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Posted: 11/11/2013 6:08:12 PM EDT
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Sorry for the thread jack but this is what I get after hitting Sign and Submit and putting in my password. Happened on Chrome and Firefox now. Going to try later tonight. <a href="http://s169.photobucket.com/user/DCMoney22/media/ATFError_zps909a29b4.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u240/DCMoney22/ATFError_zps909a29b4.jpg</a> I've tried Chrome, Firefox and IE and I cant get it to submit either. I've paid and I have the conformation for that and it acts like it submits yet it stays in draft status. I sent in a support email. Just happy I'm not the only one... I'm using IE8 without any issues. If you can downgrade your browser, I'd try that. Firefox was a no go. If you have Windows 7 Pro start an Windows XP vm and install IE8 if you need to. You can get IE8 at http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/internet-explorer-8-details.aspx I can't speak to Chrome. |
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Posted: 11/11/2013 8:30:50 PM EDT
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Did they send you the back of the form 1 also? Were any of the boxes checked? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Stamp looks good, signature looks good. This is my first stamp, but as far as I can tell everything looks good to go. I checked Eforms on the ATF website and it also says approved now. Here is the printed pic. http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j234/bionic589/IMG_0065.jpg The printed form is 4 pages total, the fist is in the pic, second is the boxes (all blank) and CLEO (not required), and the last 2 are instructions for filling out. |
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Posted: 11/11/2013 8:37:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The printed form is 4 pages total, the fist is in the pic, second is the boxes (all blank) and CLEO (not required), and the last 2 are instructions for filling out. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Stamp looks good, signature looks good. This is my first stamp, but as far as I can tell everything looks good to go. I checked Eforms on the ATF website and it also says approved now. Here is the printed pic. http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j234/bionic589/IMG_0065.jpg The printed form is 4 pages total, the fist is in the pic, second is the boxes (all blank) and CLEO (not required), and the last 2 are instructions for filling out. And last thing, did you sign "your name, trustee" or just your name? The other thread has me a little worried.
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Posted: 11/11/2013 8:49:21 PM EDT
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So then "Trade name" was filled in with your trust name automatically? And last thing, did you sign "your name, trustee" or just your name? The other thread has me a little worried.
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Stamp looks good, signature looks good. This is my first stamp, but as far as I can tell everything looks good to go. I checked Eforms on the ATF website and it also says approved now. Here is the printed pic. http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j234/bionic589/IMG_0065.jpg The printed form is 4 pages total, the fist is in the pic, second is the boxes (all blank) and CLEO (not required), and the last 2 are instructions for filling out. The other thread has me a little worried.
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Posted: 11/11/2013 8:59:14 PM EDT
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Stamp looks good, signature looks good. This is my first stamp, but as far as I can tell everything looks good to go. I checked Eforms on the ATF website and it also says approved now. Here is the printed pic. http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j234/bionic589/IMG_0065.jpg The printed form is 4 pages total, the fist is in the pic, second is the boxes (all blank) and CLEO (not required), and the last 2 are instructions for filling out. The other thread has me a little worried.
this On mine the trade name was auto populated with my trust name. I also just signed my name as in John Doe. Not John Doe, trustee. |
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Posted: 11/11/2013 9:20:21 PM EDT
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My concern is the barney fife type asking for paperwork for a suppressor or SBR. You whip out your brand new pdf on your smartphone of choice and it's a crap shoot as to whether he believes that or not. Some of the city departments around here would probably just arrest you and tell you to sort it out with the judge. One officer I had a run in with couldn't even ID a glock, you want to trust someone like that with a photo copy ATF form? ETA: All that being said, let's keep quiet until I get my suppressors and SBR's. I don't want to slow this down, the ATF can mail me my physical stamps later. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 11/11/2013 10:06:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: On mine the trade name was auto populated with my trust name. I also just signed my name as in John Doe. Not John Doe, trustee. Same as my pending eform. Thanks.  |
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Posted: 11/11/2013 10:11:57 PM EDT
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Stamp looks good, signature looks good. This is my first stamp, but as far as I can tell everything looks good to go. I checked Eforms on the ATF website and it also says approved now. Here is the printed pic. http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j234/bionic589/IMG_0065.jpg The printed form is 4 pages total, the fist is in the pic, second is the boxes (all blank) and CLEO (not required), and the last 2 are instructions for filling out. The other thread has me a little worried.
this Like I said this is my first Stamp so I am no expert, and would likely not be able to spot troubling abnormalities. Trade name = Bionic589 Trust Block 7 Signature of applicant = "Digitally Signed" Block 8 Name and Title of Authorized Official of Firm or Corporation = My name. What was the info from the other thread that has you worried? |
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Posted: 11/11/2013 10:17:47 PM EDT
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Internet lawyers?? lmfao...you mean Licensed Attorneys who happen to have a blog on the internet? What a joke dude... Those ATF people really get it right all the time, right? Remember the akins accelerator? How'd that turn out? All this nonsense can be fixed if they simply send a physical copy with a stamp. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I could care less if I receive a physical stamp and quite frankly don't care what some internet lawyers have to say on the subject. Until the ATF changes their minds and interprets things differently the E-Form is perfectly legal. The letter of the law doesn't matter with the ATF it is all about how they interpret it. I submitted forms on 8/29 and 8/30 so I hope that mine come in soon and I get my e-mails  Internet lawyers?? lmfao...you mean Licensed Attorneys who happen to have a blog on the internet? What a joke dude... Those ATF people really get it right all the time, right? Remember the akins accelerator? How'd that turn out? All this nonsense can be fixed if they simply send a physical copy with a stamp. You proved my point though. It doesn't matter what any lawyer says is legal. It only matters what the ATF says is legal which for right now is the printed Form 1's. If/when they change their mind I will worry but until then I don't really care what anyone else says. Those lawyers aren't licensed to practice in my state I'm 99.9% so they are "internet lawyers" to me. |
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Posted: 11/11/2013 10:20:21 PM EDT
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Sorry for the thread jack but this is what I get after hitting Sign and Submit and putting in my password. Happened on Chrome and Firefox now. Going to try later tonight. <a href="http://s169.photobucket.com/user/DCMoney22/media/ATFError_zps909a29b4.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u240/DCMoney22/ATFError_zps909a29b4.jpg</a> It's a long shot but I would try stepping the application from beginning to end. It appears from the error that something hasn't been created correctly since it can't convert. Otherwise, that appears to be an error that should stop all users. I'm not a Java/Oracle programmer though as I hate them both
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Posted: 11/11/2013 10:35:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Like I said this is my first Stamp so I am no expert, and would likely not be able to spot troubling abnormalities. Trade name = Bionic589 Trust Block 7 Signature of applicant = "Digitally Signed" Block 8 Name and Title of Authorized Official of Firm or Corporation = My name. What was the info from the other thread that has you worried? For example, the question asking about a deactivated firearm is left unanswered in the e-forms, but yes or no is checked normally. I wonder if it is even necessary to answer that question when mailing in the form 1. |
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Posted: 11/11/2013 10:37:11 PM EDT
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It's a long shot but I would try stepping the application from beginning to end. It appears from the error that something hasn't been created correctly since it can't convert. Otherwise, that appears to be an error that should stop all users. I'm not a Java/Oracle programmer though as I hate them both Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sorry for the thread jack but this is what I get after hitting Sign and Submit and putting in my password. Happened on Chrome and Firefox now. Going to try later tonight. <a href="http://s169.photobucket.com/user/DCMoney22/media/ATFError_zps909a29b4.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u240/DCMoney22/ATFError_zps909a29b4.jpg</a> It's a long shot but I would try stepping the application from beginning to end. It appears from the error that something hasn't been created correctly since it can't convert. Otherwise, that appears to be an error that should stop all users. I'm not a Java/Oracle programmer though as I hate them both Thanks going back over it now! |
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Posted: 11/11/2013 10:40:22 PM EDT
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Fuck you guys, I'm still waiting for my stamp that went pending on 14 February.
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Posted: 11/11/2013 10:40:50 PM EDT
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Basically, approved form 1s are filled out a bit different than the e-forms. For example, the question asking about a deactivated firearm is left unanswered in the e-forms, but yes or no is checked normally. I wonder if it is even necessary to answer that question when mailing in the form 1. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Like I said this is my first Stamp so I am no expert, and would likely not be able to spot troubling abnormalities. Trade name = Bionic589 Trust Block 7 Signature of applicant = "Digitally Signed" Block 8 Name and Title of Authorized Official of Firm or Corporation = My name. What was the info from the other thread that has you worried? For example, the question asking about a deactivated firearm is left unanswered in the e-forms, but yes or no is checked normally. I wonder if it is even necessary to answer that question when mailing in the form 1. The reason that question is not answered on the eform is because you cannot activate a firearm with eforms. You must submit a paper form. |
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Posted: 11/11/2013 10:48:33 PM EDT
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Sorry for the thread jack but this is what I get after hitting Sign and Submit and putting in my password. Happened on Chrome and Firefox now. Going to try later tonight. <a href="http://s169.photobucket.com/user/DCMoney22/media/ATFError_zps909a29b4.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u240/DCMoney22/ATFError_zps909a29b4.jpg</a> I've tried Chrome, Firefox and IE and I cant get it to submit either. I've paid and I have the conformation for that and it acts like it submits yet it stays in draft status. I sent in a support email. Just happy I'm not the only one... The same thing is happening to me in both Chrome and IE operating in IE8 mode. I'm hoping it is just a temporary glitch in the system. |
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Posted: 11/12/2013 8:12:12 AM EDT
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The same thing is happening to me in both Chrome and IE operating in IE8 mode. I'm hoping it is just a temporary glitch in the system. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sorry for the thread jack but this is what I get after hitting Sign and Submit and putting in my password. Happened on Chrome and Firefox now. Going to try later tonight. <a href="http://s169.photobucket.com/user/DCMoney22/media/ATFError_zps909a29b4.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u240/DCMoney22/ATFError_zps909a29b4.jpg</a> I've tried Chrome, Firefox and IE and I cant get it to submit either. I've paid and I have the conformation for that and it acts like it submits yet it stays in draft status. I sent in a support email. Just happy I'm not the only one... The same thing is happening to me in both Chrome and IE operating in IE8 mode. I'm hoping it is just a temporary glitch in the system. Their system must still be down, emailed their help. Hoping to submit several Form 1s this week! |
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Posted: 11/12/2013 8:51:33 AM EDT
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when this was going on last month, I ended up getting firefox to work, where IE wasn't.
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Posted: 11/12/2013 9:09:49 AM EDT
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Please save your work and log out – the eForms system needs some maintenance. Our apologies Received a few minutes ago. |
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Posted: 11/12/2013 10:51:03 AM EDT
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"eForms Outage
Due to daily maintenance, the e-Forms system is temporarily unavailable. We apologize for any inconvenience and thank you in advance for your cooperation and patience. ASSISTANCE: Please direct questions to the OST Customer Support Help Desk at 1-877-875-3723 or [email protected]." They had no problems charging my CC $200 last night though. 
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Posted: 11/12/2013 1:16:33 PM EDT
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"eForms Outage Due to daily maintenance, the e-Forms system is temporarily unavailable. We apologize for any inconvenience and thank you in advance for your cooperation and patience. ASSISTANCE: Please direct questions to the OST Customer Support Help Desk at 1-877-875-3723 or [email protected]." They had no problems charging my CC $200 last night though. Its back up! |
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Posted: 11/12/2013 2:05:49 PM EDT
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So lets say you have mailed a few forms in the month of September.....they are in pending status....
What if you called the NFA, cancelled all of your forms, then resubmitted them as an eFile....possible? |
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Posted: 11/12/2013 2:23:50 PM EDT
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So lets say you have mailed a few forms in the month of September.....they are in pending status.... What if you called the NFA, cancelled all of your forms, then resubmitted them as an eFile....possible? If everyone did this, the eFile system would be just as slow as paper-based. I think you are best leaving things be. |
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Posted: 11/12/2013 5:50:16 PM EDT
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"eForms Outage Due to daily maintenance, the e-Forms system is temporarily unavailable. We apologize for any inconvenience and thank you in advance for your cooperation and patience. ASSISTANCE: Please direct questions to the OST Customer Support Help Desk at 1-877-875-3723 or [email protected]." They had no problems charging my CC $200 last night though. It does randomly go down occasionally. To date, this has been pretty typical. It does usually come back up shortly though. In addition to the random outages, ATF emailed out an eForms bulletin on 11/8 stating the system would be brought down every day at 12pm EST for a restart. |
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Posted: 11/12/2013 6:50:27 PM EDT
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You would be silly to cancel your paper forms the few eforms that have gone through were just a test of the system. Now they will all be added to the paper stack Happy 15 Mo wait with the rest of us.
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Posted: 11/12/2013 7:18:19 PM EDT
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the few eforms that have gone through were just a test of the system. Now they will all be added to the paper stack Happy 15 Mo wait with the rest of us. Hey there mister I like to makeup bullshit statements. Why don't you go back to your hole. |
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Posted: 11/12/2013 7:35:28 PM EDT
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You would be silly to cancel your paper forms the few eforms that have gone through were just a test of the system. Now they will all be added to the paper stack Happy 15 Mo wait with the rest of us. Yeah... That isn't happening. There is no process or such a thing. Reports are saying that an examiner has been assigned to handle eforms. |
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Posted: 11/12/2013 8:22:15 PM EDT
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You would be silly to cancel your paper forms the few eforms that have gone through were just a test of the system. Now they will all be added to the paper stack Happy 15 Mo wait with the rest of us. please provide your source. GD statements are to be made elsewhere. |
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Posted: 11/12/2013 9:35:42 PM EDT
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You would be silly to cancel your paper forms the few eforms that have gone through were just a test of the system. Now they will all be added to the paper stack Happy 15 Mo wait with the rest of us. If that was the Case then we would be getting a Paper form back not an approved PDF file... MAHA |
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Posted: 11/12/2013 10:06:46 PM EDT
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It does randomly go down occasionally. To date, this has been pretty typical. It does usually come back up shortly though. In addition to the random outages, ATF emailed out an eForms bulletin on 11/8 stating the system would be brought down every day at 12pm EST for a restart. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"eForms Outage Due to daily maintenance, the e-Forms system is temporarily unavailable. We apologize for any inconvenience and thank you in advance for your cooperation and patience. ASSISTANCE: Please direct questions to the OST Customer Support Help Desk at 1-877-875-3723 or [email protected]." They had no problems charging my CC $200 last night though. It does randomly go down occasionally. To date, this has been pretty typical. It does usually come back up shortly though. In addition to the random outages, ATF emailed out an eForms bulletin on 11/8 stating the system would be brought down every day at 12pm EST for a restart. Also something to watch for is after hitting sign and submit 2 of my forms went back into the edit queue. I had to go back in and resubmit. |
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Posted: 11/12/2013 10:33:39 PM EDT
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You would be silly to cancel your paper forms the few eforms that have gone through were just a test of the system. Now they will all be added to the paper stack Happy 15 Mo wait with the rest of us. Can you explain how the examiners would know if the next person in the stack was a eform or paper form? I know im fairly new to the NFA game with only one approved stamp, but your statement is what seems silly to me |
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Posted: 11/12/2013 11:06:16 PM EDT
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Can you explain how the examiners would know if the next person in the stack was a eform or paper form? I know im fairly new to the NFA game with only one approved stamp, but your statement is what seems silly to me Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You would be silly to cancel your paper forms the few eforms that have gone through were just a test of the system. Now they will all be added to the paper stack Happy 15 Mo wait with the rest of us. Can you explain how the examiners would know if the next person in the stack was a eform or paper form? I know im fairly new to the NFA game with only one approved stamp, but your statement is what seems silly to me Two seperate piles. It looks like paper forms go into pile A where they go through their normal examiner assignment and 9 month wait. E forms go to pile B where it looks like pickles is handling them only. |
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Posted: 11/12/2013 11:11:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Two seperate piles. It looks like paper forms go into pile A where they go through their normal examiner assignment and 9 month wait. E forms go to pile B where it looks like pickles is handling them only. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: You would be silly to cancel your paper forms the few eforms that have gone through were just a test of the system. Now they will all be added to the paper stack Happy 15 Mo wait with the rest of us. Can you explain how the examiners would know if the next person in the stack was a eform or paper form? I know im fairly new to the NFA game with only one approved stamp, but your statement is what seems silly to me Two seperate piles. It looks like paper forms go into pile A where they go through their normal examiner assignment and 9 month wait. E forms go to pile B where it looks like pickles is handling them only. |
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Posted: 11/12/2013 11:52:22 PM EDT
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Two seperate piles. It looks like paper forms go into pile A where they go through their normal examiner assignment and 9 month wait. E forms go to pile B where it looks like pickles is handling them only. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You would be silly to cancel your paper forms the few eforms that have gone through were just a test of the system. Now they will all be added to the paper stack Happy 15 Mo wait with the rest of us. Can you explain how the examiners would know if the next person in the stack was a eform or paper form? I know im fairly new to the NFA game with only one approved stamp, but your statement is what seems silly to me Two seperate piles. It looks like paper forms go into pile A where they go through their normal examiner assignment and 9 month wait. E forms go to pile B where it looks like pickles is handling them only. Yeah i understand that, i wanted shadycoh to explain his statement that eforms would be getting put into the same pile as paper forms |
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Posted: 11/13/2013 5:20:06 AM EDT
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Dana Pickles is handling the Eforms for every state ? It seems like it. He has approved eforms in VA and TX so far. |
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Posted: 11/13/2013 5:58:22 AM EDT
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I duno maby because there have only been what 4 efiled forms talked about being received and none past those.
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Posted: 11/13/2013 7:16:32 AM EDT
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I duno maby because there have only been what 4 efiled forms talked about being received and none past those. That's because: 1) The first forms were received last Thursday/Friday. 2) Not all NFA owners post here or on NFA Tracker 3) Monday was a holiday. 4) Someone received one yesterday. |
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Posted: 11/13/2013 7:39:27 AM EDT
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Dana Pickles is handling the Eforms for every state ? It seems like it. He has approved eforms in VA and TX so far. just got one in GA that he did |
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Posted: 11/13/2013 8:08:27 AM EDT
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seriously considering creating a trust just to send a couple form 1's via eform. I can get a CLEO sign off at a later date if needed. Up until now, I was just going to go the individual route...
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Posted: 11/13/2013 9:39:03 AM EDT
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This is from the wait time thread at snipershide.
Originally Posted by 1slow01z71 Spoke with Dave at silencershop this morning and he said the atf only approved eforms for a couple weeks to test the system out then were told not to expect anymore fast approvals. Which means the two form ones I filed beginning of October probably wont be approved til later on. Bummer. |
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Posted: 11/13/2013 9:41:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is from the wait time thread at snipershide. Originally Posted by 1slow01z71 Spoke with Dave at silencershop this morning and he said the atf only approved eforms for a couple weeks to test the system out then were told not to expect anymore fast approvals. Which means the two form ones I filed beginning of October probably wont be approved til later on. Bummer. 
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Posted: 11/13/2013 9:44:59 AM EDT
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You must be a troll because you are not posting what people want to read :)
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Posted: 11/13/2013 10:03:35 AM EDT
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You must be a troll because you are not posting what people want to read :) You posted no context for your statement. You just made a claim that no one else had heard of. Now that we have some context of where this info comes from it is more believable. But it's still only 1 person's claim. |
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Posted: 11/13/2013 10:05:19 AM EDT
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This is from the wait time thread at snipershide. Originally Posted by 1slow01z71 Spoke with Dave at silencershop this morning and he said the atf only approved eforms for a couple weeks to test the system out then were told not to expect anymore fast approvals. Which means the two form ones I filed beginning of October probably wont be approved til later on. Bummer. we willknow soon enough if this istrue. if e file forms continue to come back over the next few weeks then stop comming back. |
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Posted: 11/13/2013 10:19:57 AM EDT
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This is from the wait time thread at snipershide. Originally Posted by 1slow01z71 Spoke with Dave at silencershop this morning and he said the atf only approved eforms for a couple weeks to test the system out then were told not to expect anymore fast approvals. Which means the two form ones I filed beginning of October probably wont be approved til later on. Bummer. Time will tell. If i was one of the largest dealers I would say the same thing, why? - to keep folks from flooding me with requests to cancel and re file a form 4. If approvals continue for the next month, I don't see them slowing down. this has caused a lot of butt hurt amongst the NFA folks. |
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Posted: 11/13/2013 10:28:27 AM EDT
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Someone who has received this "PDF Form 1" :
Does it have a verifiable digital signature? Is there any form of non-repudiation enabled? Did you print it double-sided? Is this a requirement stated anywhere? Final question, which makes the answers for the previous three un-needed if true: If you call up the NFA Branch via telephone and provide the serial number, will the verify the item's existence in the NFA registry? |
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Posted: 11/13/2013 11:05:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Time will tell. If i was one of the largest dealers I would say the same thing, why? - to keep folks from flooding me with requests to cancel and re file a form 4. If approvals continue for the next month, I don't see them slowing down. this has caused a lot of butt hurt amongst the NFA folks. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This is from the wait time thread at snipershide. Originally Posted by 1slow01z71 Spoke with Dave at silencershop this morning and he said the atf only approved eforms for a couple weeks to test the system out then were told not to expect anymore fast approvals. Which means the two form ones I filed beginning of October probably wont be approved til later on. Bummer. Time will tell. If i was one of the largest dealers I would say the same thing, why? - to keep folks from flooding me with requests to cancel and re file a form 4. If approvals continue for the next month, I don't see them slowing down. this has caused a lot of butt hurt amongst the NFA folks. |
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Posted: 11/13/2013 11:12:06 AM EDT
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I have no idea what's going on here, but I will say that my experience with Dave at Silencershop has been very matter-of-fact and positive. Those guys do so much business with the NFA branch and talk via phone with the individual examiners on a regular and first-name basis. Other than speaking with an examiner yourself, Dave would be a pretty reliable source of information. I, personally, would not suspect him of any ulterior motive. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This is from the wait time thread at snipershide. Originally Posted by 1slow01z71 Spoke with Dave at silencershop this morning and he said the atf only approved eforms for a couple weeks to test the system out then were told not to expect anymore fast approvals. Which means the two form ones I filed beginning of October probably wont be approved til later on. Bummer. Time will tell. If i was one of the largest dealers I would say the same thing, why? - to keep folks from flooding me with requests to cancel and re file a form 4. If approvals continue for the next month, I don't see them slowing down. this has caused a lot of butt hurt amongst the NFA folks. Fair enough. If he is correct, I still hope the streamlined eform system will provide a quicker turnaround time compared to manual mailed in submissions. If not, then we shall get them earlier. Only time will tell. |
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Posted: 11/13/2013 11:16:50 AM EDT
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we willknow soon enough if this istrue. if e file forms continue to come back over the next few weeks then stop comming back. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This is from the wait time thread at snipershide. Originally Posted by 1slow01z71 Spoke with Dave at silencershop this morning and he said the atf only approved eforms for a couple weeks to test the system out then were told not to expect anymore fast approvals. Which means the two form ones I filed beginning of October probably wont be approved til later on. Bummer. we willknow soon enough if this istrue. if e file forms continue to come back over the next few weeks then stop comming back. Well, that would be a bummer. I spent 2 weeks in the beginning of August figuring out how to register. I knew I should have pestered Gary and Lee to bump me to the top of the list after making them aware of the password requirement and PDF size issues after I discovered them and the solutions
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Posted: 11/13/2013 6:36:49 PM EDT
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I don't see how it would even take more than 3 months for e-filed Form 1's to be approved.
Most of the e-filed transfers are form 3's and dealer-to-dealer form 4's and the other similar forms which don't take near as long as having to process e-filed form 1's. And then, it's not like their is a HUGE stack of e-filed form 1's to be worked on yet. Plus, you have a examiner dedicated to just e-forms. But now everyone is flooding the system because they've heard about this, and becoming their own worst enemy. It's just going to make it take longer. I'm about to send in another individual form. Happy 9 month wait for me.
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Posted: 11/13/2013 6:48:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: we willknow soon enough if this istrue. if e file forms continue to come back over the next few weeks then stop comming back. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This is from the wait time thread at snipershide. Originally Posted by 1slow01z71 Spoke with Dave at silencershop this morning and he said the atf only approved eforms for a couple weeks to test the system out then were told not to expect anymore fast approvals. Which means the two form ones I filed beginning of October probably wont be approved til later on. Bummer. we willknow soon enough if this istrue. if e file forms continue to come back over the next few weeks then stop comming back. I hope I moved up a few spots in the queue because of this.
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