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Posted: 10/25/2011 9:09:54 PM EDT
I intend on stocking more bottles up for barter in the next few weeks. What brands do you believe will have the highest trade value?
Jack daniels Vodka Jim beam Tequila Thats what i have thus far. Thoughs...... Captain morgan & so co are next on the list. |
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My opinion on this is that specific brands would be a more specific and specialized trade. I think if someone really wants booze, they won't be terribly concerned with it's taste and more concerned with it's effects.
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Something that can be watered down without too much notice. White lightning? 180 proof?
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Vodka
Pure - not flavored. Can be used as booze or an antiseptic. |
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Definitely vodka.
It's the most universal and popular. Hell, buy Tito's and you're even gluten free. |
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Pure grain, like Everclear.
More bang for the buck in many ways. It takes less to get the effects people are likely paying for. It can be used for other applications like disinfecting, fuel for a soda can stove, light anesthetic, etc. Maybe a bottle or two of expensive stuff for those with something useful to trade. My friends who are the pickiest (and spend the most) on alcohol are all mostly Scotch fans, so that may be a good place to start. |
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I have been laying in el cheapo as shito vodka. Great for barter, antiseptic, and the occasional snake bite! I keep the good stuff (Maker's, Bushmills, Scotch, tequila) for an occasional snort.
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I am on the vodka bandwagon as well. Many uses other than getting drunk. Same with everclear I suppose. I have a lot of other prepping areas to worry about after about a case of vodka, so I probably wouldnt go the high end stuff like scotch and other liquors.
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Vodka Pure - not flavored. Can be used as booze or an antiseptic. Another vote for this one. |
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A still. A still takes quite a bit of time and resources to keep running. I would think time spent making alky would better be used for more urgent matters after SHTF/TEOTWAWKI (atleast in the short term). Going with the idea of multiple uses for everything, you would want something that is >120 proof so it can be used as an antiseptic. |
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Funny, I was thinking about htis the other day.
I think having a shitload of shooters of various brands would be real good for barter. As mentioned, lots of everclear and vodka more for medicinal purposes, and whiskeys and such for the drinkers. |
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Everclear
Can be watered down Can be used as an antiseptic Can be used as fuel |
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I went with vodka, mid grade, something the snobs will still drink and not to expensive. I placed them in the bottom of our blanket chest lined up like little soldiers.
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Pure grain, like Everclear. More bang for the buck in many ways. It takes less to get the effects people are likely paying for. It can be used for other applications like disinfecting, fuel for a soda can stove, light anesthetic, etc. Maybe a bottle or two of expensive stuff for those with something useful to trade. My friends who are the pickiest (and spend the most) on alcohol are all mostly Scotch fans, so that may be a good place to start. +1 |
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I don't drink very often, but I've got a bit of JD and Capt. Morgan's put away for rainy nights. ymmv
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Don't forget chocolate and coffee as barter items as well. I keep all three on hand even though I don't drink alcohol or coffee. Coffee is whole beans vacuum packed.
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I would imagine the liquor with the highest dollar value now would have the highest trade value later.
I wouldn't buy grain now at 10 dollars a gallon, Im sure as hell not going to be trading for it later. |
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Seriously, the better the booze, the more if will fetch. Aged single malt Scotches, aged single barrel whiskeys, and aged brandy's have always fetched the highest value.
This isn't a guess on my part but based on history. When times are hard, luxury items have value but the luxury items for the rich and famous so to say, go through the roof. Buy the good stuff and leave the train car stuff for Saturday nights party of something like that. |
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Moonshine / Everclear.
100% Ethanol with zero additives. Pure alcohol, that can be used for fuel on cooking stoves, antiseptic / disinfectant for wound dressings & medicinal purposes, and can be added extremely sparingly to a cup of tea or electrolyte drink at night time as a light pain killer for aching bones after a hard day of hiking cross-country - just enough to dull the pain so you can fall asleep naturally. Since that typically is illegal though, I'd say 151 Rum, a good aged single-malt scotch, and as pure of a vodka as you can find... ETA: I prefer the idea of having as high of alcohol content as possible to increase its ability to burn in an alcohol stove. |
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Funny, I was thinking about htis the other day. I think having a shitload of shooters of various brands would be real good for barter. As mentioned, lots of everclear and vodka more for medicinal purposes, and whiskeys and such for the drinkers. I was thinking about this the other day as well. Looks like Vodka is the way to go. However, for consumption, in my neck of the woods, whisky, Windsor Canadian to be exact, seems to be pretty popular amongst the hunters/shooters that I'm acquainted with. |
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I keep Jack Daniels, Bacardi Rum, Wild Turkey 101 and Smirnoff vodka in the 100ml bottles, and Everclear in 750's and pints. I have to buy the Everclear elsewhere, as Florida limits it to 150 proof here, as opposed to the 190 proof available in AL and GA.
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So thus far
Vodka seems to be in 1st place, as well as 151 grain alcohol. Jack & Vodka seem to be the way go. |
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it wont matter........Rot gut anything will be drinkable by those hard up for a fix........be advised an addict needing a fix is capable of just about anything
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I rode up to N.H. State Liquor store to buy a load of cheap booze in small bottles. Comparing prices, brand, to volume. I couldn't justify the purchase. I ended up with big bottles of middle/top shelf.
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I would go with good stuff, someone will build a still, but a good Scotch or whisky.....you won't see that for a long time. And most is what we will drink, screw trade, only if I need something I do not have.
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Everclear, Vodka, and Rum are probably going to be the most sought after.
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I bought a case of Jack Daniels pints for trade stock . sealed and a recognizable product . I also bought some for me as well as Vodka.
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I have everclear and Grey Goose for barter
And: coffee cigarettes .22LR medical equipment some batteries |
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Vodka is the #1 response because this is a survival forum. If you want something for trade bait you can't go wrong with any cheap brand of Kentucky bourbon or sour mash. The people you trade it to are going to want to get drunk with it. Kentucky bourbon (even the cheap shit) tastes much better than vodka. You can buy decent bourbon for $10 a liter or the cheap stuff at the gas station for less than $7. Evan Williams green label is roughly $10 and is pretty decent.
Personally for trade bait I would buy the cheapest shit out there.
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Good topic!
While everclear is good stuff for mixing and whatnot... I dont know a single person that will drink that stuff straight and in SHTF people arnt just going to have a can of coke or a gallon of fruit punch to mix it with. That being said.... If definitely lean towards vodkas and whiskeys. And not just 20 bottles of jack and 20 bottles of svedka... mix it up and get one or two of a wide variety of stuff! Hell.... even if you never trade it... at least you can drink/use it and itd be nice to have options. Lets face it.... even jack daniels gets old when its the only thing you get to sip on for a looooong time. Personal ones for me: Svekda Vodka Ciroc Vodka Makers Mark Whiskey Knob Creek Whiskey Sailor Jerry Rum Captain Morgan Jose Cuervo Patron Tequila Peppermint schnapps (for the cold nights) |
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If cheap vodka is a hot trade item, it's value will never be higher then the cost to make it, and making moonshine and vodka isn't rocket science.
Gin and whiskey might be work more. So might premimum brands. |
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Quoted: I intend on stocking more bottles up for barter in the next few weeks. What brands do you believe will have the highest trade value? Jack daniels Vodka Jim beam Tequila Thats what i have thus far. Thoughs...... Captain morgan & so co are next on the list. If you are near the northern edge of IL, Sconnies will be wanting Brandy. |
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The liquor that will have the highest trade value in SHTF is whatever I do not have.
sad, but true. |
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If cheap vodka is a hot trade item, it's value will never be higher then the cost to make it, and making moonshine and vodka isn't rocket science. Gin and whiskey might be work more. So might premimum brands. Moonshine ain't cheap either.... |
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151, get drunk breath fire and fight infections Exactly. Less weight per effect. And I would stock the cheap stuff. As long as the buyers know it is factory made, that should be enough. |
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Stocking alcohol for barter "after the SHTF" is a fantasy. Instead of putting a cent into this or that that some nutjob swears will be worth a fortune ... "after SHTF" put that money into precious metals. That I guarantee you it will be worth what you paid for, or significantly more if the economy collapses.
Lets not even get into speculating about makign a killing selling it to somoene with an adiciton problem. The only thing I'd store would be grain alcohol like the one pictured, not as "barter" but as something that has a number of uses including fuel for cooking and heating, wound cleaning and desinfection, maybe a stiff drink or two. Dangerous road that is, if you get used to going that way when there's problems you will be using that way too often during a crisis. I know that like smokes, it has value in certain circumstances. Yes, it wil buy favors from ex soviet union militia, just like somkes are valuable among prisoners. Guess what? Warm pizza delivered to a police district in south America also buys you favors, and phone cards are even more valuable than smokes, do you plan on stocking up those too? The barter value of ciggaretes or alcohol is limited to specific situations, usually ones where there's unnatural restricitons of trade and commerece like being imprisoned, a city under siege, and such. For an American to plan on getting these as barter items of great value its goign too much into fantasy land and not being realisitc about the things that are more likely to occur. FerFAL |
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