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Link Posted: 6/20/2015 12:09:00 PM EDT
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Not safe imo but not uncomfortable.   It's got a pretty decent tone.
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Nice I have a YHM titanium Phantom QD .30 Cal can waiting on my F4.  Can't wait.
Link Posted: 6/21/2015 1:59:32 AM EDT
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Submitted 3/18 and 19th both approved yesterday by bowers.
Link Posted: 6/21/2015 12:27:39 PM EDT
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Starting to look more like August for my 4/27. Darn.
Link Posted: 6/22/2015 7:22:19 AM EDT
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Logged in this morning and had approvals on two of my four form 1


3/22 SBR approved 6/21 Ted Clutter 91 days
4/09 5.56 Suppressor ?
4/10 7.62 Suppressor approved 6/21 Ted Clutter 73 days
5/30 SBR ?
No email received
Link Posted: 6/22/2015 9:50:51 AM EDT
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Three months today for two SBR Form 1s.

Still standing by.
Link Posted: 6/22/2015 11:46:04 AM EDT
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3/19 - SBR Disapproved 6/22
3/19 - SBR Approved 6/22  
4/3 - SBR Approved 6/22  

Examiner Jason Bowers

Link Posted: 6/22/2015 11:50:43 AM EDT
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SBR Disapproved 6/22
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Me too.  Note, if you SBR a S&W lower make sure to put MP15 as the model, not AR15.
Link Posted: 6/22/2015 12:14:48 PM EDT
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still waiting on my 3/19...gay
Link Posted: 6/22/2015 1:29:19 PM EDT
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Same.
Link Posted: 6/22/2015 3:24:12 PM EDT
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3/18 Form 1 for a can approved 6/22, no email.  Neither of my last 2 forms have had email notifications.
Link Posted: 6/22/2015 3:54:30 PM EDT
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3/18 Form 1 for a can approved 6/22, no email.  Neither of my last 2 forms have had email notifications.
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I have a 3/18 for a can too. Lets hope they clear around the same time.
Link Posted: 6/22/2015 4:53:43 PM EDT
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Waiting on a reply/info for an SBS submitted on 3/5 and "Finalized" on 5/31
I never got an email about it, had to log in to see that something changed on 5/31
Link Posted: 6/22/2015 5:51:33 PM EDT
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Form 1 SBR
Submitted: 3/18
Approved: 6/22
Examiner: Heather Thompsen

This is my fourth e-file approval and the first time I haven't gotten an e-mail once approved. I just happened to check the website this afternoon.
Link Posted: 6/22/2015 6:57:11 PM EDT
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sounds like I'm getting closer to my 3/21 submission.
Link Posted: 6/22/2015 6:59:39 PM EDT
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Sent-3/19
Approved-6/22
No draft mark
No e-mail
First stamp  
Link Posted: 6/22/2015 8:06:17 PM EDT
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You can print off the stamp yourself if it's approved.
Link Posted: 6/22/2015 9:13:16 PM EDT
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Same.
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still waiting on my 3/19...gay


Same.


Same x2
Link Posted: 6/23/2015 12:09:50 AM EDT
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Come on 4/3!
Link Posted: 6/23/2015 12:44:33 AM EDT
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Why?
Link Posted: 6/23/2015 8:32:42 AM EDT
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Why?
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4/3 - SBR Approved 6/22  

Examiner Jason Bowers



Why?


For model I stated "Noveske N4" they just wanted "N4"
Link Posted: 6/23/2015 10:13:04 AM EDT
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OK, so I am waiting on a 3/25 SBR form 1 Trust submission, 2 questions for those who have been around the block on this eform thing before.

Primary question today:
Being in Michigan, when approved the SBR will have to be registered as a pistol  (no question or debate there)
So in preparation, I started filling out my RI-60 (Michigan pistol form) and referenced my submitted Form 1 to get the details, model, serial, etc...

In the process of looking at the form 1, I noticed the section "J" asking whether this firearm is being re-activated, is not checked at all (I thought I recalled checking to the negative during filing, but maybe it was never asked...)

So, now I am thinking I am headed for disapproval and 90+ more days of angst....   Is it nothing?   I don't think the Eform site would let me proceed without selecting an answer.....   Anyone else?   Someone look at your approved form for me?    Shouldn't be freaking out, but now I am worried.   #firstsbrwaitjitters


Lesser concern:
So, seeing that unchecked box, I thought to walk thru my submitted form on the eforms site.   I did not see the question asked in my poking around, but when I clicked out of that form without "saving" since I couldn't/didnt want to make any changes.
* I now have a "draft" folder and another form 1 created (similarly titled to my original one)  My original 3/25 still shows in the "submitted" folder

I am pretty sure I can just delete the draft one, but being as I think I am within a week of approval, I didn't want to mess with it and screw up the submitted one somehow.
Delete? no harm, no foul?

Link Posted: 6/23/2015 10:38:18 AM EDT
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Don't delete your draft folder.  Or your corresponding submitted form will disappear as well.  (Been there, done that)

I'm not looking at a form at the moment, but the unchecked reactivation box shouldn't matter.
Link Posted: 6/23/2015 10:42:32 AM EDT
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How can you register a SBR as a pistol its not a pistol its a rifle ? I am not from Michigan so who knows lol.
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OK, so I am waiting on a 3/25 SBR form 1 Trust submission, 2 questions for those who have been around the block on this eform thing before.

Primary question today:
Being in Michigan, when approved the SBR will have to be registered as a pistol  (no question or debate there)
So in preparation, I started filling out my RI-60 (Michigan pistol form) and referenced my submitted Form 1 to get the details, model, serial, etc...

In the process of looking at the form 1, I noticed the section "J" asking whether this firearm is being re-activated, is not checked at all (I thought I recalled checking to the negative during filing, but maybe it was never asked...)

So, now I am thinking I am headed for disapproval and 90+ more days of angst....   Is it nothing?   I don't think the Eform site would let me proceed without selecting an answer.....   Anyone else?   Someone look at your approved form for me?    Shouldn't be freaking out, but now I am worried.   #firstsbrwaitjitters


Lesser concern:
So, seeing that unchecked box, I thought to walk thru my submitted form on the eforms site.   I did not see the question asked in my poking around, but when I clicked out of that form without "saving" since I couldn't/didnt want to make any changes.
* I now have a "draft" folder and another form 1 created (similarly titled to my original one)  My original 3/25 still shows in the "submitted" folder

I am pretty sure I can just delete the draft one, but being as I think I am within a week of approval, I didn't want to mess with it and screw up the submitted one somehow.
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Link Posted: 6/23/2015 10:45:00 AM EDT
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Never delete anything. Ever.  Just don't.

ETA: Fingers crossed for a few 3/19's and a batch approval today.
Link Posted: 6/23/2015 12:59:25 PM EDT
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How can you register a SBR as a pistol its not a pistol its a rifle ? I am not from Michigan so who knows lol.
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It's just a Michigan thing.  
We have lots of rifles in Michigan that are registered as pistols,  because our state measures them FOLDED/COLLAPSED if fireable, unlike the rest of the country.  
But, because of that Michigan classification, they fall under all the same rules as pistols (Concealed carry, vehicle, etc...)
Michigan State Police link

"Registration Requirements
SBR or SBS that is 26 inches or less in length must be registered as a pistol in Michigan:
MCL 750.224b(4) was added to require that a person, except a manufacturer, lawfully making, transferring, or possessing a SBS or a SBR that is 26 inches or less in length comply with the registration requirements of MCL 28.422 or 28.422a. A SBS or a SBR that is 26 inches or less in length is considered a pistol as defined by Michigan law and is subject to all Michigan statutes applicable to pistols."


Not deleting anything, thanks.
Link Posted: 6/23/2015 4:56:54 PM EDT
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Just got the approval!

Submitted 3/21 - Form 1 SBR (PS90); Approved 6/23. No draft watermark.


Link Posted: 6/23/2015 5:03:41 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 6/23/2015 7:35:08 PM EDT
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Just got the approval!

Submitted 3/21 - Form 1 SBR (PS90); Approved 6/23. No draft watermark.


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Two 3/19s.  Nothing.
Link Posted: 6/23/2015 8:16:54 PM EDT
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 3 /17  still waiting
Link Posted: 6/23/2015 8:25:45 PM EDT
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Crap just when I thought my 3/20 would be any day now
Link Posted: 6/23/2015 10:22:52 PM EDT
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3/22 is my earliest one. Hoping for some love soon.
Link Posted: 6/24/2015 8:50:06 AM EDT
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4/11....so close...sure would be a great birthday gift today!
Link Posted: 6/24/2015 11:54:20 AM EDT
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I have six pending: two from 3/19, three from 5/14, and one from 5/28. This morning when I got home from work I had emails saying the three from 5/14 and one 5/28 were "returned without action" and then more emails saying that two of the ones from 5/14 and the one from 5/28 were approved. Nothing about the two from 3/19.

Hopefully they all were approved and I just didn't get all the emails. I guess I will just have to wait until I wake up this evening to log in and find out.
Link Posted: 6/24/2015 2:01:15 PM EDT
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I have six pending: two from 3/19, three from 5/14, and one from 5/28. This morning when I got home from work I had emails saying the three from 5/14 and one 5/28 were "returned without action" and then more emails saying that two of the ones from 5/14 and the one from 5/28 were approved. Nothing about the two from 3/19.

Hopefully they all were approved and I just didn't get all the emails. I guess I will just have to wait until I wake up this evening to log in and find out.
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It's almost like they took 3/19 and threw it out.  That's the most complained about date on here.
Link Posted: 6/24/2015 2:04:52 PM EDT
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3/19 = 6/22
3/19 = 6/22
5/3 = 6/22
6/8 = 6/22
6/8 = 6/22
Link Posted: 6/24/2015 2:17:46 PM EDT
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Nice!
Link Posted: 6/24/2015 3:05:22 PM EDT
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That explains it, they were too busy working on all of yours, haha.
Link Posted: 6/24/2015 3:07:01 PM EDT
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My MG went pending on 6 MAR and just got approved on Monday 22 JUN...

Not much longer for some of you mid-March guys!
Link Posted: 6/24/2015 8:07:37 PM EDT
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Happy, happy, happy!!!!!!!!!!!!!  

I logged in and found that five of my six are approved. All signed by Mr. Ted Clutter himself.

One has the dreaded draft water mark. Another was returned without action.



Link Posted: 6/24/2015 8:11:05 PM EDT
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Hey guys I have my first eForm pending still. I don't know if this is the place to ask but I keep seeing people talking about watermarks and returned without action.  What do these terms mean?
Link Posted: 6/24/2015 9:24:33 PM EDT
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Still nothing.  I"m starting to get angry.
Link Posted: 6/24/2015 11:57:36 PM EDT
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Bowers approved mine tonight.

3/19 pap m92
6/15 stoeger double barrel
Link Posted: 6/25/2015 12:34:43 AM EDT
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98 days waiting...
Link Posted: 6/25/2015 12:54:35 AM EDT
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Hey guys I have my first eForm pending still. I don't know if this is the place to ask but I keep seeing people talking about watermarks and returned without action.  What do these terms mean?
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The good ol' ATF has experienced issues sending out working PDF files. It is actually as stamped, the draft copy and they insist it is a software issue. A good copy should show up within a couple of days following and if not. the controller that issued the "mistake" should be contacted so that they can pull their head out and send a good copy.
Link Posted: 6/25/2015 7:50:58 AM EDT
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The good ol' ATF has experienced issues sending out working PDF files. It is actually as stamped, the draft copy and they insist it is a software issue. A good copy should show up within a couple of days following and if not. the controller that issued the "mistake" should be contacted so that they can pull their head out and send a good copy.
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Hey guys I have my first eForm pending still. I don't know if this is the place to ask but I keep seeing people talking about watermarks and returned without action.  What do these terms mean?


The good ol' ATF has experienced issues sending out working PDF files. It is actually as stamped, the draft copy and they insist it is a software issue. A good copy should show up within a couple of days following and if not. the controller that issued the "mistake" should be contacted so that they can pull their head out and send a good copy.


Thank you for this info.

Also I submitted 3/29
Called and the lady said pending 3/29. Don't know if that's accurate.
Hopefully soon
Link Posted: 6/25/2015 9:17:52 AM EDT
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My 3-21 was approved yesterday. No email notification was given and it has the "DRAFT" watermark. As suggested, I sent an email to Mr Ted Clutter last night to see what he could do for me. So I wonder... Will I get a return email or do I need to log in and check periodically? The sight is down at the moment.
Link Posted: 6/25/2015 9:21:30 AM EDT
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What is "returned without action?"
Link Posted: 6/25/2015 10:27:02 AM EDT
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In my case, it means that it is in problem status because I was a dumbass and forgot to include the three letter prefix in the serial number.
Link Posted: 6/25/2015 10:27:38 AM EDT
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99 if you count today, for me.
Link Posted: 6/25/2015 10:50:53 AM EDT
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Why couldn't Bowers have been my approver
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