or if she has an iPhone use iMovie for iOS.  I have made a few movies using my GoPro, iPhone and iMacs and the iMovie app is pretty intuitive.

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If you didn't specifically tell her not to, she really didn't do anything wrong. As far as she would have known, the only think keeping her off youtube was not knowing how to upload.



It's high time for a talk about persec, though. And it's time to start monitoring all her communications. Assume that some adult is going to target her, and just be there over her shoulder when he does. Point him out to her so she knows what she's dealing with and how to ferret them out. Warn her about other girls too. Teach her to lie and to break off communication abruptly. All her life she's been told to be honest and considerate of others feelings, now you need to undo all that so she can handle herself in this context.


This, become involved.  Never stifle a child's creative side.  Be VERY involved in an encouraging way.  



My son is a total geek, Whovian type.  He wants to teach himself some martial arts, American Ninja warrior stuff and the likes.  Not my thing at all (being 50, yet still damn fit ANW would put in in the doctor's office, my joints would kill me).  My point, I support his geek side and encourage him making stuff, drawing and writing even though they aren't my thing.  He has no interest in hunting or shooting and I don't force it.



Get a used iMac and use iMovie which is free or if she has an iPhone use iMovie for iOS.  I have made a few movies using my GoPro, iPhone and iMacs and the iMovie app is pretty intuitive.





 
My 16yo daughter is on an 11 month youth exchange program in Thailand right now. Some people have asked "How could you let her go so far away and for so long?"




Easy.




When faced with a choice between encouraging my kid and holding her back, there is no other choice.




Encourage your daughter. Yes, there are concerns and they will need to be addressed. Yes, eventually she'll end up with hurtful or creepy comments. Teach her how to remove the offending comments, block the creepy commenters, or simply block comments altogether - and that the people making these comments don't know her or have any idea what they're talking about.




Be her biggest fan. You won't be sorry.
Link Posted: 10/9/2015 8:58:50 PM EDT
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If you didn't specifically tell her not to, she really didn't do anything wrong. As far as she would have known, the only think keeping her off youtube was not knowing how to upload.

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Children under 13 are not allowed to have their own internet accounts without parents permission.

So at teh very least, she's violated Youtubes's TOS, and probably federal statues as well.
Link Posted: 10/9/2015 9:16:35 PM EDT
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Standard anti-phishing content is directly relevant if you can get her to think about it.

One of the youngest girls in my office (very pretty) got an offer of modelling work for a company that makes ankle bracelets. Really excited.

So I had her show me the emails. Yahoo email address for the company director. Not on linkedin, business name not registered anywhere, no domain name, no website.

The real clincher? He offered to pay her travel expenses or carry out "online photo shoots".

So - it's almost certainly just some perv that likes ankles and saw her facebook pics (on her public profile).

She had been through anti-phishing training a few weeks before this...
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If you didn't specifically tell her not to, she really didn't do anything wrong. As far as she would have known, the only think keeping her off youtube was not knowing how to upload.

It's high time for a talk about persec, though. And it's time to start monitoring all her communications. Assume that some adult is going to target her, and just be there over her shoulder when he does. Point him out to her so she knows what she's dealing with and how to ferret them out. Warn her about other girls too. Teach her to lie and to break off communication abruptly. All her life she's been told to be honest and considerate of others feelings, now you need to undo all that so she can handle herself in this context.

Standard anti-phishing content is directly relevant if you can get her to think about it.

One of the youngest girls in my office (very pretty) got an offer of modelling work for a company that makes ankle bracelets. Really excited.

So I had her show me the emails. Yahoo email address for the company director. Not on linkedin, business name not registered anywhere, no domain name, no website.

The real clincher? He offered to pay her travel expenses or carry out "online photo shoots".

So - it's almost certainly just some perv that likes ankles and saw her facebook pics (on her public profile).

She had been through anti-phishing training a few weeks before this...





Link Posted: 10/9/2015 9:22:21 PM EDT
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I understand you want to foster her creative side and all, but there is the risk of her becoming the topic of pedo chat board.  You need to really monitor this stuff carefully.
Link Posted: 10/9/2015 9:34:54 PM EDT
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I know. I didn't buy my own Nintendo until I was 12 (with money from a paper route). Now she has a cell phone and laptop, is saving up money to buy her own video camera and wants a non-linear editing program. When we got her cell phone phone wee were worried about her talking and texting all the time. She spends most of her time using the video camera function.

She uses her desk as a set for her video, and has improvised a mount for her cell phone, uses her mother's cell phone to play soundtrack music and make B-roll footage, and even uses her desk lamp as a lighting rig.  

The next few years are going to be expensive for me.  
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What a world. At 11 I was playing minibike tag (basically demo derby on 50cc bikes) and lighting shit on fire.

Damn I feel old.



I know. I didn't buy my own Nintendo until I was 12 (with money from a paper route). Now she has a cell phone and laptop, is saving up money to buy her own video camera and wants a non-linear editing program. When we got her cell phone phone wee were worried about her talking and texting all the time. She spends most of her time using the video camera function.

She uses her desk as a set for her video, and has improvised a mount for her cell phone, uses her mother's cell phone to play soundtrack music and make B-roll footage, and even uses her desk lamp as a lighting rig.  

The next few years are going to be expensive for me.  

Dang, that sounds pretty cool! You may have a future director on your hands!
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Not sure how I feel about this whole uploading stuff to YouTube without my permission though. ....
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No offense but if you are not sure how to feel about your child being disobedient, you already lost the battle of wills. Good luck.
Link Posted: 10/9/2015 9:53:38 PM EDT
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You only have to worry if she adopts a fake Russian accent and starts blowing stuff up in your backyard.


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If you didn't specifically tell her not to, she really didn't do anything wrong. As far as she would have known, the only think keeping her off youtube was not knowing how to upload.

It's high time for a talk about persec, though. And it's time to start monitoring all her communications. Assume that some adult is going to target her, and just be there over her shoulder when he does. Point him out to her so she knows what she's dealing with and how to ferret them out. Warn her about other girls too. Teach her to lie and to break off communication abruptly. All her life she's been told to be honest and considerate of others feelings, now you need to undo all that so she can handle herself in this context.
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Mostly this.

Sounds like a strong interest better managed rather than forbidden.
Link Posted: 10/9/2015 10:28:47 PM EDT
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Found out tonight that my (almost 11 year old) daughter has a YouTube channel and has been posting videos online for about a month now.

She has been making video with her cell phone camera for several months now and she's been asking me if she can post them on YouTube. Apparently she figured out how to do it herself.

They are mostly short 5 to 10 minute long skits using her My Little Ponies or Littlest Pet Shop toys, or reviews of the new toys that she has bought, and a couple of cat videos. A few of them are pretty creative, she even used her mom and grandma's phones to shoot B and C-roll footage to use as a news broadcast in the main video.  

I know that she has been interested in making short movies for a while and has been asking me to get her a video editing program. She needs a new laptop to run it though. I guess I'll have to get on that.

Not sure how I feel about this whole uploading stuff to YouTube without my permission though.  

And no, I'm not posting any links to her channel for you pervs.  
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Does she use Windows? If so, check out Sony Movie Studio:

http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/moviestudiope

Easy to learn and does not require such a fast computer. I preferred it over Adobe's offering many years back. Nice for basic videos... might want to buy the options with fancy plug ins. Check Amazon.
Link Posted: 10/9/2015 11:13:30 PM EDT
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In before your daughter becomes the lead breadwinner.
That ex-pornstar makes millions reviewing kids toys and she is never on camera aside from her hands.
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The toy lover?  Toy wizard?  Toy Genie?  Some shit like that?

So, my 2.5 yo watches mickey cartoons on youtube.  One finished, and the next one up was some chick reviewing Mickey Pez dispensers.  Annoying as hell.  Amazingly annoying.  With a porn star type voice.

My wife even said she thought this chick had to be a porn star.  Was she right?
Link Posted: 10/9/2015 11:32:28 PM EDT
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I know there is some younger kid that his dad set him up a youtube channel and all he does is review different kids toys.

That youtube channel makes more than both his parents combined from what they were saying.

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/19/evantube-viral-youtube-videos_n_5850580.html

Here it is... he makes $1.3mil / year reviewing kids toys at 8 years old.
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The toy lover?  Toy wizard?  Toy Genie?  Some shit like that?



So, my 2.5 yo watches mickey cartoons on youtube.  One finished, and the next one up was some chick reviewing Mickey Pez dispensers.  Annoying as hell.  Amazingly annoying.  With a porn star type voice.



My wife even said she thought this chick had to be a porn star.  Was she right?
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In before your daughter becomes the lead breadwinner.

That ex-pornstar makes millions reviewing kids toys and she is never on camera aside from her hands.






The toy lover?  Toy wizard?  Toy Genie?  Some shit like that?



So, my 2.5 yo watches mickey cartoons on youtube.  One finished, and the next one up was some chick reviewing Mickey Pez dispensers.  Annoying as hell.  Amazingly annoying.  With a porn star type voice.



My wife even said she thought this chick had to be a porn star.  Was she right?
no idea.  But you can turn off autoplay of next video.  Load up a video... (it's not in the options where it should be...) and under the video at the top of the "Up Next" list is a toggle to turn off autoplay.





Also for the OP you can turn off the comments section.  You might have to do it for each individual video... I don't know.  



 
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I would not have a clue how to create my own You-Tube channel and post my own videos to it.

Not that I really care ... just sayin'
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I know there is some younger kid that his dad set him up a youtube channel and all he does is review different kids toys.

That youtube channel makes more than both his parents combined from what they were saying.

ETA:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/19/evantube-viral-youtube-videos_n_5850580.html

Here it is... he makes $1.3mil / year reviewing kids toys at 8 years old.
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I keep reading stories like this. Are these numbers real? Is that actual cash in a bank account?

I'm sure that these kinds of figures are rhe exception rather than the norm. But there seem to be an awedul lot of people claiming pretty sizable earnings through YouTube. What are the tax implications of a minor earning money from YouTube videos?
Link Posted: 10/10/2015 12:45:27 AM EDT
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You're deluding yourself.

His daughter WILL be contacted by scum.  He will not be able to 100% monitor her activity.
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I’d encourage her, and keep a close watch, if she was my daughter.  Nothing bad will happen if you/wife are involved.  It could be great for her.

You're deluding yourself.

His daughter WILL be contacted by scum.  He will not be able to 100% monitor her activity.

Maybe I’m delusional.  Maybe others are over-protective wackos.  If you think you are going to control every aspect of kids’ lives you are wrong.  

I do agree crazies will try.  It’s your job to stop them.
Link Posted: 10/10/2015 2:57:25 AM EDT
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Children under 13 are not allowed to have their own internet accounts without parents permission.

So at teh very least, she's violated Youtubes's TOS, and probably federal statues as well.
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If you didn't specifically tell her not to, she really didn't do anything wrong. As far as she would have known, the only think keeping her off youtube was not knowing how to upload.



Children under 13 are not allowed to have their own internet accounts without parents permission.

So at teh very least, she's violated Youtubes's TOS, and probably federal statues as well.


OMG, I didn't realize that.

Can I change my reply to "she should be executed"?

This kind of scofflaw behavior is a precursor to things like jay walking and violating noise ordinances. OP needs to get on this before society is harmed by this out of control hellion.
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If you didn't specifically tell her not to, she really didn't do anything wrong. As far as she would have known, the only think keeping her off youtube was not knowing how to upload.

It's high time for a talk about persec, though. And it's time to start monitoring all her communications. Assume that some adult is going to target her, and just be there over her shoulder when he does. Point him out to her so she knows what she's dealing with and how to ferret them out. Warn her about other girls too. Teach her to lie and to break off communication abruptly. All her life she's been told to be honest and considerate of others feelings, now you need to undo all that so she can handle herself in this context.

Standard anti-phishing content is directly relevant if you can get her to think about it.

One of the youngest girls in my office (very pretty) got an offer of modelling work for a company that makes ankle bracelets. Really excited.

So I had her show me the emails. Yahoo email address for the company director. Not on linkedin, business name not registered anywhere, no domain name, no website.

The real clincher? He offered to pay her travel expenses or carry out "online photo shoots".

So - it's almost certainly just some perv that likes ankles and saw her facebook pics (on her public profile).

She had been through anti-phishing training a few weeks before this...







To be fair, that's not phishing - that's just old fashioned fishing.
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To be fair, that's not phishing - that's just old fashioned fishing.
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Standard anti-phishing content is directly relevant if you can get her to think about it.

One of the youngest girls in my office (very pretty) got an offer of modelling work for a company that makes ankle bracelets. Really excited.

So I had her show me the emails. Yahoo email address for the company director. Not on linkedin, business name not registered anywhere, no domain name, no website.

The real clincher? He offered to pay her travel expenses or carry out "online photo shoots".

So - it's almost certainly just some perv that likes ankles and saw her facebook pics (on her public profile).

She had been through anti-phishing training a few weeks before this...







To be fair, that's not phishing - that's just old fashioned fishing.


To be fair, there would probably have been a lot of bating if she had go though with it.
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OMG, I didn't realize that.

Can I change my reply to "she should be executed"?

This kind of scofflaw behavior is a precursor to things like jay walking and violating noise ordinances. OP needs to get on this before society is harmed by this out of control hellion.
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If you didn't specifically tell her not to, she really didn't do anything wrong. As far as she would have known, the only think keeping her off youtube was not knowing how to upload.



Children under 13 are not allowed to have their own internet accounts without parents permission.

So at teh very least, she's violated Youtubes's TOS, and probably federal statues as well.


OMG, I didn't realize that.

Can I change my reply to "she should be executed"?

This kind of scofflaw behavior is a precursor to things like jay walking and violating noise ordinances. OP needs to get on this before society is harmed by this out of control hellion.


Link Posted: 10/10/2015 8:40:01 AM EDT
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The law requires that a person be at least 13 years of age before doing that.
Link Posted: 10/10/2015 8:51:41 AM EDT
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There's a lady and her husband that buys Disney toys and reviews them on YouTube.


They never have to work a real job ever again. Don't crush her creativity, just guide her.
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