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Posted: 8/17/2019 6:25:26 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/19/2019 3:54:48 PM EDT
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As a heads up, brownells has the WOA 18” spr rifle 1-7 barrel on sale for $239. With the $20 off 200 it put me at $236 shipped after tax. I’m sure AJ could have been used as well. I bought this as a spare.
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IL, USA
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Posted: 8/20/2019 11:29:32 AM EDT
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So I’m building a sorta mod 1. It’s on a DD upper and Brownells A1 Lower with an A1 stock.
If I get a 3.5-10 Leupold, will I be able to achieve the proper eye relief? I see a lot of Mod 0s have their scopes mounted way forward. Obviously won’t be able to do that with mine. |
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Posted: 8/20/2019 11:32:52 AM EDT
[Last Edit: kmcale]
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hetzen:
So I’m building a sorta mod 1. It’s on a DD upper and Brownells A1 Lower with an A1 stock. If I get a 3.5-10 Leupold, will I be able to achieve the proper eye relief? I see a lot of Mod 0s have their scopes mounted way forward. Obviously won’t be able to do that with mine. Mine just with 22H's, a badger or LMT will get it a little further up yet.  Attached File |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 8/20/2019 11:38:14 AM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kmcale:
Yeah. Get the right mount and you'll be fine. Mine just with 22H, a badger or LMT will get it a little further up yet. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/488238/20190326_154451_jpg-1061049.JPG Is there a more clone correct 3.5-10? As in which version. I’m seeing a lot of them out there. |
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Posted: 8/20/2019 11:41:04 AM EDT
[Last Edit: kmcale]
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hetzen: Good to hear. Is there a more clone correct 3.5-10? As in which version. I’m seeing a lot of them out there. 
@lancecriminal86 can get into specifics with you on part numbers and whatnot. For Mod 1's the 2.5-8's I would say are the "more correct". TS30, TS30A2 |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 8/20/2019 11:50:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kmcale:
My mistake, I meant Larue LT104 not LMT..
@lancecriminal86 can get into specifics with you on part numbers and whatnot. For Mod 1's the 2.5-8's I would say are the "more correct". TS30, TS30A2 I’d like parallax which is why I’m shying away from the 2.5-8. |
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Posted: 8/20/2019 12:01:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hetzen: I meant out of the mk4 3-10s - is there a specific model I should look for? Or are they all close enough? I’d like parallax which is why I’m shying away from the 2.5-8. |
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Posted: 8/20/2019 12:13:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hetzen: I meant out of the mk4 3-10s - is there a specific model I should look for? Or are they all close enough? I’d like parallax which is why I’m shying away from the 2.5-8. But if you're the kind that won't be bothered by minor little details, grab any current 3.5-10 with m2 or m3 turrets and call it a day. It'll be a lot easier. |
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IL, USA
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Posted: 8/20/2019 12:54:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunterex: 3.5-10 on a Mod 1 is rare. I think we've only seen one, maybe two wearing them. Ostensibly they're "stolen" from an earlier SPR. If so, then the correct scope is a Vari-X III Tactical 3.5-10 with two piece illumination housing, m3 turrets, and mil-dot reticle. Any of the blended illumination housing Mk4s with the same features will provide a suitable stand-in. Current illumination housing "slab" style is post Mk12 and too new. There are no currently produced Leupold Mk4 scopes that are 100% clone correct for a Mk12. But if you're the kind that won't be bothered by minor little details, grab any current 3.5-10 with m2 or m3 turrets and call it a day. It'll be a lot easier. What’s a typical price for an illuminated one that I should expect to pay? Prices seem all over the place. |
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Posted: 8/20/2019 1:03:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hetzen: Thanks for the reply. What’s a typical price for an illuminated one that I should expect to pay? Prices seem all over the place. |
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Posted: 8/20/2019 1:06:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kmcale:
Yeah. Get the right mount and you'll be fine. Mine just with 22H's, a badger or LMT will get it a little further up yet. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/488238/20190326_154451_jpg-1061049.JPG |
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Posted: 8/20/2019 1:15:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunterex: Looking good. Still waiting to bring the can home  got a ways to go yet
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ND, USA
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Posted: 8/20/2019 8:57:01 PM EDT
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Hey Guys,
Are most of you painting the rifle with the bipod legs fully extended? TIA |
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Posted: 8/20/2019 10:21:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SlasherMcGee:
Hey Guys, Are most of you painting the rifle with the bipod legs fully extended? TIA |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 8/21/2019 7:39:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell:
I wouldn't. The fit between the bushings and legs are just enough that paint is gonna gum up the works.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/21/2019 12:32:12 PM EDT
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USA
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Posted: 8/21/2019 5:37:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: india13c]
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Can any of the experts help me out on something I'm struggling to figure out? I'm in the process of cloning my MK12 I used, and I was looking back on pictures and cannot for the life of me figure out what this sling mount is that was on my issued set up. (Photo is of me, so there is no issues with permission to use the photo or anything).
Anyone know what this thing is and how I can find one? 
I can't find a clear shot of it in any of my photos but I remember that this is exactly what it looked like (sat flush against the rail and had a set screw of some kind in the middle): 
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Posted: 8/21/2019 5:49:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Shootindave]
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CQD?
https://www.cqd.net/all-products/cqd-forward-sling-mount ETA: Nevermind, that one attaches on top. But close. |
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Posted: 8/21/2019 5:52:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: kmcale]
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Quote HistoryDo they have different variants of it of this mount? Looks like the sling loops in toward the top of the rail
ETA: Saw your edit after I posted..
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Posted: 8/21/2019 7:39:49 PM EDT
[#21]
I'm on it, I'll see if I can dig anything up. Never seen one like that!
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Posted: 8/21/2019 8:24:40 PM EDT
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You bridged the gap?
Didn't know dead men could post
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OH, USA
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Posted: 8/21/2019 9:34:46 PM EDT
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Are ARMS rings the only acceptable option for a mod H? What about the possibility of Nightforce rings? Badgers? Leupold?
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Posted: 8/21/2019 9:37:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hemiman:
Are ARMS rings the only acceptable option for a mod H? What about the possibility of Nightforce rings? Badgers? Leupold? |
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Posted: 8/21/2019 10:11:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RTUtah:
LT-104 is what you seek. Otherwise yeah, NF 107 rings for sure and a Badger Unimount did get used on at least one guys, and there are some around my archives. I'll dig the pics out in a little bit. The Holland was very Run what you Brung, and folks used personal purchase stuff like rings and even optics on them, not to mention stocks and grips. |
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Posted: 8/21/2019 10:24:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lancecriminal86:
LT-104s are floppy, but if the owner of KRG ran one I guess we can't say too much right? Otherwise yeah, NF 107 rings for sure and a Badger Unimount did get used on at least one guys, and there are some around my archives. I'll dig the pics out in a little bit. The Holland was very Run what you Brung, and folks used personal purchase stuff like rings and even optics on them, not to mention stocks and grips. |
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Posted: 8/22/2019 12:15:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hemiman:
Are ARMS rings the only acceptable option for a mod H? What about the possibility of Nightforce rings? Badgers? Leupold? 
Might be an ARMS riser and some Badger rings on the left: 
NF I believe: 
Badger Unimount 
Same gun later with NF 107s: 
More NF rings I believe: 
NF again: 
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Posted: 8/22/2019 8:06:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lancecriminal86: LT-104 https://i.imgur.com/SIcp9uv.jpg Might be an ARMS riser and some Badger rings on the left: https://i.imgur.com/gwzpyy5.jpg NF I believe: https://i.imgur.com/zfScG3G.jpg Badger Unimount https://i.imgur.com/CDU1ZRv.png Same gun later with NF 107s: https://i.imgur.com/4Bur0G5.jpg More NF rings I believe: https://i.imgur.com/LsboWPT.jpg NF again: https://i.imgur.com/0wYV2rh.jpg |
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USA
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Posted: 8/22/2019 10:39:16 AM EDT
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I am not sure how it is/was everywhere, but in the "Group" SF Battalion that I was in, the SPRs were not really "unit" property. They were always loners from the "JOS" warehouse.
They were all tracked as a with three serial numbers listed together as one serial number. Lower / optic / suppressor That doesn't really leave allot of room for the end operator to switch stuff out. Anyways, about every 6 months, we would get new ones mailed to us, and mail the old ones back.... Sometimes it was the PRI model, others the KAC. |
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Posted: 8/22/2019 10:44:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RTUtah:
Shit, a lot of those I hadn't seen before. In that case, I'd go with either NF rings or a Badger Uni.
The real Mod H thread |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 8/22/2019 11:28:40 AM EDT
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I had a link to some photos someone from here put up, Mod 0, Mod 1, Mod H, ynfortunately I lost the link, wasn't on photobucket or flickr, would anyonr have the link, thanks Marty
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Posted: 8/22/2019 1:26:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmyPilot12:
Lots of good info over in the real H thread.
The real Mod H thread 
Nah on a real tip, I probably should've never included the Holland in the Mk12 family. I dunno. Fuck, let's not beat that dead horse again. |
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Posted: 8/22/2019 1:30:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tamboi:
I had a link to some photos someone from here put up, Mod 0, Mod 1, Mod H, ynfortunately I lost the link, wasn't on photobucket or flickr, would anyonr have the link, thanks Marty |
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Posted: 8/22/2019 1:52:31 PM EDT
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MK12 cases back up on eBay.
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WA, USA
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Posted: 8/22/2019 1:56:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Engineer5:
Mk12 Photo Archive Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Engineer5:
Originally Posted By tamboi:
I had a link to some photos someone from here put up, Mod 0, Mod 1, Mod H, ynfortunately I lost the link, wasn't on photobucket or flickr, would anyonr have the link, thanks Marty |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 8/22/2019 1:58:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Engineer5:
Mk12 Photo Archive Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Engineer5:
Originally Posted By tamboi:
I had a link to some photos someone from here put up, Mod 0, Mod 1, Mod H, ynfortunately I lost the link, wasn't on photobucket or flickr, would anyonr have the link, thanks Marty |
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Posted: 8/22/2019 1:58:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 69charger:
MK12 cases back up on eBay.https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/72432/Screenshot_20190822-125213_eBay_jpg-1063406.JPG |
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Posted: 8/22/2019 2:13:38 PM EDT
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So, question for all of you on here, starting up a Mod 0 build, just ordered up a WOA with Ops profile barrel from Brownells since it was in sale.
Only down side to it is, no flats milled onto it. I work at a machine shop so I'm curious to know if anybody knows the measurements for placement, depth and so on so I can get some flats on there for the set screw front sight block |
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ND, USA
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Posted: 8/22/2019 3:45:39 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/22/2019 4:54:22 PM EDT
[#40]
So, SPR cases are finally starting to appear via auctions. Some cut barrel chunks with OPS collar/brake and even wheel FSB showed up. 5th Group started having their Ops cans taken away. Vari-X IIIs, TS30s, and TS30A2s are popping up in auctions.
The end is nigh gentlemen, we're seeing the final days of the SPR/Mk12. Now, out of this we are getting better info as well. Some SPR cases out of 5th Group's 1st BN popped up, with their stickers and serial numbers and everything intact. Some Mk12 Mod 1 cases with the same popped up, from SF not USMC like the past ones. Guess what? There are definitely H&R lower'd Mk12/SPRs out there. SPR cases were showing as having 1999 and 2000 date code Vari-X IIIs (G and H Suffix). There were later versions of the SOF inventory sticker, different emblem and slightly different info on them. There seems to be different versions even of the SPR or Mod 0 foam, but we're waiting for folks to get their actual hands on those cases. And.... We still have no fucking clue who made the bore guides. I have a contract one that probably came from a Mod 1, and yet there are no ties to the serial number by NSN, and I can't even find an LSN for it. |
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Posted: 8/22/2019 5:47:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bmmc]
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WA, USA
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Posted: 8/22/2019 5:57:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lancecriminal86:
So, SPR cases are finally starting to appear via auctions. Some cut barrel chunks with OPS collar/brake and even wheel FSB showed up. 5th Group started having their Ops cans taken away. Vari-X IIIs, TS30s, and TS30A2s are popping up in auctions. The end is nigh gentlemen, we're seeing the final days of the SPR/Mk12. Now, out of this we are getting better info as well. Some SPR cases out of 5th Group's 1st BN popped up, with their stickers and serial numbers and everything intact. Some Mk12 Mod 1 cases with the same popped up, from SF not USMC like the past ones. Guess what? There are definitely H&R lower'd Mk12/SPRs out there. SPR cases were showing as having 1999 and 2000 date code Vari-X IIIs (G and H Suffix). There were later versions of the SOF inventory sticker, different emblem and slightly different info on them. There seems to be different versions even of the SPR or Mod 0 foam, but we're waiting for folks to get their actual hands on those cases. And.... We still have no fucking clue who made the bore guides. I have a contract one that probably came from a Mod 1, and yet there are no ties to the serial number by NSN, and I can't even find an LSN for it. |
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Posted: 8/22/2019 6:11:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: KGLaw]
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tamboi: As always great info, I have an early g serial number illuminated vari-x iii, the early ones actually have a vertical illumination housing, perhaps I can find a pic someday of an early mod 0 with one of these scopes  Attached File Attached FileProbably never issued, but certainly on the early prototype and that example of an otherwise issued rifle. Clone that and you're good to go. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 8/22/2019 7:32:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunterex:
One sec. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/59096/6OHtFYw_jpg-1063686.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/59096/SbVajRV_jpg-1063687.JPG Probably never issued, but certainly on the early prototype and that example of an otherwise issued rifle. Clone that and you're good to go. From LanceCriminal86's excellent gallery https://imgur.com/a/vnZhH? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunterex:
Originally Posted By tamboi: As always great info, I have an early g serial number illuminated vari-x iii, the early ones actually have a vertical illumination housing, perhaps I can find a pic someday of an early mod 0 with one of these scopes https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/59096/6OHtFYw_jpg-1063686.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/59096/SbVajRV_jpg-1063687.JPG Probably never issued, but certainly on the early prototype and that example of an otherwise issued rifle. Clone that and you're good to go. From LanceCriminal86's excellent gallery https://imgur.com/a/vnZhH? |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 8/22/2019 8:40:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lancecriminal86:
So, SPR cases are finally starting to appear via auctions. Some cut barrel chunks with OPS collar/brake and even wheel FSB showed up. 5th Group started having their Ops cans taken away. Vari-X IIIs, TS30s, and TS30A2s are popping up in auctions. The end is nigh gentlemen, we're seeing the final days of the SPR/Mk12. Now, out of this we are getting better info as well. Some SPR cases out of 5th Group's 1st BN popped up, with their stickers and serial numbers and everything intact. Some Mk12 Mod 1 cases with the same popped up, from SF not USMC like the past ones. Guess what? There are definitely H&R lower'd Mk12/SPRs out there. SPR cases were showing as having 1999 and 2000 date code Vari-X IIIs (G and H Suffix). There were later versions of the SOF inventory sticker, different emblem and slightly different info on them. There seems to be different versions even of the SPR or Mod 0 foam, but we're waiting for folks to get their actual hands on those cases. And.... We still have no fucking clue who made the bore guides. I have a contract one that probably came from a Mod 1, and yet there are no ties to the serial number by NSN, and I can't even find an LSN for it.
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Posted: 8/22/2019 11:04:33 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kmcale:
I searched it minutes after you posted. Already sold. |
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DE, USA
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Posted: 8/22/2019 11:19:07 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sbye:
@kmcale they're on there right now. I just ordered one. |
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Posted: 8/22/2019 11:21:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: kmcale]
[#48]
Originally Posted By sbye:
@kmcale they're on there right now. I just ordered one. Originally Posted By THEdtw:
Yep. Search usacowtown. Sounds like they're receiving shipments regularly for the time being so if you miss out, be sure to check every couple days. Eta: now I see.. I think one I looked at yesterday was different 
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Posted: 8/23/2019 9:24:46 AM EDT
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Bought one of the cases after messaging the seller to ask if the foam was surplus or repro and how the cases are marked. He said real foam and most cases are marked spr.
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ND, USA
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Posted: 8/23/2019 5:30:33 PM EDT
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Dang, if I didn't already have a new 1700 I'd snatch one of those up. I wonder if the foam is all cut the same?
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