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Posted: 10/3/2009 11:54:40 AM EDT
[#1]
No interest here? This is an important race, which has attracted national attention. Owens and Scozzafava have been slamming each other in the tv ads, meanwhile, Doug Hoffman has been receiving endorsments from the NYSP PBA, Fred Thompson, 9.12 affiliated organizations, Citizens United, Concerned Women for America, the Susan B. Anthony List Candidate Fund and the American Conservative Union and Club for Growth.
Even without a lot of ad power, the latest poll shows Doug Hoffman with 16% of the vote. Let's get the word out in Oswego, Madison, Jefferson counties, etc, and double OR TRIPLE those numbers! Doug Hoffman is THE ONLY conservative choice. But don't take my word for it, GO MEET HIM YOURSELF. He will be making stops around the district next weekend. One of these stops is in Fulton, NY, at the Elks Lodge, between 10am and 2pm. Come meet Doug, and enjoy a Hoffman hotdog.  Who knows, some volunteer might even whip up a batch of venison chili. "Chill out Congress!" 
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Posted: 10/3/2009 6:47:01 PM EDT
[#2]
Different Circus, same clowns.
In spite of Dede's Republican affiliation, she's a RINO and I already SWORE that I WOULD NOT vote for anyone currently holding Office. Democrats can go fuck themselves, they've already fucked everybody else. 
I don't know anything specific about Hoffman other than he doesn't live in the District and has had minimal media exposure. McHugh did a fine job as Congressman, however it would appear that he sold out on "Cap & Trade" for the Secretary of the Army position, which is a semi-moot point since there were already enough vote to secure passage in the House of dumb-asses. |
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Posted: 10/4/2009 4:12:04 AM EDT
[#3]
doughoffmanforcongress.com
I've heard that claim about his residency, but I do not know the facts. Come to Fulton and ask Doug in person! 
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Posted: 10/8/2009 3:52:43 AM EDT
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Looks like SOMEBODY thinks this race is important. He runs to Denmark for the Olympics, ignores the War in Afghanistan, but then takes time to attend a fundraiser in NYC to support Bill Owens in the North Country.
Can anyone guess who I am referring to? 
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Posted: 10/8/2009 3:58:27 AM EDT
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Different Circus, same clowns.
In spite of Dede's Republican affiliation, she's a RINO and I already SWORE that I WOULD NOT vote for anyone currently holding Office. Democrats can go fuck themselves, they've already fucked everybody else.
I don't know anything specific about Hoffman other than he doesn't live in the District and has had minimal media exposure. McHugh did a fine job as Congressman, however it would appear that he sold out on "Cap & Trade" for the Secretary of the Army position, which is a semi-moot point since there were already enough vote to secure passage in the House of dumb-asses. Try Cap & Trade as well as both bail out bills––hell, I'm sure the bastard would be tripping over dems to vote for the public option if he could. McHugh is a whore, and the single reason why I don't consider myself a Republican anymore. Dede is the same whore cut from the same cloth. Fuck him and fuck her. |
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Posted: 10/21/2009 7:50:46 PM EDT
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Well, things certainly have developed rapidly. Doug Hoffman's exposure has exploded locally, and nationally. He's received numerous endorsements from lots of great conservative groups and individuals. Even The Syracuse centered "Jim Reith Show", which is mostly liberal, has spoken to Doug and said some pretty nice things about him. Glenn Beck had Doug on a phone interview this morning for the radio show, and will have him on the TV show tomorrow night.
Dick Armey came up to endorse Doug Hoffman, which they will have a public event tomorrow morning in Watertown. This evening, Congressman Armey came to the CNY912 organizational meeting, because he wanted to meet us. Well, the press showed up well before Armey did, so we had to table our internal business to a later time. I hope the Post Standard sticks with the facts and keeps the article fair. We shall see. |
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Posted: 10/22/2009 3:19:11 AM EDT
[#7]
Dede is toast. Go with Hoffman.
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Posted: 10/22/2009 8:55:55 PM EDT
[#8]
Palin just endorsed Hoffman, Rock On .
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Posted: 10/22/2009 9:22:46 PM EDT
[#9]
Imagine.
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Posted: 10/23/2009 4:43:06 AM EDT
[#10]
hoffman all the way
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Posted: 10/23/2009 6:04:58 AM EDT
[#11]
Thanks, guys. I don't know where you guys live in the district, if any do, but there is an office in Canastota (Madison County), as well as field offices in the north country. We are trying to open up a sign distribution center in the village of Central Square, as well as an Oswego County field office in Fulton.
Sarah Palin's endorsement is awesome.  
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Posted: 10/23/2009 6:40:59 AM EDT
[#12]
I heard a Hoffman ad on a Syracuse station just yesterday. Comes right out and says he is pro-gun, as well as his other conservative beliefs.
Its a no-brainer if you are a conservative in that district. Sadly, most republicans can't seem to get past pulling the R switch. |
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Posted: 10/23/2009 6:53:46 AM EDT
[#13]
Hoffman says he's an NRA member.
NRA should not have gotten involved in this race. They are going to lose. |
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Posted: 10/23/2009 10:49:09 AM EDT
[#14]
Heard today Rick Santorum is now supporting Hoffman.
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Posted: 10/23/2009 12:06:42 PM EDT
[#15]
Steve Forbes Also endorsed Doug Hoffman. Doug, being a certified public accountant, and small business owner, gets the endorsement from a successful economic guru. Maybe they have something in common, as far as knowing how to manage money. JUST WHAT CONGRESS NEEDS!!!
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Posted: 10/23/2009 1:06:50 PM EDT
[#16]
I need a Web Site to send money !!
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Posted: 10/23/2009 1:10:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/23/2009 1:44:59 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/23/2009 5:45:45 PM EDT
[#19]
Done. Again, there is NO ONE in Office that I will vote for, period! |
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Posted: 10/25/2009 9:54:58 AM EDT
[#20]
Voting for hoffman is voting for owens. Watch Jefferson and Lewis hand over another victory to the Dems. They handed the state senate over to them already.
Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile 10-15 Hoffman polled out at about 70% not knowing who he was http://www.siena.edu/uploadedfiles/home/Parents_and_Community/Community_Page/SRI/SNY_Poll/23rd%20CD%20SNY%20Poll%20Release%202%20––%20Final.pdf Does he have any other line besides Conservative? Did Scozzfava get Independence? Conservative party has never taken a House seat on their own. Enrollment numbers for 23rd: Democrats, 120,887. Republicans, 167,272. Indepednence Party, 19,619. Conservatives, 5,561. WFP, 1,482. Blanks, 76,194. |
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Posted: 10/25/2009 11:16:49 AM EDT
[#21]
Yeah, voting for liberal rinos has done us a world of good.
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Posted: 10/25/2009 11:43:07 AM EDT
[#22]
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Voting for hoffman is voting for owens. Watch Jefferson and Lewis hand over another victory to the Dems. They handed the state senate over to them already. ME: NO. A vote for owens is a vote for owens; a vote for Hoffman is a vote for Hoffman. I'm done believing you must strategize and "hold your nose at the election booth. Principles over party! [/span]10-15 Hoffman polled out at about 70% not knowing who he was[span style='font-style: italic;'] http://www.siena.edu/uploadedfiles/home/Parents_and_Community/Community_Page/SRI/SNY_Poll/23rd%20CD%20SNY%20Poll%20Release%202%20––%20Final.pdf [/span] Does he have any other line besides Conservative?[span style='font-style: italic;'] [/span]Did Scozzfava get Independence?[span style='font-style: italic;'] [/span]Conservative party has never taken a House seat on their own[span style='font-style: italic;']. ME: And I've never been an activist before. I've never marched in Washington before this year either. The move to the political left in this country HAS awoken the sleeping giant. Fisrt time for everything, don'tcha know...
[/span] Enrollment numbers for 23rd: Democrats, 120,887. Republicans, 167,272. Indepednence Party, 19,619. Conservatives, 5,561. WFP, 1,482. Blanks, 76,194. |
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Posted: 10/25/2009 11:52:15 AM EDT
[#23]
I can't wait for this election to be over so the fuck-tards will leave my phone number alone!
Worst part is they are recorded messages and if anything at all you can push a key to answer questions except the one I want: "To remove your phone number...."
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Posted: 10/25/2009 11:54:55 AM EDT
[#24]
Quoted: Yeah, voting for liberal rinos has done us a world of good. Kept the State Senate under Republican control. |
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Posted: 10/25/2009 12:01:44 PM EDT
[#25]
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Kept the State Senate under Republican control. Get used to them being in the minority. |
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Posted: 10/25/2009 12:04:34 PM EDT
[#26]
Quoted: Quoted: Voting for hoffman is voting for owens. Watch Jefferson and Lewis hand over another victory to the Dems. They handed the state senate over to them already. ME: NO. A vote for owens is a vote for owens; a vote for Hoffman is a vote for Hoffman. I'm done believing you must strategize and "hold your nose at the election booth. Principles over party! [/span]10-15 Hoffman polled out at about 70% not knowing who he was[span style='font-style: italic;'] http://www.siena.edu/uploadedfiles/home/Parents_and_Community/Community_Page/SRI/SNY_Poll/23rd%20CD%20SNY%20Poll%20Release%202%20––%20Final.pdf [/span] Does he have any other line besides Conservative?[span style='font-style: italic;'] [/span]Did Scozzfava get Independence?[span style='font-style: italic;'] [/span]Conservative party has never taken a House seat on their own[span style='font-style: italic;']. [span style='font-weight: bold;']ME: And I've never been an activist before. I've never marched in Washington before this year either. The move to the political left in this country HAS awoken the sleeping giant. Fisrt time for everything, don'tcha know... [/span] [/span] Enrollment numbers for 23rd: Democrats, 120,887. Republicans, 167,272. Indepednence Party, 19,619. Conservatives, 5,561. WFP, 1,482. Blanks, 76,194. Conservative party is a spoiler party when they aren't throwing their weight behind a Democrat or Republican. They split the Republican vote usually and help the Democrats. Sometimes they get in a dark horse candidate but I doubt they can do that for a congressional seat, they have never been able to before (I don't think). With Jefferson and Lewis willing to swing Democrat last time most likely all you will do is split the Republican vote and assure a Democratic victory. You may not WANT things to work that way, but that is how they have worked in the past. It's not impossible that if he grows a good groundswell he could get in, it will probably be a sparsely attended election so it doesn't take many people to move it one way or the other. Most likely you are just helping the Democrats gain another seat in Congress. |
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Posted: 10/25/2009 12:07:48 PM EDT
[#27]
Quoted: Quoted: Kept the State Senate under Republican control. Get used to them being in the minority. You think backing Conservative Party candidates against Republicans is going to improve things?  |
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Posted: 10/25/2009 12:38:25 PM EDT
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Yeah, voting for liberal rinos has done us a world of good. Kept the State Senate under Republican control. yeah, that worked out great keeping a never ending AW ban from being enacted. Oh, wait. |
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Posted: 10/25/2009 12:40:06 PM EDT
[#29]
Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yeah, voting for liberal rinos has done us a world of good. Kept the State Senate under Republican control. yeah, that worked out great keeping a never ending AW ban from being enacted. Oh, wait. Well wait til we have to register all of our ARs with the state police of face a felony conviction, thanks to Aubertine taking that seat. The Republicans kept a lot of that crap at bay for years, and yeah, they did not always do the right thing and yeah, there are plenty of Rinos in the NY Republican party. None of which changes the fact that most likely this guy who only managed to get on the conservative ticket is going to lose and accomplish nothing but helping out the Democrats, which is probably the Conservative Party motto "We can't get elected but we can make sure the Democrats beat you" I don't like the way things are either, I wish ammo still cost what it did in 2002 and that danishes had no calories, but the world is the way it is. |
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Posted: 10/26/2009 9:54:44 AM EDT
[#30]
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You think backing Conservative Party candidates against Republicans is going to improve things?
I'm not involved in that race, NRA is and their endorsement was a bad idea. That race is a stinker they should have stayed out of it. Will it help to back Hoffman? Yes and no. Yes, the GOP needs a good, swift kick in the goolies and Hoffman might deliver it. No, because Mike Long is as rotten as Shelly Silver. |
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Posted: 10/26/2009 10:02:47 AM EDT
[#31]
I think many in the R party have taken the rural parts of NY for granted for years and there's no talking to them. I know several life long (hell add their fathers and grandfathers) Republicans who are considering bailing, some have already switched figuring the R is pretty much on it's last legs in NY. If I had any answers I'd run for office, well probably not actually
Wait til 2010 when the census shows the upstate population loss and the districts get redrawn  |
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Posted: 10/26/2009 10:06:49 AM EDT
[#32]
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Wait til 2010 when the census shows the upstate population loss and the districts get redrawn Plan on NY losing at least 2, probably 3 Congressional seats. |
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Posted: 10/26/2009 11:51:02 AM EDT
[#33]
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Posted: 10/26/2009 12:03:17 PM EDT
[#34]
Quoted: It just got worse for Dede. http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/10/23/scozzafava-declares-herself-part-of-abramoff-wing-of-gop-funnels-campaign-cash-to-family/ Not exactly an impartial source I got robo called by Scozzafava last night and Hoffman about an hour ago.  First peep I have heard out of Hoffman. |
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Posted: 10/26/2009 12:41:13 PM EDT
[#35]
Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Yeah, voting for liberal rinos has done us a world of good. Kept the State Senate under Republican control. yeah, that worked out great keeping a never ending AW ban from being enacted. Oh, wait. I'd like to believe that it was at least partially responsible for destroying Mario PatakiTax's political career in NYS. IMO the current Senate majority leadership is reluctant to act on any of the anti-gun Bills passed by the Assembly in 2009 for fear of the Republicans gaining majority control of the Senate after the 2010 elections. All in all not one onerous anti-gun Bill has been enacted into law since 2000. We have even gained some ground by lowering the minimum age to 14 to fire a pistol at a range in NY. |
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Posted: 10/26/2009 5:27:50 PM EDT
[#36]
Quoted:
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It just got worse for Dede. http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/10/23/scozzafava-declares-herself-part-of-abramoff-wing-of-gop-funnels-campaign-cash-to-family/ Not exactly an impartial source
I got robo called by Scozzafava last night and Hoffman about an hour ago. First peep I have heard out of Hoffman.
Dede hasn't impressed me as a Assembly-person, and damn sure isn't Congressional material. I've called all their campaign headquarters and told them that they'd never get another contribution if they didn't take my phone number off their list: the fucking robot calls are driving us nuts! Sunday we had to turn the phone off.
Dede may be the Republican Party's selection, but I'm not going to vote for her for two reasons: One she's a RINO, two: I'm not supporting ANYONE currently holding ANY elected Office PERIOD. 
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Posted: 10/26/2009 5:53:49 PM EDT
[#37]
Quoted: Oh I had a "WTF are you guys thinking?" conversation about her ages ago, but no one listens to me (here or in the actual real, nonelectronic world-guess I get an I told you so there). Not sure about the "vote the bastards out" stuff, I would normally say that it's a waste of time but I think an unusual number of people are going to do that in NY.Quoted: Quoted: It just got worse for Dede. http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/10/23/scozzafava-declares-herself-part-of-abramoff-wing-of-gop-funnels-campaign-cash-to-family/ Not exactly an impartial source I got robo called by Scozzafava last night and Hoffman about an hour ago. First peep I have heard out of Hoffman.Dede hasn't impressed me as a Assembly-person, and damn sure isn't Congressional material. I've called all their campaign headquarters and told them that they'd never get another contribution if they didn't take my phone number off their list: the fucking robot calls are driving us nuts! Sunday we had to turn the phone off. Dede may be the Republican Party's selection, but I'm not going to vote for her for two reasons: One she's a RINO, two: I'm not supporting ANYONE currently holding ANY elected Office PERIOD. |
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Posted: 10/27/2009 2:37:28 AM EDT
[#38]
I love how Owens' commercials keep harping on the "Bush tax cuts for the rich." Didn't Owens make like 3/4 of a million dollars last year? Friggin liberal lawyers....
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Posted: 10/27/2009 3:02:29 PM EDT
[#39]
I'm seeing tv commercials for Hoffman the last couple of days here in the Albany area.
WHY?
Blocker |
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Posted: 10/27/2009 3:43:15 PM EDT
[#40]
I'm getting robo called like a mf-er by both of them now
Ads on the albany station may be because those stations reach the eastern end of the district or are watched there on cable television. |
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Posted: 10/27/2009 3:57:35 PM EDT
[#41]
One thing I will say: I do not believe there will be very many if any voter shenanigans. Having seen the people an processes in place, it would take a very intelligent and well designed fraud system to change the election. Not to say it cannot or will not, only that I believe it'll be fairly honest. [://
Do you think that "tax lawyers" (re: Owens) do not know how to shelter their money? I don't have a problem with folks doing their damnedest to avoid paying any more than they have to, only the hypocrisy of their cries about taxing the rich or cuts to those who've earned a higher than average income. (that's ironic considering all the politicians that do not/have not/will not pay taxes, and are VERY well off) 
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Posted: 10/27/2009 4:01:13 PM EDT
[#42]
Hoffman is actually leading in the polls. Sarah Palin has come out in support of him too. He was on Hannity yesterday. The Republican party has abandoned conservatives so they should abandon the GOP. He was saying that the Republican candidate is taking votes from him. The Republicans looked around and found the most liberal female they could come up with to run on their party line. The GOP needs to die. Let us conservatives join the party that actually espouses and embraces our values.
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Posted: 10/27/2009 6:00:56 PM EDT
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Quoted: Hoffman is actually leading in the polls. Sarah Palin has come out in support of him too. He was on Hannity yesterday. The Republican party has abandoned conservatives so they should abandon the GOP. He was saying that the Republican candidate is taking votes from him. The Republicans looked around and found the most liberal female they could come up with to run on their party line. The GOP needs to die. Let us conservatives join the party that actually espouses and embraces our values. What poll? The only one I found is "minuteman poll" which is a hoffman front Seinna poll on the 15th had 70% of the electorate saying they didn't know who Hoffman was and had him in last place, course that's an old poll but I didn't find anything besides front polls |
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Posted: 10/27/2009 7:21:50 PM EDT
[#44]
I think it was a Club for Growth poll. As much as I like to receive good news, I think the poll only surveyed about 300 people.
You guys getting the "robo-calls"...Is that an autobot message, or a scripted call from a live human being? |
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Posted: 10/28/2009 3:50:00 AM EDT
[#45]
Quoted: a recorded message 'Hi I'm Jim and Hoffman blah blah" and the same thing from HoffmanI think it was a Club for Growth poll. As much as I like to receive good news, I think the poll only surveyed about 300 people. You guys getting the "robo-calls"...Is that an autobot message, or a scripted call from a live human being? |
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Posted: 10/29/2009 10:58:40 AM EDT
[#46]
No More RINO's!
If conservatives will vote for principal over political expediency, Hoffman can win. I have supported him with some $$ and the NY23 is 1500 miles from me. Vote. 112 from the TX 14th CD |
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Posted: 10/29/2009 12:30:24 PM EDT
[#47]
Thanks, Paddler! Are you a 9.12'er? I know that our local 9.12 group has been in contact with others from all over the country, and so many people sent Doug a check for $9.12, just to let him know to remember his principles and values when he goes to Washington. I thought that was brilliant.
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Posted: 10/30/2009 5:03:18 AM EDT
[#48]
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Thanks, Paddler! Are you a 9.12'er? I know that our local 9.12 group has been in contact with others from all over the country, and so many people sent Doug a check for $9.12, just to let him know to remember his principles and values when he goes to Washington. I thought that was brilliant. Nope, I'm not a 9.12'r that I am aware of. I've been to their site and read Common Sense so maybe I'm qualified. I've also been to some Tea Parties but don't really think of my self as a TP'r either. All my adult life I've felt an obligation to vote at every opportunity. Sort of a Debt of Honor to those who've served and sacrificed so much for me. I have to do what I can to be worthy of that sacrifice and doubt I will ever measure up. I will try. And I'll keep trying. 112 |
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Posted: 10/30/2009 3:24:11 PM EDT
[#49]
Would like to add my voice, to encourage others in my district to vote for Hoffman.
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Posted: 10/30/2009 5:13:14 PM EDT
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We recieved an invitation to a semi-private Dinner/Meet & Greet for Hoffman on Monday....Seem the Democrats want this seat VERY BADLY!
Biden Visit Underlines How Badly National Dems Want NY-23 |
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