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WA, USA
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Posted: 5/17/2015 11:50:17 AM EDT
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I like how people make fun of the ca or NY neutered guns but somehow this lower is better... i would rather have a top of the line upper/lower combo than this any day... rainier arms mod 3 billet etc....
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UT, USA
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Posted: 5/17/2015 11:51:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gadgetguy1288:
I thought of that before but I think in the flipped up position they would still be too tall. It says they can be used on the G36 and 416 which have the same height requirement as the AR. 416 has a higher rail and lower sights than a regular AR HK 
I don't have experience with the SCR but I know Troy and Centurion both make "lower than AR" sights |
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Posted: 5/17/2015 12:06:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By army11b:
I like how people make fun of the ca or NY neutered guns but somehow this lower is better... i would rather have a top of the line upper/lower combo than this any day... rainier arms mod 3 billet etc.... If you can't have a pistol grip then, yes, it is better. I am sure everyone in CA and NY would love to have normal ARs...What's your point? |
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Posted: 5/17/2015 3:33:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By army11b:
I like how people make fun of the ca or NY neutered guns but somehow this lower is better... i would rather have a top of the line upper/lower combo than this any day... rainier arms mod 3 billet etc.... Must be tough to only like one style of gun. I can't eat vanilla ice cream only. |
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DE, USA
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Posted: 5/17/2015 4:35:46 PM EDT
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This would be pretty nice with a side charging upper IMO.
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DC, USA
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Posted: 5/18/2015 10:52:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By di11igaf:
This would be pretty nice with a side charging upper IMO. That seems to be a really common conclusion folks arrive at. 
Ran across a cool pic on Instagram of an SCR with both .223 and .22LR uppers in a discrete carry case: http://www.online-instagram.com/media/981348582177196172_1733875081 
Again kinda gets back to the question as to whether the stock can be made even shorter than the Short Sporter config, and if it's at all possible to potentially make a SU-16C style PG-less folding stock for an SCR. At least the forthcoming trapdoor buttplate would be a useful accessory for a bugout SCR. |
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Posted: 5/18/2015 1:54:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MatthewVanitas:
That seems to be a really common conclusion folks arrive at.
Ran across a cool pic on Instagram of an SCR with both .223 and .22LR uppers in a discrete carry case: http://www.online-instagram.com/media/981348582177196172_1733875081 http://i62.tinypic.com/2s7wcy8.jpg Again kinda gets back to the question as to whether the stock can be made even shorter than the Short Sporter config, and if it's at all possible to potentially make a SU-16C style PG-less folding stock for an SCR. At least the forthcoming trapdoor buttplate would be a useful accessory for a bugout SCR. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MatthewVanitas:
Originally Posted By di11igaf:
This would be pretty nice with a side charging upper IMO. That seems to be a really common conclusion folks arrive at.
Ran across a cool pic on Instagram of an SCR with both .223 and .22LR uppers in a discrete carry case: http://www.online-instagram.com/media/981348582177196172_1733875081 http://i62.tinypic.com/2s7wcy8.jpg Again kinda gets back to the question as to whether the stock can be made even shorter than the Short Sporter config, and if it's at all possible to potentially make a SU-16C style PG-less folding stock for an SCR. At least the forthcoming trapdoor buttplate would be a useful accessory for a bugout SCR. Considering the long 'buffer tube' in the stock, I don't think that would work too well. Although the trapdoor would be useful. |
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DC, USA
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Posted: 5/18/2015 3:48:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NorthPolar:
Considering the long 'buffer tube' in the stock, I don't think that would work too well. Although the trapdoor would be useful. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NorthPolar:
Again kinda gets back to the question as to whether the stock can be made even shorter than the Short Sporter config, and if it's at all possible to potentially make a SU-16C style PG-less folding stock for an SCR. At least the forthcoming trapdoor buttplate would be a useful accessory for a bugout SCR. Considering the long 'buffer tube' in the stock, I don't think that would work too well. Although the trapdoor would be useful. I've been squinting at the diagrams trying to figure that out. I thought part of that big tube in the stock was also the screw-in bolt for securing the stock to the receiver, but looking at it now there's a big spring in it. Which is more mechanism than I expected since the actual rat-tail doesn't protrude that far into the stock. 
GooglePatent has the whole thing here: https://www.google.com/patents/US8397623 So it looks like you could hack a foot or so off the stock, but not enough to make it really collapse back over the receiver. Though, if you could rig up one of the AR-15 uppers which keeps its recoil mechanism in the upper itself, like some of the systems which allow a totally folding stock on the AR, that might work. Though at that point it's just monkeying with things on principle rather than really practical. Or, alternately using an upper which is straight-blowback, like in 5.7mm. |
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Posted: 5/18/2015 4:10:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By army11b:
I like how people make fun of the ca or NY neutered guns but somehow this lower is better... i would rather have a top of the line upper/lower combo than this any day... rainier arms mod 3 billet etc.... Ok, what are you trying to say? |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/19/2015 6:26:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Medicfrost:
Must be tough to only like one style of gun. I can't eat vanilla ice cream only. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Medicfrost:
Originally Posted By army11b:
I like how people make fun of the ca or NY neutered guns but somehow this lower is better... i would rather have a top of the line upper/lower combo than this any day... rainier arms mod 3 billet etc.... Must be tough to only like one style of gun. I can't eat vanilla ice cream only. I can't eat only vanilla ice cream either. Not only that, but I've shot pistol-gripped AR's/M16's/M4's etc. at least weekly since the mid-1980's and I'll bet that you won't find a faster handling, faster pointing pistol-gripped rifle over the 5.7 lb ARES SCR with its traditional stock. But don't take my word for it... BTW, since this is a picture thread here's a pic of the optional iron sights that we just released. 
Here's what they look like installed. 
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WA, USA
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Posted: 5/19/2015 10:37:13 PM EDT
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Has anyone put a norgon ambi mag release, or any other ambi mag release in this lower?
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Posted: 5/20/2015 7:18:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Medicfrost:
Must be tough to only like one style of gun. I can't eat vanilla ice cream only. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Medicfrost:
Originally Posted By army11b:
I like how people make fun of the ca or NY neutered guns but somehow this lower is better... i would rather have a top of the line upper/lower combo than this any day... rainier arms mod 3 billet etc.... Must be tough to only like one style of gun. I can't eat vanilla ice cream only. Seems to me you are missing the point that SCR lowers can accept an assortment of AR uppers. I have the original 16" barrel in a URX-3.1 forend, and another 20" heavy barrel with a rifle length 3.1 for longer range work here on the farm. And in a few months I'll have an 18" medium upper. Eventually each of these uppers will sport an appropriate optic for its specific purpose. And two require an attachable cheek piece that changes the flavor of the lower as well. (see some of my photos above) So that's my vanilla, chocolate, and pistachio at the moment (not counting the toppings). The only real limitation on upper configuration here in NY is the non-threaded muzzle element. Whereas in other states, you could have distinguishing muzzle devices between uppers. |
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DC, USA
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Posted: 5/21/2015 10:30:00 AM EDT
[Last Edit: MatthewVanitas]
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Speaking of other uppers, anyone managed to figure out which dedicated .22LR uppers interface smoothly with the SCR? And anyone tried any blowback pistol-caliber uppers on one?
EDIT: another cool build off the Ares FB page. I'm digging these DMR-style jobbies: 
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Posted: 5/21/2015 10:36:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MatthewVanitas:
Speaking of other uppers, anyone managed to figure out which dedicated .22LR uppers interface smoothly with the SCR? And anyone tried any blowback pistol-caliber uppers on one? EDIT: another cool build off the Ares FB page. I'm digging these DMR-style jobbies: http://i60.tinypic.com/2efj1w7.jpg I would NOT run a blowback pistol cal upper on the SCR. -Not enough mass to the bolt to keep it closed until pressure drops, meaning potential case ruptures and violent cycling. -You would have to chop up and modify a blowback bolt to adapt the rat-tail. |
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Posted: 5/21/2015 4:24:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: coldblue]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MatthewVanitas:
Speaking of other uppers, anyone managed to figure out which dedicated .22LR uppers interface smoothly with the SCR? And anyone tried any blowback pistol-caliber uppers on one? EDIT: another cool build off the Ares FB page. I'm digging these DMR-style jobbies: http://i60.tinypic.com/2efj1w7.jpg Hey! That's my rifle...pistachio flavor as discussed above. |
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Posted: 5/24/2015 11:15:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: gadgetguy1288]
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Has anyone actually tried a set of the Troy Micros? I have seen them mentioned a few times in another thread but no actual first hand accounts of whether they will work or not.
Also, I saw one picture a while back that showed an SCR with the GG&G 870/1100 QD sling plate on it, but couldn't get any other info on what it took to make it work(if anything), and if it interfered with anything. Anybody know whether that would work without any modifications? Anyone here tried sending their trigger to Bill Springfield to see what he can do with it? I've always heard great things about his trigger work, and I emailed him a while back to see if he could do it and he replied that he had already done a few, but was hoping for some firsthand experience before I went ahead and did it. |
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Posted: 5/25/2015 7:17:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: CarpNY]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gadgetguy1288:
Anyone here tried sending their trigger to Bill Springfield to see what he can do with it? I've always heard great things about his trigger work, and I emailed him a while back to see if he could do it and he replied that he had already done a few, but was hoping for some firsthand experience before I went ahead and did it. You should be specific when you ask about the trigger. The original ones (10+ lbs) are pretty terrible and would likely benefit a lot from tuning, but the newer ones are lighter/better (5 lbs) and so might not benefit as much. If you "emailed him a while back", then the ones that he had done were probably the old ones. |
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Posted: 5/25/2015 8:58:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarpNY:
You should be specific when you ask about the trigger. The original ones (10+ lbs) are pretty terrible and would likely benefit a lot from tuning, but the newer ones are lighter/better (5 lbs) and so might not benefit as much. If you "emailed him a while back", then the ones that he had done were probably the old ones. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CarpNY:
Originally Posted By gadgetguy1288:
Anyone here tried sending their trigger to Bill Springfield to see what he can do with it? I've always heard great things about his trigger work, and I emailed him a while back to see if he could do it and he replied that he had already done a few, but was hoping for some firsthand experience before I went ahead and did it. You should be specific when you ask about the trigger. The original ones (10+ lbs) are pretty terrible and would likely benefit a lot from tuning, but the newer ones are lighter/better (5 lbs) and so might not benefit as much. If you "emailed him a while back", then the ones that he had done were probably the old ones. Bill Springfield does not have the best rep on here after several accounts of unsafe trigger function. Stoning through the thin surface hardness on mil spec parts is bad juju. Not worth it when there are decent cheap aftermarket triggers like ALG out there. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/25/2015 9:25:06 AM EDT
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I had a Bill Springfield trigger job turn into a MG in an AR10. Fired on the initial squeeze and again on reset. Needless to say, it was removed and destroyed immediately. Never buying from him again.
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Posted: 5/25/2015 11:25:22 AM EDT
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I'd like to add one to the stable.
Looks like it would make a good varmint rifle. |
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DC, USA
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Posted: 5/26/2015 7:07:18 AM EDT
[Last Edit: MatthewVanitas]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ishoot2live:
I'd like to add one to the stable. Looks like it would make a good varmint rifle. That's one thing I was wondering about, from coldblue and other folks that use these like varmint/target rifles. Does the lack of protruding pistol grip make these more comfortable to use from the bench or from the prone than the standard PG lower? If so, if there were a decent variety of aftermarket triggers and stocks for the SCR, would it be a superior/preferred design for those purposes? EDIT: good up-close pic of the new sights from a retailer. But I'd want to know how much better these are than the CZ Evo option before paying the difference: 
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Posted: 5/27/2015 8:15:45 AM EDT
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"...Does the lack of protruding pistol grip make these more comfortable to use from the bench or from the prone than the standard PG lower? ...?
I don't detect any comfort issues, I guess because such tradition stocks have a degree of muscle memory depending on what rifles or shotguns you have fired in the past. I didn't shoot a rifle with a vertical pistol grip (PG) until I was in the Marine Corps, and that was after boot camp where we used M14's. And during rifle requalification in boot, we fired from standing, sitting, kneeling and prone positions for a week. Also seems to me that traditional rifle stocks tend to position the end of your trigger finger on the trigger where you want it to be, whereas a vertical grip like an M16 allows you to wrap your finger too far into the trigger. I guess you could say I shoot both well enough. I don't notice any major change in body position between the two once you have a good cheek weld, sight alignment, and sight picture. |
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Posted: 5/27/2015 9:38:48 AM EDT
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I am ready for a SCR with wood furniture (stock and hand guard) and a flush fit magazine.
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Posted: 5/27/2015 9:40:47 AM EDT
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No idea if this would work but we were discussing mating a SCR lower with a Cannon for a faux M-79 look.
http://www.ar15.com/mobile/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1684992&page=18 
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Posted: 5/27/2015 9:39:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Miles_Urbanus:
No idea if this would work but we were discussing mating a SCR lower with a Cannon for a faux M-79 look. http://www.ar15.com/mobile/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1684992&page=18 http://i.imgur.com/DT2QLdi.png I like it!! 
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Posted: 5/27/2015 9:44:53 PM EDT
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How many rounds would a flush fit SCR magazine hold? A "normal" flush fit AR-15 magazine is 10 rounds but I can't help but wonder if you could fit a few more in there and the 10 rounds is for ban state compliance.
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Posted: 5/27/2015 9:51:02 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bjohnson425]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Miles_Urbanus:
How many rounds would a flush fit SCR magazine hold? A "normal" flush fit AR-15 magazine is 10 rounds but I can't help but wonder if you could fit a few more in there and the 10 rounds is for ban state compliance. I believe it states the 5 round mag is flush fit since the magwell is much smaller |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/27/2015 10:34:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ares_Defense:
Here's one from a customer in 6.8 with a VLTOR CAS-V handguard. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v14/Medicfrost/hog68.jpg~original oh... hellllooooooooooooooooo |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 5/28/2015 6:55:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bjohnson425:
I believe it states the 5 round mag is flush fit since the magwell is much smaller Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bjohnson425:
Originally Posted By Miles_Urbanus:
How many rounds would a flush fit SCR magazine hold? A "normal" flush fit AR-15 magazine is 10 rounds but I can't help but wonder if you could fit a few more in there and the 10 rounds is for ban state compliance. I believe it states the 5 round mag is flush fit since the magwell is much smaller The 5 round mag it comes with is a 10 round mag with a stacked spring coil at the bottom to fill in space. A true flush fit magazine for the SCR would be like 3 rounds and would need a leaf spring instead of the standard coil spring. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 5/28/2015 7:03:41 PM EDT
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I don't know what they were thinking with that stock. At least get rid of the old school checkering or offer different stock designs without it.
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Posted: 5/28/2015 7:45:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Miles_Urbanus:
No idea if this would work but we were discussing mating a SCR lower with a Cannon for a faux M-79 look. http://www.ar15.com/mobile/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1684992&page=18 http://i.imgur.com/DT2QLdi.png I don't see why it wouldn't. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 5/29/2015 6:09:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MatthewVanitas:
While I understand promptness in getting on the market is important, I did note in the December 2014 review by TFB that the three main criticisms were: a) no BHO, b) no iron sight option, c) 10lb trigger. I'm glad to see that all three of those got tackled in the first year of production. Though my Monday Morning Quarterback still says letting them out the door with the 10lb trigger may have been ill-advised, since it's the single most common complaint I've seen across various forums, with a number of folks calling it a dealbreaker. Sure, it's addressed now, but winning back folks with an initial negative impression is harder than impressing folks in the first place. In any case, the TFB review also had a neat pic I hadn't seen shared on Arf: http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/12/18/gun-review-ares-defense-scr-carbine/ http://i60.tinypic.com/2gwesrp.jpg Leopold 1-5 scope in a cantilever mount.Would that upper be an 18" barrel with a rifle-length gas, or some sort of Dissipator-type? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MatthewVanitas:
Originally Posted By Ares_Defense:
Originally Posted By Rontalvos:
Is there a projected price for either set of sights? Yes, price for the sight set as pictured is $139.95. (Gun and other accessories not included of course) While I understand promptness in getting on the market is important, I did note in the December 2014 review by TFB that the three main criticisms were: a) no BHO, b) no iron sight option, c) 10lb trigger. I'm glad to see that all three of those got tackled in the first year of production. Though my Monday Morning Quarterback still says letting them out the door with the 10lb trigger may have been ill-advised, since it's the single most common complaint I've seen across various forums, with a number of folks calling it a dealbreaker. Sure, it's addressed now, but winning back folks with an initial negative impression is harder than impressing folks in the first place. In any case, the TFB review also had a neat pic I hadn't seen shared on Arf: http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/12/18/gun-review-ares-defense-scr-carbine/ http://i60.tinypic.com/2gwesrp.jpg Leopold 1-5 scope in a cantilever mount.Would that upper be an 18" barrel with a rifle-length gas, or some sort of Dissipator-type? I have a question. If someone was going to use a upper receiver like this what rear sight would you use? Also, has anyone used a suppressor with one? How about a side charger upper? I saw that 3 would work and one that needs a $25 mod to work with the SCR. Also, with the side charger upper, will the bolt hold open work? I have never used one before. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/29/2015 7:39:25 PM EDT
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Damnit Guys. I just figured how I am going to build my DMR. My wallet hates you.
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Posted: 5/29/2015 8:14:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MDStroup:
I have a question. If someone was going to use a upper receiver like this what rear sight would you use? Also, has anyone used a suppressor with one? How about a side charger upper? I saw that 3 would work and one that needs a $25 mod to work with the SCR. Also, with the side charger upper, will the bolt hold open work? I have never used one before. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MDStroup:
Originally Posted By MatthewVanitas:
Originally Posted By Ares_Defense:
Originally Posted By Rontalvos:
Is there a projected price for either set of sights? Yes, price for the sight set as pictured is $139.95. (Gun and other accessories not included of course) While I understand promptness in getting on the market is important, I did note in the December 2014 review by TFB that the three main criticisms were: a) no BHO, b) no iron sight option, c) 10lb trigger. I'm glad to see that all three of those got tackled in the first year of production. Though my Monday Morning Quarterback still says letting them out the door with the 10lb trigger may have been ill-advised, since it's the single most common complaint I've seen across various forums, with a number of folks calling it a dealbreaker. Sure, it's addressed now, but winning back folks with an initial negative impression is harder than impressing folks in the first place. In any case, the TFB review also had a neat pic I hadn't seen shared on Arf: http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/12/18/gun-review-ares-defense-scr-carbine/ http://i60.tinypic.com/2gwesrp.jpg Leopold 1-5 scope in a cantilever mount.Would that upper be an 18" barrel with a rifle-length gas, or some sort of Dissipator-type? I have a question. If someone was going to use a upper receiver like this what rear sight would you use? Also, has anyone used a suppressor with one? How about a side charger upper? I saw that 3 would work and one that needs a $25 mod to work with the SCR. Also, with the side charger upper, will the bolt hold open work? I have never used one before. I've used it with a suppressor. Ran fine. I don't have the bolt catch because it wasn't available from my seller. It's cheesy that it didn't just come with it. 
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VA, USA
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Posted: 5/29/2015 8:22:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Medicfrost:
I've used it with a suppressor. Ran fine. I don't have the bolt catch because it wasn't available from my seller. It's cheesy that it didn't just come with it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Medicfrost:
Originally Posted By MDStroup:
Originally Posted By MatthewVanitas:
Originally Posted By Ares_Defense:
Originally Posted By Rontalvos:
Is there a projected price for either set of sights? Yes, price for the sight set as pictured is $139.95. (Gun and other accessories not included of course) While I understand promptness in getting on the market is important, I did note in the December 2014 review by TFB that the three main criticisms were: a) no BHO, b) no iron sight option, c) 10lb trigger. I'm glad to see that all three of those got tackled in the first year of production. Though my Monday Morning Quarterback still says letting them out the door with the 10lb trigger may have been ill-advised, since it's the single most common complaint I've seen across various forums, with a number of folks calling it a dealbreaker. Sure, it's addressed now, but winning back folks with an initial negative impression is harder than impressing folks in the first place. In any case, the TFB review also had a neat pic I hadn't seen shared on Arf: http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/12/18/gun-review-ares-defense-scr-carbine/ http://i60.tinypic.com/2gwesrp.jpg Leopold 1-5 scope in a cantilever mount.Would that upper be an 18" barrel with a rifle-length gas, or some sort of Dissipator-type? I have a question. If someone was going to use a upper receiver like this what rear sight would you use? Also, has anyone used a suppressor with one? How about a side charger upper? I saw that 3 would work and one that needs a $25 mod to work with the SCR. Also, with the side charger upper, will the bolt hold open work? I have never used one before. I've used it with a suppressor. Ran fine. I don't have the bolt catch because it wasn't available from my seller. It's cheesy that it didn't just come with it. The bolt catch doesn't come with the SCR? Is that standard for all of them? Does it require a special bolt catch then and do they sell it now if it does? |
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Posted: 5/29/2015 8:37:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MDStroup:
The bolt catch doesn't come with the SCR? Is that standard for all of them? Does it require a special bolt catch then and do they sell it now if it does? It's like a $30 unit that just drops in and is held in place by the closed upper. We've mentioned other methods of attachment to Ares, so we'll see what happens. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 5/29/2015 9:05:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NorthPolar:
It's like a $30 unit that just drops in and is held in place by the closed upper. We've mentioned other methods of attachment to Ares, so we'll see what happens. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NorthPolar:
Originally Posted By MDStroup:
The bolt catch doesn't come with the SCR? Is that standard for all of them? Does it require a special bolt catch then and do they sell it now if it does? It's like a $30 unit that just drops in and is held in place by the closed upper. We've mentioned other methods of attachment to Ares, so we'll see what happens. That sucks! Why is it so much? Is it made from gold? Also that doesn't seem very secure. How well does it stay attached? |
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Posted: 5/30/2015 12:53:59 AM EDT
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Can the SCR Lower handle .50 Beowulf or other heavy calibers?
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Posted: 5/30/2015 12:01:14 PM EDT
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They've talked about it on facebook a bit and showed several pictures of customer builds for 450/458/50's, so I would assume yes. I'll bet they kick a bit more than in an AR though since you can't put an H buffer in them
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Posted: 5/30/2015 12:39:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MDStroup:
That sucks! Why is it so much? Is it made from gold? Also that doesn't seem very secure. How well does it stay attached? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MDStroup:
Originally Posted By NorthPolar:
Originally Posted By MDStroup:
The bolt catch doesn't come with the SCR? Is that standard for all of them? Does it require a special bolt catch then and do they sell it now if it does? It's like a $30 unit that just drops in and is held in place by the closed upper. We've mentioned other methods of attachment to Ares, so we'll see what happens. That sucks! Why is it so much? Is it made from gold? Also that doesn't seem very secure. How well does it stay attached? Any proprietary part that is produced in limited numbers is going to be pricey. |
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Posted: 5/30/2015 12:45:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tdp916:
I don't know what they were thinking with that stock. At least get rid of the old school checkering or offer different stock designs without it. As an owner of synthetic and wooden stock s that have and do not have checking or stipling, I prefer to have checking to hold on to when it's wet and things get slippery. If the stock was stipled in a more modern style or appearance, would that make a difference? |
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Posted: 5/30/2015 3:28:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ThinkFear]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MDStroup: That sucks! Why is it so much? Is it made from gold? Also that doesn't seem very secure. How well does it stay attached? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MDStroup: Originally Posted By NorthPolar: Originally Posted By MDStroup: The bolt catch doesn't come with the SCR? Is that standard for all of them? Does it require a special bolt catch then and do they sell it now if it does? It's like a $30 unit that just drops in and is held in place by the closed upper. We've mentioned other methods of attachment to Ares, so we'll see what happens. That sucks! Why is it so much? Is it made from gold? Also that doesn't seem very secure. How well does it stay attached? |
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Posted: 5/30/2015 4:15:29 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ThinkFear:
I get Ares' logic behind making the bolt catch optional, but given that their lowers are hardly a budget option, it's really something that should be included in the box. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ThinkFear:
Originally Posted By MDStroup:
Originally Posted By NorthPolar:
Originally Posted By MDStroup:
The bolt catch doesn't come with the SCR? Is that standard for all of them? Does it require a special bolt catch then and do they sell it now if it does? It's like a $30 unit that just drops in and is held in place by the closed upper. We've mentioned other methods of attachment to Ares, so we'll see what happens. That sucks! Why is it so much? Is it made from gold? Also that doesn't seem very secure. How well does it stay attached? I get Ares' logic behind making the bolt catch optional, but given that their lowers are hardly a budget option, it's really something that should be included in the box. It should absolutely be included. Having to pay extra for it is ridiculous. |
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Posted: 6/1/2015 11:31:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FightingHellfish]
[#44]
I don't know if it has already been suggested, but...
With the current push by PC city governments for "less aggressive" appearance by police, Ares might have a great opportunity to market appropriately set up SCRs as a Law Enforcement Patrol Carbine. Ares LEPC. Guys, you can just send me the first one for free. |
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Posted: 6/1/2015 11:59:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FightingHellfish:
I don't know if it has already been suggested, but... With the current push by PC city governments for "less aggressive" appearance by police, Ares might have a great opportunity to market appropriately set up SCRs as a Law Enforcement Patrol Carbine. Ares LEPC. Guys, you can just send me the first one for free. After they get tested in arctic conditions of course
Seriously though, not a bad idea 
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Posted: 6/2/2015 6:51:30 AM EDT
[#46]
Anybody seen the bolt catch for sale anywhere else besides Ares? I've sent two emails about buying one, in the last week but still haven't heard back and my work hours usually prevent me from being able to call while they are open.
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Posted: 6/2/2015 7:43:14 AM EDT
[#47]
The Camp-Site Sport Shop has them. 631-271-4969
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Posted: 6/2/2015 10:06:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gadgetguy1288:
Anybody seen the bolt catch for sale anywhere else besides Ares? I've sent two emails about buying one, in the last week but still haven't heard back and my work hours usually prevent me from being able to call while they are open. Don't hold your breath on the emails. I emailed them a month ago, and still haven't heard back. The bolt catches are on eBay. |
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Posted: 6/2/2015 10:47:04 AM EDT
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Here's a picture of our law enforcement carbine that's based on this platform called the ARES MPR (Modular Patrol Rifle). -Being tested by some ban-state LE agencies and other LE that are being "demilitarized" by their local governments...
Key features that are different from a stock ARES SCR: Chrome lined 16.25" barrel, 1:9 RHT, Optional 10.5" SBR available Std M4 upper receiver with case deflector and EP cover & sling swivel in place of forward assist Bolt catch Iron Sights Optional Diamondhead VRS hand guard Standard ARES MPR 
SBR version of ARES MPR with 10.5" barrel
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Posted: 6/2/2015 11:10:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ares_Defense:
Here's a picture of our law enforcement carbine that's based on this platform called the ARES MPR (Modular Patrol Rifle). -Being tested by some ban-state LE agencies and other LE that are being "demilitarized" by their local governments... Key features that are different from a stock ARES SCR: Chrome lined 16.25" barrel, 1:9 RHT, Optional 10.5" SBR available Std M4 upper receiver with case deflector and EP cover & sling swivel in place of forward assist Bolt catch Iron Sights Optional Diamondhead VRS hand guard Standard ARES MPR http://i62.tinypic.com/se6aev.jpg SBR version of ARES MPR with 10.5" barrel http://i58.tinypic.com/2clctu.jpg I'm about to have a spare 11" 6.8 barrel laying around.... 
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