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At my station if a cop is getting a self initiated felony arrest a night he is doing really well.
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At my station if a cop is getting a self initiated felony arrest a night he is doing really well. How about your area? View Quote Pretty much the same but you wouldn't be able to make an arrest every night. You be over the OT cap with arrest processing OT after about the 5th-6th arrest. Then your arrest would be reassigned to another cop. (usually your partner) |
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Unless an agency has figured out a way to speed paperwork one felony a shift is a go getter.
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2-3 isnt a big deal. Paperwork takes the same amount of time whether its a felony, misdemeanor, or municipal arrest. I have had as many as five in one night, and it didnt take more than an hour or two of OT to get them done.
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2-3 isnt a big deal. Paperwork takes the same amount of time whether its a felony, misdemeanor, or municipal arrest. I have had as many as five in one night, and it didnt take more than an hour or two of OT to get them done. View Quote One arrest puts you out for the whole night where I worked. |
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2-3 isnt a big deal. Paperwork takes the same amount of time whether its a felony, misdemeanor, or municipal arrest. I have had as many as five in one night, and it didnt take more than an hour or two of OT to get them done. One arrest puts you out for the whole night where I worked. I can have a non-DUI arrest hooked, booked, and typed in well under an hour. A DUI will take closer to an hour and a half. |
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I can have a non-DUI arrest hooked, booked, and typed in well under an hour. A DUI will take closer to an hour and a half. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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2-3 isnt a big deal. Paperwork takes the same amount of time whether its a felony, misdemeanor, or municipal arrest. I have had as many as five in one night, and it didnt take more than an hour or two of OT to get them done. One arrest puts you out for the whole night where I worked. I can have a non-DUI arrest hooked, booked, and typed in well under an hour. A DUI will take closer to an hour and a half. DUI is 8+ hours here. Very few arrests take less than 6 hours or so to process. |
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DUI is 8+ hours here. Very few arrests take less than 6 hours or so to process. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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2-3 isnt a big deal. Paperwork takes the same amount of time whether its a felony, misdemeanor, or municipal arrest. I have had as many as five in one night, and it didnt take more than an hour or two of OT to get them done. One arrest puts you out for the whole night where I worked. I can have a non-DUI arrest hooked, booked, and typed in well under an hour. A DUI will take closer to an hour and a half. DUI is 8+ hours here. Very few arrests take less than 6 hours or so to process. What takes so long? Here, a DUI can be run in under two hours from the time the blue lights go on to the end of paperwork if the officer is on top of things. |
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What takes so long? Here, a DUI can be run in under two hours from the time the blue lights go on to the end of paperwork if the officer is on top of things. View Quote First you have to go to the designated testing site where highway patrol does the breathalyzer and tests on video, they're always backlogged there so that usually takes over 2 hours. Then back to the precinct for fingerprinting and vouchering all the person's belongings. Then inventory and vouchering/impounding of the car. If the car is full of stuff it has to be removed and vouchered separately. Then more arrest paperwork. Once that's all done you have to go down to the DA's office to draw up the complaint. That usually takes at least 4-5 hours. That's why the guys who are OT whores love DUIs. They drag their feet through the process and end up with 10-12 hours of OT if they made the arrest near the end of their shift. Make a few of those and the OT amount will be over the set amount of OT hours/month for the precinct and you're capped for the month, no more arrests for you that month.. |
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Quoted: First you have to go to the designated testing site where highway patrol does the breathalyzer and tests on video, they're always backlogged there so that usually takes over 2 hours. Then back to the precinct for fingerprinting and vouchering all the person's belongings. Then inventory and vouchering/impounding of the car. If the car is full of stuff it has to be removed and vouchered separately. Then more arrest paperwork. Once that's all done you have to go down to the DA's office to draw up the complaint. That usually takes at least 4-5 hours. That's why the guys who are OT whores love DUIs. They drag their feet through the process and end up with 10-12 hours of OT if they made the arrest near the end of their shift. Make a few of those and the OT amount will be over the set amount of OT hours/month for the precinct and you're capped for the month, no more arrests for you that month.. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: What takes so long? Here, a DUI can be run in under two hours from the time the blue lights go on to the end of paperwork if the officer is on top of things. First you have to go to the designated testing site where highway patrol does the breathalyzer and tests on video, they're always backlogged there so that usually takes over 2 hours. Then back to the precinct for fingerprinting and vouchering all the person's belongings. Then inventory and vouchering/impounding of the car. If the car is full of stuff it has to be removed and vouchered separately. Then more arrest paperwork. Once that's all done you have to go down to the DA's office to draw up the complaint. That usually takes at least 4-5 hours. That's why the guys who are OT whores love DUIs. They drag their feet through the process and end up with 10-12 hours of OT if they made the arrest near the end of their shift. Make a few of those and the OT amount will be over the set amount of OT hours/month for the precinct and you're capped for the month, no more arrests for you that month.. Interesting. We would inventory whilst waiting for the tow truck. We did our own breathalyzer at the jail, then turn them over to the deputy. An hour, hour and a half at most, start to finish. Unless it was a homicide, you better not spend four hours on any call or your shift mates would make your life hell. An average officer would run twenty calls a night, often with multiple arrests each night. |
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An average officer would run twenty calls a night, often with multiple arrests each night. Impossible on NYPD. You guys tow the car on every DUI? Here, if it's legally parked or a family member can come get it, we leave it in place. My department is apparently similar to KingRat's - in my street cop days a 30 call shift was a real possibility on a hot summer night. |
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An average officer would run twenty calls a night, often with multiple arrests each night. Impossible on NYPD. You guys tow the car on every DUI? If the person arrested is the registered owner it goes for forfeiture. We stopped leaving other cars parked on the street for liability reasons. Cars kept disappearing or getting broken into. 30 calls a night was easy for us too. My old partner called me the other night and told me his division had 119 calls stacked up on the dispatcher's screen. |
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If the person arrested is the registered owner it goes for forfeiture. We stopped leaving other cars parked on the street for liability reasons. Cars kept disappearing or getting broken into. 30 calls a night was easy for us too. My old partner called me the other night and told me his division had 119 calls stacked up on the dispatcher's screen. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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An average officer would run twenty calls a night, often with multiple arrests each night. Impossible on NYPD. You guys tow the car on every DUI? If the person arrested is the registered owner it goes for forfeiture. We stopped leaving other cars parked on the street for liability reasons. Cars kept disappearing or getting broken into. 30 calls a night was easy for us too. My old partner called me the other night and told me his division had 119 calls stacked up on the dispatcher's screen. "Liability", the dread "L" word. One of the most overused boogeymen bullshit excuses ever used by law enforcement, but also one of the main impetuses for getting anything done. |
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Damn Extorris, that explains why you never did any DUI arrests.
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"Liability", the dread "L" word. One of the most overused boogeymen bullshit excuses ever used by law enforcement, but also one of the main impetuses for getting anything done. View Quote People would get released the next day and go to get their car and it would be gone or it would be broken into. Then they'd sue and make a complaint against the officer because we didn't safeguard the car. Oh well, glad I'm retired. |
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Quoted: My old partner called me the other night and told me his division had 119 calls stacked up on the screen. View Quote Mobile Data Units are a blessing. I remember switching to them. Not only did you no longer have to write down your calls on a clipboard whilst driving, but you could check what was pending before you went back in service. Guys would update that pending screen constantly to know when to pull someone over to avoid calls where you would catch paper. |
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Mobile Data Units are a blessing. I remember switching to them. Not only did you no longer have to write down your calls on a clipboard whilst driving, but you could check what was pending before you went back in service. Guys would update that pending screen constantly to know when to pull someone over to avoid calls where you would catch paper. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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My old partner called me the other night and told me his division had 119 calls stacked up on the screen. Mobile Data Units are a blessing. I remember switching to them. Not only did you no longer have to write down your calls on a clipboard whilst driving, but you could check what was pending before you went back in service. Guys would update that pending screen constantly to know when to pull someone over to avoid calls where you would catch paper. We didn't have those but I know what you mean. Guys would be on a call that normally took 5 minutes to handle for an hour because they knew there was a suspected child abuse or rape call waiting to be handled. |
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Quoted: At my station if a cop is getting a self initiated felony arrest a night he is doing really well. How about your area? View Quote It's South Dakota, so... Very little violent or "serious" crime here. If you get one DUI arrest on a weekday night shift you're doing pretty good. Luckily DUI's don't take that long as another officer tows and inventories the car while we transport to the hospital for blood (voluntarily or by warrant but you WILL get blood) and then to jail. Paperwork takes twice as long as the actual arrest process. Weekends are busier but mostly property crimes (theft, vandalism) and noise complaints. I made, I think, one felony arrest this year. Can't remember the last one I made.
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I arrested three last night, including one that needed a FIT for confinement, and still had time to run some radar, assist another agency and write three probable cause statements. 10 hour shift.
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I arrested three last night, including one that needed a FIT for confinement, and still had time to run some radar, assist another age icy and write three probable cause statements. 10 hour shift. Doesn't get much smaller than mine. 7 full time not counting chief and two part time. |
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Quoted: Doesn't get much smaller than mine. 7 full time not counting chief and two part time. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I arrested three last night, including one that needed a FIT for confinement, and still had time to run some radar, assist another age icy and write three probable cause statements. 10 hour shift. Doesn't get much smaller than mine. 7 full time not counting chief and two part time. Wow, it takes us hours to process an arrest. 27 sworn. |
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I arrested three last night, including one that needed a FIT for confinement, and still had time to run some radar, assist another age icy and write three probable cause statements. 10 hour shift. Doesn't get much smaller than mine. 7 full time not counting chief and two part time. Wow, it takes us hours to process an arrest. 27 sworn. We house in the county Jail. It's fully staffed. We walk in and fill out a booking sheet. Help them with the required search AGAIN and retrieve our cuffs and leave. They finger print, dress down, and house them. |
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We didn't have those but I know what you mean. Guys would be on a call that normally took 5 minutes to handle for an hour because they knew there was a suspected child abuse or rape call waiting to be handled. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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My old partner called me the other night and told me his division had 119 calls stacked up on the screen. Mobile Data Units are a blessing. I remember switching to them. Not only did you no longer have to write down your calls on a clipboard whilst driving, but you could check what was pending before you went back in service. Guys would update that pending screen constantly to know when to pull someone over to avoid calls where you would catch paper. We didn't have those but I know what you mean. Guys would be on a call that normally took 5 minutes to handle for an hour because they knew there was a suspected child abuse or rape call waiting to be handled. That's a daily occurrence where I work... |
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My old partner called me the other night and told me his division had 119 calls stacked up on the screen. Mobile Data Units are a blessing. I remember switching to them. Not only did you no longer have to write down your calls on a clipboard whilst driving, but you could check what was pending before you went back in service. Guys would update that pending screen constantly to know when to pull someone over to avoid calls where you would catch paper. We didn't have those but I know what you mean. Guys would be on a call that normally took 5 minutes to handle for an hour because they knew there was a suspected child abuse or rape call waiting to be handled. That's a daily occurrence where I work... "Units we're holding a 10-10 Possible Child Abuse" "Central, show me out on this noise complaint indefinitely" |
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My unit bought a fingerprint machine and suffers the consequences. As a result every arrest MUST be fingerprinted and photographed, even though it's done again as soon as they get to the jail. A fingerprinting for an arrest is DIFFERENT than a booking fingerprinting the say. I should also mention that possession of this machine requires a dedicated T1 line that is isolated from other network attachments (substantial cost associated with this).
This is accomplished by taking them to the station and entering them as in custody. The printing gets done (big PITA) and then an arrest report gets completed. Then the perp is interviewed (must be recorded on video) and eventually he gets "released" electronically. Then he gets handcuffed and taken to the jail, with a copy of the arrest report the officer had to do beforehand. Then suspect gets dropped at the jail, and his property is inventoried against what the officer put in his arrest report. Once the jailer gives the ok, the officer can now leave and deal with the evidence from the case, which must be bar coded and input into a computer, then sealed and placed into a locker. This is a pretty good time to do any followup on the case, because now is the time to complete the report. If you booked a guy, the report must be done before going home. All this is of course done after the initial scene is cleared, so if the scene is a cluster fock, it'll be a while. The new electronic reporting was supposed to be more efficient, it is anything but that. Who ever wrote the code for the fingerprint machine and our reporting software needs a good firing. |
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Quoted: My unit bought a fingerprint machine and suffers the consequences. As a result every arrest MUST be fingerprinted and photographed, even though it's done again as soon as they get to the jail. A fingerprinting for an arrest is DIFFERENT than a booking fingerprinting the say. I should also mention that possession of this machine requires a dedicated T1 line that is isolated from other network attachments (substantial cost associated with this). This is accomplished by taking them to the station and entering them as in custody. The printing gets done (big PITA) and then an arrest report gets completed. Then the perp is interviewed (must be recorded on video) and eventually he gets "released" electronically. Then he gets handcuffed and taken to the jail, with a copy of the arrest report the officer had to do beforehand. Then suspect gets dropped at the jail, and his property is inventoried against what the officer put in his arrest report. Once the jailer gives the ok, the officer can now leave and deal with the evidence from the case, which must be bar coded and input into a computer, then sealed and placed into a locker. This is a pretty good time to do any followup on the case, because now is the time to complete the report. If you booked a guy, the report must be done before going home. All this is of course done after the initial scene is cleared, so if the scene is a cluster fock, it'll be a while. The new electronic reporting was supposed to be more efficient, it is anything but that. Who ever wrote the code for the fingerprint machine and our reporting software needs a good firing. View Quote My department did that as well for a while, but it was old school ink fingerprint cards. It was so much fun trying to print someone whom you were fighting twenty minutes prior. |
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Here, we make the arrest, transport them to the county jail, fill out a four line booking sheet, and head out. Back to the PD, type up a UCR and a PC Affidavit, drop them off at the jail, and you are done. On a simple Petit Larceny, DUS, or warrant, is a twenty minute deal, and thats if you are quite a ways from the jail.
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They're happy that we answer our calls, write a few tickets, serve a few papers, and get an occasional arrest while making sure our reports are submitted in a timely manner without any mistakes.
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We house in the county Jail. It's fully staffed. We walk in and fill out a booking sheet. Help them with the required search AGAIN and retrieve our cuffs and leave. They finger print, dress down, and house them. View Quote I wish we had central booking. I wish our electronic fingerprinting system talked to our booking program and our accident report program so we wouldn't have so much repetitive data entry |
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You guys tow the car on every DUI? Here, if it's legally parked or a family member can come get it, we leave it in place. View Quote Too much liability to just leave it there unsecured. You've seized the driver from their vehicle, you have to take steps to safeguard the vehicle. That's done by towing it |
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I've had 2 DUI's, 4 reports and a felony arrest all before 2am in a 12hr shift. Had all paperwork done by 4, then got another report. I'm glad we don't have the problems some of you do with processing and reports.
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Too much liability to just leave it there unsecured. You've seized the driver from their vehicle, you have to take steps to safeguard the vehicle. That's done by towing it View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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You guys tow the car on every DUI? Here, if it's legally parked or a family member can come get it, we leave it in place. Too much liability to just leave it there unsecured. You've seized the driver from their vehicle, you have to take steps to safeguard the vehicle. That's done by towing it We tow everything unless another sober licensed driver is in the car 99% of the time. |
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Depends the arrest. A warrant or capias arrest takes about 45 minutes from the time I make contact to the time I get back 10-8 in the field. Another 20 to put the narrative from the PC affidavit onto the incident report with all the bubbles filled out.
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Depends the arrest. A warrant or capias arrest takes about 45 minutes from the time I make contact to the time I get back 10-8 in the field. Another 20 to put the narrative from the PC affidavit onto the incident report with all the bubbles filled out. DUI...about 2.5 hours. View Quote A warrant for me will be 2 hours minimum. Locate the individual, take them into custody Process Find a judge. Arraign If remanded, drive to the jail and TOT to Corrections staff. The only variable would be if it was an arrest for another agency. In that case, verify warrant, take into custody, meet their guy at the half way point somewhere and then go back into service after writing a supplemental for other agency assist. |
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Quoted: A warrant for me will be 2 hours minimum. Locate the individual, take them into custody Process Find a judge. Arraign If remanded, drive to the jail and TOT to Corrections staff. The only variable would be if it was an arrest for another agency. In that case, verify warrant, take into custody, meet their guy at the half way point somewhere and then go back into service after writing a supplemental for other agency assist. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Depends the arrest. A warrant or capias arrest takes about 45 minutes from the time I make contact to the time I get back 10-8 in the field. Another 20 to put the narrative from the PC affidavit onto the incident report with all the bubbles filled out. DUI...about 2.5 hours. A warrant for me will be 2 hours minimum. Locate the individual, take them into custody Process Find a judge. Arraign If remanded, drive to the jail and TOT to Corrections staff. The only variable would be if it was an arrest for another agency. In that case, verify warrant, take into custody, meet their guy at the half way point somewhere and then go back into service after writing a supplemental for other agency assist. It's interesting to hear how different things are from place to place. A warrant for us would take 20 minutes tops. Dispatch verifies the warrant, officer takes them to the county jail. Done. No paperwork, back in service. |
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It's interesting to hear how different things are from place to place. A warrant for us would take 20 minutes tops. Dispatch verifies the warrant, officer takes them to the county jail. Done. No paperwork, back in service. View Quote I am curious how any agency has its people arresting anyone without thinking that reports might be needed Its different when you work in the county and you have 7 or 8 townships , 2 judges per town, each issuing warrants. Sometimes the politics of judges who wont answer their phones for late night call outs and the negative feedback from judges of neighboring towns can be quite interesting But yeah, all that driving, paper and judge face time adds up |
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I'm really starting to get the idea it matters how small relative a county or municipal is. We can't spend hours in an arrest. At any given time there's no more than 7 officers to answer calls in the whole county. 2 for SD, 2 for tow different munis, and one in the third muni. We don't have the resources to dilly dally. We clear domestics in 20-25 minutes unless we arrest. My traffic stops with citations are 10 min or less unless a warrant pops or search happens.
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It's interesting to hear how different things are from place to place. A warrant for us would take 20 minutes tops. Dispatch verifies the warrant, officer takes them to the county jail. Done. No paperwork, back in service. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Depends the arrest. A warrant or capias arrest takes about 45 minutes from the time I make contact to the time I get back 10-8 in the field. Another 20 to put the narrative from the PC affidavit onto the incident report with all the bubbles filled out. DUI...about 2.5 hours. A warrant for me will be 2 hours minimum. Locate the individual, take them into custody Process Find a judge. Arraign If remanded, drive to the jail and TOT to Corrections staff. The only variable would be if it was an arrest for another agency. In that case, verify warrant, take into custody, meet their guy at the half way point somewhere and then go back into service after writing a supplemental for other agency assist. It's interesting to hear how different things are from place to place. A warrant for us would take 20 minutes tops. Dispatch verifies the warrant, officer takes them to the county jail. Done. No paperwork, back in service. |
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I am curious how any agency has its people arresting anyone without thinking that reports might be needed Its different when you work in the county and you have 7 or 8 townships , 2 judges per town, each issuing warrants. Sometimes the politics of judges who wont answer their phones for late night call outs and the negative feedback from judges of neighboring towns can be quite interesting But yeah, all that driving, paper and judge face time adds up View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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It's interesting to hear how different things are from place to place. A warrant for us would take 20 minutes tops. Dispatch verifies the warrant, officer takes them to the county jail. Done. No paperwork, back in service. I am curious how any agency has its people arresting anyone without thinking that reports might be needed Its different when you work in the county and you have 7 or 8 townships , 2 judges per town, each issuing warrants. Sometimes the politics of judges who wont answer their phones for late night call outs and the negative feedback from judges of neighboring towns can be quite interesting But yeah, all that driving, paper and judge face time adds up The way our arrest system works. I arrest John smith on x charge. Place him on a 24 hour hold pending a warrant. I finish the PC In as quick of manner as possible and fax it to the prosecuting attorney during the week or the Sheriffs dept during the weekends. If arrest is made after business hours then the prosecutor checks his fax machine every morning and sends the paperwork to the judge and a warrant is issued. |
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Perhaps I misunderstood what you meant. I was speaking of arresting for an outstanding warrant. If I arrested someone on a new charge, then yes, a report would be needed. The idea of beat cop having to find a judge is alien to me as well. We dropped them off at the jail and never saw them again unless it went to court. View Quote I am with you. I never see a judge unless I am in court for a hearing or trial, or I am getting a search warrant signed. We make the arrest, take them to jail, and we are done. As for reports for warrant arrests, we do a simple one side UCR and thats it. Doesn't matter if its a local city warrant, district, or out of state. |
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2-3 isnt a big deal. Paperwork takes the same amount of time whether its a felony, misdemeanor, or municipal arrest. I have had as many as five in one night, and it didnt take more than an hour or two of OT to get them done. One arrest puts you out for the whole night where I worked. Wow. Really. How the hell do you get any work done? That would be like an itch you can't scratch. |
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2-3 isnt a big deal. Paperwork takes the same amount of time whether its a felony, misdemeanor, or municipal arrest. I have had as many as five in one night, and it didnt take more than an hour or two of OT to get them done. One arrest puts you out for the whole night where I worked. Wow. Really. How the hell do you get any work done? Everyone else picks up the slack. That's why you'd catch shit from your coworkers if you went out and made an arrest every night. |
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The way our arrest system works. I arrest John smith on x charge. Place him on a 24 hour hold pending a warrant. I finish the PC In as quick of manner as possible and fax it to the prosecuting attorney during the week or the Sheriffs dept during the weekends. If arrest is made after business hours then the prosecutor checks his fax machine every morning and sends the paperwork to the judge and a warrant is issued. View Quote No one goes into our jail without seeing a judge on an immediate arraignment The only exception would be the straight-to-jail parole warrants If we're getting a warrant for someone there will be a delay of a day or two while the warrant is being applied for. If someone is arrested without a warrant, its back to that immediate arraignment again. Like I said, relatively few exceptions to going to jail without seeing a judge in most cases. Has nothing to do with size of jurisdiction. That's NYS for you |
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Perhaps I misunderstood what you meant. I was speaking of arresting for an outstanding warrant. If I arrested someone on a new charge, then yes, a report would be needed. The idea of beat cop having to find a judge is alien to me as well. We dropped them off at the jail and never saw them again unless it went to court. View Quote Any arrest for us would generate a report. There are relatively few things we do that wouldn't result in a report |
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We are big on DUI arrests and stolen property arrests.
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