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Posted: 12/24/2012 1:38:52 PM EDT

[#1]

Wasn't the discussion about David Gregory breaking DC's hi-cap magazine law by possessing one on TV?

Then, the DCPolice responded to an email request that they had turned down NBC's request to use one, and are now investigating?

Yeah, that's what I recall.

Posted: 12/24/2012 1:39:00 PM EDT

[#2]

Quoted:

update:

E-mail response:

"From: "DC Police (imailagent)" <[email protected]>

Subject: Email from DC Police (Intranet Quorum IMA00519327)

Date: December 24, 2012 4:13:12 PM EST

To: (OODA_Loop)
The Metropolitan Police Department is in receipt of your e-mail regarding David Gregory segment on "Meet the Press." MPD has received numerous e-mails informing us of the segment. NBC contacted MPD inquiring if they could utilize a high capacity magazine for their segment. NBC was informed that possession of a high capacity magazines is not permissible and their request was denied. This matter is currently being investigated. Thank you for taking the time to bring this matter to our attention.

Customer Service - Metropolitan Police Department"

Niiiiice!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTkw1-LW7M8&feature=related

Posted: 12/24/2012 1:39:47 PM EDT

[#3]

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To charge for aggravated robbery all you need is the footage. That was my point.

I agree....because whatever the perceived weapon is placed them in fear.

But youre not going to get a poss. of a firearm while committing a crinme of violence charge out of it because you saw a firearm on the tape.

You actually need the contraband for the charge to be filed.

I see what you are saying for the special circumstance charge.

I still say charge him and let him defend himself. He got on national TV with the mag and claimed it was a 30 rounder. NBC documented the commission of the crime.

Plenty of PC for an arrest and a charge. Conduct an investigation and find the PA who purchased the mag (likely across state lines). Examine expense accounts to find the charge, etc, etc... Plenty of evidence.

Posted: 12/24/2012 1:42:20 PM EDT

[#4]

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[Dude, I could easily pass as a "firearms expert" in a court of law. If I saw a mag within 1-3 feet of my face I could easily tell it was real or not. Sight, Sound, even smell sometimes can give it away. Yeah, LaPierres' testimony could be damning.

Does on a TV screen count without the actual piece of contraband?

We do murder trials without a body or video. In this case we have a video confession.

Posted: 12/24/2012 1:43:22 PM EDT

[#5]

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[Dude, I could easily pass as a "firearms expert" in a court of law. If I saw a mag within 1-3 feet of my face I could easily tell it was real or not. Sight, Sound, even smell sometimes can give it away. Yeah, LaPierres' testimony could be damning.

Does on a TV screen count without the actual piece of contraband?

If you had CCTV footage of a convenience store robbery, but never recovered the weapon used in the robbery, would that "count?"

To charge robbery or to tack on a Poss. of firearm charge?

You can charge 1st degree robbery even if its an airsoft since they feared it might be real.

No tack on charge.....prove its not an airsoft.

When you seize a firearm for a charge like that you have to test fire it to show it's in proper working order and actually a firearm.

No gun....no charge.

Edit: heres the definition of a firearm in my state. If you can't prove it fires a steel/ metal projectile then its not a firearm.

(3) "Firearm" includes any machine gun, pistol, rifle, air rifle, air pistol, "blank gun," "BB gun," or other instrument from which steel or metal projectiles are propelled, or which may readily be converted to expel a projectile, except crossbows, recurve, compound, or longbows, and except instruments propelling projectiles which are designed or normally used for a primary purpose other than as a weapon. The frame or receiver of the weapon shall be construed as a firearm under the provisions of this section.

Ive gotten the firearm enhancement in robberies where the gun was never recovered and the defense argued it was a replica firearm.

Posted: 12/24/2012 1:44:11 PM EDT

[#6]

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Yes I'm in law enforcement. Thats why I'm pointing out the folly of this.

What evidence sre you going to bring into court?

Sorry if my knowledge of the criminal justice system makes me sound obtuse.

Without that specific magazine being seized you have no evidence. You think NBC will just hand it over? You think MPD is going to do a search warrant to look for it?

Sorry to rain on the parade but beyond a reasonable doubt is a pretty high standard to meet with only a video and no actual evidence.

Y'all can go back to your circle jerk about MPD actually investigating this now

Even if all we are doing is pointing out the folly of magazine bans, and even if that message only reaches the ears (and more importantly, brains) of a few thousand people who suddenly realize the folly of gun control laws, we've done a good thing.

You can dismiss it if you wish. I for one think it's a a valuable act.

Posted: 12/24/2012 1:44:33 PM EDT

[#7]

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To charge for aggravated robbery all you need is the footage. That was my point.

I agree....because whatever the perceived weapon is placed them in fear.

But youre not going to get a poss. of a firearm while committing a crinme of violence charge out of it because you saw a firearm on the tape.

You actually need the contraband for the charge to be filed.

People have been charged with felon in possession of a firearm over facebook photos where the firearm was never recovered.

Posted: 12/24/2012 1:45:56 PM EDT

[#8]

Quoted:
update:

E-mail response:

"From: "DC Police (imailagent)" <[email protected]>
Subject: Email from DC Police (Intranet Quorum IMA00519327)
Date: December 24, 2012 4:13:12 PM EST
To: (OODA_Loop)

The Metropolitan Police Department is in receipt of your e-mail regarding David Gregory segment on "Meet the Press." MPD has received numerous e-mails informing us of the segment. NBC contacted MPD inquiring if they could utilize a high capacity magazine for their segment. NBC was informed that possession of a high capacity magazines is not permissible and their request was denied. This matter is currently being investigated. Thank you for taking the time to bring this matter to our attention.

Customer Service - Metropolitan Police Department"

Wow.

Posted: 12/24/2012 1:47:58 PM EDT

[#9]

Quoted:
Forward that email to The Blaze and to Breitbart TV.

This!

Posted: 12/24/2012 1:48:21 PM EDT

[#10]

Quoted:
Nothing will come of it...

because "He was just reporting"

The most that will happen is he'll get fined $1000, which his boss will pay. The media will somehow twist things around to make him look like a god and he'll get to host his own morning show called "David".

Posted: 12/24/2012 1:48:38 PM EDT

[#11]

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It'll get bumped up to the Police Chief, since it involves a member of the media, who will ask the Mayor what to do, who will ask Eleanor Holmes Norton what to do (she's the non-voting DC representative of the House), who will ask her master Mr Obama what he wants done about it. Being as the TV reporter sends his kids to the same school as the President does, and is in the same social circles, it's a fair bet IMHO that this will be quashed pronto. Nothing will come of it - after all the elitists are NOT subject to the same laws as we the peons.

We'll all wail and gnash our teeth, and the game of some animals are more equal than others will continue on it's merry way.

I would think DC cops would be very much like the scum of humanity that they " serve".
Refer to the top of the page, where I wrote:

This is black and white, open and shut.

He's guilty. Busted right on TV.

The only remaining issue is if LE will do the right thing, or the political thing.

LE exists to enforce laws, failing to enforce this "in your face" violation will make LE inept or complicit. Which is it?

Posted: 12/24/2012 1:51:48 PM EDT

[#12]

Question for lawyers from someone who knows dick about law: If he gets away with this, could this set a precedent for people who might get in trouble with banned mags?

Posted: 12/24/2012 1:51:55 PM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:

Quoted:
update:

E-mail response:

"From: "DC Police (imailagent)" <[email protected]>
Subject: Email from DC Police (Intranet Quorum IMA00519327)
Date: December 24, 2012 4:13:12 PM EST
To: (OODA_Loop)

The Metropolitan Police Department is in receipt of your e-mail regarding David Gregory segment on "Meet the Press." MPD has received numerous e-mails informing us of the segment. NBC contacted MPD inquiring if they could utilize a high capacity magazine for their segment. NBC was informed that possession of a high capacity magazines is not permissible and their request was denied. This matter is currently being investigated. Thank you for taking the time to bring this matter to our attention.

Customer Service - Metropolitan Police Department"

Wow.

Awesome. They are lucky. I could tell by looking at that "30 rnd clip" that it was indeed an "assault clip" and therefore could have started some chit.

Posted: 12/24/2012 1:53:26 PM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:

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Nothing will come of it...

because "He was just reporting"

The most that will happen is he'll get fined $1000, which his boss will pay. The media will somehow twist things around to make him look like a god and he'll get to host his own morning show called "David".

Perhaps reporters will begin to do research, assuring that they don't end up looking silly or being charged - because the lie that there are no gun laws has been exposed.

Perhaps.

Posted: 12/24/2012 1:54:10 PM EDT

[#15]

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[snip]

So how do you know, beyond a reasonable doubt, that it actually was a "high capacity magazine"????

This question was asked pages ago. Here is my response...

The suspect appears to have broken the law. He should be arrested, charged, and can defend himself in court just like any one of us would have to. It should also cost him thousands in legal fees, his job, and possibly his family just as it would us.

If the magazine had a round limiting device installed, they can bring it to court, with proof of purchase before the airing. It's a great defense and brings honesty to the conversation. Mainly that there are gun control laws currently in place.

Also, did he present it as a 30 rd mag on air that could be used to te effect that he admitted that it is a 30 rd mag, ths admitting to the crime?

Posted: 12/24/2012 1:54:21 PM EDT

[#16]

Quoted:
Question for lawyers from someone who knows dick about law: If he gets away with this, could this set a precedent for people who might get in trouble with banned mags?

No. The lack of an arrest, lack of a filing or even a dismissal does not establish precedence. Thats the roll of appeals courts.

Posted: 12/24/2012 1:55:02 PM EDT

[#17]

Quoted:

Quoted:

update:

E-mail response:

"From: "DC Police (imailagent)" <[email protected]>

Subject: Email from DC Police (Intranet Quorum IMA00519327)

Date: December 24, 2012 4:13:12 PM EST

To: (OODA_Loop)

The Metropolitan Police Department is in receipt of your e-mail regarding David Gregory segment on "Meet the Press." MPD has received numerous e-mails informing us of the segment. NBC contacted MPD inquiring if they could utilize a high capacity magazine for their segment. NBC was informed that possession of a high capacity magazines is not permissible and their request was denied. This matter is currently being investigated. Thank you for taking the time to bring this matter to our attention.

Customer Service - Metropolitan Police Department"

So how do you know, beyond a reasonable doubt, that it actually was a "high capacity magazine"????

It looked like a DUCK, walked like a DUCK, quaked like a DUCK, smelled like a DUCK - and best of all - HE SAID IT WAS A DUCK!!!

What if he held up a bag of oregano and said it was marijuana, or a mason jar filled with vodka and called it white lightning?

I'm sure it was a 30 rounder......but what we know and what we can prove in court are two different things.

The legal precedents on that one are pretty clear that it is still illegal, IIRC.

Example.

Example 2.

Example 3 (best example).

I don't feel like looking up the relevant statutes right now.

Posted: 12/24/2012 1:56:08 PM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:

What are the range of penalties for this?

How does a felony conviction affect his career? Hasn't hurt Martha.

$1000 fine and a year in jail

Posted: 12/24/2012 1:56:14 PM EDT

[#19]

Quoted:

To charge robbery or to tack on a Poss. of firearm charge?

You can charge 1st degree robbery even if its an airsoft since they feared it might be real.

No tack on charge.....prove its not an airsoft.

When you seize a firearm for a charge like that you have to test fire it to show it's in proper working order and actually a firearm.

No gun....no charge.

Edit: heres the definition of a firearm in my state. If you can't prove it fires a steel/ metal projectile then its not a firearm.

(3) "Firearm" includes any machine gun, pistol, rifle, air rifle, air pistol, "blank gun," "BB gun," or other instrument from which steel or metal projectiles are propelled, or which may readily be converted to expel a projectile, except crossbows, recurve, compound, or longbows, and except instruments propelling projectiles which are designed or normally used for a primary purpose other than as a weapon. The frame or receiver of the weapon shall be construed as a firearm under the provisions of this section.

No offense meant but you're applying the laws of your state to other areas of the country. I believe in my state you can be charged with having a weapon if you say you have a weapon even if you never show 1 during the commission of a crime. So we'd have to know what the DC law says, not RI or NH or any other laws.

He said it was a 30rd mag and there's video proof documneting he had possession of it. it looks like 1 and from what I've seen of it doesn't appear to be altered to take less, even if it was he's claiming it to be a 30rd mag. Whoever else that handled or bought (interns) that was also in possession of the illegal mag should be charged. Fuck em. They're trying to jump all over our rights and spread misinformation like it's gospel, now they're caught fucking up in violation of AWB laws that are already in place.

Posted: 12/24/2012 1:57:23 PM EDT

[#20]

Quoted:

Quoted:

What are the range of penalties for this?

How does a felony conviction affect his career? Hasn't hurt Martha.

$1000 fine and a year in jail

ETA NVM.

Posted: 12/24/2012 1:57:42 PM EDT

[#21]

Quoted:

Quoted:
What are the range of penalties for this?

How does a felony conviction affect his career? Hasn't hurt Martha.

$1000 fine and a year in jail

so Not a felony

Posted: 12/24/2012 1:58:19 PM EDT

[#22]

Quoted:

Quoted:
What are the range of penalties for this?

How does a felony conviction affect his career? Hasn't hurt Martha.

$1000 fine and a year in jail

And no more voting?

not a felony

Posted: 12/24/2012 1:59:28 PM EDT

[#23]

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If this isn't prosecuted, can we move to have the law struck down as the people responsible for enforcement obviously don't beleive the law to be meaningful?

Hopefully he's charged, convicted, then he appeals and the law is struck down. Thanks in advance David Gregory!!!!!

Posted: 12/24/2012 1:59:40 PM EDT

[#24]

If you want to watch the vid

Posted: 12/24/2012 2:00:23 PM EDT

[#25]

Is this some new drug? ?
marihuana - from example 3

Posted: 12/24/2012 2:01:19 PM EDT

[#26]

Quoted:

Also, did he present it as a 30 rd mag on air that could be used to te effect that he admitted that it is a 30 rd mag, ths admitting to the crime?

Couldn't have phrased it better myself.

Posted: 12/24/2012 2:02:14 PM EDT

[#27]

Quoted:
Wasn't the discussion about David Gregory breaking DC's hi-cap magazine law by possessing one on TV?

Then, the DCPolice responded to an email request that they had turned down NBC's request to use one, and are now investigating?

Yeah, that's what I recall.

Fingers crossed, but probably will amount to nothing. Gregory's one of the good ole boys.

Posted: 12/24/2012 2:05:01 PM EDT

[#28]

Quoted:

What if he held up a bag of oregano and said it was marijuana, or a mason jar filled with vodka and called it white lightning?

I'm sure it was a 30 rounder......but what we know and what we can prove in court are two different things.

If I held up a bag of oregano, the cops would get a no-knock warrant to my house, kick my door in, seize my house and car, and lock me up until I proved it was oregano.
Assuming I survived, after I proved it was oregano I could sue (after putting 10% down) to get my car and house back.

Posted: 12/24/2012 2:05:02 PM EDT

[#29]

Quoted:

If you want to watch the vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA3rmC3BlIQ

About 9 minutes in...

Posted: 12/24/2012 2:05:29 PM EDT

[#30]

Quoted:
devil's advocate

This is a non-violent crime even if a felony.

Should David lose his gun and voting rights over this? After all if he's free to live in our society he should have all the same rights as any other free man

Absolutely. He clearly would have us lose our gun rights to suit his and his ilk's agenda. I think it's only fair that he be subject to the same.

Posted: 12/24/2012 2:08:06 PM EDT

[#31]

I also sent this after receiving their reply ealier today..

Thanks
Also if he is not prosecuted, I too would like to get permission to bring a 30rd mag to DC to do a youtube video
on how just owning a hollow piece of plastic doesnt hurt anyone.

I plan on taking it to the Lincoln memorial, Penn ave and then finally the Smithsonian.

No guns will be brought, just the empty mag.

Thanks for your time and I look forward to your reply.

Joe

Posted: 12/24/2012 2:09:07 PM EDT

[#32]

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That is excellent. I hope a prosecutor grows some and takes this case on. The point needs to be reinforced:

Criminals do not care what laws you enact.

And isn't it ironic how LaPierre harped on enforcing the gun law that are already on the book while on Gregory's show, yet Gregory blatantly violates those same laws on national TV?

Posted: 12/24/2012 2:12:18 PM EDT

[#33]

Ask David what he thinks should happen then show his decision on nat TV

Free

Quoted:
devil's advocate

This is a non-violent crime even if a felony.

Should David lose his gun and voting rights over this? After all if he's free to live in our society he should have all the same rights as any other free man

Posted: 12/24/2012 2:14:38 PM EDT

[#34]

Quoted:
Regardless of the outcome, we can use it to our advantage.

Its been said many times......

We all know what's going on here, he and his show broke the law with blatant disregard.

Posted: 12/24/2012 2:14:52 PM EDT

[#35]

Quoted:

Quoted:
update:

E-mail response:

"From: "DC Police (imailagent)" <[email protected]>
Subject: Email from DC Police (Intranet Quorum IMA00519327)
Date: December 24, 2012 4:13:12 PM EST
To: (OODA_Loop)

The Metropolitan Police Department is in receipt of your e-mail regarding David Gregory segment on "Meet the Press." MPD has received numerous e-mails informing us of the segment. NBC contacted MPD inquiring if they could utilize a high capacity magazine for their segment. NBC was informed that possession of a high capacity magazines is not permissible and their request was denied. This matter is currently being investigated. Thank you for taking the time to bring this matter to our attention.

Customer Service - Metropolitan Police Department"

Can I repost this on FB?

The plot thickens.

Posted: 12/24/2012 2:17:46 PM EDT

[#36]

Quoted:

I also sent this after receiving their reply ealier today..

Thanks

Also if he is not prosecuted, I too would like to get permission to bring a 30rd mag to DC to do a youtube video

on how just owning a hollow piece of plastic doesnt hurt anyone.

I plan on taking it to the Lincoln memorial, Penn ave and then finally the Smithsonian.

No guns will be brought, just the empty mag.

Thanks for your time and I look forward to your reply.

Joe

I hope you have a "Press Pass", and no dog.

Listen up, maggots. You are not special. You are not a beautiful or
unique snowflake. You're the same decaying organic matter as everything
else - UNLESS YOU WORK FOR NBC NEWS.

Posted: 12/24/2012 2:20:43 PM EDT

[#37]

Quoted:

Quoted:
update:

E-mail response:

"From: "DC Police (imailagent)" <[email protected]>
Subject: Email from DC Police (Intranet Quorum IMA00519327)
Date: December 24, 2012 4:13:12 PM EST
To: (OODA_Loop)

The Metropolitan Police Department is in receipt of your e-mail regarding David Gregory segment on "Meet the Press." MPD has received numerous e-mails informing us of the segment. NBC contacted MPD inquiring if they could utilize a high capacity magazine for their segment. NBC was informed that possession of a high capacity magazines is not permissible and their request was denied. This matter is currently being investigated. Thank you for taking the time to bring this matter to our attention.

Customer Service - Metropolitan Police Department"

So how do you know, beyond a reasonable doubt, that it actually was a "high capacity magazine"????

It looked like a DUCK, walked like a DUCK, quaked like a DUCK, smelled like a DUCK - and best of all - HE SAID IT WAS A DUCK!!!

What if he held up a bag of oregano and said it was marijuana, or a mason jar filled with vodka and called it white lightning?

I'm sure it was a 30 rounder......but what we know and what we can prove in court are two different things.

I'll bet Wayne can verify it was an actual 30 round mag.

That's what I was thinking - he was sitting there right in front of him while he was waving it around.

Posted: 12/24/2012 2:22:02 PM EDT

[#38]

Quoted:

Quoted:

This is black and white, open and shut.

He's guilty. Busted right on TV.

The only remaining issue is if LE will do the right thing, or the political thing.

LE exists to enforce laws, failing to enforce this "in your face" violation will make LE inept or complicit. Which is it?

Yes.

I don't think there were enough whiteness, only a few million.

Posted: 12/24/2012 2:24:48 PM EDT

[#39]

Quoted:

Quoted:
update:

E-mail response:

"From: "DC Police (imailagent)" <[email protected]>
Subject: Email from DC Police (Intranet Quorum IMA00519327)
Date: December 24, 2012 4:13:12 PM EST
To: (OODA_Loop)

The Metropolitan Police Department is in receipt of your e-mail regarding David Gregory segment on "Meet the Press." MPD has received numerous e-mails informing us of the segment. NBC contacted MPD inquiring if they could utilize a high capacity magazine for their segment. NBC was informed that possession of a high capacity magazines is not permissible and their request was denied. This matter is currently being investigated. Thank you for taking the time to bring this matter to our attention.

Customer Service - Metropolitan Police Department"

It's Christmas!!!!

yes it is

Yes Virigna there is a Sants Claus.

Posted: 12/24/2012 2:24:51 PM EDT

[#40]

Quoted:

Quoted:

To charge for aggravated robbery all you need is the footage. That was my point.

I agree....because whatever the perceived weapon is placed them in fear.

But youre not going to get a poss. of a firearm while committing a crinme of violence charge out of it because you saw a firearm on the tape.

You actually need the contraband for the charge to be filed.

People have been charged with felon in possession of a firearm over facebook photos where the firearm was never recovered.

Not in my neck of the woods.

Posted: 12/24/2012 2:25:12 PM EDT

[#41]

Quoted:

His kids should be thrown out of that fancy school - daddy is playing with illegal gun parts, who's to say he doesn't load that evil magazine and enter the school?

Yup. Send his kids to an undefended "gangbangers R us sink school".

Fuck him, and his family (yes, in the coming fight, everyone, including their families, are fair game)

Posted: 12/24/2012 2:26:23 PM EDT

[#42]

Quoted:
devil's advocate

This is a non-violent crime even if a felony.

Should David lose his gun and voting rights over this? After all if he's free to live in our society he should have all the same rights as any other free man

For an asshole pushing for more gun laws, yes, he should get busted.

Posted: 12/24/2012 2:26:44 PM EDT

[#43]

Quoted:
update:

E-mail response:

"From: "DC Police (imailagent)" <[email protected]>
Subject: Email from DC Police (Intranet Quorum IMA00519327)
Date: December 24, 2012 4:13:12 PM EST
To: (OODA_Loop)

The Metropolitan Police Department is in receipt of your e-mail regarding David Gregory segment on "Meet the Press." MPD has received numerous e-mails informing us of the segment. NBC contacted MPD inquiring if they could utilize a high capacity magazine for their segment. NBC was informed that possession of a high capacity magazines is not permissible and their request was denied. This matter is currently being investigated. Thank you for taking the time to bring this matter to our attention.

Customer Service - Metropolitan Police Department"

Many thanks to all those who stayed on top of this.

Posted: 12/24/2012 2:28:13 PM EDT

[#44]

Quoted:

You're such a trouble maker.

Well done.

I don't like that law, as practically everyone here would agree...

BUT

If there are laws: 1.) make them admit they exist 2.) abide like the rest of us

Now this is using solid Alinsky tactics against them. Make them live up to their own rules, because no one can. This is how we Conservatives should have been playing for a long time now. Next, we need to actually put some teeth into that whole contempt of Congress thing, and haul Holder out in cuffs. Then, since it was an OCDETF op, haul Hillary out in cuffs too. Since Obama claimed Executive privilage, and the only way he can legally do that is if he was involved, haul his ass out under the Klieg Lights in cuffs also.

Posted: 12/24/2012 2:28:25 PM EDT

[#45]

We could wield this David Gregory incident like the hammer of Thor a million ways to Sunday.

Heres one idea.....
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1409087___ARF_NRA_Charity_rescue_fund____once_David_Gregory_s_charges_are_official___.html

Posted: 12/24/2012 2:28:32 PM EDT

[#46]

Quoted:

Quoted:

To charge for aggravated robbery all you need is the footage. That was my point.

I agree....because whatever the perceived weapon is placed them in fear.

But youre not going to get a poss. of a firearm while committing a crinme of violence charge out of it because you saw a firearm on the tape.

You actually need the contraband for the charge to be filed.

I see what you are saying for the special circumstance charge.

I still say charge him and let him defend himself. He got on national TV with the mag and claimed it was a 30 rounder. NBC documented the commission of the crime.

Plenty of PC for an arrest and a charge. Conduct an investigation and find the PA who purchased the mag (likely across state lines). Examine expense accounts to find the charge, etc, etc... Plenty of evidence.

That poor poor intern

Posted: 12/24/2012 2:29:09 PM EDT

[#47]

Quoted:

The legal precedents on that one are pretty clear that it is still illegal, IIRC.

Example.

Example 2.

Example 3 (best example).

I don't feel like looking up the relevant statutes right now.

All 3 of your examples had to do with delivering counterfeit substances. There are laws against that.

Posted: 12/24/2012 2:34:27 PM EDT

[#48]

If he gets charged, Lapierre should offer the NRA to represent him and challenge the law.

Posted: 12/24/2012 2:35:58 PM EDT

[#49]

Quoted:
devil's advocate

This is a non-violent crime even if a felony.

Should David lose his gun and voting rights over this? After all if he's free to live in our society he should have all the same rights as any other free man

he would cheer you losing yours, and then demonize you on national television, so turn about is fair play. fuck him.

Posted: 12/24/2012 2:36:13 PM EDT

[#50]

Quoted:
If he gets charged, Lapierre should offer the NRA to represent him and challenge the law.

We ought to do is straight from here, who better than www.AR15.com

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1409087___ARF_NRA_Charity_rescue_fund____once_David_Gregory_s_charges_are_official___.html

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