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Link Posted: 2/9/2015 4:58:16 PM EDT
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Tag on uno.
Link Posted: 2/9/2015 5:04:52 PM EDT
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I honestly think this guy lost it. Who doubts he had mental issues?



One issue I see is that too many people think PTSD is unique to combat veterans, but they are actually in the minority.
Think of Private Pyle in FMJ, that guy didn't see combat but obviously was a prime example of someone going through a traumatic event. Maybe this guy was just a dirt bag hated by everyone around him. A grade-A loser.
In any case, it appears psychological issues may be the root cause of what he did, so I won't be surprised if he gets off lightly. The situation they were in, why they were there, and what they were doing, the entire precedent, involves the fact he was thought to have mental issues. The prosecution is going to have a very hard time. I hope more facts come out that incriminate his motivations.



 
Link Posted: 2/9/2015 5:06:56 PM EDT
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Fuck him

Rip Chris Kyle a true American hero
Link Posted: 2/9/2015 6:23:58 PM EDT
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Fail on secundo.
Link Posted: 2/9/2015 8:05:17 PM EDT
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Here are some pictures from court today.

Video at the link



Link Posted: 2/9/2015 8:29:11 PM EDT
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Has he been eating people?!
Link Posted: 2/10/2015 11:11:02 AM EDT
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Bump for update on Jury selection.  See OP

Link Posted: 2/10/2015 11:50:01 AM EDT
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Here are some pictures from court today.

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Has he been eating people?!


He's one of the most hated men in america... look at what happened to george zimmerman.
Link Posted: 2/10/2015 11:59:31 AM EDT
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Triple guilty! 2 for the murders and 1 for porn stache.
Link Posted: 2/10/2015 12:13:32 PM EDT
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He's one of the most hated men in america... look at what happened to george zimmerman.
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Here are some pictures from court today.

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Has he been eating people?!


He's one of the most hated men in america... look at what happened to george zimmerman.


And? If I was either one of them, I'd be trying to bulk up as best I could!
Link Posted: 2/10/2015 1:12:48 PM EDT
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If he didn't have PTSD and murdered them for the truck, he should be dead.
If he had PTSD so severely that he murdered them, he should be dead.
Link Posted: 2/10/2015 1:25:57 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/10/2015 1:29:09 PM EDT
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bump for update
Link Posted: 2/10/2015 1:33:23 PM EDT
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I'm surprised he hasn't plead out.
Link Posted: 2/10/2015 1:59:12 PM EDT
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This worries me.

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Jury seated.  10 women. 2 men.


This worries me.




How does it work in TX,does the death penalty have to be unanimous or do they just decide guilt and a judge sentences?


 As an aside,I saw a thing about the Boston bomber jury pool...apparently one of the women thought he was too young and "just made a big mistake". Speechless but not surprised.
Link Posted: 2/10/2015 2:00:02 PM EDT
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How does it work in TX,does the death penalty have to be unanimous or do they just decide guilt and a judge sentences?





 As an aside,I saw a thing about the Boston bomber jury pool...apparently one of the women thought he was too young and "just made a big mistake". Speechless but not surprised.

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Jury seated.  10 women. 2 men.





This worries me.









How does it work in TX,does the death penalty have to be unanimous or do they just decide guilt and a judge sentences?





 As an aside,I saw a thing about the Boston bomber jury pool...apparently one of the women thought he was too young and "just made a big mistake". Speechless but not surprised.





 
State is not going for the death penalty
Link Posted: 2/10/2015 2:07:45 PM EDT
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So this asshole gets to be the poster boy for vets with PTSD for decades to come,regardless of the trial's outcome...
Link Posted: 2/10/2015 3:04:31 PM EDT
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Headed down in the morning. I'm sure it will be a zoo in tiny Stephenville.
Link Posted: 2/10/2015 3:18:21 PM EDT
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tag
Link Posted: 2/10/2015 8:29:33 PM EDT
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3:55 PM - 10 Feb 2015
Prosecutors want to show jurors Eddie Routh's "high life" tattoo to emphasize drug use.

3:58 PM - 10 Feb 2015
Prosecutors also hope to introduce a list of 37 extraneous offenses. Drugs, DWI, killing small animals, flooding cell
Link Posted: 2/10/2015 8:38:08 PM EDT
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Prosecutors want to show jurors Eddie Routh's "high life" tattoo to emphasize drug use.

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Prosecutors also hope to introduce a list of 37 extraneous offenses. Drugs, DWI, killing small animals, flooding cell
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PTSD, not being a shit bag, made him do all those things,
Link Posted: 2/11/2015 9:39:37 AM EDT
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Looks like it's busy down there

Link Posted: 2/11/2015 10:11:58 AM EDT
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1 hour before trial starts, about 100 people in line to get in the courthouse. Taya just arrived.
Link Posted: 2/11/2015 10:14:41 AM EDT
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1 hour before trial starts, about 100 people in line to get in the courthouse. Taya just arrived.
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Think you'll make it in?


Here's a pic of Chad's parents...

Link Posted: 2/11/2015 10:15:16 AM EDT
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Taya arriving...

Link Posted: 2/11/2015 10:16:06 AM EDT
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in fo sho!!!!!!
Link Posted: 2/11/2015 10:16:31 AM EDT
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Jury seated.  10 women. 2 men.


This worries me.




That is a heck of a split.
Link Posted: 2/11/2015 10:19:52 AM EDT
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What's worse, he'll be the poster boy for banning guns from vets with PTSD for decades to come.
Link Posted: 2/11/2015 10:21:13 AM EDT
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In.  Wonder who put the guy up to it.  
Link Posted: 2/11/2015 10:29:40 AM EDT
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The man in front of me is a pastor, he says he's been visiting Routh for 18 months, and baptized him in April.
Link Posted: 2/11/2015 10:30:08 AM EDT
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Can anyone explain to me the logic in taking someone target shooting who is suffering from PTSD?  I realize that there are different levels of PTSD and I'm not saying that someone with PTSD should be kept away from firearms. I'm just trying to understand what the intended goal of the trip to the range was?
Link Posted: 2/11/2015 10:36:07 AM EDT
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Can anyone explain to me the logic in taking someone target shooting who is suffering from PTSD?  I realize that there are different levels of PTSD and I'm not saying that someone with PTSD should be kept away from firearms. I'm just trying to understand what the intended goal of the trip to the range was?
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Desensitization.  If something like the sound of gunshots is a trigger for PTSD, taking them out to the range and having them shoot over and over again and demonstrate to them that there is no harm in it, they will react less or not at all to that stimulus over time. One way to help people with PTSD from car accidents, for example, is to take them driving--first in a controlled environment and then out on the highway.
Link Posted: 2/11/2015 10:38:03 AM EDT
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Here's a VERY good article on Eddie Ray Routh with some pictures I've never seen of him during his tour.  

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2947838/Marine-killed-American-Sniper-Chris-Kyle-lash-like-wild-animal-beat-comrade-death-long-turned-gun-SEAL-hero-veterans-group-claims-double-murder-trial.html

While posted to Camp Fallujah in August 2007, Routh became known for violent outbursts against fellow servicemen he felt were laughing at him
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Link Posted: 2/11/2015 10:38:58 AM EDT
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In for updates...
Link Posted: 2/11/2015 10:39:18 AM EDT
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That's good to hear.  


Link Posted: 2/11/2015 10:40:03 AM EDT
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Desensitization.  If something like the sound of gunshots is a trigger for PTSD, taking them out to the range and having them shoot over and over again and demonstrate to them that there is no harm in it, they will react less or not at all to that stimulus over time. One way to help people with PTSD from car accidents, for example, is to take them driving--first in a controlled environment and then out on the highway.
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Can anyone explain to me the logic in taking someone target shooting who is suffering from PTSD?  I realize that there are different levels of PTSD and I'm not saying that someone with PTSD should be kept away from firearms. I'm just trying to understand what the intended goal of the trip to the range was?


Desensitization.  If something like the sound of gunshots is a trigger for PTSD, taking them out to the range and having them shoot over and over again and demonstrate to them that there is no harm in it, they will react less or not at all to that stimulus over time. One way to help people with PTSD from car accidents, for example, is to take them driving--first in a controlled environment and then out on the highway.


Thanks you for your insight.
Link Posted: 2/11/2015 10:40:08 AM EDT
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Eddie's family arrives...

Link Posted: 2/11/2015 10:42:12 AM EDT
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I also want to show respect for Kyle and Chad.  Let's not forget who this savage killed and whose lives he ruined...





Link Posted: 2/11/2015 10:43:20 AM EDT
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Can anyone explain to me the logic in taking someone target shooting who is suffering from PTSD?  I realize that there are different levels of PTSD and I'm not saying that someone with PTSD should be kept away from firearms. I'm just trying to understand what the intended goal of the trip to the range was?
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It's a familiar activity to vets and hanging out with other guys that were there and understand can be a stress relief. People with a lot to get off their chest can only get better by doing so.
Link Posted: 2/11/2015 11:08:33 AM EDT
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Did you make it into the actual courtroom?  Looks tiny...

Link Posted: 2/11/2015 11:10:27 AM EDT
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Court room was full at 850. No more civilians. All media being put in an auxiliary room. I'll try at lunch break.
Link Posted: 2/11/2015 11:12:34 AM EDT
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Dang.  Well at least you tried.

Link Posted: 2/11/2015 11:14:34 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/11/2015 11:17:30 AM EDT
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In.
Link Posted: 2/11/2015 11:31:06 AM EDT
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prayers for the families. This is gonna be a tough couple of months.
Link Posted: 2/11/2015 11:40:17 AM EDT
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Chad Littlefield shot 4 times in back.  Also In face and top of head with 9mm handgun.

Kyle shot with a .45 4 times in the back, 1 in the side, and 1 in the head
Link Posted: 2/11/2015 11:45:53 AM EDT
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Eddie left the shooting range with the 9mm (that was issued to SEALs) and the .45.  He first went to his uncle's to show him the new guns he got.  Then went to his sister's and showed her his new truck and new guns.  Then admitted to her that he murdered 2 men.

Link Posted: 2/11/2015 11:52:55 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/11/2015 11:56:46 AM EDT
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Has he been eating people?!


Probably on antipsychotics, they can make you gain weight
Link Posted: 2/11/2015 11:58:36 AM EDT
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Did Routh's lawyer just said he was very proud to be representing the piece of shit?





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