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Posted: 8/26/2014 7:32:51 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/26/2014 12:23:21 PM EDT
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he's dead Jim.
http://www.abc15.com/news/region-northern-az/other/mcso-9-year-old-accidently-shoots-kills-gun-instructor-with-uzi full auto uzi shooting apparently |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 12:25:14 PM EDT
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he's dead Jim. http://www.abc15.com/news/region-northern-az/other/mcso-9-year-old-accidently-shoots-kills-gun-instructor-with-uzi full auto uzi shooting apparently Oh damn.
Did they forget what happened a few years ago with an 8-year old and an uzi? |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 12:27:37 PM EDT
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true!
I sit in my commando / range instructor chair and say WTF!? "here, try this, it's a climber though...hold tight Mrs. 9year old. |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 12:32:40 PM EDT
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he's dead Jim. http://www.abc15.com/news/region-northern-az/other/mcso-9-year-old-accidently-shoots-kills-gun-instructor-with-uzi full auto uzi shooting apparently Dam , Dont have to read to know what happen
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Posted: 8/26/2014 12:36:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dam , Dont have to read to know what happenQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: he's dead Jim. http://www.abc15.com/news/region-northern-az/other/mcso-9-year-old-accidently-shoots-kills-gun-instructor-with-uzi full auto uzi shooting apparently Dam , Dont have to read to know what happencomplacency kills. |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 12:49:24 PM EDT
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Idiot paid for it with his life and damaged a little girl in the process.
A full size UZI is cake to shoot. Those micros are a bear even for an adult. What on Earth would make anyone think it was a good idea to hand a little kid something like that? Damn, that really pisses me off. |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 12:56:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Absolutely terrifying video of my 8yo girl shooting an actual firearm. http://vid1326.photobucket.com/albums/u660/ridgerunner9876/annieshooting_zpsbbddb56a.mp4 Even scarier video of her 12yo brother with an "EEK" evil black rifle. http://vid1326.photobucket.com/albums/u660/ridgerunner9876/jakeshootingedit2_zps892f18d4.mp4 |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 12:59:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Absolutely terrifying video of my 8yo girl shooting an actual firearm. http://vid1326.photobucket.com/albums/u660/ridgerunner9876/annieshooting_zpsbbddb56a.mp4 Even scarier video of her 12yo brother with an "EEK" evil black rifle. http://vid1326.photobucket.com/albums/u660/ridgerunner9876/jakeshootingedit2_zps892f18d4.mp4 Maximum girlstance made me laugh
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Posted: 8/26/2014 1:00:35 PM EDT
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Idiot paid for it with his life and damaged a little girl in the process.
A full size UZI is cake to shoot. Those micros are a bear even for an adult. What on Earth would make anyone think it was a good idea to hand a little kid something like that? Damn, that really pisses me off. Agreed. Guy paid for his idiocy with his life. |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 1:01:29 PM EDT
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Wasn't it a micro full auto that killed that boy a bit ago?  |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 1:05:52 PM EDT
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Who wants to bet there's video
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Posted: 8/26/2014 1:06:07 PM EDT
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he's dead Jim. http://www.abc15.com/news/region-northern-az/other/mcso-9-year-old-accidently-shoots-kills-gun-instructor-with-uzi full auto uzi shooting apparently Yup. Just as I figured. There's a full auto shop up in bumfuckegypt that is dolan springs. They try to get the vegas tourists coming down to the dam. And the "instructor" is from LHC. lol there aren't any instructors up there. I may know the person but the name ain't clicking any gears here. Face would help. To remember, though I suppose the same could be said for Vacca. 
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Posted: 8/26/2014 1:09:54 PM EDT
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Lol great vids. Maximum girlstance made me laugh Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Absolutely terrifying video of my 8yo girl shooting an actual firearm. http://vid1326.photobucket.com/albums/u660/ridgerunner9876/annieshooting_zpsbbddb56a.mp4 Even scarier video of her 12yo brother with an "EEK" evil black rifle. http://vid1326.photobucket.com/albums/u660/ridgerunner9876/jakeshootingedit2_zps892f18d4.mp4 Maximum girlstance made me laugh Yeah. I go for safe first. We work on position after that. Girls just have really narrow shoulders and even a gun as short as that little rifle are hard for them to hold properly. |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 1:15:15 PM EDT
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DOLAN SPRINGS
The garden spot of the world 
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Posted: 8/26/2014 1:15:33 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/26/2014 1:21:21 PM EDT
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Absolutely terrifying video of my 8yo girl shooting an actual firearm. http://vid1326.photobucket.com/albums/u660/ridgerunner9876/annieshooting_zpsbbddb56a.mp4 Even scarier video of her 12yo brother with an "EEK" evil black rifle. http://vid1326.photobucket.com/albums/u660/ridgerunner9876/jakeshootingedit2_zps892f18d4.mp4 Great vids man. 
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Posted: 8/26/2014 1:31:47 PM EDT
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Yeah, some times those videos of people shooting guns they can't handle turn out bad.
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Posted: 8/26/2014 1:40:50 PM EDT
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the victim was a former Army staff sergeant
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Posted: 8/26/2014 1:45:47 PM EDT
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Can someone please give me the cliff notes to the article? There was just way too many details about what happened to read them all. God you fuckers are needy. Go Google it. |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 1:46:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryAccording to the article the incident occured at a business called "Last Stop" in Dolan Springs, AZ. The business you linked to is called Bullets and Burgers and seems to have a Las Vegas address.....
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Posted: 8/26/2014 1:51:38 PM EDT
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According to the article the incident occured at a business called "Last Stop" in Dolan Springs, AZ. The business you linked to is called Bullets and Burgers and seems to have a Las Vegas address..... Quote HistoryQuoted:
The business you linked to is called Bullets and Burgers and seems to have a Las Vegas address..... Dolan Springs is not all that far from Las Vegas. It is pretty much the first settlement you come to after crossing the Hoover Dam. Not that far in terms of the Southwest US |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 1:53:43 PM EDT
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I can't even imagine turning a child that young loose with a machine gun.
Negligence pure and simple |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 1:53:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah. I go for safe first. We work on position after that. Girls just have really narrow shoulders and even a gun as short as that little rifle are hard for them to hold properly. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Absolutely terrifying video of my 8yo girl shooting an actual firearm. http://vid1326.photobucket.com/albums/u660/ridgerunner9876/annieshooting_zpsbbddb56a.mp4 Even scarier video of her 12yo brother with an "EEK" evil black rifle. http://vid1326.photobucket.com/albums/u660/ridgerunner9876/jakeshootingedit2_zps892f18d4.mp4 Maximum girlstance made me laugh Yeah. I go for safe first. We work on position after that. Girls just have really narrow shoulders and even a gun as short as that little rifle are hard for them to hold properly. Good job dude.
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Posted: 8/26/2014 1:54:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dolan Springs is not all that far from Las Vegas. It is pretty much the first settlement you come to after crossing the Hoover Dam. Not that far in terms of the Southwest US Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The business you linked to is called Bullets and Burgers and seems to have a Las Vegas address..... Dolan Springs is not all that far from Las Vegas. It is pretty much the first settlement you come to after crossing the Hoover Dam. Not that far in terms of the Southwest US Scratch that, the website for Bullets and Burgers does say they are located on the Last Stop property. My apologies to FreeBear
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Posted: 8/26/2014 2:00:53 PM EDT
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I feel sorry for the little girl.....the "instructor" not as much.
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Posted: 8/26/2014 2:04:10 PM EDT
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My kids have been shooting since they were younger than that... But I make them memorize, rehearse, and recite the safety rules on our way to the range, AND put them in practice on the line.
Former RO and NRA instructor here. And I stand within arms-reach of all new shooters, to prevent any movement or rotation while on the line. I've had enough guns pointed at me by idiots. 
ETA? Full-auto mini Uzi? And a nine-year-old? Jiminey Christmas....
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Posted: 8/26/2014 2:05:52 PM EDT
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They just reported it on a local A.M. radio station, said it was an UZI
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Posted: 8/26/2014 2:08:08 PM EDT
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Heaven forbid the instructor should start with just one cartridge.
Gotta say, if it's as presented, that was pretty stupid. |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 2:49:17 PM EDT
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Not an accident. Negligence. Instructor did not ensure that the girl understood the four rules before handling a loaded firearm. It was definitely negligence, and I don't think the girl was at fault at all and instead it was the instructor. You don't give a submachine gun to a 9 year-old girl without having your own hands on the weapon. It was likely a full magazine and the muzzle rose and then came in line with the instructor's head. |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 2:53:52 PM EDT
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My kids have been shooting since they were younger than that... But I make them memorize, rehearse, and recite the safety rules on our way to the range, AND put them in practice on the line. Former RO and NRA instructor here. And I stand within arms-reach of all new shooters, to prevent any movement or rotation while on the line. I've had enough guns pointed at me by idiots.
ETA? Full-auto mini Uzi? And a nine-year-old? Jiminey Christmas.... Was it a mini Uzi? Even worse since the rate of fire is >1500. It's a proverbial bullet hose. |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 2:55:22 PM EDT
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Damn . . . . poor kid . She'll be messed up for awhile because of this  |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 3:01:06 PM EDT
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Nine year old girl. Gun. Ammunition. What could go wrong? Commiefornia derptastic post, comrade. |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 3:01:57 PM EDT
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Story makes a lot more sense now that he gun has been identified.
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Posted: 8/26/2014 3:04:30 PM EDT
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Can someone please give me the cliff notes to the article? There was just way too many details about what happened to read them all. yeah
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Posted: 8/26/2014 3:24:02 PM EDT
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Idiot paid for it with his life and damaged a little girl in the process.
A full size UZI is cake to shoot. Those micros are a bear even for an adult. What on Earth would make anyone think it was a good idea to hand a little kid something like that? Damn, that really pisses me off. Because they're small, so people think they're not a problem, or they always shoot it with the stock and do not realize a little kid can't use the stock properly. There's no way I'd shoot a micro-Uzi without the stock firmly against my shoulder. Kharn |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 3:31:01 PM EDT
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the victim was a former Army staff sergeant Then he should've known better. 
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Posted: 8/26/2014 3:32:17 PM EDT
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It was definitely negligence, and I don't think the girl was at fault at all and instead it was the instructor. You don't give a submachine gun to a 9 year-old girl without having your own hands on the weapon. It was likely a full magazine and the muzzle rose and then came in line with the instructor's head. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Not an accident. Negligence. Instructor did not ensure that the girl understood the four rules before handling a loaded firearm. It was definitely negligence, and I don't think the girl was at fault at all and instead it was the instructor. You don't give a submachine gun to a 9 year-old girl without having your own hands on the weapon. It was likely a full magazine and the muzzle rose and then came in line with the instructor's head. Fixed |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 3:32:47 PM EDT
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I think we passed this place last November driving from LasVegas to the Grand Canyon. It looked like a neat place, I thought about stopping but we were tight on time.
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Posted: 8/26/2014 3:50:24 PM EDT
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I can't even imagine turning a child that young loose with a machine gun. Negligence pure and simple My daughter first shot an Uzi when she was 9. Of course, she had competent supervision and instruction beforehand and during. As for the story's poor girl. I hope she can get past it 
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Posted: 8/26/2014 3:52:45 PM EDT
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Whether its woman, or kids, or the occasional sissy boy! I will be hands on with any firearm I think is outside a persons abilities. Until the person demonstrates ability to maintain proper control.
Not that I'm blaming anyone! It really does sound like an accident! |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 3:55:00 PM EDT
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Whether its woman, or kids, or the occasional sissy boy! I will be hands on with any firearm I think is outside a persons abilities. Until the person demonstrates ability to maintain proper control. Not that I'm blaming anyone! It really does sound like an accident! Problem is there is very little to grab on a micro. Kharn |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 4:25:20 PM EDT
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Problem is there is very little to grab on a micro. Kharn Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Whether its woman, or kids, or the occasional sissy boy! I will be hands on with any firearm I think is outside a persons abilities. Until the person demonstrates ability to maintain proper control. Not that I'm blaming anyone! It really does sound like an accident! Problem is there is very little to grab on a micro. Kharn Want. To. Make. Joke.... |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 4:33:09 PM EDT
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Re-post from the AZ HTF-
Michelle Viscusi just linked up an edited version of the video from Fox10, you see exactly what happened leading up to it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfMzK7QwfrU&feature=youtu.be Have to say it is sad all around. Not blaming the kid, not her fault she was put in that situation, but it looks like she was barely holding onto the weapon with her left hand (after the first shot or two) her left hand was completely off the weapon and the buttstock (which appears to not have been tight against her shoulder) slid down under her armpit which allowed the muzzle to flip up and to the side. |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 4:47:41 PM EDT
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Ridiculous. I wonder how much prior shooting experience this girl had, was she even familiar with handling recoil? Sad for the girl and instructor but very stupid to hand a child a full auto Uzi.
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Posted: 8/26/2014 4:51:55 PM EDT
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Just before the video ends you can see the Uzi fly out of her hands, so sad.
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Posted: 8/26/2014 4:55:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Damn . . . . poor kid . She'll be messed up for awhile because of this I feel bad for the families of both as well. |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 4:55:50 PM EDT
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Just before the video ends you can see the Uzi fly out of her hands, so sad. Yeah very sad. |
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Posted: 8/26/2014 5:51:12 PM EDT
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Still trying to figure out the mentality that thinks its funny or cool to put a full auto in a kid's hands, or a .500 in the hands of a Columbian woman, of the local redneck snickering as he gives his girlfriend a .44 Mag.
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Posted: 8/26/2014 6:04:43 PM EDT
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Wasn't it a micro full auto that killed that boy a bit ago? No, it was a boy who killed himself with a micro uzi. important difference... |
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