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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:18:06 PM EDT
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Isn't this normal for the military? Don't they have to take any and all shots and shit?
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:20:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Isn't this normal for the military? Don't they have to take any and all shots and shit? Not for vaccines under an emergency use authorization. |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:22:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not for vaccines under an emergency use authorization. I see. Thank you. |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:23:53 PM EDT
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FDA is set to approve the Pfizer Vax by Labor day
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:25:24 PM EDT
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So does refusal trigger an immediate Honorable Discharge like females get when pregnant?
Basically a "Get Out of Jail Free" card |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:25:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not for vaccines under an emergency use authorization. You think those anthrax and sarin shots were FDA approved, not a chance. |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:26:02 PM EDT
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I was in during the 80s, but I don't ever remember them asking me if I wanted the shot. It was just line up and get it.
When I got to replacement for the 82nd they gave me one that kept me in bed running a high fever all weekend long. |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:26:31 PM EDT
[#8]
Agent Orange
. . Gulf War Syndrome . . Burn Pits . . EUA Covid Vaccine |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:26:34 PM EDT
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 I imagine this will start some internal tensions |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:26:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not for vaccines under an emergency use authorization. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Isn't this normal for the military? Don't they have to take any and all shots and shit? Not for vaccines under an emergency use authorization. I’m still missing what has suddenly made this a matter of national security six months after it’s release. |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:26:52 PM EDT
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I hate what this country has become...it's disgusting...
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:27:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You think those anthrax and sarin shots were FDA approved, not a chance. https://www.cdc.gov/anthrax/resources/anthrax-vaccine-research.html |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:28:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was in during the 80s, but I don't ever remember them asking me if I wanted the shot. It was just line up and get it. When I got to replacement for the 82nd they gave me one that kept me in bed running a high fever all weekend long. After the anthrax shenanigans there was a federal law enacted that made vaccines under an EUA have to have a presidential memo signed in order to make them mandatory. |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:28:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Agent Orange . . Gulf War Syndrome . . Burn Pits . . EUA Covid Vaccine Seems to be an incorrect comparison given that civilians aren't exposed to any of those except one. |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:29:12 PM EDT
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I am Jack’s total lack of surprise.
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:29:19 PM EDT
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Anthrax was not mandatory until 2006 I believe , I was finally forced to take it in Iraq.
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:29:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You think those anthrax and sarin shots were FDA approved, not a chance. There is a FDA approved anthrax vaccine. Veterinarians have been getting anthrax shots for a long time. |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:32:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Seems to be an incorrect comparison given that civilians aren't exposed to any of those except one. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Agent Orange . . Gulf War Syndrome . . Burn Pits . . EUA Covid Vaccine Seems to be an incorrect comparison given that civilians aren't exposed to any of those except one. The comparison is for military personnel who will now be ordered to receive the covid shot. Generally, servicemembers get fucked over when it comes to shit they are exposed to. |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:33:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There is a FDA approved anthrax vaccine. Veterinarians have been getting anthrax shots for a long time. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You think those anthrax and sarin shots were FDA approved, not a chance. There is a FDA approved anthrax vaccine. Veterinarians have been getting anthrax shots for a long time. Using it as a germ warfare vaccine was only under an EUA as I recall. |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:33:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There is a FDA approved anthrax vaccine. Veterinarians have been getting anthrax shots for a long time. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You think those anthrax and sarin shots were FDA approved, not a chance. There is a FDA approved anthrax vaccine. Veterinarians have been getting anthrax shots for a long time. Veterinarians don’t know anything about virology, pandemics and/or vaccines... |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:33:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The comparison is for military personnel who will now be ordered to receive the covid shot. Generally, servicemembers get fucked over when it comes to shit they are exposed to. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Agent Orange . . Gulf War Syndrome . . Burn Pits . . EUA Covid Vaccine Seems to be an incorrect comparison given that civilians aren't exposed to any of those except one. The comparison is for military personnel who will now be ordered to receive the covid shot. Generally, servicemembers get fucked over when it comes to shit they are exposed to. At least this will be in your record. 
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:34:46 PM EDT
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Article is trash "what if" panic hype. Let me know when real things happen.
That being said, I may get a DD214 blanket made. 
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:34:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2Foriginals%2Fa4%2Fd4%2Fe8%2Fa4d4e8cedcc6668563ea7dc1df6d280a.jpg&f=1&nofb=1 I imagine this will start some internal tensions let the mfkn games begin. the marines are the masters of fuck fuck games. |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:36:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 2nd mar div is like 20% vaxd lol. let the mfkn games begin. the marines are the masters of fuck fuck games. as if millions of first sergeant voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:37:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: At least this will be in your record. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Agent Orange . . Gulf War Syndrome . . Burn Pits . . EUA Covid Vaccine Seems to be an incorrect comparison given that civilians aren't exposed to any of those except one. The comparison is for military personnel who will now be ordered to receive the covid shot. Generally, servicemembers get fucked over when it comes to shit they are exposed to. At least this will be in your record. And someone will pay the way if something happens down the road. |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:38:04 PM EDT
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Considering only 1 out of 123 people in my unit volunteered to get it, this is going to be interesting. There may be more by now since its been a few months but no more than 20% tops.
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:38:13 PM EDT
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They will mix up the doses with vax that turns you gay.
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:38:39 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:39:04 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You think those anthrax and sarin shots were FDA approved, not a chance. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Not for vaccines under an emergency use authorization. You think those anthrax and sarin shots were FDA approved, not a chance. https://basedunderground.com/2021/07/31/pilots-may-hold-key-to-mobilizing-against-military-covid-vaccine-mandate/ During this legal battle, which lasted years, service members who declined the anthrax vaccine were reduced in rank and pay, and disciplined under the Uniform Code of Military Justice which brought criminal charges resulting in jail and dishonorable discharges for declining a vaccine with serious long-term side effects. Others were forced into early retirement, and lost veteran benefits. As The Defender previously reported, in addition to the legal challenges, the GAO report found the military had a serious retention crisis due to the anthrax vaccine. The most experienced pilots left or planned to leave the military to avoid the anthrax vaccine — they were even willing to walk away from retirement benefits. According to the GAO report: “According to our survey, between September 1998 and September 2000, when AVIP was mandatory, about 16 percent of the guard and reserve pilots and aircrew members had transferred to another unit (primarily to non-flying positions), moved to inactive status, or left the military altogether. In addition, 18 percent of those still participating in units indicated their intention to transfer, move, or leave in the near future. About one-fifth of those who had already left did so knowingly before qualifying for military retirement.’” The pending loss of pilots was undeniable. According to the report, 69% of those pilots who changed their status ranked the anthrax vaccine as the main factor, and 72% of those pilots who planned to leave the military ranked the anthrax vaccine as the main factor. |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:39:56 PM EDT
[#30]
We had the same for Anthrax..
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:40:16 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not for vaccines under an emergency use authorization. If it looks like there will be a lot of refusals, they'll just have the FDA rubber stamp it and make it an approved vaccine. |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:40:53 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You think those anthrax and sarin shots were FDA approved, not a chance. Ya, was just about to bring up the shit pumped on the Gulf 1.0 vets that fucked up alot of people. |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:40:57 PM EDT
[#33]
Neat, what's the VA rating for Bells Palsy?
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:41:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I hate what this country has become...it's disgusting...  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:41:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If it looks like there will be a lot of refusals, they'll just have the FDA rubber stamp it and make it an approved vaccine. Unfortunately. |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:43:19 PM EDT
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Our Founding fathers would be shooting by now.
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:44:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I hate what this country has become...it's disgusting... you know what you need to do, bud. 
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:44:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: C'mon man! You're not impressed with this...? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/176088/2121_jpg-2040042.JPG Is that Austin? He can suck my dick. |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:44:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 2nd mar div is like 20% vaxd lol. let the mfkn games begin. the marines are the masters of fuck fuck games. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.pinimg.com%2Foriginals%2Fa4%2Fd4%2Fe8%2Fa4d4e8cedcc6668563ea7dc1df6d280a.jpg&f=1&nofb=1 I imagine this will start some internal tensions let the mfkn games begin. the marines are the masters of fuck fuck games. Yess.. Yes they are. |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:45:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:46:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:48:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: FDA is set to approve the Pfizer Vax by Labor day Follow the money |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:48:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is that Austin? He can suck my dick. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: C'mon man! You're not impressed with this...? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/176088/2121_jpg-2040042.JPG Is that Austin? He can suck my dick. It's either Austin or Idi Amin. I feel sorry for the guys in formation that have to disgrace their uniforms with those ridiculous plastic shields, then being forced to stand there being reviewed by some clown that looks like a third world dictator. What is that medal he's wearing? |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:48:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m still missing what has suddenly made this a matter of national security six months after it’s release. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Isn't this normal for the military? Don't they have to take any and all shots and shit? Not for vaccines under an emergency use authorization. I’m still missing what has suddenly made this a matter of national security six months after it’s release. HERE is your answer: Beyond readiness, a big part of the push for a mandate for the military centers on the belief that service members could set an example for their families and friends in states where vaccine hesitancy has been higher. “When people see that these guys got the vaccine and nothing happened to them, that could be decisive,” said Dr. Ezekiel J. Emanuel, a bioethicist at the University of Pennsylvania who advised Mr. Biden during his transition. “People admire our military,” he said. “They can serve as a positive example.” THAT is repugnant. |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:49:59 PM EDT
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Sooner or later one, or a combination of these inoculations is going to get tied to a presumptive declaration of disability. That's going to be one of the most expensive decisions the VA will ever be saddled with.
Talking out my hat, but I think I'm mostly over target. This is @spartacus2002 bread and butter. |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:50:06 PM EDT
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I'm only surprised it took this long. The measures in place to keep it out of ships have caused havoc with getting maintenance done to support on time deployments.
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:51:34 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:53:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m still missing what has suddenly made this a matter of national security six months after it’s release. Because they want to demonstrate the power they have. Young healthy service members, if they get the China Flu, usually are fine in just a few days. |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:54:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: HERE is your answer: Beyond readiness, a big part of the push for a mandate for the military centers on the belief that service members could set an example for their families and friends in states where vaccine hesitancy has been higher. “When people see that these guys got the vaccine and nothing happened to them, that could be decisive,” said Dr. Ezekiel J. Emanuel, a bioethicist at the University of Pennsylvania who advised Mr. Biden during his transition. “People admire our military,” he said. “They can serve as a positive example.” THAT is repugnant. A remarkable lack of ethics for a bioethicist. 
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:54:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Our Founding fathers would be shooting by now. lols in George Washington |
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