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Posted: 11/29/2018 7:16:06 PM EDT

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Awesome!
Now, I see that particularly on your second AR, you too go very classic.
How do you feel about the brace with such classic builds? Didn't you think that the KAK blade was probably - looks wise and looks alone - closer to the general look of such classic AR's?

Adding one of mine - similar to yours indeed (Commando). I do have blades, it's just a pain to go back and switch the pistol buffer with SBA3's buffer all over again.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4807/45193979375_995744a77c_b.jpg
733 Pistol by SoloDallas, on Flickr

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I originally had a shockwave brace on it, and it did look a little bit more original that way. But the SBA3 brace is not only better working but it uses a mill spec buffer tube, closer to the originals. I much prefer the SBA3 brace over the shockwave in every way.

Posted: 11/30/2018 9:02:57 PM EDT

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I have 3 now and will order my 4th when i can get a sale price .

Posted: 11/30/2018 9:10:48 PM EDT

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I originally had a shockwave brace on it, and it did look a little bit more original that way. But the SBA3 brace is not only better working but it uses a mill spec buffer tube, closer to the originals. I much prefer the SBA3 brace over the shockwave in every way.

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Following up on the classics and all, I have done my very best to bring this one (parts whore) to look like BHD Steele's 733

Blackhawk Down 733 by SoloDallas, on Flickr

Steele's BHD Commando-5 by SoloDallas, on Flickr

Posted: 11/30/2018 11:31:18 PM EDT

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My sba3 will be here next Friday. Going on my 300 blk build. I can't wait to play with it. PSA cyber Monday deal

Posted: 12/4/2018 3:54:41 PM EDT

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just bit the bullet and ordered a sba3 build kit. Going to put the new 10.5 upper on it.

Will give me 2 10.5 in 5.56

Posted: 12/4/2018 4:07:34 PM EDT

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Following up on the classics and all, I have done my very best to bring this one (parts whore) to look like BHD Steele's 733

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4836/46072429752_1cec1b4d19_h.jpg
Blackhawk Down 733 by SoloDallas, on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4913/45120972775_3cfe00809c_b.jpg
Steele's BHD Commando-5 by SoloDallas, on Flickr

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I originally had a shockwave brace on it, and it did look a little bit more original that way. But the SBA3 brace is not only better working but it uses a mill spec buffer tube, closer to the originals. I much prefer the SBA3 brace over the shockwave in every way.

Following up on the classics and all, I have done my very best to bring this one (parts whore) to look like BHD Steele's 733

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4836/46072429752_1cec1b4d19_h.jpg
Blackhawk Down 733 by SoloDallas, on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4913/45120972775_3cfe00809c_b.jpg
Steele's BHD Commando-5 by SoloDallas, on Flickr

Shit that looks good!

Posted: 12/4/2018 4:23:57 PM EDT

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Thanks boss; she does now (took me a bit of moving things around until I dressed her up the way I wanted)

BHD 733 Colt Clone by SoloDallas, on Flickr

Posted: 12/4/2018 5:42:14 PM EDT

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Can't say enough good things about the SBA3. Here's my latest build which is now my favorite AR (at least until the next one).

Posted: 12/4/2018 7:05:45 PM EDT

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Can't say enough good things about the SBA3. Here's my latest build which is now my favorite AR (at least until the next one).

https://i.imgur.com/3JbTahz.jpg

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Nice, what barrel length is that?

Posted: 12/5/2018 3:58:59 AM EDT

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The 308 was just finished, apart from replacing the FastFire 3 with an EOtech XPS and picking up a SOCOM 300 SPS

Posted: 12/5/2018 10:09:29 AM EDT

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The 308 was just finished, apart from replacing the FastFire 3 with an EOtech XPS and picking up a SOCOM 300 SPS

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whats the barrel length on the 308?

thanks for the information

Posted: 12/5/2018 10:21:44 AM EDT

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whats the barrel length on the 308?

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Both are 12.5" barrels. On the 308 is a Hughes Precision .7" 5/8 to 5/8 extender to allow the shoulder of the SF brake to live outside the rail.

Posted: 12/5/2018 10:28:06 PM EDT

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Nice, what barrel length is that?

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11.5"

Posted: 12/6/2018 1:48:48 AM EDT

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Will be Formed 1 here soon

Posted: 12/6/2018 1:49:59 AM EDT

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Will be Formed 1 here soon

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We have a winner.
Is it an original upper/lower or a replica?

Posted: 12/6/2018 2:02:54 AM EDT

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Is it an original upper/lower or a replica?

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Thanks. Original HK 416D complete upper.

The lower is from CNC. Has the hk style magwell.

Posted: 12/6/2018 12:57:58 PM EDT

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Thanks. Original HK 416D complete upper.

The lower is from CNC. Has the hk style magwell.

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Stunning. A 416D upper has always been a dream of mine. Won't be able to make it happen, too expensive; but I enjoy immensely seeing it.
Your build is fantastic.

Posted: 12/6/2018 3:03:41 PM EDT

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Stunning. A 416D upper has always been a dream of mine. Won't be able to make it happen, too expensive; but I enjoy immensely seeing it.
Your build is fantastic.

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Thank you sir. Can’t wait to shoot it. Finished at midnight last night.

Keep an eye out on pricing, it seems their prices have come down significantly recently.

Posted: 12/6/2018 5:12:43 PM EDT

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Not a necessity, but just picked up two Split fix straps for the SBA3 and they work great.

Posted: 12/6/2018 10:32:35 PM EDT

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Not a necessity, but just picked up two Split fix straps for the SBA3 and they work great.

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Where was it in stock?

Posted: 12/6/2018 10:50:38 PM EDT

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Not a necessity, but just picked up two Split fix straps for the SBA3 and they work great.

Where was it in stock?

https://wisemencompany.com/sba3-splitfix/

Posted: 12/7/2018 10:31:31 PM EDT

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I picked one up today to complete my pistol build and so far, so good.

Posted: 12/8/2018 2:09:10 PM EDT

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The one I just received has a normal 6 position RE.

I was under the impression that these should have a 5 position tube (what the box says), with the 6th position not machined?

Will this cause a problem with LOP? Sorry if this has been covered.

Posted: 12/8/2018 3:39:56 PM EDT

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The one I just received has a normal 6 position RE.

I was under the impression that these should have a 5 position tube (what the box says), with the 6th position not machined?

Will this cause a problem with LOP? Sorry if this has been covered.

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6 detents (holes) but does not make it to the forward-most one.

Posted: 12/8/2018 4:28:06 PM EDT

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6 detents (holes) but does not make it to the forward-most one.

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Thanks. I misunderstood, and thought it was the fully extended hole that wasn't supposed to work.

Posted: 12/8/2018 5:23:35 PM EDT

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Thanks. I misunderstood, and thought it was the fully extended hole that wasn't supposed to work.

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You're welcome. Thought they might have changed. Went and checked an older one and a recent one. 6 holes / 5 positions. Disassembled and saw what the deal was.

Posted: 12/8/2018 9:13:37 PM EDT

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Thank you sir. Can’t wait to shoot it. Finished at midnight last night.

Keep an eye out on pricing, it seems their prices have come down significantly recently.

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Hey you got the hook ups on 416 parts? Trying to source a couple could you help a brother out?! If an IM would be cool with you?

Posted: 12/12/2018 1:49:39 PM EDT

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Macon Armory 45acp upper, Rebel Flag 80% lower from Sherwood Armory LLC. Rudy is the man when it comes to Pistol Claiber AR Pistols and Rifles.

SBA3 Brace and the SD3G Geissele Trigger

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Posted: 12/12/2018 2:10:09 PM EDT

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Posted: 12/15/2018 6:16:35 PM EDT

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Thanks. I misunderstood, and thought it was the fully extended hole that wasn't supposed to work.

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Just ran across this which explains it: "This only refers to a certain “length” that would make a brace into a stock. The new SBA3 brace is a 5 position adjustable brace. The reason it is only 5 position is due to this specific “length”. By staying at the fifth position, the brace stays under the length that would be deemed a stock. If the ATF is measuring firearms with the brace folded, then what is the whole point of measuring the brace length with regards to making a brace or a stock?"

Full context: https://www-thefirearmblog-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/05/24/oal-brace-folded/amp/?_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQECAFYAQ%3D%3D&_js_v=0.1#aoh=15449047467285&_ct=1544904765479&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thefirearmblog.com%2Fblog%2F2018%2F05%2F24%2Foal-brace-folded%2F

Posted: 12/16/2018 10:54:01 AM EDT

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When looking at this soup sandwich of ATF decisions, whether in writing or verbal, the user needs to determine what, exactly they are trying to do or not do.

OAL comes into play on whether a VFG can be added to a "firearm" (26" or more) or if doing so makes it an AOW (Less than 26").

LOP comes into play to avoid "it's a stock" - and this one is based on a verbal conversation that KAK had with ATF on the phone - stay under 13.5"

OAL is measured with the firearm in it's most compact but still operable form. Unthread the muzzle device, and take the brace off the tube.
A folding adapter should be folded when measuring, since the weapon can still fire (one round in the case of Law Tactical) - think Under-folding AK's or Side-folding FALs.

LOP is measured from Trigger "bow" to end of (in our case) the Brace fully extended.

That's my read anyway - and that's just for Federal...

Edit: Annnnnd I may be being influenced by my state law:
"The stock extended is a departure from how some states require individuals to measure the overall length of the firearm. That said, we are discussing federal law, but be aware of the difference if you happen to reside in one of those states"

So the Feds measure with the SBA3's on the tube, extended? Cool.

Posted: 12/16/2018 7:49:44 PM EDT

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Pulled the trigger on one.

Posted: 12/17/2018 1:36:59 AM EDT

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Love the SBA3. No more SBRs for me.

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Posted: 12/20/2018 8:21:08 PM EDT

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Bought one...

Posted: 12/20/2018 8:30:09 PM EDT

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Bought one... but now I'm wondering, which buffer and spring to go with? I think carbine spring? What's the "standard" weight buffer for these pistol builds? I'm guessing depends on how it's gassed but what's the most common?

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Hard to say. What barrel, to include caliber, gas length, barrel length, brand name? Measured or advertised gas port size would be a plus but can probably be researched. Fixed or adjustable gas block? Generally for a 5.56 pistol (for me), an H / H2 buffer covers it well from 8.5" thru 10.5" (my barrels). Standard carbine spring.

Posted: 12/20/2018 11:01:31 PM EDT

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Hard to say. What barrel, to include caliber, gas length, barrel length, brand name? Measured or advertised gas port size would be a plus but can probably be researched. Fixed or adjustable gas block? Generally for a 5.56 pistol (for me), an H / H2 buffer covers it well from 8.5" thru 10.5" (my barrels). Standard carbine spring.

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Concur. I run H marked buffers in just about everything. On my 10.5 I also run an adjustable carrier because of the suppressor. That upper was way over gassed and the can didn't help any.

Posted: 12/21/2018 2:31:54 PM EDT

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Posted: 12/21/2018 4:59:31 PM EDT

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Just got in one of the new FDE ones.

Ordered an FDE Cerakoted RET to match it as well.

I think I'll build it up on my billet ADM lower with the ambi bolt catch that's already Cerakoted FDE.

Posted: 12/21/2018 5:47:32 PM EDT

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Has anyone tried to dye a FDE brace OD green? I'm thinking about trying it.

Posted: 12/21/2018 6:17:32 PM EDT

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Love the SBA3. No more SBRs for me.

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the tucked flaps on this make it actually appealing. I HATE how long and droopy it is in its natural config. The PDW version isnt and I don't understand why they made the SBA3 so fucking long. That right there in your pic may get me to do a .300BO pistola.

Posted: 12/21/2018 6:18:24 PM EDT

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Current best price/retailer on a sba3? Please @ me when you reply. Thanks!!!

Posted: 12/22/2018 3:02:38 PM EDT

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the tucked flaps on this make it actually appealing. I HATE how long and droopy it is in its natural config. The PDW version isnt and I don't understand why they made the SBA3 so fucking long. That right there in your pic may get me to do a .300BO pistola.

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It's probably so you can do with it what they say you can do, which is to put your arm throught the armhole and use it to shoot one-handed.

Posted: 12/22/2018 3:04:08 PM EDT

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Current best price/retailer on a sba3? Please @ me when you reply. Thanks!!!

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Armorally has them for $100, but shipping is steep. I'm waiting for some place like Brownells @ $100.

Posted: 12/22/2018 9:02:41 PM EDT

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Armorally has them for $100, but shipping is steep. I'm waiting for some place like Brownells @ $100.

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Current best price/retailer on a sba3? Please @ me when you reply. Thanks!!!

Armorally has them for $100, but shipping is steep. I'm waiting for some place like Brownells @ $100.

Primary Arms had a sale a few days ago I posted about for $103. I just checked though and it's back up at $129.99

Posted: 12/22/2018 9:14:51 PM EDT

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Bought an SBA3 for $105 at Grab A Gun about a week ago. Lowest price I could find online. I just built my first 9mm AR pistol. I'm going to go ahead and build a second one and just ordered another CMMG 9mm lower.

Grab A Gun

Posted: 12/23/2018 3:05:55 PM EDT

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Posted: 12/28/2018 10:41:20 AM EDT

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CMMG has a compact buffer tube version of the SAB3 now.

Outpost Armory just outside of Murfreesboro, TN had a stack of SBA3 Black braces on Sale for $99.99 yesterday.

Posted: 12/28/2018 9:56:01 PM EDT

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botach has them for 105 shipped. i got 3 in a month from them.

Posted: 12/31/2018 1:56:17 PM EDT

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Anyone know if the SBA3 would work on a CAR buffer tube? Want to upgrade from the shockwave on my 609 pistol, but would rather have a black 6-position tube than a brace that won't lock in the extended position on a 2-position tube.

Posted: 12/31/2018 3:51:38 PM EDT

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CMMG has a compact buffer tube version of the SAB3 now.

Outpost Armory just outside of Murfreesboro, TN had a stack of SBA3 Black braces on Sale for $99.99 yesterday.

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Whoa! Thanks for posting about the compact version, didn't know about those. I'm thinking that you could add more allen bolts if you wanted more brace positions?

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