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Posted: 8/2/2014 4:33:47 AM EDT
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Typically, the LGBT community supports the idea that "gayness" is a matter of nature, one is born that way. This causes hissy fits here in Guys' Drama. Now comes a member of the LGBT community who posits that "gayness" is a matter of choice. This causes hissy fits here in Guys' Drama. When the furor dies down in this thread, the mob will return here to further opine that conservatives positions on social isssues are derived logically.
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Posted: 8/2/2014 4:56:18 AM EDT
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Typically, the LGBT community supports the idea that "gayness" is a matter of nature, one is born that way. This causes hissy fits here in Guys' Drama. Now comes a member of the LGBT community who posits that "gayness" is a matter of choice. This causes hissy fits here in Guys' Drama. When the furor dies down in this thread, the mob will return here to further opine that conservatives positions on social isssues are derived logically. As I stated in my post, I think there are genetics , environmental, and choice at play. I don't think it's a one or the other thing. |
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Posted: 8/2/2014 5:04:57 AM EDT
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This might be the most appropriate thread for the following meme...
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Posted: 8/2/2014 5:09:49 AM EDT
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if they are born that way it is a birth defect with a cause and a probable cure, if its a choice then no special civil rights. tough huh  If it is genetic it may not be "curable." Furthermore, whether it is a "defect" is a matter of opinion. For instance, is red hair a "defect" and curable? What "special civil rights" are gays asking for? |
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Posted: 8/2/2014 5:21:24 AM EDT
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As I stated in my post, I think there are genetics , environmental, and choice at play. I don't think it's a one or the other thing. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Typically, the LGBT community supports the idea that "gayness" is a matter of nature, one is born that way. This causes hissy fits here in Guys' Drama. Now comes a member of the LGBT community who posits that "gayness" is a matter of choice. This causes hissy fits here in Guys' Drama. When the furor dies down in this thread, the mob will return here to further opine that conservatives positions on social isssues are derived logically. As I stated in my post, I think there are genetics , environmental, and choice at play. I don't think it's a one or the other thing. That seems reasonable to me, but then I don't look for one-size-fits-all, bumper sticker explanations for complex psychosocial phenomena. |
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Posted: 8/2/2014 5:22:59 AM EDT
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Why is this even an issue? Who cares how other people get their rocks off. As long as they are not hurting others to do it.
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Posted: 8/2/2014 5:24:32 AM EDT
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different cultures have a panoply of understandings of sex, gender, and desire specific to their own worldviews
When you're with the Flintstones, have a yabba dabba doo time. A dabba doo time. We'll have a gay old time. |
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Posted: 8/2/2014 5:26:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If it's only 150 years, how do they explain the Biblical references that are thousands of years old, and the references to it in Indian culture and Chinese culture dating back ten thousand years ? |
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Posted: 8/2/2014 5:26:29 AM EDT
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Why is this even an issue? Who cares how other people get their rocks off. As long as they are not hurting others to do it. I want to be the first to welcome you back from your coma. |
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Posted: 8/2/2014 5:27:32 AM EDT
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It's interesting that homosexuality is one of the few areas where liberals are ready to credit genetics. When it comes to proclivity to criminality or intelligence, they scream bloody murder if you suggest a genetic component. /this Most of the reason for these things is the culture. As gay culture became more popular and accepted more people became gay - or at least comfortable enough to come out of the closest and set up a bar in West Miami to celebrate their sexual attraction. |
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Posted: 8/2/2014 5:28:23 AM EDT
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THE JOOOOOOS!!!! Shit, wrong thread. I meant THE GAAAAAAAYZ!!!
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Posted: 8/2/2014 5:28:27 AM EDT
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It sounds like the "historians" are generalizing as well. There was a tremendous amount of difference between standards of Sparta, Athens, Thebes, etc.
I think the fact that the Sacred Band is never discussed on here is interesting; considering how obsessed most of the members are with gay things.. |
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Posted: 8/2/2014 5:29:15 AM EDT
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PS: I have nothing against being gay. I do however don't think it's acceptable to define your lifestyle on what type of sex you engage in ... hopefully your life has more important things than that.
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Posted: 8/2/2014 5:30:46 AM EDT
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If it's only 150 years, how do they explain the Biblical references that are thousands of years old, and the references to it in Indian culture and Chinese culture dating back ten thousand years ? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/Filip_II_Macedonia.jpg/640px-Filip_II_Macedonia.jpg This guy obviously got his flat nose from giving too many bjs. |
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Posted: 8/2/2014 5:33:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's interesting that homosexuality is one of the few areas where liberals are ready to credit genetics. When it comes to proclivity to criminality or intelligence, they scream bloody murder if you suggest a genetic component. I've always wondered how a gay gene could be passed on....... |
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Posted: 8/2/2014 5:33:51 AM EDT
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It sounds like the "historians" are generalizing as well. There was a tremendous amount of difference between standards of Sparta, Athens, Thebes, etc. I think the fact that the Sacred Band is never discussed on here is interesting; considering how obsessed most of the members are with gay things.. The argument the article was making is that people who engaged in homosexual behavior were not labelled as "gay" and placed into a separate social group. |
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Posted: 8/2/2014 5:35:35 AM EDT
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If it is genetic it may not be "curable." Furthermore, whether it is a "defect" is a matter of opinion. For instance, is red hair a "defect" and curable? What "special civil rights" are gays asking for? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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if they are born that way it is a birth defect with a cause and a probable cure, if its a choice then no special civil rights. tough huh If it is genetic it may not be "curable." Furthermore, whether it is a "defect" is a matter of opinion. For instance, is red hair a "defect" and curable? What "special civil rights" are gays asking for? Red Hair helps people uptake vitimin D from the sun. This is a genetic trait that evolved in neanderthals as they moved into northern europe. They also evolved with blue, Gray and green eyes as a result of months of darkness in the far north as blue green or grey eyes capture more light than brown or black. What is the genetic benifit of a wang in the tookus instead of having children and passing on DNA which is the sole purpose of all life on planet earth? I could see sex between guys as a means for bonding, but that would ultimately aid in feeding and taking care of child. |
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Posted: 8/2/2014 5:37:43 AM EDT
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I've always wondered how a gay gene could be passed on....... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's interesting that homosexuality is one of the few areas where liberals are ready to credit genetics. When it comes to proclivity to criminality or intelligence, they scream bloody murder if you suggest a genetic component. I've always wondered how a gay gene could be passed on....... You don't understand genetics, do you? Hint - It's not all dominant... |
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Posted: 8/2/2014 5:38:22 AM EDT
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PS: I have nothing against being gay. I do however don't think it's acceptable to define your lifestyle on what type of sex you engage in ... hopefully your life has more important things than that. Which, according to the article, is a relatively recent (and Western) phenomenon. Nobody just wants to be a regular ol dude/girl. People want an identity that makes them "speshul". |
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Posted: 8/2/2014 5:39:59 AM EDT
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Homosexuality is a defect strictly from a Darwinian perspective. Cry about it all you want you liberals.
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Posted: 8/2/2014 5:54:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You don't understand genetics, do you? Hint - It's not all dominant... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: It's interesting that homosexuality is one of the few areas where liberals are ready to credit genetics. When it comes to proclivity to criminality or intelligence, they scream bloody murder if you suggest a genetic component. I've always wondered how a gay gene could be passed on....... You don't understand genetics, do you? Hint - It's not all dominant... I guess I don't understand it. I have a general idea of genetics, but the details I learned thirty years ago in HS didn't stick. It wasn't something that I used or thought about from day to day. When I did think about it (with my limited retained knowledge) I figured that without reinforcement, recessive genes would have died out. (shrug) |
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Posted: 8/2/2014 6:06:33 AM EDT
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Sounds like the Greeks didn't use mean, divisive labels like pedophile either.
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Posted: 8/2/2014 6:06:50 AM EDT
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I guess I don't understand it. I have a general idea of genetics, but the details I learned thirty years ago in HS didn't stick. It wasn't something that I used or thought about from day to day. When I did think about it (with my limited retained knowledge) I figured that without reinforcement, recessive genes would have died out. (shrug) Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's interesting that homosexuality is one of the few areas where liberals are ready to credit genetics. When it comes to proclivity to criminality or intelligence, they scream bloody murder if you suggest a genetic component. I've always wondered how a gay gene could be passed on....... You don't understand genetics, do you? Hint - It's not all dominant... I guess I don't understand it. I have a general idea of genetics, but the details I learned thirty years ago in HS didn't stick. It wasn't something that I used or thought about from day to day. When I did think about it (with my limited retained knowledge) I figured that without reinforcement, recessive genes would have died out. (shrug) I have a gay uncle that got hitched and had two kids before he came out. Being gay apparently doesn't mean you can't reproduce. Talk to the Afghanis about man love Thursdays. They suck dick and still have kids from the looks of it. I think human sexuality is probably a lot less bipolar than the labels gay and straight would make us think. Look at the thai lady boy phenomenon for evidence. Apparently there are more than a few dudes who don't mind a little bit of cock with their titties. |
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Posted: 8/2/2014 6:08:35 AM EDT
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Sounds like the Greeks didn't use mean, divisive labels like pedophile either. So if everybody is a pervert, nobody is? Scary thought of the day.
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Posted: 8/2/2014 6:11:16 AM EDT
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I have a gay uncle that got hitched and had two kids before he came out. Being gay apparently doesn't mean you can't reproduce. Talk to the Afghanis about man love Thursdays. They suck dick and still have kids from the looks of it. I think human sexuality is probably a lot less bipolar than the labels gay and straight would make us think. Look at the thai lady boy phenomenon for evidence. Apparently there are more than a few dudes who don't mind a little bit of cock with their titties. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I guess I don't understand it. I have a general idea of genetics, but the details I learned thirty years ago in HS didn't stick. It wasn't something that I used or thought about from day to day. When I did think about it (with my limited retained knowledge) I figured that without reinforcement, recessive genes would have died out. (shrug) I have a gay uncle that got hitched and had two kids before he came out. Being gay apparently doesn't mean you can't reproduce. Talk to the Afghanis about man love Thursdays. They suck dick and still have kids from the looks of it. I think human sexuality is probably a lot less bipolar than the labels gay and straight would make us think. Look at the thai lady boy phenomenon for evidence. Apparently there are more than a few dudes who don't mind a little bit of cock with their titties. Oh good lord. Don't let GD think about a sexual continuum... |
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Posted: 8/2/2014 6:21:49 AM EDT
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Much epic butthurt in this thread. Lol
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Posted: 8/2/2014 6:26:14 AM EDT
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Oh, look. Another one of these threads! |
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Posted: 8/2/2014 6:27:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, all that stuff about the ancient Greeks and their homosexual antics... Untrue. The mosaics in roman bathhouses depicting gay stuff? The devil put it there. These "historians" are morons with an agenda obviously. |
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Posted: 8/2/2014 6:27:58 AM EDT
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The identity-politics of the matter are a relatively modern issue. Other cultures had developed third gender roles, rationalizations for the behavior, or condemnation, depending on the prevailing needs of the time.
What neither side wants to discuss is the notion of a sexuality spectrum, wherein there is no absolute heterosexuality or homosexuality, which explains the differing reactions and roles of various behaviors.
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Posted: 8/2/2014 6:28:38 AM EDT
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More proof that at least half the members on this site spends all their waking time obsessing about gays. Way more time than even a gay dude who is in a gay marriage and owns a gay bar where other gays come and talk about gay everything. You know, fuck it, this place just needs to change its name to GayR15.com and be done with it. Fucking FPNI Hell, the only time that I really think about the gay is when one of these topics comes up, or I'm forced to ask my partner to help me pick out "nice goin' out in public clothes" from my collection of wifebeaters and oil stained jeans. 
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Posted: 8/2/2014 6:29:41 AM EDT
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To an extent, I agree. You can always change your mind. Heterosexuality is a default setting. You can always go back if you want. How? I would like to know. |
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Posted: 8/2/2014 6:31:04 AM EDT
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Reading is for faggots. That's why nobody does it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It appears that most read nothing but the thread title and got their feelings hurt. Reading only appeared in Western Culture in the last 150 years? |
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Posted: 8/2/2014 6:31:35 AM EDT
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More proof that at least half the members on this site spends all their waking time obsessing about gays. Way more time than even a gay dude who is in a gay marriage and owns a gay bar where other gays come and talk about gay everything. You know, fuck it, this place just needs to change its name to GayR15.com and be done with it.  True and funny! A winning combination.
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Posted: 8/2/2014 6:32:08 AM EDT
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More proof that at least half the members on this site spends all their waking time obsessing about gays. Way more time than even a gay dude who is in a gay marriage and owns a gay bar where other gays come and talk about gay everything. You know, fuck it, this place just needs to change its name to GayR15.com and be done with it. Best post of the day! |
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Posted: 8/2/2014 6:32:09 AM EDT
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If it's only 150 years, how do they explain the Biblical references that are thousands of years old, and the references to it in Indian culture and Chinese culture dating back ten thousand years ? With prescriptions against the aberrant behavior. |
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Posted: 8/2/2014 6:32:49 AM EDT
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Reading only appeared in Western Culture in the last 150 years? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It appears that most read nothing but the thread title and got their feelings hurt. Reading only appeared in Western Culture in the last 150 years? Nope the faggots stole the reading. |
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Posted: 8/2/2014 6:33:13 AM EDT
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The article said the sociologists/ anthropologists doing the research were predominantly gay by a wide margin. Don't care if someone is gay. Do care when it empowers them to seek more privilege because of their sexual preferences. Just another special interest group lobbying for more special privilege above the average citizen. So the agenda, it brings questions... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yeah, all that stuff about the ancient Greeks and their homosexual antics... Untrue. The mosaics in roman bathhouses depicting gay stuff? The devil put it there. These "historians" are morons with an agenda obviously. Only gays can have an agenda The article said the sociologists/ anthropologists doing the research were predominantly gay by a wide margin. Don't care if someone is gay. Do care when it empowers them to seek more privilege because of their sexual preferences. Just another special interest group lobbying for more special privilege above the average citizen. So the agenda, it brings questions... There is truth in that observation. Many well known figures in anthropology are homosexual. |
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Posted: 8/2/2014 6:35:49 AM EDT
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The world needs more Gay liberals. Maybe democrats will die off.
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Posted: 8/2/2014 6:36:49 AM EDT
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More proof that at least half the members on this site spends all their waking time obsessing about gays. Way more time than even a gay dude who is in a gay marriage and owns a gay bar where other gays come and talk about gay everything. You know, fuck it, this place just needs to change its name to GayR15.com and be done with it. True and funny! A winning combination.
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Posted: 8/2/2014 6:36:57 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/2/2014 6:40:10 AM EDT
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Nope the faggots stole the reading. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It appears that most read nothing but the thread title and got their feelings hurt. Reading only appeared in Western Culture in the last 150 years? Nope the faggots stole the reading. 
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Posted: 8/2/2014 6:41:26 AM EDT
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Give me yo wallet.. and those awesome shoes, OMG! |
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Posted: 8/2/2014 6:45:03 AM EDT
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90% of Gays and Lesbians Vote for Barack Obama and Helped the President Win Close Election http://miamiherald.typepad.com/gaysouthflorida/2012/11/poll-90-percent-of-gays-lesbians-voted-for-obama.html Of course they fucking did. Why wouldn't they? |
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Posted: 8/2/2014 6:49:28 AM EDT
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Of course they fucking did. Why wouldn't they? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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90% of Gays and Lesbians Vote for Barack Obama and Helped the President Win Close Election http://miamiherald.typepad.com/gaysouthflorida/2012/11/poll-90-percent-of-gays-lesbians-voted-for-obama.html Of course they fucking did. Why wouldn't they? A depressing fact. Thankfully none of the gays that we associate with voted for the fuckstain.. but most of them simply didn't vote, rather than vote R.  We have converted a few of them, however. 
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Posted: 8/2/2014 7:04:01 AM EDT
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It's interesting that homosexuality is one of the few areas where liberals are ready to credit genetics. When it comes to proclivity to criminality or intelligence, they scream bloody murder if you suggest a genetic component. Plus1 |
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Posted: 8/2/2014 7:07:14 AM EDT
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Yeah, all that stuff about the ancient Greeks and their homosexual antics... Untrue. The mosaics in roman bathhouses depicting gay stuff? The devil put it there. These "historians" are morons with an agenda obviously. Reading is for faggots. Murica! |
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Posted: 8/2/2014 7:10:43 AM EDT
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Yeah, all that stuff about the ancient Greeks and their homosexual antics... Untrue. The mosaics in roman bathhouses depicting gay stuff? The devil put it there. These "historians" are morons with an agenda obviously. I was under the impression that the Greeks invented sex and the Romans introduced the concept to women! |
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Posted: 8/2/2014 7:11:08 AM EDT
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If it's only 150 years, how do they explain the Biblical references that are thousands of years old, and the references to it in Indian culture and Chinese culture dating back ten thousand years ? whats this sodom & Gomorrah you speak of...... |
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Posted: 8/2/2014 7:11:08 AM EDT
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More proof that at least half the members on this site spends all their waking time obsessing about gays. Way more time than even a gay dude who is in a gay marriage and owns a gay bar where other gays come and talk about gay everything. You know, fuck it, this place just needs to change its name to GayR15.com and be done with it. FPNI to the maximum overdrive. The ultra conservative neckbeards that obsess over homos and abortion are quite odd. They are gayer than the gays they obsess over. On topic: I don't care if someone is gay, but I don't think anyone is born that way. |
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Posted: 8/2/2014 7:12:14 AM EDT
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