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Official Mod-H (Holland) Picture and Discussion Thread (Page 1 of 124)
Posted: 10/9/2016 6:14:01 PM EDT
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- Colt AF/Armalite M4 if rebuilt off SPR - Colt Keyhole M4 - Keyhole Forge M4 black or FDE if full upper built by PRI Barrel: - Custom spun Heavy/SPR profile mid-gas from unknown blank - Special Noveske 16" Recon, mid-length gas with custom heavier (~.742") profile in front of gas block for Ops Inc 12th Model, FDE coated (likely Duracoat, could be GunKote or Cerakote) Gas Block: - PRI .750 Black BCG: - Colt's M16 or other M16 contract replacement Handguard: - Precision Reflex 3rd Generation CF FF Handguard, rifle length, FDE [or Black if doing a full black upper but non-Noveske barrel] CH: - PRI Gas Buster M84 with military latch, black [Later pattern, no "welded" latch hotdog] - Badger Ambi CH Muzzle Device: - Ops Inc 12th Model Brake and collar, and 12th Model suppressor Scope Rings: W/PRI Recce Rail: - A.R.M.S. #22 Medium - OPS rings - Nightforce A107 - Badger 30mm Unimount No Recce Rail - LaRue LT-104 - A.R.M.S. #22 High - Nightforce A203 (XX High) Or A110 (X High) Bipod: - Harris BRM-S with PodLoc * A.R.M.S. #32 * KAC RAS bipod adapter * LaRue LT-130 QD bipod adapter - Atlas direct rail mount bipod BT-10 - LaRue LT-706/ Harris BRM-S combo - VersaPods with ARMS #42 mount [claw or rubber feet] BUIS: - Black PRI [rarely if used if at all] - ARMS #40 Standalone rear Lower Rcvr: - Colt's or GM Hydramatic M16A1 (Anniston Depot markings on some) Grip: - A2 - Magpul MIAD - Tango Down - Ergo - Sierra SPR Trigger: - Accuracy Speaks Full Auto Match - KAC Adjustable F/A 2-stage - Geissele SSF Selector: - DPMS Ambidextrous full-auto (old gen, ca 2000-2003 timeframe) - Standard M16 style Buttstock: - ACE SOCOM Carbine or Rifle length - Gens 1-3 - SOPMOD Gen 1 or 2 [black or tan] - Magpul * ACS * PRS * CTR Optics: - Leupold 3-9x36 M3 TS-30A2 Illum Mildot - Mk4 MR/T 2.5-8x36 M2 (with or without TS-30A2markings), Illuminated MilDot OR TMR reticle - Leupold Vari-X III 3.5-10x40 LR, M3 turrets, Illuminated Mil-Dot reticle - FDE Leupold Mk4 3.5-10x40, M2 turrets, Illuminated TMR (ala M110) - S&B Short-Dot - Bushnell SMRS 1-8 - Leupold Vari-X III LR M3 with Premier Reticles Gen 2 MilDot conversion [in LT-104 Mount] Notes: There are 3 rough iterations of the Mod H: 1)First handful were built at SOTIC armory directly by MSG Holland and another gentleman, using COTS parts ordered from Brownells etc. The one we can see closely had a black Colt Keyhole forged upper, black PRI Gen III handguard rifle length, and a black PRI Recce Rail. The barrel was unmarked, with a heavy/SPR profile, mid-gas, and OPS profile, and coated black. Only 2 of this type have been photographed, one of which may have actually had a Noveske barrel. 2)The second, larger grouping of Hollands were rebuilds of original SPRs. These can be distinguished as they all have FDE Gen III handguards, and retained the upper and lowers from the SPRs, often identified in that the upper and lower have matching worn rattlecan paint but the handguard is unpainted. Often the optics, suppressor, etc matched the upper/lower. These had the Noveske FDE barrels. Non rattlecanned ones you can identify by their uppers being Colt AF forgemark or Armalite (haven't seen one, but likely in the mix). 3)The third iteration apparently were assembled by Precision Reflex, with them supplying new parts for the entire upper. These had Keyhole forge contract uppers coated in FDE, FDE Gen III handguards, FDE Noveske barrels, contract M16 BCGs. These likely were supplied with the Recce Rails, maybe with PRI back-up irons as well (though apparently rarely even used). Photos 
 I would like to give a special thanks to 18E3V and Nikiel09 for the information about the "Holland" program that they have given over the years in the MK12 thread. I would also like to thank HaveBlue83 and the other members who helped in creation of this thread |
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Awesome pics above, some I haven't seen in the other. Looking forward to seeing this thread grow.
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finally. in on 1 |
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Originally Posted By GSL:
It ain't a proper pic thread without some sort of drama going on ?
Originally Posted By GSL:
It ain't a proper pic thread without some sort of drama going on ?
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I'm glad to see this thread. I am building a Holland inspired rifle. It won't be an exact clone for logistics sake. It will be using the same Surefire muzzle devices as my M4A1 so I can use the same suppresor, so I won't pollute this thread with pictures of it.
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In on 1?
Awaiting a better full-time host for the SPR/M4 so I can run the AEM5 on this one, and I'll snag myself an extra A1 lower and Leupold 3.5-10 to make this thing proper.  Best therapy there is. by LanceCriminal86, on Flickr
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| Ehhh, debating whether to post info on this. The problem is that it would upset some people who "want to believe". |
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Originally Posted By Stickman: Ehhh, debating whether to post info on this. The problem is that it would upset some people who "want to believe". Out with it. Can't make that post and then not deliver. Quoted for proof. C'mon, Stick. |
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Originally Posted By Stickman: Ehhh, debating whether to post info on this. The problem is that it would upset some people who "want to believe". |
[quote]Originally Posted By Movistar:
Shooting unsuppressed is for the birds and criminals[/quote]
Shooting unsuppressed is for the birds and criminals[/quote]
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Originally Posted By Stickman: Ehhh, debating whether to post info on this. The problem is that it would upset some people who "want to believe". Post away. |
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Mess of parts   Holland clone is close...I can feel it  Still need: Gen I ACE SOCOM  PRI Gas Buster charging handle PRI Gen III Forearm - rifle length - FDE PRI Recce Rail ARMS #22M Non-lever stop rings, or another option ITW Leupold 2.5-8x36 Mark 4 MR/T 30mm riflescope Atlas Bipod Rattlecan treatment |
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Originally Posted By developer: how hot does your pri rail get? on how many rds? I shot maybe 6 mags yesterday on mine and it got noticeably hot (without a glove). I'm thinking my shaved down FSB is still too big and contacting the rail somewhere and heating it up. if i crack off 100rnds the forearm gets warm. i enjoy that. twitchy i love those 3. i really wanna do a 12.5 sbr like the bottom one. i love that look |
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Originally Posted By GSL:
It ain't a proper pic thread without some sort of drama going on ?
Originally Posted By GSL:
It ain't a proper pic thread without some sort of drama going on ?
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Originally Posted By thompsoz:
Let me guess, hollands were made with FN-rejected PSA barrels? Originally Posted By thompsoz:
Originally Posted By Stickman:
Ehhh, debating whether to post info on this. The problem is that it would upset some people who "want to believe". Let me guess, hollands were made with FN-rejected PSA barrels? 
No, but I'll admit that was funny. |
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Originally Posted By chenault:
Since when have you cared about upsetting people, out with it. Originally Posted By chenault:
Originally Posted By Stickman:
Ehhh, debating whether to post info on this. The problem is that it would upset some people who "want to believe". Since when have you cared about upsetting people, out with it. Me? I'm a million times nicer on the internet than I am in person! 
In person I would rather smash people and break their things, on line I'm a sweetheart. 
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Originally Posted By developer:
how hot does your pri rail get? on how many rds? I shot maybe 6 mags yesterday on mine and it got noticeably hot (without a glove). I'm thinking my shaved down FSB is still too big and contacting the rail somewhere and heating it up. Depending on how fast you shot the 6 mags through I would expect any handguard to heat up pretty fast. I use mine for more precision work so I can't give very good knowledge of how fast it heats up, but I would expect with as big as it is that it heats up slower than a lot of others.  </a>" />
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Originally Posted By MS556:
Holland or Recce or neither? What say ye all? Built around a 16" Lilja "Recon" profile barrel in a Spikes upper. WMD Guns NiB-X BCG 12" Daniel Defense MFR free float barrel (not a PRI) Leupold VX-R Patrol 3-9x40mm in Larue LT-104 Leupold DeltaPoint Pro in 45 degree offset ADM QD mount Magpul MBUS Pro folding backups S&W M&P lower with Geissele SSA-E trigger group. Magpul ACS, MIAD furniture. Not shown is Harris 6-9" HBRS bipod in ADM QD mount http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r772/gbloss/91D6E6D7-B4A1-49E3-8CC9-8B8BB4625F47_zpse8s2qkgt.jpg Whatever it is, it shoots. Not even remotely close. |
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Originally Posted By MS556:
Holland or Recce or neither? What say ye all? Built around a 16" Lilja "Recon" profile barrel in a Spikes upper. WMD Guns NiB-X BCG 12" Daniel Defense MFR free float barrel (not a PRI) Leupold VX-R Patrol 3-9x40mm in Larue LT-104 Leupold DeltaPoint Pro in 45 degree offset ADM QD mount Magpul MBUS Pro folding backups S&W M&P lower with Geissele SSA-E trigger group. Magpul ACS, MIAD furniture. Not shown is Harris 6-9" HBRS bipod in ADM QD mount http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r772/gbloss/91D6E6D7-B4A1-49E3-8CC9-8B8BB4625F47_zpse8s2qkgt.jpg Whatever it is, it shoots. Nice rifle, but it isn't a Holland, I'd try the Recce thread |
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Originally Posted By MS556:
Holland or Recce or neither? What say ye all? Built around a 16" Lilja "Recon" profile barrel in a Spikes upper. WMD Guns NiB-X BCG 12" Daniel Defense MFR free float barrel (not a PRI) Leupold VX-R Patrol 3-9x40mm in Larue LT-104 Leupold DeltaPoint Pro in 45 degree offset ADM QD mount Magpul MBUS Pro folding backups S&W M&P lower with Geissele SSA-E trigger group. Magpul ACS, MIAD furniture. Not shown is Harris 6-9" HBRS bipod in ADM QD mount http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r772/gbloss/91D6E6D7-B4A1-49E3-8CC9-8B8BB4625F47_zpse8s2qkgt.jpg Whatever it is, it shoots. I spy with my little eye a mothafuckin troll 
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Originally Posted By MS556: Holland or Recce or neither? What say ye all? Built around a 16" Lilja "Recon" profile barrel in a Spikes upper. WMD Guns NiB-X BCG 12" Daniel Defense MFR free float barrel (not a PRI) Leupold VX-R Patrol 3-9x40mm in Larue LT-104 Leupold DeltaPoint Pro in 45 degree offset ADM QD mount Magpul MBUS Pro folding backups S&W M&P lower with Geissele SSA-E trigger group. Magpul ACS, MIAD furniture. Not shown is Harris 6-9" HBRS bipod in ADM QD mount http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r772/gbloss/91D6E6D7-B4A1-49E3-8CC9-8B8BB4625F47_zpse8s2qkgt.jpg Whatever it is, it shoots. |
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| Already having an SPR as well as an 18" .308, I've always leaned more towards building a Mod H as my Mk12 clone since I do not have a 16" precision rifle anymore. Loving this thread so far. |
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Originally Posted By MS556:
Holland or Recce or neither? What say ye all? Built around a 16" Lilja "Recon" profile barrel in a Spikes upper. WMD Guns NiB-X BCG 12" Daniel Defense MFR free float barrel (not a PRI) Leupold VX-R Patrol 3-9x40mm in Larue LT-104 Leupold DeltaPoint Pro in 45 degree offset ADM QD mount Magpul MBUS Pro folding backups S&W M&P lower with Geissele SSA-E trigger group. Magpul ACS, MIAD furniture. Not shown is Harris 6-9" HBRS bipod in ADM QD mount http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r772/gbloss/91D6E6D7-B4A1-49E3-8CC9-8B8BB4625F47_zpse8s2qkgt.jpg Whatever it is, it shoots. Abomination ! |
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much spermy. many sex. high paint. very wow. that troll post is troll. |
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Originally Posted By GSL:
It ain't a proper pic thread without some sort of drama going on ?
Originally Posted By GSL:
It ain't a proper pic thread without some sort of drama going on ?
Official Mod-H (Holland) Picture and Discussion Thread (Page 1 of 124)
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