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Posted: 1/23/2019 10:20:11 AM EDT
time to re-barrel my spikes rifle with another 14.5
which is it, FN CHF or DD? both are the same price with LEO discount. Leaning more towards the DD BTW: I only run FSB, no LP gas blocks for this guy. |
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The current FN produced barrels I have , 2x 5.56, 1x 308, are crazy consistent accurate after lapping the upper receiver face.
Never had a DD barrel. |
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I just got a 14.5 FN CHF barrel. It is impeccable and excellent quality. I am sure DD will be just as good.
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From the pictures others have posted here comparing the rifling it’s seem DD is the better choice.
Sorry I don’t have the link. |
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Geissele picked DD to barrel their new uppers.
That to me solidified their already stellar reputation. |
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Flip a coin like others have said. I have a Spikes FN CHF "optimum" profile and it is a great barrel. It is not a precision rifle barrel but with match ammo I can shoot 1MOA with ease. I also like the profile it is not pencil profile but not a heavy profile.
https://aimsurplus.com/spikes-tactical-16-st-fn-chf-5-56-barrel-w-pinned-mid-length-lpgb |
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time to re-barrel my spikes rifle with another 14.5 which is it, FN CHF or DD? both are the same price with LEO discount. Leaning more towards the DD BTW: I only run FSB, no LP gas blocks for this guy. View Quote with fsb, no option other than Colt socom imho. These are GREAT barrels of the FN or DD, FN all day |
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From the pictures others have posted here comparing the rifling it’s seem DD is the better choice. Sorry I don’t have the link. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
From the pictures others have posted here comparing the rifling it’s seem DD is the better choice. Sorry I don’t have the link. That post is what has me on the fence Quoted: https://aimsurplus.com/spikes-tactical-14-5-5-56-mid-length-lw-nfa-pistol-barrel for non fsb should you ever change your mind with fsb, no option other than Colt socom imho. These are GREAT barrels of the FN or DD, FN all day |
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I’ve had some FN barrels that were extremely accurate, and some FN barrels that were average.
Every DD barrel I have had has been exceptionally accurate. |
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I've never owned nor shot a FN AR barrel so I cant help there, but i do have two DD barrels that have been fantastic and another I havent shot yet.
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I am an FN fanboy. That being said, I personally think Daniel Defense is better than FN and Colt in every way, including barrels.
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Faxon makes great barrels. check them out.
https://faxonfirearms.com/barrels/ar-15/5-56-nato-223-remington/ |
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Thanks all, I think I am going to try the DD barrel this go around. Seems their CS is out standing as well.
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Thanks all, I think I am going to try the DD barrel this go around. Seems their CS is out standing as well. View Quote |
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Quoted: https://aimsurplus.com/spikes-tactical-14-5-5-56-mid-length-lw-nfa-pistol-barrel for non fsb should you ever change your mind with fsb, no option other than Colt socom imho. These are GREAT barrels of the FN or DD, FN all day View Quote FN is better than DD, but not by much. Splitting cunt hairs really. Ive had 2 DD barrels, both were fantastic, Ive only had FN barrels through PSA. But they were also fantastic, DDs were 16" and a 12", PSA/FNs were 20" so not a real comparison. The 20" I was more consistent with, but was more used to full sized rifles back then. If I were to compare again, Id probably not be able to tell a real difference. |
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Either one would be great but only one would get my money, due to the other trying to throw our 2A under the bus. I dont care how good a companies products are or how great the price is..I dont support companies that take anti American positions against our constitution. And I dont believe the backpeddling damage control either.
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Either one would be great but only one would get my money, due to the other trying to throw our 2A under the bus. I dont care how good a companies products are or how great the price is..I dont support companies that take anti American positions against our constitution. And I dont believe the backpeddling damage control either. View Quote |
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Either one would be great but only one would get my money, due to the other trying to throw our 2A under the bus. I dont care how good a companies products are or how great the price is..I dont support companies that take anti American positions against our constitution. And I dont believe the backpeddling damage control either. that said, I pick up that FN today! thx for that info!!!! |
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it's valid and we all need to stick together on this. that said, I pick up that FN today! thx for that info!!!! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Either one would be great but only one would get my money, due to the other trying to throw our 2A under the bus. I dont care how good a companies products are or how great the price is..I dont support companies that take anti American positions against our constitution. And I dont believe the backpeddling damage control either. that said, I pick up that FN today! thx for that info!!!! |
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Every time I hear this argument, I see these same people with Geissele gear View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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I am a CAPITALIST. Is this gonna get locked too for dumb s@#t?
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Wasn't one of Colts owners saying some anti-2a stuff a few years ago? And also Ruger's. And S&W's owners loved the Clintons back in the day and started putting that lock on their revolvers. And the parent companies of FN and HK are from dirty commie new world order countries. And LaRue said some anti-bump stock stuff a while back. Looks like we're down to a couple companies, boys.
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Both are good to go IMHO OP however, I would personally choose the DD out of the two.
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Not me, Im more discerning. Won't own anything troy or dd now. Troy is worse however and think people who do are hypocrites and either selfish, lack a spine, integrity, and can't stand up for whats right. Imho View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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it's valid and we all need to stick together on this. that said, I pick up that FN today! thx for that info!!!! I suppose I shall be judged to lack a spine? It's a lot of money, and time invested in builds to just sell or toss out. |
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Not me, Im more discerning. Won't own anything troy or dd now. Troy is worse however and think people who do are hypocrites and either selfish, lack a spine, integrity, and can't stand up for whats right. Imho View Quote |
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Either company makes a decent barrel,.....between the two, I’d take the DD
As far as the politics BS, i could care less. Ive bought Troy sights long before the crapstorm. Only a fool would trash parts that were bought before a meltdown. Doubt I’ll buy any more Troy products. RRA, Springfield, Ruger, Troy,......all have done stupid crap. |
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The barrel on my SCAR 17 is the most accurate CL Barrel I have shot. That said, my DD rifles are accurate and DD has more options for barrel length and profile than FN.
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Either company makes a decent barrel,.....between the two, I’d take the DD As far as the politics BS, i could care less. Ive bought Troy sights long before the crapstorm. Only a fool would trash parts that were bought before a meltdown. Doubt I’ll buy any more Troy products. RRA, Springfield, Ruger, Troy,......all have done stupid crap. View Quote |
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Same price?
Both have the profile you like? Both CHF? I'd pick DD. But it is almost a coin toss. |
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I am a CAPITALIST. Is this gonna get locked too for dumb s@#t? View Quote Dont have to get emotional. Dont have to get political. Can keep this technical. But not mentioning companies, suggesting against them for either factual reasons or "personal preference". What people do should matter. Not what they say. I dont care for "apologies", they are just words. I bailed on Armalite because of Westrom supporting bullshit in NY. I support Armalite now that theyve been gutted and taken from him and moved to an even more gun friendly and people friendly state. It kinda sucks because thats how these things works, but it got my business and recommendations again. You cant say that for RRA, Springfield, or many others. You want to make a difference with these companies? Stop buying their shit. Anyways, I like FN because they supply so much. Are more capable. DD is good stuff too. But they are not FN. |
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i saw that today, i was about to pull the trigger on the fn till i saw the scope of the rifling. that dd sure did look sweet and i've never owned one in 14.5 [DANIEL DEFENSE] That post is what has me on the fence for the FSB I would have to order from spikes which is what i would do - LEO/MIL discounts is what puts that and DD at the same price. I normally order from primary or aim but neither have with FSB View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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From the pictures others have posted here comparing the rifling it’s seem DD is the better choice. Sorry I don’t have the link. That post is what has me on the fence Quoted: https://aimsurplus.com/spikes-tactical-14-5-5-56-mid-length-lw-nfa-pistol-barrel for non fsb should you ever change your mind with fsb, no option other than Colt socom imho. These are GREAT barrels of the FN or DD, FN all day I understand why you wanted to that route however, good luck regardless and shoot whichever barrel out!!!!!! |
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It really isn't valid though, if you look at the facts of the matter instead of making an irrational emotional argument. Don't be like the lefties, Daniel Defense mistakenly backed a bill and retracted/apologized for the mishap. It isn't backpeddling and it isn't damage control, mistakes genuinely do happen. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Either one would be great but only one would get my money, due to the other trying to throw our 2A under the bus. I dont care how good a companies products are or how great the price is..I dont support companies that take anti American positions against our constitution. And I dont believe the backpeddling damage control either. that said, I pick up that FN today! thx for that info!!!! anyway, the FN is better imho anyway but that spikes barrel (which I believe the blanks are FN) is my absolute favorite |
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not being irrational or emotional my friend, if a company can't make the right choices that are well researched then they are making quick/il founded/unreasoned decisions base on what then; emotions anyway, the FN is better imho anyway but that spikes barrel (which I believe the blanks are FN) is my absolute favorite View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Either one would be great but only one would get my money, due to the other trying to throw our 2A under the bus. I dont care how good a companies products are or how great the price is..I dont support companies that take anti American positions against our constitution. And I dont believe the backpeddling damage control either. that said, I pick up that FN today! thx for that info!!!! anyway, the FN is better imho anyway but that spikes barrel (which I believe the blanks are FN) is my absolute favorite My point isn't to be irrational or emotional but rather logical. Look at the facts at hand and make an educated decision on it, not a knee jerk reaction of "HE SUPPORTED THAT, BURN HIM!" which is actually irrational and based entirely on emotion. Daniel Defense, as a company, has sold every single item they produced for the military market to the civilian market. Even the MK18 handguard in FDE, albeit now you must get it through purchasing an entire upper or firearm. Does this sound like a company that wants to restrict second amendment rights? Both barrels are solid contenders OP, really can't do wrong with either. There is a thread of the Spikes one I believe being bore scoped and it didn't look to hold up as well as the DD barrel though. |
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I have a 10.5" chrome lined FN barrel that is as accurate as my match guns out to 200 yards. The gas port is perfect and the gun works with all ammo, even weak wolf. Had it for 7 years with thousands of rounds through it with zero issues. The owner of DD showed his true colors. I will never buy any DD items again. |
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Quoted: years ago there were threads on this barrel and the owner of spikes said it was his personal favorite. I've had all these barrels and more and this one is in another league. It's more accurate than my socoms which are more accurate than my noveske which is more accurate than my FNs and DD (which I got rid of). I understand why you wanted to that route however, good luck regardless and shoot whichever barrel out!!!!!! View Quote |
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My DD barrel shoots better than my FN barrels by about .5 moa. I can get 2 moa from my fn's on a good day with match ammo.
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I’ve had some FN barrels that were extremely accurate, and some FN barrels that were average. Every DD barrel I have had has been exceptionally accurate. View Quote |
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As I said in my original post either one is a good choice. I left which one wouldnt get my money to the imagination.
I wouldnt expect anyone to destroy items they had purchased in the past (that would be a waste) and I wouldnt either, but certain companies wont be getting any money from me in the future. Its just bad business alienating your customer base to appease people who will never buy your product anyway and who foam at the mouth thinking about destroying your business along with everyones constitutional rights. There are some mistakes that are just too bad to forget and forgetting mistakes sets the stage for repetition. |
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which one has the most modern rotary hammer forging equipment and least time on the mandrel?
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