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Posted: 12/4/2016 5:35:33 PM EDT
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Since there are a couple of 20" BBLs with collapsible stocks around here: how much does the balance change with a govt profile barrel (everything else being stock)?
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NH, USA
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Posted: 12/4/2016 6:19:48 PM EDT
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just a tad front heavy. not really an issue in my experience with an m16a2 upper
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USA
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Posted: 12/4/2016 7:45:49 PM EDT
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USA
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Posted: 12/4/2016 7:47:33 PM EDT
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C7A2-inspired build. Stag lower, BCM upper:
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Posted: 12/5/2016 2:09:57 PM EDT
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If only I could get an A1 upper, I'd have it done already. Nodak hasn't made anymore, and people want CRAZY cheddah for one.
I have an a1 mag catch, selector, and trigger guard, but haven't gotten around to swapping them out yet. |
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Posted: 12/5/2016 2:43:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Ej6fade]
[#6]
All 80% builds
A1-ish clone, not 100% correct 
A2 clone 
Was originally built as an A4 clone but I hate the quad rails, switched to magpul furniture and the a2 fh to a griffin armament m4sd ii 
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Posted: 12/22/2016 7:03:44 PM EDT
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New WW 20" Govt with its Flecktarn home
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Posted: 1/4/2017 10:01:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By awptickes:
If only I could get an A1 upper, I'd have it done already. Nodak hasn't made anymore, and people want CRAZY cheddah for one. http://i.imgur.com/dVEUMhY.jpg I have an a1 mag catch, selector, and trigger guard, but haven't gotten around to swapping them out yet. Call rguns. This was $150 Put it together tonight  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/4/2017 10:41:10 PM EDT
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I want to play. My free floated "A4gery," including the M951 I had on my real A4 in Afghanistan.
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Posted: 1/5/2017 2:25:48 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/9/2017 7:25:23 PM EDT
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20" Faxon Barrel
DSA LW Upper MI 15" LW Forearm MAG Tactical Lower Vltor A5 Buffer System Minox 1.2-6x Sig Dark Gray/FDE Cerakote. 7.94 pounds as pictured. 
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Posted: 1/9/2017 8:48:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 25Chuck:
20" Faxon Barrel DSA LW Upper MI 15" LW Forearm MAG Tactical Lower Vltor A5 Buffer System Minox 1.2-6x Sig Dark Gray/FDE Cerakote. 7.94 pounds as pictured. Nice build. They balance very well in that configuration. Reminds me of the rifle I built on page 6. Nice work. |
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Posted: 1/10/2017 8:11:00 PM EDT
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I've never been interested in a 20" bbl AR, but been getting the itch lately. Think I may put one together and try it out. Keep the pics coming!
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Posted: 1/10/2017 10:00:50 PM EDT
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Really wanting a TA31RCO-A4 for the A4 build.
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Posted: 1/11/2017 11:37:30 AM EDT
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DE, USA
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Posted: 1/12/2017 11:09:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ianb1116]
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Finally got the TA31 |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 1/13/2017 12:00:49 AM EDT
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PSA 20" upper. Anderson lower. A1 stock, MOE hand guards. Have a fixed 3x for it but want to zero the irons first. |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 1/15/2017 11:27:58 PM EDT
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BCM upper on a Spikes Lower. Wearing a SilencerCo Saker 7.62
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OR, USA
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Posted: 1/28/2017 5:45:01 PM EDT
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Bump:
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Posted: 2/7/2017 6:13:22 PM EDT
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next step in evolution
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Posted: 2/7/2017 10:48:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: EVR]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HD2006:
Really wanting a TA31RCO-A4 for the A4 build. http://i.imgur.com/UwVYsnoh.jpg Neat rifles!!!!! Man, these things need to be shot an posted here: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1950750_.html} ETA: On second thought, the last few post have been awesome. |
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Posted: 2/8/2017 11:26:38 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/8/2017 11:49:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Trimdad: What is that??? Details, please. |
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Posted: 2/8/2017 11:52:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Trimdad: I thought Aenas was the the only one here that had one of those. Very nice. |
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Posted: 2/9/2017 12:25:21 AM EDT
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Superior Arms lower with laser etching on the right side of the mag well: 
Colt buttstock and handguards Kryloned o d green MagPul o d MIAD with a modified spare bolt core Smith Enterprises chrome N/M bolt carrier Windham Weaponry chrome lined 1:7 Govt barrel Geissele High Speed DMR trigger Vortex 3x Splitfire scope Surplus OKC3 bayonet This build started out a few years ago as an SPR type with a Yankee Hill light weight quad rail and used a Colt HBAR barrel. Well I never could get that barrel to group for crap. About 2" was the best I could get despite getting 1.1"-1.0" groups with my Sporter Match HBAR rifle and a scope mounted in the carry handle. So I never shot it. Last spring I decided I needed an AR I could mount my bayonet on, other than my 604 and 603 clones.
Fathers' Day weekend Windham had their 20" Govt barrels on sale so I jumped. Took the Vortex off my 6920, put the Aimpoint on it, and bam! I now have an accurate rifle with a bayonet lug and is my new favorite AR. Everyone who's shot it likes it too. I just wish LaRue made a qd base for this scope. That would truly be the only change I would make. |
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Posted: 2/9/2017 12:37:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Trimdad: Oh now, you're just showing off! And I can't blame you one damned bit! I would too! That's a beautiful rifle! 
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Posted: 2/9/2017 9:41:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bumblebee_Bob:
Oh now, you're just showing off!And I can't blame you one damned bit! I would too! That's a beautiful rifle! Thanks! I try not to over show it..,,,, try. :) |
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Posted: 2/9/2017 9:44:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EVR:
What is that??? Details, please. It's acreproduction of a colt 656 . Which was a expeamental Upper colt designed to get into the sniper came in Vietnam . The lower is basically a standard A1 ... most of the upper had to Be made to match including the front sight base, rear sight, scope mount And upper itself. |
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Posted: 2/9/2017 9:50:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MikeE23666:
I thought Aenas was the the only one here that had one of those. Very nice. Thanks . Arenas 656 would probably number 2 or 3 depending on how you Look at it. But there are technically 4 that I know of... and one Memember who was lucky enough to get a real one from a retired colt exec. The first one was from JM502 ( I don't think that's correct,, but close) Mine started after that... it just took five years on and off to get mine done. Aenas started after me but finished long before, I kept getting sidetracked, lol And number four is being made which belongs to braceman . |
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Posted: 2/9/2017 11:37:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Trimdad:
Thanks . Arenas 656 would probably number 2 or 3 depending on how you Look at it. But there are technically 4 that I know of... and one Memember who was lucky enough to get a real one from a retired colt exec. The first one was from JM502 ( I don't think that's correct,, but close) Mine started after that... it just took five years on and off to get mine done. Aenas started after me but finished long before, I kept getting sidetracked, lol And number four is being made which belongs to braceman . So the upper receiver and the front sight base are real Colt 656 parts? I would imagine having an upper and front sight base like that custom made would cost an arm and a leg. |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 2/9/2017 7:35:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bumblebee_Bob:
Superior Arms lower with laser etching on the right side of the mag well: Colt buttstock and handguards Kryloned o d green MagPul o d MIAD with a modified spare bolt core Smith Enterprises chrome N/M bolt carrier Windham Weaponry chrome lined 1:7 Govt barrel Geissele High Speed DMR trigger Vortex 3x Splitfire scope Surplus OKC3 bayonet This build started out a few years ago as an SPR type with a Yankee Hill light weight quad rail and used a Colt HBAR barrel. Well I never could get that barrel to group for crap. About 2" was the best I could get despite getting 1.1"-1.0" groups with my Sporter Match HBAR rifle and a scope mounted in the carry handle. So I never shot it. Last spring I decided I needed an AR I could mount my bayonet on, other than my 604 and 603 clones.
Fathers' Day weekend Windham had their 20" Govt barrels on sale so I jumped. Took the Vortex off my 6920, put the Aimpoint on it, and bam! I now have an accurate rifle with a bayonet lug and is my new favorite AR. Everyone who's shot it likes it too. I just wish LaRue made a qd base for this scope. That would truly be the only change I would make. |
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Posted: 2/9/2017 8:27:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Annunaki:
American Defense Manufacturing does make a throw lever base for your 3x optic. I have one for mine & works great. Great! Thank you! I'll have to check them out. |
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Posted: 2/10/2017 9:43:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MikeE23666:
So the upper receiver and the front sight base are real Colt 656 parts? I would imagine having an upper and front sight base like that custom made would cost an arm and a leg. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MikeE23666:
Originally Posted By Trimdad:
Thanks . Arenas 656 would probably number 2 or 3 depending on how you Look at it. But there are technically 4 that I know of... and one Memember who was lucky enough to get a real one from a retired colt exec. The first one was from JM502 ( I don't think that's correct,, but close) Mine started after that... it just took five years on and off to get mine done. Aenas started after me but finished long before, I kept getting sidetracked, lol And number four is being made which belongs to braceman . So the upper receiver and the front sight base are real Colt 656 parts? I would imagine having an upper and front sight base like that custom made would cost an arm and a leg. No the upper and front sight base had to be made. Along with the scope mount. 656 parts ..... are extremely rare.... really nonexistent. I've never seen or heard of any for sale. I have heard from a member here with first hand knowledge , that a few uppers left the factory Years ago....I've never seen one pop up. Cost... my set wasn't to bad... but it was way more work than he thought, so I'm sure future Sets will be more expensive. This model was my holy grail clone. So I was doing it no matter what. It took a long time just to get someone to do it.. lol. The problem with this model isn't the parts being made... it's the scope. Finding the correct scope can take a while,, took me a year |
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Posted: 2/10/2017 10:51:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Trimdad:
No the upper and front sight base had to be made. Along with the scope mount. 656 parts ..... are extremely rare.... really nonexistent. I've never seen or heard of any for sale. I have heard from a member here with first hand knowledge , that a few uppers left the factory Years ago....I've never seen one pop up. Cost... my set wasn't to bad... but it was way more work than he thought, so I'm sure future Sets will be more expensive. This model was my holy grail clone. So I was doing it no matter what. It took a long time just to get someone to do it.. lol. The problem with this model isn't the parts being made... it's the scope. Finding the correct scope can take a while,, took me a year What you said about having to have that upper custom made, it made think of something. I've seen tons of pics of Reed Knight's collection and I don't think he has a 656, at least I didn't see one when looking online pics of his collection. I think whatever the cost was to put that together was well worth it, its beautiful. |
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Posted: 2/10/2017 6:19:12 PM EDT
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My 20" SPR |
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Posted: 2/10/2017 7:53:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HotLead:
http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc254/jmdeugarte/20170210_083439_resized_zpsosdwbgvd.jpg My 20" SPR I like that rifle, looks like an experimental SAM-R lol. Very Nice |
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Posted: 2/10/2017 11:02:19 PM EDT
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Yes, very much like the SAM-R2, with minor differences in the scope and mount! I was going for MK12- Mod O.
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Posted: 2/11/2017 10:47:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MikeE23666:
What you said about having to have that upper custom made, it made think of something. I've seen tons of pics of Reed Knight's collection and I don't think he has a 656, at least I didn't see one when looking online pics of his collection. I think whatever the cost was to put that together was well worth it, its beautiful. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MikeE23666:
Originally Posted By Trimdad:
No the upper and front sight base had to be made. Along with the scope mount. 656 parts ..... are extremely rare.... really nonexistent. I've never seen or heard of any for sale. I have heard from a member here with first hand knowledge , that a few uppers left the factory Years ago....I've never seen one pop up. Cost... my set wasn't to bad... but it was way more work than he thought, so I'm sure future Sets will be more expensive. This model was my holy grail clone. So I was doing it no matter what. It took a long time just to get someone to do it.. lol. The problem with this model isn't the parts being made... it's the scope. Finding the correct scope can take a while,, took me a year What you said about having to have that upper custom made, it made think of something. I've seen tons of pics of Reed Knight's collection and I don't think he has a 656, at least I didn't see one when looking online pics of his collection. I think whatever the cost was to put that together was well worth it, its beautiful. Thank you sir. Knight has a few... but from the pics I've got maybe two or three. A few 656 were later modified into competition guns. He has those also. But not many |
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Posted: 2/12/2017 5:58:57 PM EDT
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Figured I post a new pic since I've added a couple more.
 Attached FileFrom left to right Franken build with Faxon barrel CMMG dedicated upper with franken lower PSA CHF upper/ PSA lower PSA Premium upper/PSA lower CMMG |
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Posted: 2/16/2017 1:53:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: eaglecp]
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My New 20" rifle for CMP. I am hoping it will be sporting a NF 4X pretty soon.......
Daniel Defense Complete Upper with WOA 20" NM barrel. 
Couple more of mine 
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Posted: 2/16/2017 3:20:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: LMarkus]
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My CA legal 20" PSA upper. No flash-hider, pinned-stock and grip wrap...silly CA, I know.
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Posted: 2/16/2017 5:45:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eaglecp:
My New 20" rifle for CMP. I am hoping it will be sporting a NF 4X pretty soon....... Daniel Defense Complete Upper with WOA 20" NM barrel. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/eaglecp/20170122_131720_zpscbw0v5rw.jpg Couple more of mine http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v314/eaglecp/IMG_8710_zps52qy86ob.jpg cp Why not just use the ACOG? |
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Posted: 2/16/2017 10:49:08 PM EDT
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Eye relief. Shooting off hand it really sucks. Bites me almost every shot.
But I may end up that way. Cp |
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Posted: 2/16/2017 11:14:11 PM EDT
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TA31? I tried one from the bench and the eye relief was my only complaint. If I were to get one, it'd be the 33 or 11.
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Posted: 2/17/2017 3:03:55 PM EDT
[Last Edit: eaglecp]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HighpowerRifleBrony:
TA31? I tried one from the bench and the eye relief was my only complaint. If I were to get one, it'd be the 33 or 11. Yes that's a TA31F + 1 Agreed for sure. TA11 is nice. The other thing is that I would like the ability to zoom out to 1X for Offhand at 200. My "wobble area" is less distracting at lower magnification. cp |
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Posted: 2/18/2017 8:57:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Trimdad: How successful was the prototype? |
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Posted: 2/18/2017 2:41:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Knownot]
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RRA Varmint A4, US Optics SN-3 3.2-17X44 |
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Posted: 3/4/2017 3:33:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/15/2017 3:49:25 PM EDT
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Pulled the Stealth barrel to be built into another upper with a different rail, bought a used Krieger off the EE and put the Leupold 3-9 Mark AR on it to make is a DMRish rifle.
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Posted: 3/25/2017 10:01:59 PM EDT
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Gov't profile upper with C79 Elcan. Sorta like a C7A1 rifle.
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