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Posted: 10/17/2021 4:03:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: but it's still daylight saving time If you had been saving your money during daylight, you would have enough to own the night. |
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Posted: 10/17/2021 5:20:21 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’d rather buy a real helmet as to not waste the cash on a bump that isn’t super practical. Trying to work through the different films and wether or not I want white or green. “Bump isnt super practical” 
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Posted: 10/17/2021 8:19:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: “Bump isnt super practical” Hey, I’m super glad I had a ballistic helmet vs a bump helmet my last couple night vision outings, I would have never survived being shot in the head while star gazing or taking pictures through my NODs to post online without at least level III Kevlar. |
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Posted: 10/17/2021 9:47:01 PM EDT
[#4]
you guys got me....
plus a deal I couldn't pass up I think my wife hates me now 
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Posted: 10/17/2021 11:37:14 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you had been saving your money during daylight, you would have enough to own the night.  Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 10/18/2021 3:01:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Order up some 4D pads for it. It’s like your head is surrounded by breasts. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/384478/5CD8AFCF-0592-4921-A372-6CEAB641A183-2114638.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'll admit, buying team wendy hurt, but they are under new ownership, they are American made and they are comfortable as fuck and they are in stock when many aren't. But the history leaves a sour taste regardless. Quoted: Old owner hosted Hilary the cunt during the 16 election. Sucked up being the commie cunts that they were. Hard to forget where their loyalties lay then. Quoted: That was horrible. They gambled on that barracuda winning. Love my LTP but damn, I can’t help but think about the knife in the back every time I pick it up. Thanks for the backstory. I'm glad they have new ownership because I too have a LTP. I worked p/t for about 10 years in bike shops in the summer and ski shops in the winter. Not only did we get deep discounts on equipment, we had our pick, and the factory reps would dial it in for us. Having said that, I can't believe how light and comfortable the Team Wendy LTP was right out of the box. Order up some 4D pads for it. It’s like your head is surrounded by breasts. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/384478/5CD8AFCF-0592-4921-A372-6CEAB641A183-2114638.jpg I have the 4D pads in my opscore. Titty sandwich head cloud of comfort doesn't even begin to describe them. They feel like if God himself needed nods. |
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Posted: 10/18/2021 7:52:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/18/2021 8:59:56 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have the 4D pads in my opscore. Titty sandwich head cloud of comfort doesn't even begin to describe them. They feel like if God himself needed nods. |
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Posted: 10/18/2021 10:28:12 PM EDT
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iphone 13 pro is coming tomorrow...
can't wait to take pics through the DTNVS L3 unfilmed with it. Wonder how well the macro mode works under nods.... Side note: it is crazy how soon you can detect light. This weekend I was dicking around on the heavily wooded road in front of my house. I saw light from a oncoming vehicle 30 seconds before I could see it with my naked eye. Like the weird fuck I am I sat in the woods watching the guy drive by knowing he had no idea I was there. |
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Posted: 10/18/2021 10:29:10 PM EDT
[#10]
OP still hasn’t bought me any nods.
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Posted: 10/18/2021 10:30:02 PM EDT
[#11]
Anybody running the BNVD Photonis Echo WP setup? Curious for some real world feedback.
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Posted: 10/18/2021 10:33:02 PM EDT
[#12]
If you don't have night vision, you're wrong.
If you don't have thermal, you're missing everything. Helmet mounted thermal for the win. Now watch a Cola Warrior kick ass through an Iray MH25.  Cola Warrior Heartland 1 2021 MustangDuck through Iray MH25 Thermal aka ChinaSkeet |
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Posted: 10/19/2021 12:17:11 AM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: OP still hasn’t bought me any nods. Lead times are a bitch. Keep waiting dude
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Posted: 10/19/2021 12:20:48 AM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lead times are a bitch. Keep waiting dude @20iner hit up nocturnality gear... they will get you set with a device in your hands this week. just saying. No need to wait half a year to get something that others are readily selling every day. |
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Posted: 10/19/2021 12:22:38 AM EDT
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PVS14 arrived this morning. Looking for suggestions for a J-Arm and mount. In the mean time what are some must do things? What blew your mind the first time you looked through the tube?
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Posted: 10/19/2021 12:38:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anybody running the BNVD Photonis Echo WP setup? Curious for some real world feedback. |
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Posted: 10/19/2021 12:42:54 AM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: PVS14 arrived this morning. Looking for suggestions for a J-Arm and mount. In the mean time what are some must do things? What blew your mind the first time you looked through the tube? Best mount is supposed to be the Wilcox G24 used with dovetail j- arm. I stuck with bayonette mount j arm that came with the devices so I opted for the Wilcox G11 and Norotos rhino 2. Both are fine. Lots of adjustments. |
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Posted: 10/19/2021 12:52:46 AM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @20iner hit up nocturnality gear... they will get you set with a device in your hands this week. just saying. No need to wait half a year to get something that others are readily selling every day. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Lead times are a bitch. Keep waiting dude @20iner hit up nocturnality gear... they will get you set with a device in your hands this week. just saying. No need to wait half a year to get something that others are readily selling every day. I've suffered the TNVC wait time already. Worth it. 
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Posted: 10/19/2021 7:55:27 AM EDT
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Anyone ordered anything L3 in last year or so? If so, how accurate were their lead times? Is was quoted 6 months, and am 5 months into the wait.
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Posted: 10/19/2021 8:15:40 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/19/2021 8:15:52 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Anybody running the BNVD Photonis Echo WP setup? Curious for some real world feedback. Here's a thread from NV forum BNVD with Photonis tubes thread |
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Posted: 10/19/2021 8:28:46 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone ordered anything L3 in last year or so? If so, how accurate were their lead times? Is was quoted 6 months, and am 5 months into the wait. |
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Posted: 10/19/2021 8:30:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I really need a night range trip... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/68140/20210916_200446_jpg-2135514.JPG And possibly a bump. TW or Ops-Core? |
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Posted: 10/19/2021 9:14:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone ordered anything L3 in last year or so? If so, how accurate were their lead times? Is was quoted 6 months, and am 5 months into the wait. Mine was about 5 months |
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Posted: 10/19/2021 9:30:19 AM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone ordered anything L3 in last year or so? If so, how accurate were their lead times? Is was quoted 6 months, and am 5 months into the wait. It really depends on what you bought. If you have some pie in the sky spec requests you might have to wait as long as @JohnDough Other places have tons of l3 stuff in stock. Just depends on what you want. |
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Posted: 10/19/2021 1:21:47 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It really depends on what you bought. If you have some pie in the sky spec requests you might have to wait as long as @JohnDough Other places have tons of l3 stuff in stock. Just depends on what you want. This. Im happy with the situation, though. So is Shelby. I tend to view stuff in terms of decades, not months. Lots of people are more "immediate". |
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Posted: 10/19/2021 5:46:09 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: PVS14 arrived this morning. Looking for suggestions for a J-Arm and mount. In the mean time what are some must do things? What blew your mind the first time you looked through the tube? Seeing the light on in a room when the hollow core door was closed. |
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Posted: 10/19/2021 6:46:20 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This. Im happy with the situation, though. So is Shelby. I tend to view stuff in terms of decades, not months. Lots of people are more "immediate". Yeah it wasnt a dig, just saying wait time is more dependent on the desired outcome than a set number. |
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Posted: 10/19/2021 7:37:04 PM EDT
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Pulled the trigger on a set of Photonis Echo BNVDs, G24 mount, and a DBAL 9007 from Robert at JRH today. Despite my job being in limbo from vax mandate I had saved and planned for this all year and decided to move forward. I literally got the email from my employer the day I was going to order last week…naturally, I hesitated…but today decided to follow through. This was the final piece of an 18-month plan to build a solid rifle, suppressor, armor, and NV.
Unfortunately Robert didn’t have any helmets in stock so I need to find one. I’m leaning towards a TW Exfil LTP or an Opscore Fast bump…anyone have any input on those 2? Or any others to look into? Hoping to stay around the $300 range like those 2 but I can go up a little more if it’s worth it. |
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Posted: 10/19/2021 9:53:04 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah it wasnt a dig, just saying wait time is more dependent on the desired outcome than a set number. I didnt take it as one, or respond intending to. I agree 100% on outcome vs wait. I got kinda nutty on what I wanted, and I waited for it. That said, I'm slowly coming in line with the idea that more or less, anything over 32snr, filmless, with decent ebi and halo, 64lp or greater, will perform well enough that to pick it out from a supertube in head mount application, would require a very nuanced approach. Still, specs sell, and I wasn't sure I wouldnt go binos. |
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Posted: 10/19/2021 10:15:40 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you don't have night vision, you're wrong. If you don't have thermal, you're missing everything. Helmet mounted thermal for the win. Now watch a Cola Warrior kick ass through an Iray MH25.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLCU0o7BUAs@DirtyHandsRob Any details on what was used to capture Vid on MH25? I've wished twice now I'd of had video of some night time antics... HMT and PVS14 has blown my mind, a double dose of super powers, and yet I'm still a poors in this game. For those debating color, I have a green 14 with a LLI white filter which takes the edge off the green and eases my eyestrain a bit going back and forth with the thermal. For $30 it's worth the lens protection alone. Take your time getting used to your stuff at first and take lots of breaks in the beginning. I'm still a newbie myself, but Shelby helped me out with that... Build up your stamina and neck muscles. I did 4 hours straight the other night, but about half of that was with my buddy using my thermal to spot. |
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Posted: 10/19/2021 10:22:28 PM EDT
[#32]
Extra DBAL sitting around. Works great!
Going to try it out this weekend with some coyotes.  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/19/2021 10:26:28 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Extra DBAL sitting around. Works great! Going to try it out this weekend with some coyotes. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/165818/20211019_211937_jpg-2136393.JPG  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/19/2021 11:57:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryYa kinda makes my head a target.
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Posted: 10/20/2021 8:22:46 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Extra DBAL sitting around. Works great! Going to try it out this weekend with some coyotes. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/165818/20211019_211937_jpg-2136393.JPG LOL. And I always thought they were too much for a rifle! |
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Posted: 10/20/2021 1:11:56 PM EDT
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What dot for passive aiming? piggybacked on LPVO
Rmr? T1? |
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Posted: 10/20/2021 1:16:48 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Extra DBAL sitting around. Works great! Going to try it out this weekend with some coyotes. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/165818/20211019_211937_jpg-2136393.JPG strong neck 
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Posted: 10/20/2021 1:26:29 PM EDT
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My wife has a considerably smaller head (yet far more brain power) than me. My helmet rig wouldn’t work and the skull crusher was awful. So I decided to make a lightweight budget helmet rig for her. I ordered a $40 Pro-Tec helmet, the non-certified ones that are just a shell with dual density foam pads on the inside.
I took the old skull crusher frame, modded it and bolted it to the helmet, cutting a slot for the front bolt to allow vertical adjustment. To that I added additional helmet pads that I had in my parts bin as well as Velcro strips where needed and a section of rail that I also cut a slot in the front bolt of it to allow vertical adjustment for differing lighting tasks that may arrive. A cheap counterbalance Mohawk thing from Amazon $11, and a ‘Heavy Duty’ cable lanyard as an extra margin of safety from Amazon, $6. Overall it’s a great fit and a MUCH better option than the skull crusher. Not bad for $57.   
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Posted: 10/20/2021 2:01:50 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My wife has a considerably smaller head (yet far more brain power) than me. My helmet rig wouldn’t work and the skull crusher was awful. So I decided to make a lightweight budget helmet rig for her. I ordered a $40 Pro-Tec helmet, the non-certified ones that are just a shell with dual density foam pads on the inside. I took the old skull crusher frame, modded it and bolted it to the helmet, cutting a slot for the front bolt to allow vertical adjustment. To that I added additional helmet pads that I had in my parts bin as well as Velcro strips where needed and a section of rail that I also cut a slot in the front bolt of it to allow vertical adjustment for differing lighting tasks that may arrive. A cheap counterbalance Mohawk thing from Amazon $11, and a ‘Heavy Duty’ cable lanyard as an extra margin of safety from Amazon, $6. Overall it’s a great fit and a MUCH better option than the skull crusher. Not bad for $57. https://i.imgur.com/qURBQGg.jpg https://i.imgur.com/naw8UFm.jpg https://i.imgur.com/PWNthgj.jpg Pretty damn nice engineering there! Great job! |
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Posted: 10/20/2021 8:43:35 PM EDT
[#40]
First full moon since I bought my ECHO PVS-14. Wow, it’s like daytime. I went for a bike ride on our local greenway. It was easy to navigate and such a neat experience to pedal a bike under nods. I looked for the local alligator, but he was a no show.
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Posted: 10/21/2021 10:07:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @DirtyHandsRob Any details on what was used to capture Vid on MH25? I've wished twice now I'd of had video of some night time antics... HMT and PVS14 has blown my mind, a double dose of super powers, and yet I'm still a poors in this game. For those debating color, I have a green 14 with a LLI white filter which takes the edge off the green and eases my eyestrain a bit going back and forth with the thermal. For $30 it's worth the lens protection alone. Take your time getting used to your stuff at first and take lots of breaks in the beginning. I'm still a newbie myself, but Shelby helped me out with that... Build up your stamina and neck muscles. I did 4 hours straight the other night, but about half of that was with my buddy using my thermal to spot. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If you don't have night vision, you're wrong. If you don't have thermal, you're missing everything. Helmet mounted thermal for the win. Now watch a Cola Warrior kick ass through an Iray MH25. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLCU0o7BUAs@DirtyHandsRob Any details on what was used to capture Vid on MH25? I've wished twice now I'd of had video of some night time antics... HMT and PVS14 has blown my mind, a double dose of super powers, and yet I'm still a poors in this game. For those debating color, I have a green 14 with a LLI white filter which takes the edge off the green and eases my eyestrain a bit going back and forth with the thermal. For $30 it's worth the lens protection alone. Take your time getting used to your stuff at first and take lots of breaks in the beginning. I'm still a newbie myself, but Shelby helped me out with that... Build up your stamina and neck muscles. I did 4 hours straight the other night, but about half of that was with my buddy using my thermal to spot. I have the MH25 hooked up to the UNV thermal DVR. It's not full HD, but looks pretty good. The MH25 and DVR come with all the cords needed. Fairly simple to operate. In this case I had the MH25 hooked to an external battery pac and the DVR. I filmed that while handheld. I can set it up for helmet mounted, but it's heavy and far from Tier 1, but hope to use it a lot for hunting and general jackassery at Cola Warrior events. I run a WP 14 and the MH25 on a Wilcox bridge. WP is definitely better than any green I've tried with the HMT set up. Also the thermal settings play a big role. @JestersHK |
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Posted: 10/21/2021 10:40:19 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have the MH25 hooked up to the UNV thermal DVR. It's not full HD, but looks pretty good. The MH25 and DVR come with all the cords needed. Fairly simple to operate. In this case I had the MH25 hooked to an external battery pac and the DVR. I filmed that while handheld. I can set it up for helmet mounted, but it's heavy and far from Tier 1, but hope to use it a lot for hunting and general jackassery at Cola Warrior events. I run a WP 14 and the MH25 on a Wilcox bridge. WP is definitely better than any green I've tried with the HMT set up. Also the thermal settings play a big role. @JestersHK Thanks for the reply, I'll check that out for sure. I'm running an external pack too off the back as a counter weight. Ran my cables under my ACH rails with a bit of dremel work. Need to find better water proofing, as cable and pack got wet on last outing, and not sure they are water rated... I pulled battery pack and switched to the onboard battery just to be safe. Still new to this thermal and playing with settings, but so far it's exceeded my expectations with image quality. |
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Posted: 10/21/2021 3:27:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks for the reply, I'll check that out for sure. I'm running an external pack too off the back as a counter weight. Ran my cables under my ACH rails with a bit of dremel work. Need to find better water proofing, as cable and pack got wet on last outing, and not sure they are water rated... I pulled battery pack and switched to the onboard battery just to be safe. Still new to this thermal and playing with settings, but so far it's exceeded my expectations with image quality. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I have the MH25 hooked up to the UNV thermal DVR. It's not full HD, but looks pretty good. The MH25 and DVR come with all the cords needed. Fairly simple to operate. In this case I had the MH25 hooked to an external battery pac and the DVR. I filmed that while handheld. I can set it up for helmet mounted, but it's heavy and far from Tier 1, but hope to use it a lot for hunting and general jackassery at Cola Warrior events. I run a WP 14 and the MH25 on a Wilcox bridge. WP is definitely better than any green I've tried with the HMT set up. Also the thermal settings play a big role. @JestersHK Thanks for the reply, I'll check that out for sure. I'm running an external pack too off the back as a counter weight. Ran my cables under my ACH rails with a bit of dremel work. Need to find better water proofing, as cable and pack got wet on last outing, and not sure they are water rated... I pulled battery pack and switched to the onboard battery just to be safe. Still new to this thermal and playing with settings, but so far it's exceeded my expectations with image quality. For messing around and if I feel like recording my hunting this is basically what I use. UNV DVR on top, battery bank and counterweight. I can adjust stuff fairly easily. Lots of possible snag locations and I shortened a cable or two. Helmet is like 7 lbs or something. Like I said not tier 1, but gud enuff.  
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Posted: 10/21/2021 9:30:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For messing around and if I feel like recording my hunting this is basically what I use. UNV DVR on top, battery bank and counterweight. I can adjust stuff fairly easily. Lots of possible snag locations and I shortened a cable or two. Helmet is like 7 lbs or something. Like I said not tier 1, but gud enuff. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/204013/IMG_20210814_214233664-2053447.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/204013/IMG_20210814_214252680-2053443.jpg Thank you for the pics. Looks like a sweet setup, and I'm gonna order one here in a minute. We're hunting in wide open pastures and fields, and our trails are all cut for sxs and very open so not super concerned about snags. We're low speed high drag here. Until the pigs and yotes start shooting back I'll worry less about being tier1. Necks gonna get stronk though
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Posted: 10/21/2021 10:22:44 PM EDT
[#45]
I have 2 pvs14s. Is it worth it to buy a bridge and use them as binocs?
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Posted: 10/21/2021 11:40:23 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have 2 pvs14s. Is it worth it to buy a bridge and use them as binocs? Panobridge is the way |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 8:28:28 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have 2 pvs14s. Is it worth it to buy a bridge and use them as binocs? If you already have two close match 14s, yes. A Panobridge is going to be your best bet IMO. Also they now come with two PVS14 arms as well as a Breach arm- in case you later decide you want to run a 14 on one side and a Breach on the other. Panobridge for (2) PVS14s or a PVS14 and a Breach |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 8:47:08 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What dot for passive aiming? piggybacked on LPVO Rmr? T1? Unity mount and a T2 |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 8:52:18 AM EDT
[#49]
Well I did it boys, I finally joined the NV crew, here's my humble setup. Photonis Echo WP from NGI, took about 3 weeks but totally worth it.
Only thing I'm currently waiting on is the retention strap from HHV, curious to see how well it works. Next step is to get some better ear pros, thinking Peltor Comtacs but curious to hear what the hive recommends.  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/22/2021 10:03:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What dot for passive aiming? piggybacked on LPVO Rmr? T1? RMR on top is my favorite. |
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