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Posted: 9/23/2014 8:14:15 AM EDT
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Man.. so much derp in the earlier pages of the thread. Syria was notified we were coming and you know what? They do not mind at this time as the reason for the French attack last week and what we are doing now is because the last week or so Isis had been kicking the crap out of Assads troops and making a major push and in doing so has caused a possibly major destabilizing situation in Turkey as they are being flooded with refugees they can not take care of. If we do not blunt them now odds are decent they are going to win and take Assad down. Which means what exactly for us? I don't see ant reason why we should care about Assad. He not running his country anymore anyway. He been at war for what three years now? |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 8:16:01 AM EDT
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Man.. so much derp in the earlier pages of the thread. Syria was notified we were coming and you know what? They do not mind at this time as the reason for the French attack last week and what we are doing now is because the last week or so Isis had been kicking the crap out of Assads troops and making a major push and in doing so has caused a possibly major destabilizing situation in Turkey as they are being flooded with refugees they can not take care of. If we do not blunt them now odds are decent they are going to win and take Assad down. Two for one? |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 8:21:09 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/23/2014 8:22:39 AM EDT
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I'm still confused as to exactly WHO we are bombing. Is it ISIS? ISIL? (why does zero make a distinction?) Assad? a sliver of ISIL? We funded and supplied the FSA - which is in part ISIS... right? Yes er...no...Uh it depends....Hey look a tomahawk...LOook. |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 8:23:02 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/23/2014 8:25:08 AM EDT
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As that pretty Muslim woman who lives in America and despises Jihad said: "Moderate Muslims are irrelevant". Just like the ordinary German people were irrelevant when the Nazis were in power. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wait...is this the same Syria where we were sending weapons and money to arm rebels? Oh no not just ANY rebels. Moderate muslims.....Whatever the hell that is. I gues its the ones that will behead you tomorrow instead of today? As that pretty Muslim woman who lives in America and despises Jihad said: "Moderate Muslims are irrelevant". Just like the ordinary German people were irrelevant when the Nazis were in power. The guy with the rifle and the will to use it usually make the unarmed pacifist irrelevant. |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 8:26:19 AM EDT
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......................... The guy with the rifle and the will to use it usually make the unarmed pacifist irrelevant. |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 8:26:57 AM EDT
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where the hell is Europe????? 
Canada? Australia? where they always are. sipping expensive coffee on vacation. |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 8:30:20 AM EDT
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in for aloooha snackbar vids!
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Posted: 9/23/2014 8:31:03 AM EDT
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Nobel peace prize man of the century!
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Posted: 9/23/2014 8:32:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why join a war that that will be half assed and end in a tie or a loss. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Sounds like only Sunni Arabs came with us. No UK, no France, no Australia, not even the Canadians came along to kick off WW3. Why join a war that that will be half assed and end in a tie or a loss. |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 8:33:28 AM EDT
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where they always are. sipping expensive coffee on vacation. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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where the hell is Europe?????
Canada? Australia? where they always are. sipping expensive coffee on vacation. In other words, taking the smarter path. |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 8:36:36 AM EDT
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First Obama says that ISIL is no real threat. He says they are the JV. Now he is expending American military assets to attack them. He is confused, isn't he? Does anybody have a clue what we are really doing? Decades after decades we elect idiots to office and we get idiotic foreign policy and then we wonder why things are so fucked up. Idiots, doing idiot things, because they're idiots. |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 8:38:53 AM EDT
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So, this is called Operation What? Operation Mid-Terms |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 8:47:02 AM EDT
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Remember when declaring war was the purview of Congress? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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U.S. Central Command @CENTCOM · 11m The decision to conduct these strikes was made earlier today by CENTCOM commander under authorization granted him by the president.
Remember when declaring war was the purview of Congress? Which I note no one on this board cared about when Bush didn't bother with it. And no an "authorization of the use of force" is not a declaration of war. |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 8:47:48 AM EDT
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Which means what exactly for us? I don't see ant reason why we should care about Assad. He not running his country anymore anyway. He been at war for what three years now? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Man.. so much derp in the earlier pages of the thread. Syria was notified we were coming and you know what? They do not mind at this time as the reason for the French attack last week and what we are doing now is because the last week or so Isis had been kicking the crap out of Assads troops and making a major push and in doing so has caused a possibly major destabilizing situation in Turkey as they are being flooded with refugees they can not take care of. If we do not blunt them now odds are decent they are going to win and take Assad down. Which means what exactly for us? I don't see ant reason why we should care about Assad. He not running his country anymore anyway. He been at war for what three years now? Agree with you 100% |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 8:48:23 AM EDT
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For a Nobel Peace Prize winner... he sure is starting a lot of wars. He never should have accepted that. The fact that he did really sent some bad Omens for me. |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 8:51:49 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/23/2014 8:57:56 AM EDT
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Which I note no one on this board cared about when Bush didn't bother with it. And no an "authorization of the use of force" is not a declaration of war. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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U.S. Central Command @CENTCOM · 11m The decision to conduct these strikes was made earlier today by CENTCOM commander under authorization granted him by the president.
Remember when declaring war was the purview of Congress? Which I note no one on this board cared about when Bush didn't bother with it. And no an "authorization of the use of force" is not a declaration of war. To which I counter-note that you are extremely incorrect. |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 8:59:38 AM EDT
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Well, we need strikes in Syria to actually have any real impact on ISIS. My only worry is they will try to broaden the strikes later to hit Government forces in an ill advised attempt to aid the FSA (Muslim Brotherhood) Egypt 2.0 Chances are though, we already have a back door agreement with Assad.....for now. Christ almighty send in the B52 and start carpet bombing. And make sure not a dime of our goes to rebuild anything. Then those guys can get bust doing that instaed of whatever the hell else they do. |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 9:00:23 AM EDT
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He never should have accepted that. The fact that he did really sent some bad Omens for me. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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For a Nobel Peace Prize winner... he sure is starting a lot of wars. He never should have accepted that. The fact that he did really sent some bad Omens for me. He had his minions push for it to be given to him. 
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Posted: 9/23/2014 9:00:50 AM EDT
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Which I note no one on this board cared about when Bush didn't bother with it. And no an "authorization of the use of force" is not a declaration of war. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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U.S. Central Command @CENTCOM · 11m The decision to conduct these strikes was made earlier today by CENTCOM commander under authorization granted him by the president.
Remember when declaring war was the purview of Congress? Which I note no one on this board cared about when Bush didn't bother with it. And no an "authorization of the use of force" is not a declaration of war. It most certainly is. The exact verbage is for pendantic morons. the fact is that is in the constitution because they want congress to approve military actions, which Bush did. Over and over again, in fact. You will never see another "declaration of war" because war is "illegal" what the constitution demands is the consultaion and approval of congress for military action. Which the AUMF did. Now, was it too expansive? That is arguable. But to equate that action to Libya or Kosovo, or Bosnia, or Haiti or Syria today, is not only wrong, its ridiculous. |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 9:11:56 AM EDT
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So we're bombing the guys we wanted to support two years ago. That means we're doing CAS for a country that used chemical weapons and violated our redlines, and another country thwt helped kill thosands of our troops.
Strategic social justice like a motherfucker |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 9:18:21 AM EDT
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You would think that if we are going to go and start bombing the shit out of someplace because it is threat to us then we should follow the Constitution and declare war, don't you think?
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Posted: 9/23/2014 9:18:28 AM EDT
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Thanks USA you seem to have vaporized a couple of Dutch ISIS fighters
At least they wont be coming back to suck up welfare ! |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 9:27:28 AM EDT
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You would think that if we are going to go and start bombing the shit out of someplace because it is threat to us then we should follow the Constitution and declare war, don't you think? Like Jefferson did with the Barbary Pirates? |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 9:32:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh shit! Off to google to see if this is legit.  Eta: Israel is claiming it is legit. http://af.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idAFKCN0HI0FJ20140923  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: And now IDF just shot down a Syrian plane in Golan Heights. Please tell me you're joking... Oh shit! Off to google to see if this is legit. Eta: Israel is claiming it is legit. http://af.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idAFKCN0HI0FJ20140923 Li Shit What does baby milk taste like? |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 9:34:41 AM EDT
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So, this is called Operation What? Operation Mid-Terms Its funny because its true! |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 9:34:54 AM EDT
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Which I note no one on this board cared about when Bush didn't bother with it. And no an "authorization of the use of force" is not a declaration of war. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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U.S. Central Command @CENTCOM · 11m The decision to conduct these strikes was made earlier today by CENTCOM commander under authorization granted him by the president.
Remember when declaring war was the purview of Congress? Which I note no one on this board cared about when Bush didn't bother with it. And no an "authorization of the use of force" is not a declaration of war. You're wrong. The Constitution does NOT require congress to issue something specifically called "a declaration of war." It merely says that Congress shall have the power to declare war. They can call that declaration an "authorization of force" or a "we're really mad at you, take this" or whatever the hell they want. President Bush asked them for permission, they gave it. That satisfies the constitutional requirements, whether or not it satisfies you. |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 9:38:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Syria does. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Are we targeting Assad or ISIS? I hope to hell we aren't wasting Tomahawks on ISIS. You only use those on places with Air Defenses. ISIS doesn't have any. Syria does. ISIS has plenty of captured AA. Mostly manpads I would say. How many Stingers did we lose from Libya and Iraq? |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 9:53:37 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/23/2014 9:54:08 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/23/2014 9:58:15 AM EDT
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A Patriot was fired and a plane was hit? Better count our planes... Hate to tell you Mister Stuck in 1991 logic the Patriot today is far more better than it ever has. That and Isreal Knows what a mig looks like i mean Shit it was Fucking Day light. The article says it was a Sukhoi.
Count 'em, boys. But if the article is accurate, this would be the first time a Patriot ever shot down a manned enemy plane. Neat, if true. Pfffft......details. |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 10:00:16 AM EDT
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Fox showed some strike pics....Yea....More rubble in the Land of Rubble.
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Posted: 9/23/2014 10:01:13 AM EDT
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So, this is called Operation What? Operation Mid-Terms Its funny because its true! Yup. But funny may not be quite the right word. |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 10:01:30 AM EDT
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Which I note no one on this board cared about when Bush didn't bother with it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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U.S. Central Command @CENTCOM · 11m The decision to conduct these strikes was made earlier today by CENTCOM commander under authorization granted him by the president.
Remember when declaring war was the purview of Congress? Which I note no one on this board cared about when Bush didn't bother with it. You are 100% full of crap. The US House of Reps and the US Senate voted for the Iraq War Resolution in October 2002. Notice the two words? "IRAQ" and "WAR". Did your hero Obama ever get Congress's approval for war in Syria? Nope. |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 10:01:40 AM EDT
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I wouldn't put it past obama if he ordered the generals and admirals not to talk to the izzies
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Posted: 9/23/2014 10:02:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He never should have accepted that. The fact that he did really sent some bad Omens for me. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: For a Nobel Peace Prize winner... he sure is starting a lot of wars. He never should have accepted that. The fact that he did really sent some bad Omens for me. |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 10:04:42 AM EDT
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How long before we see a Live Leak video of a MOAB being dropped on ISIS?
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Posted: 9/23/2014 10:05:33 AM EDT
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Shocker!!!
Iran is opposing bombing ISIS in Syria. Iran Leader Criticizes U.S. Strikes on ISIS in Syria, Calls Them Illegal The overnight airstrikes in Syria aimed at Islamic extremists conducted by the U.S. are illegal, Iran's leader told NBC News on Tuesday. The fighter jets and bombers who launched at least 14 strikes against ISIS in Syria did so without authorization from the United Nations, Iranian President Hassan Rouhani said Tuesday, and did it without permission from Syria. http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-terror/iran-leader-criticizes-u-s-strikes-isis-syria-calls-them-n209536 
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Posted: 9/23/2014 10:10:45 AM EDT
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#Syria's Muslim Brotherhood says 10 civilians, among them 6 children, killed in #Idlib in the last night airstrikes 
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Posted: 9/23/2014 10:12:26 AM EDT
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#Syria | Rescuing people in Kafer Daryan #Idlib in the wake of last night airstrikes 
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Posted: 9/23/2014 10:12:46 AM EDT
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Sunni arab states are fighting against a sunni insurgent group?
Shia arab state is against fighting against a sunni insurgent group? Am I in la la land? Am I the only one who cares about the rules around here? |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 10:13:10 AM EDT
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Obama is speaking about this now..."I...I...I...me...I"
FBHO |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 10:13:33 AM EDT
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Shocker!!! Iran is opposing bombing ISIS in Syria. Iran Leader Criticizes U.S. Strikes on ISIS in Syria, Calls Them Illegal The term "illegal" has next to zero meaning when dealing with the actions of nations. Illegal according to whom? |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 10:14:46 AM EDT
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#IS fighter taking the wreckage of one of the drones in the wake of the last night airstrikes. pic.twitter.com/yl81d7CK62 
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Posted: 9/23/2014 10:15:10 AM EDT
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Well that was fast. Golf time?
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Posted: 9/23/2014 10:16:12 AM EDT
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Posted: 9/23/2014 10:16:24 AM EDT
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You would think that if we are going to go and start bombing the shit out of someplace because it is threat to us then we should follow the Constitution and declare war, don't you think? Like Jefferson did with the Barbary Pirates? I think history has proven that once someone gets power they disregard any written rules like a Constitution. That even applied to Jefferson that wrote the rules. Another example of the disregard against our founding principles; our revolution was initiated on a rebellion against a tax but once Washington became President he sent Federal troops to put down a tax rebellion. The power to go to war is established in the Constitution as being declared by the representatives of the people. We don't have a king or dictator in the Presidency that can go to war at their will. We have given the president some emergency powers but the intent was not to turn over the war making powers to the President. If ISIS is as a big enough threat to the American people then he should follow the Constitution and ask Congress for a declaration of war before sending bombers thousands of miles from the US. |
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Posted: 9/23/2014 10:17:08 AM EDT
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In this video, you can clearly hear jet aircraft overhead.
#Breaking: Over 30 IS fighters killed during US & allies airstrikes in Deir ez-Zor according an activist
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