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Posted: 2/23/2006 1:20:03 PM EDT
Mugger has a weapon and the drop on you.
How much are you willing to part with? Your money? Your wedding ring? Your wife’s jewelry? Your car keys? What if he wants to cop a feel on your wife/girlfriend? Here’s my view: I won’t give up anything, under any conditions. If I have a penny in my pocket and the mugger wants that penny, he’ll have to kill me for it. Either you’re a victim or you’re not. |
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BANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANG *Reload* BANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANG |
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I don't carry any cash
I do carry a lot of ammo I don't trust someone who is willing to hold me against my will and steal my property won't kill me afterwords. They start it, I will finish it. |
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Any force they display that would be enough to talk me into giving up anyting will be sufficient force to justify me using deadly force in self defense
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good point..... |
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I lost $25.00 once. It happened right outside of the DQ in Oceanside, CA.
Dude had a glock and 4 friends. |
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geez look at the anonymous Arfcom tough guys.
Yes, I'm the lone "$, Jewelry" guy up there. At least I'm honest. |
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I'd be willing to give up 7 rounds of Speer Gold Dot .45 ACP. Maybe more, if needed. |
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I would be willing to lose 2 maybe 3 Winchester Rangers in 115 gr +P. That would be all they get.
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I would pretend to reach for my wallet while I drew my 1911. He could have all the lead he could carry after that.
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ha I use Para Ordnances. I CCW a P12 so chalk me up for 13+12 with the reload... |
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I do not to profess to be a tough guy (nor did I or would I sleep at a *whatever* Inn last night) but, I have been in the middle of two armed hold-ups. I lost nothing either time and I do carry several k at any given time. Hell, I have lived a long life and besides, we are all going to die, I'll do it standing up for what I believe. I cannot imagine myself cowering for mercy, it would make a mockery of my life. |
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+1, that is my plan. |
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Everything but my life or the people with me. (i.e. cop a feel etc..)
Material Shit can be replaced. I can't. |
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If he was armed & I wasn't,...he would have everyting I could give him. If he had a bunch of support, like 4 friends, there really wouldn't be any choice, unless they got physical, & I knew they were out for my life, run & dodge like hell! If my son or other family member was with me, I would die trying to defend them if need be. This is the reason I don't ever want to live in a state that doesn't allow me to CC legally. I have often debated with myself CC outside of the law if I visited back to WI, or if forced to live somewhere less free than TEXAS. |
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Are you guys serious? Even granted that reaction time is slower than action time, your ass is still grass. I don't care if you're Chuck Norris, Han Solo, Richard Marcinko, and Massad Ayoob all rolled into one. There is no way you can out draw from ccw someone who already has their gun pointed at you.
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I lost a baseball cap once under the same conditions in TX. I was 13 and unarmed, an apparently dangerous combination. It is not fun being a victim. ETA: Not a DQ; church playground half a block from the police station one way, and half a block from my house the other. |
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then lay down like a good little sheep and STFU |
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Obviously you've never met Jack Bauer |
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Dude this is the internet, I could draw down, have a milkshake, and then shoot the guy. I'm THAT fast. in the internet |
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I don't carry much cash and my only piece of jewelry can be replaced at Kmart for 30 bucks. If his gun is already pointed at me I doubt I'd be willing to try to outdraw his trigger finger. One thing I wouldn't allow to happen without a fight is for him to take my gun. I'd risk a gun fight where I might take the first slug before I'd let myself be disarmed by some unknown criminal.
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Nothing. My money/belongings are worth more than the muggers life.
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Fixed it for you. |
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+1.....and then I would sue his family for my expenses... |
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I'll donate a couple of Ranger T's. Actually, if he "has the drop on me" the worst place for him to be from my perspective is about 5-8 feet away. If he is 3 feet away, a team of surgeons will be needed to take his gat out of his ass. Yes, if I can grab it, it's gone: I know because I've done it. If he's 10 feet or more away, I'll hit cover and drop his ass, just to remove some garbage.
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Put your money where your mouth is, big guy. Find a LEO friend or someone with access to Simunition or go and buy some cheap ass Eagle paintball guns from Wally World. Videotape you outdrawing your friend and shooting him before he gets a shot off and then I'll believe that you could survive this situation. Until then its all conjecture, and bad conjecture at that. ETA: The Department of Transportation, Federal Aviation Administration, Civil Aeromedical institute Physiological Operations, has concluded that the sum of brain perception, brain lag, and reaction time is at a bare minimum, 0.6 to 1.0 seconds. How long does it take you to empty a clip at the range? |
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Well if I was married, my response would be:
They can have my wedding ring if they take the wife with them......... Maybe that is why I'm not married |
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Things don't happen in a vacuum. Condescending and falsely authoritative though your post is, it fails to explain what correlation is to be expected between a situation involving a person who has already decided to shoot a known nonlethal projectile at a familiar target upon a prearranged and fully anticipated signal under distraction-free conditions, and a situation involving a stranger with a better than 50% chance of chemical impairment engaged in an activity premised on the assumptions that the victim is unarmed, presents no threat, and will comply with instructions.* *"Big guy?" If you were as genuinely clever as you are unintentionally hilarious, you'd be somebody. |
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I'll take "Doubletap to the head" for 400, Alex! Seriously, all I'll give them is scabs, scars, internal/external bleeding and eternal anguish over their bad decision. The only thing I give away is a ration of shit to the dirtbags on the freeway offramps. WTH, they've earned it.
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I completly agree with you, but there seem to be a few serious people here who think they'd be able to get to their gun and get off a shot before someone else would and that people who don't even try are somehow less manly. I've got a feeling that robberies end up as homocides when someone with more "balls" than brains decide that they're John Wayne and that the weekends at the range somehow transition perfectly to a real world situation. The reaction time was in reference to some hopped up junkie who is already operating with supercharged synapses deciding he doesn't like the way his "victim" is moving his hands and decides to unload a clip into him, just to be safe. |
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+2 |
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As I looked past the perp and reached for my 'wallet', I point past him with my free hand and exclaim "That bitch gots no clothes on! DAMNN!" then, stepping sidways and putting several rounds into his face, I'd have to say "Nope...my bad" "It's you what's got no face!"
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