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Posted: 10/13/2014 11:55:03 PM EDT
http://news.yahoo.com/bashar-al-assad-s-syrian-torture-chambers-205323124.html
Note: the Link contains a Gallery of Photos that are Graphic and NSFW It's pretty tame compared to what the Nazis did, but still... |
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Most of us will never understand the true nature of violence and the ruthlessness needed to practice it on another human. Pictures of this, the Holocaust, and other similar atrocities, show that there are plenty of men out there who do. When you come across such men, they can't be negotiated with, only eliminated.
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I want peace. I pray for peace and scream it form the roof tops. But it's a fools errand to think that peace can ever be brought to the middle east- not in our great-grand children's life time and not in their great grand children's either.
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He's a horrible cunt, all right.
Kind of funny...lots of people didn't think he had the stomach to be a dictator. |
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Sucks to be them.
Thank allah none of the pictures showed a tit. |
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Well then, we better think of the children an invade Syria RFN
Conveniently timed for maximum emotional response. |
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<Removed - T7> I'm not seeing the problem. View Quote Ditto. I'm sorry, but my level of sympathy for almost anyone in that region of the world has collapsed to zero since 9/11 and the aftermath. If they want to live under a Sultanate of a Khalif or whatever, have at it, but he prepared to face the consequences. Same goes for living under that hot mess they consider a <insert CoC violation here>. |
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So Assad uses violence and torture as a means to rule savages who understand nothing else.
For those upset at the images of violence the Assad regime uses to control its people I ask you how else can it be done? Muslims reject Western styles of governence yet the rebels plead with use to help and when we do they turn on us. For thousands of years Muslims have ruled in this fashion because they understand what we as westerners do not. That this is they only way to rule a people like this. You can't give freedom to a people who don't truly want it and respect it. Just look at Iraq, we gave them freedom and all the tools they needed to defend it and they through it away. They only way to give them freedom is if you willing to maintain a security force to defend it for them and they will hate you for it. Then when you give them what they want and you leave groups like ISIS come in and they beg for you to come back but at the expense of our solders lives and the money of the American tax payer. Westerners get angry at the violence and savagery they see because we wrap our heads around the fact that there is no other way to rule savages. |
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"The State Department has obtained 27,000 photographs showing the emaciated, bruised and burned bodies of Syrian torture victims "
i see 6..... |
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The person with the burns through to the bones is pretty gruesome.
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http://news.yahoo.com/bashar-al-assad-s-syrian-torture-chambers-205323124.html Note: the Link contains a Gallery of Photos that are Graphic and NSFW It's pretty tame compared to what the Nazis did, but still... View Quote Yep so what? Take a good look people. If we want to defeat these people we are going to have to get this fucking mean to do it! These dictators know this and that's why there is this common denominator to every one of their successful regimes. I'm not saying this is right because its not. But its what will have to happen unless we want our granddaughters wearing Burkas. |
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They're a necessity in that part of the world for stability.
Don't ask to see how your sausage is made, just enjoy it. |
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He doesn't allow Muslims to kill Christians or people of other religions. He has that going for him. I have resigned myself to the fact that the folks in that part of the world are just plain brutal and that is all they understand. If you are going to make a move on any regime in the Middle East, you better be on the winning side.
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Meh, seen the same shit during the propaganda run up to war in Iraq, Libya, Egypt.
Fact is the US CIA sent many folks to these exact places...still doing it in fact. "Civilized" countries make use of many of these facilities (they taught them everything they know) as not to break treaties on their on soil or get their own hands dirty - so they hand off international terror suspects to these hole in the wall places. There have been dozens of documented cases in the international courts attesting to this practice BTW. So Assad, Hussein, Mubarak, etc (name your asshole) used "enhanced interrogation" to quell or get info out of the likes of ISIS or whatever the latest name of the boogey man is (most of which our government have funded) more power to them. I simply don't give a shit. Democracy does not and will not ever work in that part of the world for a variety of reasons. In hindsight we should have left Saddam in power, saved a lot of lives, trillions of dollars and let him keep a lid on things. We should have learned by now Assad needs to stay right where he is. Sad but true. |
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<Removed - T7> I'm not seeing the problem. What about Jews? Gypsies? Armenians? Christians? Unfortunate, but not our problem. and the alternate is ISIS raping and murdering its way across the middle east. |
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This. /Thread One or two more edits and /thread would be right View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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<Removed - T7> I'm not seeing the problem. This. /Thread One or two more edits and /thread would be right yep. Sounds bad, but at this point in my life... I just don't care about them. |
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We made Iraq stable when we ran it, and we didn't torture thousands of people to death to do it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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They're a necessity in that part of the world for stability. Don't ask to see how your sausage is made, just enjoy it. We made Iraq stable when we ran it, and we didn't torture thousands of people to death to do it. When Saddam ran the place there weren't IEDs going off every damn day either. |
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I don't even know what the second post says, but I bet it's right.
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View Quote that's a fucked up thing to say. islam sucks b/c it is generally used to justify brutality for some end, really just to keep an evil ruling class in power as it is fundementally a political system. assad's regime is largely secular and doesn't bother w/ that religious pretense more like the nazis or communist. What is wrong is the terrorizing adn killing of innocent people whether it is doen is the name of allah or the revolution or whatever. |
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We made Iraq stable when we ran it, and we didn't torture thousands of people to death to do it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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They're a necessity in that part of the world for stability. Don't ask to see how your sausage is made, just enjoy it. We made Iraq stable when we ran it, and we didn't torture thousands of people to death to do it. IED's blowing up everyday was your idea of "stability"? I'd hate to see what you think chaos looks like. |
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What about Jews? Gypsies? Armenians? Christians? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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<Removed - T7> I'm not seeing the problem. What about Jews? Gypsies? Armenians? Christians? None of them have made killing those they disagree with a central pilar of their religion. |
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Just as likely to be Saudi or more likely Turkish propaganda photos.
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Assad has the blood of thousands of Americans on his hands. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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He doesn't allow Muslims to kill Christians or people of other religions. Assad has the blood of thousands of Americans on his hands. US "allies" like Saudi Arabia and Pakistan have even more. |
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Yup and there was a similarly horrible dictator in Iraq. . . . . turns out the world as a whole would have been better had he remained in place.
These are 3rd world shitholes stuck in the stone age, and these images are a product of that. |
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We made Iraq stable when we ran it, and we didn't torture thousands of people to death to do it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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They're a necessity in that part of the world for stability. Don't ask to see how your sausage is made, just enjoy it. We made Iraq stable when we ran it, and we didn't torture thousands of people to death to do it. No we just shot them. Battle of Fallujah, 600-900 civilian deaths by US. I'm not saying that's bad, its just battle. But to say we didn't harm anybody in bringing democracy to Iraq is BS. |
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I want peace. I pray for peace and scream it form the roof tops. But it's a fools errand to think that peace can ever be brought to the middle east- not in our great-grand children's life time and not in their great grand children's either. View Quote Their "bucket list" is to kill for |
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Well then, we better think of the children an invade Syria RFN Conveniently timed for maximum emotional response. View Quote Pretty much. How are we to know Assad did this stuff? Our very own government could have hired thugs to spread this propaganda. Those of you who think that our government wouldn't do such a thing need to wake up. |
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Probably more BS like the chemical weapons attack propaganda.
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He doesn't allow Muslims to kill Christians or people of other religions. He has that going for him. I have resigned myself to the fact that the folks in that part of the world are just plain brutal and that is all they understand. If you are going to make a move on any regime in the Middle East, you better be on the winning side. View Quote brutality is when Israel defends itself..... |
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