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Posted: 6/14/2009 6:49:43 AM EDT
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What's the word for LOTS of fail? |
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Posted: 6/14/2009 6:50:11 AM EDT
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 that's some bad piloting
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Posted: 6/14/2009 6:52:22 AM EDT
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wow scary...hope pilot and passengers were OK....too bad about the loss of such a nice plane too.
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Posted: 6/14/2009 6:53:21 AM EDT
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Will not buff out.
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Posted: 6/14/2009 6:55:41 AM EDT
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Weight and balance folks. Weight and balance. With special attention to the weight part.
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Posted: 6/14/2009 6:55:55 AM EDT
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Will not buff out. Oh yes it will. That fuselage is fine. |
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Posted: 6/14/2009 6:56:08 AM EDT
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I would need a clean pair of shorts.
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Posted: 6/14/2009 6:57:17 AM EDT
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Will not buff out. thats a shame, i work in ATC at a General Aviation airport, you see it from time to time that pilots would rather try to force a landing or take-off than just break it off and try again later |
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Posted: 6/14/2009 7:00:27 AM EDT
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That sucks , Ive watched thousands of planes take off from Lake Hood , never seen anything like that
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Posted: 6/14/2009 7:02:14 AM EDT
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Waste of a nice Beaver, things may be out of perspective because of the way the video was shot but it looks like the pilot(so to speak) was expecting an abnormally short take off. A loaded beaver takes a good long way to come off the water.
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Posted: 6/14/2009 7:07:32 AM EDT
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Holy crap! That cameraman almost got sliced and diced.
Anyone else think that engine didn't sound right at all? |
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Posted: 6/14/2009 7:10:19 AM EDT
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So it looks like he was trying for the channel and the cross wind + dragging the left float a little took him into the shore. Correct?
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Posted: 6/14/2009 7:12:04 AM EDT
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Holy crap! That cameraman almost got sliced and diced. Anyone else think that engine didn't sound right at all? That's how radials sound...until he pulled the power. |
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Posted: 6/14/2009 7:12:13 AM EDT
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Did the guy with the cam ever hear of moving his sweet ass? I'd be running a lot sooner then that!
And what's up with that fuckin' pilot? shit I don't fly and could see he was in deep shit. |
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Posted: 6/14/2009 7:16:03 AM EDT
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So it looks like he was trying for the channel and the cross wind + dragging the left float a little took him into the shore. Correct? Lots of things, but he panicked and was just pulling back on the stick as much as possible. Floatplanes have to get "on the step" before you can pull back on the controls to take off - he never got on the step, you can see he was just thinking he could pull the yoke into his chest and magically take off. |
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Posted: 6/14/2009 7:20:53 AM EDT
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Quoted: So it looks like he was trying for the channel and the cross wind + dragging the left float a little took him into the shore. Correct? Bingo. Floats have lots of drag until they fully clear the water. Unlike wheels, the drag of floats increases until the wetted area decreases substantially. |
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Posted: 6/14/2009 7:27:31 AM EDT
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Will not buff out. Oh yes it will. That fuselage is fine. Except for the shit stains. 
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Posted: 6/14/2009 7:45:03 AM EDT
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I ducked.
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Posted: 6/14/2009 7:49:20 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/14/2009 7:50:06 AM EDT
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Looks like he was trying to get the takeoff filmed the first time around. At :33, it looks like he tried to get off the water and found that there wasn't enough airspeed yet.. He sat the plane back down in the water crooked and instead of correcting; he banked on being up to speed in time to clear.
Planes run on 2 things, speed & altitude; it's OK to run low on one or the other.... not both. |
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Posted: 6/14/2009 8:08:44 AM EDT
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cameraman was very dedicated to his shot. I dont know if I would have recovered quick enough to get the crash in frame. |
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Posted: 6/14/2009 8:12:48 AM EDT
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That sucks.
Dehavilland Beaver, one of my favorite planes. 
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Posted: 6/14/2009 8:23:07 AM EDT
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Not enough speed on the water to rotate. |
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Posted: 6/14/2009 8:44:40 AM EDT
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So it looks like he was trying for the channel and the cross wind + dragging the left float a little took him into the shore. Correct? Bingo. Floats have lots of drag until they fully clear the water. Unlike wheels, the drag of floats increases until the wetted area decreases substantially. He was trying get it up on step, pulling a float out of the water is SOP- SOP also includes that this practice doesn't drag you into the shore. Ouch! |
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Posted: 6/14/2009 8:45:40 AM EDT
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Quoted: Waste of a nice Beaver, things may be out of perspective because of the way the video was shot but it looks like the pilot(so to speak) was expecting an abnormally short take off. A loaded beaver takes a good long way to come off the water. Dude, the way I read that was just so wrong... |
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Posted: 6/14/2009 8:48:36 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So it looks like he was trying for the channel and the cross wind + dragging the left float a little took him into the shore. Correct? Bingo. Floats have lots of drag until they fully clear the water. Unlike wheels, the drag of floats increases until the wetted area decreases substantially. He was trying get it up on step, pulling a float out of the water is SOP- SOP also includes that this practice doesn't drag you into the shore. Ouch! Like a soft field take off, clear the gear, then reduce pitch and accelerate. He kept it near stall because he didn't have enough room. The stall indicator was buzzing from shortly after he rotated until cartwheel. |
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Posted: 6/14/2009 8:48:41 AM EDT
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Weight and balance folks. Weight and balance. With special attention to the weight part. Did he have the prop in "High" position? |
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Posted: 6/14/2009 8:51:48 AM EDT
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My first impression also. Looks like the pilot taxied to align on the camera, then when he realized he was out of room he had an Oh Shit moment and instead of correcting his heading he pulled up into an accelerated stall. Very bad judgment - wonder how many hours this guy had.
Quoted: Looks like he was trying to get the takeoff filmed the first time around. At :33, it looks like he tried to get off the water and found that there wasn't enough airspeed yet.. He sat the plane back down in the water crooked and instead of correcting; he banked on being up to speed in time to clear. Planes run on 2 things, speed & altitude; it's OK to run low on one or the other.... not both. |
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Posted: 6/14/2009 9:00:42 AM EDT
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Quoted: My first impression also. Looks like the pilot taxied to align on the camera, then when he realized he was out of room he had an Oh Shit moment and instead of correcting his heading he pulled up into an accelerated stall. Very bad judgment - wonder how many hours this guy had. Quoted: Looks like he was trying to get the takeoff filmed the first time around. At :33, it looks like he tried to get off the water and found that there wasn't enough airspeed yet.. He sat the plane back down in the water crooked and instead of correcting; he banked on being up to speed in time to clear. Planes run on 2 things, speed & altitude; it's OK to run low on one or the other.... not both. He couldn't see through the engine at that attitude. He lost track of where he was going until the shore came up on him. |
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Posted: 6/14/2009 9:04:42 AM EDT
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Quoted: Holy crap! That cameraman almost got sliced and diced. Anyone else think that engine didn't sound right at all? Beavers are an old design... Radial engine.... Hence they sound different than modern birds which use boxer engines (mostly flat-4s, some flat-6s & flat-8s) or turbines... |
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Posted: 6/14/2009 9:05:24 AM EDT
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Tag
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Posted: 6/14/2009 9:08:56 AM EDT
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Damn! What a waste. |
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Posted: 6/14/2009 9:15:39 AM EDT
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5.) Posting of someone else's personal contact information (home phone numbers, home addresses, unpublished e-mail addresses, and the like).-joker581
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Posted: 6/14/2009 9:16:53 AM EDT
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is the water in the last part of the video not usable? Just thinking about a longer "runway"?
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Posted: 6/14/2009 9:23:19 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/14/2009 9:23:51 AM EDT
[#36]
oops
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Posted: 6/14/2009 9:27:00 AM EDT
[#37]
Who would you call in a situation like that? Tow truck for planes?
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Posted: 6/14/2009 9:28:21 AM EDT
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Quoted: Who would you call in a situation like that? Tow truck for planes? Salvage company with a flatbed. In Alaska? Medium-lift Helicopter |
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Posted: 6/14/2009 9:30:34 AM EDT
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Registered Owner So why put up the guys personal info  |
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Posted: 6/14/2009 9:30:35 AM EDT
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Quoted: is the water in the last part of the video not usable? Just thinking about a longer "runway"? At that angle of attack, the engine is COMPLETLEY blocking forward view. Pilot couldn't maintain the desired bearing. Slight cross component |
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Posted: 6/14/2009 9:30:59 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/14/2009 9:32:05 AM EDT
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Registered Owner Name: EULE JAMES M Street: 20710 PTARMIGAN BLVD City: EAGLE RIVER State: ALASKA Zip Code: 99577-6809 County: ANCHORAGE DIV Country: UNITED STATES very uncool there hooolio |
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Posted: 6/14/2009 9:34:52 AM EDT
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That guy was pretty calm, considering a plane was heading straight towards him!
I posted this in another thread, but it's not getting much traffic since it's an old thread, so I'll post it here. Another aircraft mishap that's gotta be the most amazing I've seen, in several ways. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHUyWw17ihQ&feature=related Turn up the speakers and listen to the cable sliding towards the camera. Also pay attention to how much that cable shakes around those huge helicoptors, and watch the guy in the green shirt. After the first cable another cable comes and hits some of the guys again, and hits the helicoptors again. |
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Posted: 6/14/2009 9:43:17 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Who would you call in a situation like that? Tow truck for planes? Salvage company with a flatbed. In Alaska? Medium-lift Helicopter The accident took place at Lake Hood in Anchorage. The lake is a about a half mile away from the main airport, Ted Stevens International. Where he crashed, there are roads approximately 100 feet away. Trucks, can get in there with no problem at all. This isn't the bush, where a a helicopter would be necessary. |
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Posted: 6/14/2009 1:01:58 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: is the water in the last part of the video not usable? Just thinking about a longer "runway"? At that angle of attack, the engine is COMPLETLEY blocking forward view. Pilot couldn't maintain the desired bearing. Slight cross component True. Look at Lake Hood on google earth. That water you see at the end is the "runway" he was aiming for. Lake hood is an airport. |
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Posted: 6/14/2009 1:04:50 PM EDT
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woops
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Posted: 6/14/2009 1:07:36 PM EDT
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Guy did a great job filming under the circumstances.
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Posted: 6/14/2009 1:09:00 PM EDT
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Will not buff out. Oh yes it will. That fuselage is fine. I agree, it's probably salvageable. A Beaver is certainly worth the effort. Awesome bush plane, I've flown on many of them. I've come close to crashing only once. Whomever said "weight and balance" had it right. |
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Posted: 6/14/2009 1:14:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/14/2009 1:35:04 PM EDT
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Registered Owner Name: EULE JAMES M Street: 20710 PTARMIGAN BLVD City: EAGLE RIVER State: ALASKA Zip Code: 99577-6809 County: ANCHORAGE DIV Country: UNITED STATES very uncool there hooolio What he said. |
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