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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:55:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Veterinarians don’t know anything about virology, pandemics and/or vaccines... No horse paste for you.. |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:57:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A remarkable lack of ethics for a bioethicist.  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: HERE is your answer: Beyond readiness, a big part of the push for a mandate for the military centers on the belief that service members could set an example for their families and friends in states where vaccine hesitancy has been higher. “When people see that these guys got the vaccine and nothing happened to them, that could be decisive,” said Dr. Ezekiel J. Emanuel, a bioethicist at the University of Pennsylvania who advised Mr. Biden during his transition. “People admire our military,” he said. “They can serve as a positive example.” THAT is repugnant. A remarkable lack of ethics for a bioethicist. Rahm Emmanuel’s brother. You can’t make this shit up. |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:58:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They will mix up the doses with vax that turns you gay. The Marine Corp must have been taking the vaxx for like 200 years now. |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:58:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You think those anthrax and sarin shots were FDA approved, not a chance. Yes, the Anthrax vaccine is approved by the FDA. There is no sarin vaccine, only a short term antidote. It must be given within minutes of exposure. |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 7:58:34 PM EDT
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Glad I never signed the papers a few years ago.
 
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Posted: 8/4/2021 8:00:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anthrax was not mandatory until 2006 I believe , I was finally forced to take it in Iraq. Anthrax has been around before the 1900s. Not some experimental-bio weapon created in chynahhhh |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 8:00:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anthrax was not mandatory until 2006 I believe , I was finally forced to take it in Iraq. Try again. I was forced to in Korea in 98. |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 8:03:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Glad I never signed the papers a few years ago. I was gonna serve but………… |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 8:04:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: HERE is your answer: Beyond readiness, a big part of the push for a mandate for the military centers on the belief that service members could set an example for their families and friends in states where vaccine hesitancy has been higher. “When people see that these guys got the vaccine and nothing happened to them, that could be decisive,” said Dr. Ezekiel J. Emanuel, a bioethicist at the University of Pennsylvania who advised Mr. Biden during his transition. “People admire our military,” he said. “They can serve as a positive example.” THAT is repugnant. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Isn't this normal for the military? Don't they have to take any and all shots and shit? Not for vaccines under an emergency use authorization. I’m still missing what has suddenly made this a matter of national security six months after it’s release. HERE is your answer: Beyond readiness, a big part of the push for a mandate for the military centers on the belief that service members could set an example for their families and friends in states where vaccine hesitancy has been higher. “When people see that these guys got the vaccine and nothing happened to them, that could be decisive,” said Dr. Ezekiel J. Emanuel, a bioethicist at the University of Pennsylvania who advised Mr. Biden during his transition. “People admire our military,” he said. “They can serve as a positive example.” THAT is repugnant. Holy fuck |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 8:04:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Glad I never signed the papers a few years ago. think of the adventures you could have had whilst serving in the united states military. |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 8:06:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Holy fuck Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Isn't this normal for the military? Don't they have to take any and all shots and shit? Not for vaccines under an emergency use authorization. I’m still missing what has suddenly made this a matter of national security six months after it’s release. HERE is your answer: Beyond readiness, a big part of the push for a mandate for the military centers on the belief that service members could set an example for their families and friends in states where vaccine hesitancy has been higher. “When people see that these guys got the vaccine and nothing happened to them, that could be decisive,” said Dr. Ezekiel J. Emanuel, a bioethicist at the University of Pennsylvania who advised Mr. Biden during his transition. “People admire our military,” he said. “They can serve as a positive example.” THAT is repugnant. Holy fuck It’s amazing that they would say it. A Million strong, healthy kids, given an experimental vaccine as a means of coercing the civilian population. |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 8:07:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: think of the adventures you could have had whilst serving in the united states military. My friends tell me that all the time |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 8:07:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because they want to demonstrate the power they have. Young healthy service members, if they get the China Flu, usually are fine in just a few days.  |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 8:08:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I hate what this country has become...it's disgusting... Let's call it what it is: evil. |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 8:09:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: HERE is your answer: Beyond readiness, a big part of the push for a mandate for the military centers on the belief that service members could set an example for their families and friends in states where vaccine hesitancy has been higher. “When people see that these guys got the vaccine and nothing happened to them, that could be decisive,” said Dr. Ezekiel J. Emanuel, a bioethicist at the University of Pennsylvania who advised Mr. Biden during his transition. “People admire our military,” he said. “They can serve as a positive example.” THAT is repugnant. Ho Lee Fuk |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 8:10:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ho Lee Fuk Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: HERE is your answer: Beyond readiness, a big part of the push for a mandate for the military centers on the belief that service members could set an example for their families and friends in states where vaccine hesitancy has been higher. “When people see that these guys got the vaccine and nothing happened to them, that could be decisive,” said Dr. Ezekiel J. Emanuel, a bioethicist at the University of Pennsylvania who advised Mr. Biden during his transition. “People admire our military,” he said. “They can serve as a positive example.” THAT is repugnant. Ho Lee Fuk That’s not good for morale. |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 8:14:45 PM EDT
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I was told by a reputable source here the other day that this wouldn't happen. Odd how those things tend to work out.
I'm not saying this is right or good - I don't think that anything should be mandated on anyone regarding COVID - but no one should be shocked to see this happen. You can see it coming a mile away. You've got a large population of people who 1) already are made to get a battery of vaccinations when they enlist or deploy, 2) follow orders as a matter of not only daily routine but longstanding professional tradition (as well as the legal/ethical requirements to obey legit orders), and 3) are very often used as guinea pigs by politicians eager to use them for social policy experimentation. It's literally the easiest population in the country for this to be forced upon. If there's gonna be a vaccine mandate coming from down high, the military is gonna be the first to get it. America is essentially a fascist oligarchy now, and with the vaccines becoming a tribal/political issue, it's no surprise that the Leftists are going to use them as pawns in the cold civil war we're having. |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 8:15:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That’s not good for morale. Retention and recruitment as well. |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 8:16:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That’s not good for morale. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: HERE is your answer: Beyond readiness, a big part of the push for a mandate for the military centers on the belief that service members could set an example for their families and friends in states where vaccine hesitancy has been higher. “When people see that these guys got the vaccine and nothing happened to them, that could be decisive,” said Dr. Ezekiel J. Emanuel, a bioethicist at the University of Pennsylvania who advised Mr. Biden during his transition. “People admire our military,” he said. “They can serve as a positive example.” THAT is repugnant. Ho Lee Fuk That’s not good for morale. That's not good for anything! |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 8:17:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not for vaccines under an emergency use authorization. Might be true, but I'm sure you remember being lined up and injected with a bunch of different shots without having any idea what they were during in processing. No surprise at all, regardless of a liberal gov. .gov has f´d up plenty of times with various vaccines and shots, especially in the 70s and 80s if I remember right. |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 8:20:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: lols in George Washington lol 
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Posted: 8/4/2021 8:22:18 PM EDT
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Edited ~ medicmandan
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Posted: 8/4/2021 8:23:04 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I was told by a reputable source here the other day that this wouldn't happen. Odd how those things tend to work out. . It WILL still be slow-rolled. You can read it in the language of the release. What’s your over/under for when the force-vaccinate the first troop? Name the date |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 8:23:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Retention and recruitment as well. They want to get rid of you guys anyway. I believe that this is actually part of their effort to purge the military and civilian federal workforce of conservatives. Coming at them with legally dubious intrusions into their political beliefs would probably be more difficult for them than doing a vaccine mandate. Rather than fire you or section you out for political BS, they can get you to simply quit or refuse to re-enlist on your own because you don't want the jab. They want to replace you guys with BLM types anyway. This will help with that. |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 8:23:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: HERE is your answer: Beyond readiness, a big part of the push for a mandate for the military centers on the belief that service members could set an example for their families and friends in states where vaccine hesitancy has been higher. “When people see that these guys got the vaccine and nothing happened to them, that could be decisive,” said Dr. Ezekiel J. Emanuel, a bioethicist at the University of Pennsylvania who advised Mr. Biden during his transition. “People admire our military,” he said. “They can serve as a positive example.” THAT is repugnant. I let them shoot that burning-ass anthrax into me six times, and I don't remember a single civilian following my good example. What was the going military refusal rate at last count? Be curious to see the blowback from this...the CIC isn't highly regarded, based on the feedback I get from people still serving. |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 8:26:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They want to get rid of you guys anyway. They want to replace you guys with BLM types anyway. This will help with that. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Retention and recruitment as well. They want to get rid of you guys anyway. They want to replace you guys with BLM types anyway. This will help with that. No they don’t. BLM types are ineligible and no one wants them to serve. The military still wants to be able to break stuff. |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 8:27:05 PM EDT
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I had no choice but to get the Anthrax vaccine on the desert floor. I was not happy. No testing on me this time.
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Posted: 8/4/2021 8:27:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: that’s not what you were told. It will still be slow-rolled. You can read it in the language of the release. What’s your over/under for when the force-vaccinate the first troop? Name the date I'm not gonna name a date. Neither will you. We'd both be wrong in our guess. But it'll happen, and if you were honest, then you'd admit that. I'd bet sooner rather than later, though. The story now is they're going to seek a presidential waiver for it, which tells me they're looking to start the process before FDA approval comes through. I'm not sure how many more reports you need on this to understand that it's actually happening. Just in the past 24 hours FOX, CNN, NYT, and Reuters all have reports on it, so it's in the news cycle. It's in the news cycle for a reason. Disbelieve it if you want, but I'd recommend making plans for it if I were you. I understand that you're always right about everything, but just this once you might want to think about it since it will directly affect you. |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 8:27:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Edited ~ medicmandan Greatest first post in arfcom history. Bravo sir |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 8:29:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Rahm Emmanuel’s brother. You can’t make this shit up. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: HERE is your answer: Beyond readiness, a big part of the push for a mandate for the military centers on the belief that service members could set an example for their families and friends in states where vaccine hesitancy has been higher. “When people see that these guys got the vaccine and nothing happened to them, that could be decisive,” said Dr. Ezekiel J. Emanuel, a bioethicist at the University of Pennsylvania who advised Mr. Biden during his transition. “People admire our military,” he said. “They can serve as a positive example.” THAT is repugnant. A remarkable lack of ethics for a bioethicist. Rahm Emmanuel’s brother. You can’t make this shit up. JFC, the shit just kinda gathers in one fucking pile in DC.... |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 8:29:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Edited ~ medicmandan Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The Marine Corp must have been taking the vaxx for like 200 years now. Edited ~ medicmandan Did you create an account just to call me names? I'm impressed. Were you an officer? |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 8:29:20 PM EDT
[#32]
I had no choice but to get the Anthrax vaccine on the desert floor. I was not happy. No testing on me this time.
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Posted: 8/4/2021 8:29:41 PM EDT
[#33]
That sucks.
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Posted: 8/4/2021 8:30:02 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No they don’t. BLM types are ineligible and no one wants them to serve. The military still wants to be able to break stuff. Yes, you're right. Of course. The military isn't looking to purge itself of conservatives. They'd never do such a thing. |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 8:30:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s amazing that they would say it. A Million strong, healthy kids, given an experimental vaccine as a means of coercing the civilian population. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Isn't this normal for the military? Don't they have to take any and all shots and shit? Not for vaccines under an emergency use authorization. I’m still missing what has suddenly made this a matter of national security six months after it’s release. HERE is your answer: Beyond readiness, a big part of the push for a mandate for the military centers on the belief that service members could set an example for their families and friends in states where vaccine hesitancy has been higher. “When people see that these guys got the vaccine and nothing happened to them, that could be decisive,” said Dr. Ezekiel J. Emanuel, a bioethicist at the University of Pennsylvania who advised Mr. Biden during his transition. “People admire our military,” he said. “They can serve as a positive example.” THAT is repugnant. Holy fuck It’s amazing that they would say it. A Million strong, healthy kids, given an experimental vaccine as a means of coercing the civilian population. I don't even know what to say. We are lost. |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 8:31:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Edited ~ medicmandan 
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Posted: 8/4/2021 8:33:01 PM EDT
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Edited ~ medicmandan
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Posted: 8/4/2021 8:33:26 PM EDT
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How many infections, hospitalizations and deaths have occurred in active duty servicemembers?
Given the demographics, I would expect a lot of the first and very little of the second and third. |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 8:35:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How many infections, hospitalizations and deaths have occurred in active duty servicemembers? Given the demographics, I would expect a lot of the first and very little of the second and third. Almost none. Reality is irrelevant here. |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 8:36:55 PM EDT
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I wasn't aware the rabies shots we got at FT Campbell in 08 were experimental until I read it here a few months back.
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Posted: 8/4/2021 8:38:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: lol Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: lols in George Washington lol What, they didn’t teach history at your clown college? |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 8:38:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm not gonna name a date. Neither will you. We'd both be wrong in our guess. But it'll happen, and if you were honest, then you'd admit that. I'd bet sooner rather than later, though. The story now is they're going to seek a presidential waiver for it, which tells me they're looking to start the process before FDA approval comes through. I'm not sure how many more reports you need on this to understand that it's actually happening. Just in the past 24 hours FOX, CNN, NYT, and Reuters all have reports on it, so it's in the news cycle. It's in the news cycle for a reason. Disbelieve it if you want, but I'd recommend making plans for it if I were you. I understand that you're always right about everything, but just this once you might want to think about it since it will directly affect you. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: that’s not what you were told. It will still be slow-rolled. You can read it in the language of the release. What’s your over/under for when the force-vaccinate the first troop? Name the date I'm not gonna name a date. Neither will you. We'd both be wrong in our guess. But it'll happen, and if you were honest, then you'd admit that. I'd bet sooner rather than later, though. The story now is they're going to seek a presidential waiver for it, which tells me they're looking to start the process before FDA approval comes through. I'm not sure how many more reports you need on this to understand that it's actually happening. Just in the past 24 hours FOX, CNN, NYT, and Reuters all have reports on it, so it's in the news cycle. It's in the news cycle for a reason. Disbelieve it if you want, but I'd recommend making plans for it if I were you. I understand that you're always right about everything, but just this once you might want to think about it since it will directly affect you. I told you. If ordered, I will be vaccinated on my own before they force it. But it will be slow-rolled. |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 8:40:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, you're right. Of course. The military isn't looking to purge itself of conservatives. They'd never do such a thing. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: No they don’t. BLM types are ineligible and no one wants them to serve. The military still wants to be able to break stuff. Yes, you're right. Of course. The military isn't looking to purge itself of conservatives. They'd never do such a thing. You read too many silly things on the Internet. The military is filled with conservatives. |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 8:40:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I told you. If ordered, I will be vaccinated on my own before they force it. But it will be slow-rolled. YOU haven't yet? Not an insult just know the environment you're in... |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 8:40:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I see. Thank you. Also most vaccines haven't become massive political issues. And the one's which have..... well the military doesn't employ teen girls. |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 8:40:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ho Lee Fuk Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: HERE is your answer: Beyond readiness, a big part of the push for a mandate for the military centers on the belief that service members could set an example for their families and friends in states where vaccine hesitancy has been higher. "When people see that these guys got the vaccine and nothing happened to them, that could be decisive," said Dr. Ezekiel J. Emanuel, a bioethicist at the University of Pennsylvania who advised Mr. Biden during his transition. "People admire our military," he said. "They can serve as a positive example." THAT is repugnant. Ho Lee Fuk |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 8:43:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I told you. If ordered, I will be vaccinated on my own before they force it. But it will be slow-rolled. Yep, already a lot of guys are saying fuck that shit. Even the brass are kinda stutter-stepping their way to setting up the process. I'm thinking everyone will bitch and moan but will eventually take the needle. I'm also sure some will stand fast and take the NJP or admin sep. |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 8:44:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That’s not good for morale. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: HERE is your answer: Beyond readiness, a big part of the push for a mandate for the military centers on the belief that service members could set an example for their families and friends in states where vaccine hesitancy has been higher. “When people see that these guys got the vaccine and nothing happened to them, that could be decisive,” said Dr. Ezekiel J. Emanuel, a bioethicist at the University of Pennsylvania who advised Mr. Biden during his transition. “People admire our military,” he said. “They can serve as a positive example.” THAT is repugnant. Ho Lee Fuk That’s not good for morale. Like anyone in power gives a shit about the morale of cannon fodder. |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 8:44:43 PM EDT
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Isn't that illegal with EUA meds?
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Posted: 8/4/2021 8:45:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep, already a lot of guys are saying fuck that shit. Even the brass are kinda stutter-stepping their way to setting up the process. I'm thinking everyone will bitch and moan but will eventually take the needle. I'm also sure some will stand fast and take the NJP or admin sep. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I told you. If ordered, I will be vaccinated on my own before they force it. But it will be slow-rolled. Yep, already a lot of guys are saying fuck that shit. Even the brass are kinda stutter-stepping their way to setting up the process. I'm thinking everyone will bitch and moan but will eventually take the needle. I'm also sure some will stand fast and take the NJP or admin sep. Right now they are tasked with coming up with “recommendations” as to “how” they could do it. And yes, you can see the stutter stepping began last week. |
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